Having unlimited music is overrated anyways. How many songs do most people listen to anyways? At least having it in a focused collection forced you to pick out things you actually wanted to hear and albums from artist where you actually wanted to listen to the whole thing. Now we all have choice paralysis from all the unlimited choices so we fall back on the same 20ish songs recommended on the front page every time
Yep. It’s also harder to bond with people over good new music now because everyone’s taste is algorithmically targeted. The radio always kinda gatekept and trended toward record company artists but at least some radio artists still had soul for a while. Then you could just go to college radio, blogs, and record stores to find a semi-cohesive culture of independent music. Now, unless you accept the handful of songs trending with short form videos or the absolute garbage on the radio the chances of you listening to the same music as some random person you meet is slim
I've been watching a travel blogger traversing China and India on and off for about two years and I was somewhat surprised how good translation on the spot can be.
It's somewhat off-road content which I enjoy and it was heartwarming to see people connect whereas they wouldn't be able able to understand a word from each other otherwise.
Smartphones feel like such a stolen technology. They could have been truly an amazing thing for everyone's benefit. A true computer in your pocket that actually helps you. But no, there was too much money to be made instead.
Me when i can't actually come up with a valid argument besides "but you're doing it too"
I agree that phones fucked up many aspects of our lives but pointing out that someone who says that is using a phone themselves IS NOT a good argument to make lmao.
The problem with smartphones is the consistency of content being avaliable. (Social media and internet)
I can still seem busy or ignore people somewhat while texting my BF, I can still get directions, I can still listen to music. Fuck I would mind simple web pages. You can even have basic games. Simple email. Ect.
Sometimes even as a very tech savvy person...this device is to much in design and accessibility stand point. Bulky for my tiny woman pockets. It seriously just sucks you in. I cannot even explain it.
the issue isn't that smart phones are wireless and THAT'S IT, the problem is that they're wireless AND full computers. full computers existed before that, wireless phones existed before that, combining the two is what fucked us. you're missing his half of the point.
I don't have a problem with wired computers and wired phones. I have a problem with wireless computers and wireless phones.
And wireless drones. And wireless billboards. And wireless fucking dishwashers.
If wireless didn't exist, and we had to choose where we must physically be to connect to the internet, that exercise of choice would lead to a more healthy society. Example: you can choose to stay at home, connected to the internet. Or you can choose to leave your home and meet others who made the same choice.
You'd go to a restaurant and get handed a menu, rather than told to scan the QR code.
There'd be fewer license plate cameras, powered by wireless energy (solar) and communicating wireless with their HQ over cellular.
We would all be more free to live. And we'd still get to go home and argue like we are now. But only from our desks, not while taking a shit.
It makes being a genius a ubiquitous delusion. I would say ‘ubiquitous trait’ if people didn’t stand in that falsehood with such an unearned sense of authority.
internet was ruined by giving access to more people
you just suck at dating
it is fair, but its far easier to plan and coordinate stuff, especially with group chats and sending live location etc.
attention span I agree
ruined SLR photography, phones can do far more now, but why should photographers prop up an industry that barely changes? innovation has been good here, it pushed for modern mirrorless slrs. As for edited social media pics, I agree
Not much experience with customer service
agreed
I feel it made UI and software more accessible to older folks. I’m dumb as fuck and I hope that when I’m 60 and older, newer tech does get dumbed down for noobs like me.
ruined tourism. bruh
ruined entertainment; I think the music industry, film industry were already in their decline. smartphones just made the decline more visible. Gaming was new, so it took longer to hit its decline.
I didn’t suck at dating before Tinder and shit, but I can’t blame iPhone for it, I kept not sucking for quite a while before Tinder became a thing. Meanwhile dating sites existed like always and were more or less the same experience.
Regarding the photography, well. Here I can agree I suck. But it’s a bit frustrating: I used to take fairly decent pictures on an SLR camera, I studied photography a bit, did a few photosets for my friends yada yada. I wanted to become a semi-professional photographer. But then the phones learned to improve pictures and every bum can take a better photo with zero knowledge by just opening an app and tapping the shutter button. I’m discouraged as hell. I have two mirrorless cameras that take amazing pictures but in the selfie era there’s not even a market for those. Take a fugly vertical picture, let the algorithms make it look tasty, post to Instagram. Why bother?
How is SLR/mirrorless photography ruined? Phones are still miles away from the image quality of SLRs, especially in the more technical fields of photography.
