Oc-20 gnome smooth bore udar revolver in 12.5x35

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DJTilapia@reddit

12.5×35 or 12.5×40? Wikipedia gives the latter.

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Remarkable_Main3912@reddit (OP)

Both cylinders can be swapped out

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Looks like a Ruger action, LCR most similarly but would need more pictures. That’s interesting to me because the last modern Russian revolver I saw had a flat spring instead of a coil. That almost has to be a coil spring for the trigger pack to drop out like that.

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Adventurous-Tie-1624@reddit

Would that thing technically be a NFA DD in the U.S.?

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stranger-named-clyde@reddit

It shouldnt. 12.5mm is just shy of the .5" caliber requirement being 12.7mm. Theres other larger diameter firearms being sold with no NFA designation. However the "Street sweeper" was designated a DD despite shotguns in general being omitted from being DD due to most being over the bore requirement. So who knows what kind of tomfoolery congress would do if this was allowed to be imported

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LopsidedResearch8400@reddit

Would likely be a "smooth bore pistol" rather than a DD if its just under .50 bore. Still NFA, just a different folder.

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit

I always thought that that was actually the weirdest NFA designation (although aow is also pretty odd and ill defined )

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LopsidedResearch8400@reddit

The best reason I can accept is that once you realize that the NFA was supposed to include handguns, all these other things start to "click" as ways to keep someone from setting something up that is close to one.

Once they removed handguns from the proposal, they didn't go back and alter anything else leaving us with SBS, SBR, AOW, And smooth bore pistols. (SBS/SBR so you couldn't just take your rifle or shotgun and cut it down to a small size, AOW and Smooth bore pistols as an absolutely terribly written "catch all" for anything else.)

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit

Yeah its pretty strange that they simply went ahead with the bill rather than rewriting it although i suppose optics are everything especially when you look at where literacy rates were at the time (and where they are rapidly heading i weep for the future im talking about weeks from now )

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LopsidedResearch8400@reddit

It is truly frustrating. Oh well. Perhaps one day NFA stuff will get "fixed" since most of it is basically just stupid gymnastics.

People care more now then they did when all of that was written aswell.

I still remember how little many cared for things like AR-15's and AK's pre 94, but then the ban happened.... and suddenly people wanted them! Now look at how common SBR's are becoming.

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit

Its pretty wild i have been heavily involved in the hobby since just before the assault weapons ban and remember buying Aks and mini14s because they were several times less expensive than the 4 available Ar pattern rifles on the commercial market and sks’s were $75 and were plucked out of a barrel. getting together with some friends in Pennsylvania and purchasing a transferable machine gun an American 180 for they crazy price of $2000 and stuff like stens could be had for $500 or so and even things like M2 carbines being about what we would pay now for a civilian reproduction . The milsurp market was so over supplied that to see the prices now i want to cry the market for dozens of hot wars and 1 cold being wiped out in essentially 5 years time the confluence of the internet,saving private Ryan and Boomer greed being the perfect storm that nothing could stand up against makes me sad

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LopsidedResearch8400@reddit

Military surplus was awesome, and I only wish I had more time and money to have taken advantage of it all.

But, who knows. Maybe we will see something else. It all seems to go in cycles.

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit

The golden age is behind us sadly because of exposure even if Russia falls and they turn up warehouse after warehouse of up till now untouched surplus it will simply start at the current price and go up as folks will inevitably simply buy as much as possible as soon as it hits the market i think people fail to realize just how much the gun market as a whole has grown ironically as a result of the assault weapons ban of 94

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LopsidedResearch8400@reddit

I keep hoping for stuff from places we dont often see perhaps coming to market. I agree, the days of golden Russsian/soviet surplus is gone, but we do have other potential troves.... just gotta get them here.

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit

I like your moxie kid . Early in my collecting career tibet sold off its entire inventory of surplus stuff that ran from matchlocks to late cold war era stuff some remarkable stuff came out of there. And went for reasonable prices. Lets then look at the recent very similar Ethiopian armory haul that was many times the quantity of the Tibetan haul and the net result of this was still inflated prices for what would have been considered not even salable by 90s standards it wouldn’t have been worth doin the paper work let alone ship from Ethiopia and while some interesting stuff has come from this in terms of shootable history almost nothing part of the value back then was couched in plentiful stockpiles of ammunition that made shooting these things less expensive than any modern centerfire cartridge having burned up all the .303 and any of the dozen 6.5 military cartridges or GI.45 or 30 carbine or .30-06 while many of these are still currently still produced they are always expensive and many of them are simply not loaded still commercially and having to handload is a higher level of commitment so even when cheap shootable examples (like many of the Ethiopian carcanos) appear that makes them inherently less desirable

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LopsidedResearch8400@reddit

Some neat but rough stuff came in from Ethiopia, saw a couple MAS 49/56's come through my work. Some were more functional than others of course.

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit

Oh man those are a prime example i bought a 49/56 out of the shotgun news for $300 with all accessories including original optic and 100 rounds of french 7.5 as well as one i paid $120 for that had been “converted” more or less to 7.62X51 which perhaps unsurprisingly for a direct impingement rifle wasn’t entirely reliable although my example ran much better than others i saw especially when i worked out a load that more closely mirrored the french 7.5 but even sending the least capable military weapons to the states is seen through a politically unpopular lens and so developing nations are all we have left and as a result of their developing nature was rarely new when they received it and then it was used until it is barely a nub and while the history is no less cool my want to own it is a lot lower

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Remarkable_Main3912@reddit (OP)

For police in close quarters situations

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