They’re not ruined, its just that phones are able to do so much more than SLRs and mirrorless today. Especially a lot of phones from China, like the Xiaomi 17 Ultra. For a phone it is remarkably good.
there’s a second aspect, that most casual photographers and hobbyists end up with a portfolio for their friends and family. In this regard, the audience isn’t one that can fully understand and appreciate what SLRs do. For that audience, phones are phenomenal today. So it’s an audience shift, as well as innovation in phones.
No doubt, pro cameras are still “it” for pro photos. And for those who can make a living from it. But the average consumer buying a point n shoot, or an SLR and a few lenses for home videos, family pics and portraits; that entire market is now on phones.
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/NINOY/nikon/revenue Nikon’s revenue has halved since 2011. For Sony and Canon it’s a little difficult as cameras aren’t their only products. Even Olympus suffered and isn’t around. Tamron is still around I think, and Fujifilm is strong.
If course almost nobody buys a camera anymore for family snapshots but I don’t quite understand how a smartphone can do more than a SLR in the right hands.
Using an SLR is of course more difficult, expensive and a much slower process though so it’s useful for people who just want some images taken to remember the occasion or whatever. Therefore it’s no big surprise that sales have gone down massively, SLRs are for pros and photography enthusiasts these days.
modern maps services are amazing, not only is it functionally an atlas of the entire world down to the street level, but with GPS it can pinpoint your exact location reasonably well, offer directions from point A to point B that can update as traffic conditions change, integrates local transit schedules into it, and is connected to a database of pretty much every business with reviews of said businesses telling you what other people think of said business.
It is amazing how much better these things are than using paper road maps or printing directions off of Mapquest
its a good tool for
-light
-camera and display to show/remember Things
-find out nearly everything
though if i had the power to destroy smartphones/ social media, i would do it without hesitation, it ruined many years of social life experience, especially for myself.
It’s powerful to have a phone in your pocket but I’ll add that cellphones led to spam calls and texts to the point that it’s a bad form of communication.
I don’t answer my phone and I miss lots of texts because I’m always getting bullshit spam or political texts from the GOPedos. Email? I have 60K unread. I don’t dare go in there unless I need to find something.
translation: many more people are now able to use it, however they like and can. Gatekeeping much?
>ruined dating
maybe it was not the smartphones, but the dating apps? I remember in start of 2000s, how much those older sites wanted to squeeze money outta you for "premium". Sure, there were way less bots, and filters, but that is just progress for you
>socializing
Idk man, i am 43 now, nothing was ruined, i've socialized as normal?
>attention span
It was ruined already
>photography
yeah, sure. Gatekeeping again
>customer service
Idk man, it was not that bad until bots, bots ruined it
>electronics
again, not a smartphone thing. It's regulations thing. We should not allow the producers of those electronics to do that without some rules (like mandatory ability to not use it in case you don't want to)
> UI design and software
what he is talking about, i am a software dev for 20 years now, stuff got way better (*on my side at least)
>ruined tourism
huh?
>ruined entertainment
again, huh? a lot of GOATs over last 15-20 years
Anything good about smartphones? I can watch youtube while working haha, and goon in the bathroom. A huge improvement
Bernard_PT@reddit
I cleaned my ass while reading this post
PorQuePanckes@reddit
Directions to places, that’s about all I got
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit
also infinite music.
western-information@reddit
What is an mp3 player and limewire
PartyClock@reddit
Having unlimited music is overrated anyways. How many songs do most people listen to anyways? At least having it in a focused collection forced you to pick out things you actually wanted to hear and albums from artist where you actually wanted to listen to the whole thing. Now we all have choice paralysis from all the unlimited choices so we fall back on the same 20ish songs recommended on the front page every time
western-information@reddit
Yep. It’s also harder to bond with people over good new music now because everyone’s taste is algorithmically targeted. The radio always kinda gatekept and trended toward record company artists but at least some radio artists still had soul for a while. Then you could just go to college radio, blogs, and record stores to find a semi-cohesive culture of independent music. Now, unless you accept the handful of songs trending with short form videos or the absolute garbage on the radio the chances of you listening to the same music as some random person you meet is slim
SomeLeftGuy633@reddit
I've been watching a travel blogger traversing China and India on and off for about two years and I was somewhat surprised how good translation on the spot can be.
It's somewhat off-road content which I enjoy and it was heartwarming to see people connect whereas they wouldn't be able able to understand a word from each other otherwise.
Salt-Powered@reddit
Smartphones feel like such a stolen technology. They could have been truly an amazing thing for everyone's benefit. A true computer in your pocket that actually helps you. But no, there was too much money to be made instead.
dance_rattle_shake@reddit
GPS. It's the reason I got one, years after everyone else in my life had one. Holy shit it changed my life overnight.
WeasleFire@reddit
(Posted from my iPhone)
Hawt_Dawg_II@reddit
Berkuts_Lance_Plus@reddit
Everyone who posts this comic should deepthroat a loaded gun for the good of humankind.
G14Y401L0L1F1D0MTR4P@reddit
What no argument does to a mf
ur_moms_boy-toy@reddit
The comic itself also contains no argument, if I remember correctly.
CerifiedHuman0001@reddit
It does, and the point is pretty blatant
ur_moms_boy-toy@reddit
Here it is. You tell me if you see anything other than a straw man in this.
ParticularConcept548@reddit
Berkuts_Lance_Plus@reddit
Why is this a gif?
Hawt_Dawg_II@reddit
Me when i can't actually come up with a valid argument besides "but you're doing it too"
I agree that phones fucked up many aspects of our lives but pointing out that someone who says that is using a phone themselves IS NOT a good argument to make lmao.
Dirty_Dan117@reddit
nah ur just silly
Absolutemehguy@reddit
Ryntex@reddit
Lmao gold
Nivites@reddit
Porn
6crem@reddit
You act like porn magazines and tapes did exist for that.
Tenko-of-Mori@reddit
porn is better in 4k PC monitor, pleb
EvoLutionCarl@reddit
I can't take my 4k PC monitor to the Zoo
Varith83@reddit
Porn in my bed
shakegraphics@reddit
You’re way too cooked if you need 4k to enjoy porn lmao
overlord_of_cringe@reddit
In that case, a phone is useful for people like me, whose parents never bought a key for their door.
Arugula_Euphoric@reddit
How is that good
TestyBoy13@reddit
I touch my weiner and pee something white and it feels really good
yeezusKeroro@reddit
Can browse one handed
SuperSocialMan@reddit
real.
I_Don-t_Care@reddit
Real what you fucking monosyllabic ape?
OneRFeris@reddit
Everyone laughs at me when I condemn all wireless technology, but this guy gets it. We're bros now.
Tokipudi@reddit
All the bad things about smart phones are unrelated to the fact that it is wireless.
OneRFeris@reddit
No, I disagree there.
If smart phones weren't wireless, they wouldn't be at the dinner table, etc.
I love my desktop computer, but it would be very unhealthy if I could take it everywhere with me.
Tokipudi@reddit
How old were you when old flip phones were the norm and smartphone did not exist?
Because nearly none of the problems in OP's posts existed then.
Newclearfallout@reddit
I would adore a basic flip phone.
The problem with smartphones is the consistency of content being avaliable. (Social media and internet)
I can still seem busy or ignore people somewhat while texting my BF, I can still get directions, I can still listen to music. Fuck I would mind simple web pages. You can even have basic games. Simple email. Ect.
Sometimes even as a very tech savvy person...this device is to much in design and accessibility stand point. Bulky for my tiny woman pockets. It seriously just sucks you in. I cannot even explain it.
SoupaMayo@reddit
IMHO it's more a "Blame the people who use it and not the tool" situation
Antique_Orange_4547@reddit
Then get one
cheater00@reddit
the issue isn't that smart phones are wireless and THAT'S IT, the problem is that they're wireless AND full computers. full computers existed before that, wireless phones existed before that, combining the two is what fucked us. you're missing his half of the point.
OneRFeris@reddit
I don't have a problem with wired computers and wired phones. I have a problem with wireless computers and wireless phones.
And wireless drones. And wireless billboards. And wireless fucking dishwashers.
If wireless didn't exist, and we had to choose where we must physically be to connect to the internet, that exercise of choice would lead to a more healthy society. Example: you can choose to stay at home, connected to the internet. Or you can choose to leave your home and meet others who made the same choice.
You'd go to a restaurant and get handed a menu, rather than told to scan the QR code.
There'd be fewer license plate cameras, powered by wireless energy (solar) and communicating wireless with their HQ over cellular.
We would all be more free to live. And we'd still get to go home and argue like we are now. But only from our desks, not while taking a shit.
cheater00@reddit
I'm right there with you
MrBVS@reddit
Ah yes, QR code menus and license plate cameras. Those ruined the world.
616659@reddit
Ok lemme whip out my 10m extension cord then lol
L003Tr@reddit
Don't fault the rest of us necause you've got a shitty family bro
OneRFeris@reddit
My family was killed by someone texting and driving, bro.
Just kidding... but could you imagine?
die9991@reddit
See: dumbphones.
Prestigious-Fig1172@reddit
Gay: you two together (btw you'ren't wrong)
yeetzapizza123@reddit
I can read when I shit easier
convenientgods@reddit
BobDylansBasterdSon@reddit
Real ones use a laptop
idontknowjuspickone@reddit
I’m a desk top guy personally
CrazyAnchovy@reddit
You sit backwards on the toilet don't you?
Monitor on the tank, tower on the sink....
HamBlamBlam@reddit
Real ones install toilets in their gaming chairs.
BobDylansBasterdSon@reddit
Difficult with plumbing. Just move your pc to the restroom.
ChriSaito@reddit
I don’t read shit, I shit with my Steam Deck
Magnus_Helgisson@reddit
I could read on a Nokia 6681 a while before iPhone.
Idaret@reddit
Book was always an option
pibenis@reddit
You will read the labels on your shampoo bottle and be happy
TheRealGooner24@reddit
I prefer my Kindle for that.
artmoloch777@reddit
It makes being a genius a ubiquitous delusion. I would say ‘ubiquitous trait’ if people didn’t stand in that falsehood with such an unearned sense of authority.
AshamedGoat2@reddit
Free porn
Venomswindturd@reddit
Le phone bad!!!
Confident-Evening-49@reddit
They accelerate humanity's downfall.
misterlabowski@reddit
*Humans accelerate humanity’s downfall
JessHorserage@reddit
Ruined information monopolies. For better and worse.
semaj420@reddit
correct. fuck smartphones
Noiu_xd@reddit
How did smarphones ruin internet? I think that big corporations, ads and AI had worse impact, but maybe I'm wrong
TheChannelMiner@reddit
As long as it plays music and porn, that shit is NASA to me.
Malofa@reddit
Ol' Ted K. tried to warn us, but we weren't ready to listen.
saketho@reddit
Magnus_Helgisson@reddit
I didn’t suck at dating before Tinder and shit, but I can’t blame iPhone for it, I kept not sucking for quite a while before Tinder became a thing. Meanwhile dating sites existed like always and were more or less the same experience.
Regarding the photography, well. Here I can agree I suck. But it’s a bit frustrating: I used to take fairly decent pictures on an SLR camera, I studied photography a bit, did a few photosets for my friends yada yada. I wanted to become a semi-professional photographer. But then the phones learned to improve pictures and every bum can take a better photo with zero knowledge by just opening an app and tapping the shutter button. I’m discouraged as hell. I have two mirrorless cameras that take amazing pictures but in the selfie era there’s not even a market for those. Take a fugly vertical picture, let the algorithms make it look tasty, post to Instagram. Why bother?
Lol3droflxp@reddit
How is SLR/mirrorless photography ruined? Phones are still miles away from the image quality of SLRs, especially in the more technical fields of photography.
saketho@reddit
They’re not ruined, its just that phones are able to do so much more than SLRs and mirrorless today. Especially a lot of phones from China, like the Xiaomi 17 Ultra. For a phone it is remarkably good.
there’s a second aspect, that most casual photographers and hobbyists end up with a portfolio for their friends and family. In this regard, the audience isn’t one that can fully understand and appreciate what SLRs do. For that audience, phones are phenomenal today. So it’s an audience shift, as well as innovation in phones.
No doubt, pro cameras are still “it” for pro photos. And for those who can make a living from it. But the average consumer buying a point n shoot, or an SLR and a few lenses for home videos, family pics and portraits; that entire market is now on phones.
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/NINOY/nikon/revenue Nikon’s revenue has halved since 2011. For Sony and Canon it’s a little difficult as cameras aren’t their only products. Even Olympus suffered and isn’t around. Tamron is still around I think, and Fujifilm is strong.
Lol3droflxp@reddit
If course almost nobody buys a camera anymore for family snapshots but I don’t quite understand how a smartphone can do more than a SLR in the right hands.
Using an SLR is of course more difficult, expensive and a much slower process though so it’s useful for people who just want some images taken to remember the occasion or whatever. Therefore it’s no big surprise that sales have gone down massively, SLRs are for pros and photography enthusiasts these days.
jericho-dingle@reddit
The best thing about smart phones is Google maps. By a wide wide margin.
Magnus_Helgisson@reddit
They were available on Symbian smartphones too, much less convenient, of course.
galacticdude7@reddit
modern maps services are amazing, not only is it functionally an atlas of the entire world down to the street level, but with GPS it can pinpoint your exact location reasonably well, offer directions from point A to point B that can update as traffic conditions change, integrates local transit schedules into it, and is connected to a database of pretty much every business with reviews of said businesses telling you what other people think of said business.
It is amazing how much better these things are than using paper road maps or printing directions off of Mapquest
ZenPyx@reddit
1) Google maps
2) Online, app based banking
3) Infinite music
4) Instant translation to and from hundreds of languages
I can't imagine travelling without a smartphone
Decimator24244@reddit
Dank memes
StrengthfromDeath@reddit
The modern day gooner lives in an unimaginable heaven compared to even the 90s gooner.
The_Doog_s@reddit
Porn, on the train, during rush hour.
Hawt_Dawg_II@reddit
Anon would literally rot and die without a phone
MagCatRed@reddit
Worth it
saketho@reddit
Same here.
MagCatRed@reddit
Hey friend. Please don't ever reply to one of my comments again. Thank you.
TheYeast1@reddit
What could he possibly have said
MagCatRed@reddit
They replied
"Same"
And then included a picture of Kermit the frog trying to figure out how to suck toes through the internet.
Tha_Hand@reddit
Porn on the go
redruler69@reddit
its a good tool for -light -camera and display to show/remember Things -find out nearly everything
though if i had the power to destroy smartphones/ social media, i would do it without hesitation, it ruined many years of social life experience, especially for myself.
Vex_Appeal@reddit
It’s powerful to have a phone in your pocket but I’ll add that cellphones led to spam calls and texts to the point that it’s a bad form of communication.
I don’t answer my phone and I miss lots of texts because I’m always getting bullshit spam or political texts from the GOPedos. Email? I have 60K unread. I don’t dare go in there unless I need to find something.
zarotabebcev@reddit
I think the camera & the bank app are pretty good. Everything else can go.
Bland-fantasie@reddit
Yeah the food outweighs the bad for most people, even if they can’t articulate it.
az9393@reddit
If you want to get some work done it’s pretty useful. But yeah more useful for big companies to basically get in on everyone’s life for fucking free.
vverbov_22@reddit
Anon is wrong(nothing new)
MrBingly@reddit
GPS/map, easy access to look up information, calculator. That's all I can think of.
moverwhomovesthings@reddit
You can search stuff on the internet.
You donlt have to wait until you are back home and then search it, you can prove your stupid fuckwit friends wrong right then and there.
kpingvin@reddit
maps - gps is always with you
multimedia messages - easier to send off the cuff images, videos or audio recordings
camera always at hand - eg. you get into a traffic incident, you can document it right away
instant banking - eg. instant notification of misuse of your bank account; check balance before big purchase
mobile tickets - no need to print and harder to lose
more convenient 2FA
Probably there's more, that's all I could come up with.
Toubaboliviano@reddit
UI design… lol. Anon clearly hadn’t seen early internet sites
Arstanishe@reddit
>ruined internet
translation: many more people are now able to use it, however they like and can. Gatekeeping much?
>ruined dating
maybe it was not the smartphones, but the dating apps? I remember in start of 2000s, how much those older sites wanted to squeeze money outta you for "premium". Sure, there were way less bots, and filters, but that is just progress for you
>socializing
Idk man, i am 43 now, nothing was ruined, i've socialized as normal?
>attention span
It was ruined already
>photography
yeah, sure. Gatekeeping again
>customer service
Idk man, it was not that bad until bots, bots ruined it
>electronics
again, not a smartphone thing. It's regulations thing. We should not allow the producers of those electronics to do that without some rules (like mandatory ability to not use it in case you don't want to)
> UI design and software
what he is talking about, i am a software dev for 20 years now, stuff got way better (*on my side at least)
>ruined tourism
huh?
>ruined entertainment
again, huh? a lot of GOATs over last 15-20 years
Anything good about smartphones? I can watch youtube while working haha, and goon in the bathroom. A huge improvement
Technical-Earth-3254@reddit
I can write and read fake and gay analysis on the go and I find that to be pretty sweet
_NOT_SO_PRECIOUS_ROY@reddit
Maps
ZeroByter@reddit
anon applies the same logic as ultra-religious jews
UsErNaMeS_aR_DuMb@reddit
How to explain backwards thinking to 4Chan: “What if the Jews are doing the same Badthink too?”