Who are taxi drivers talking to, and what are they talking about?
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Every time I get a non-English speaking taxi driver, the guy's constantly on his hands free, chatting away. Absolutely no problem with that, because I never want to chat to taxi drivers anyway, but who are they talking to (presumably) all day, every day? I can't imagine having that much to say to anybody, ever. Do they have radio shows? Phone sex businesses?
T1DD3R-@reddit
With another taxi driver, Thats how they spend their time.
herbdogu@reddit
I've worked in several places with large south-Asian work forces.
Often, our working hours are the best times for calls to and from the homelands, being approx 5-7 hours time difference.
So your taxi taking you to work is getting an international call from someone abroad just finished work, or the taxi taking you home from work, is getting a call from someone overseas heading to bed
When you factor in the large overseas family, many of whom could be elderly and retired, or the cultural differences with less females in FT employment but staying home with family, and all calling the emigrant family member (many to one), it starts to tally up.
JasonStatesUs@reddit
To add to this, a few of my friends from South Asia used to have “open calls” with their family. Basically a permanently open WhatsApp/facetime/discord/whatever call that family members could just drop in and out of during the day.
I really like that idea
Wino3416@reddit
Christ on a bike, that’s my idea of hell. What the bloody hell would you talk about all the time? I don’t get it.
JasonStatesUs@reddit
The idea was that they just pop in and out, and long periods of not talking wasn’t considered rude or awkward. A lot of the time, my friends were muted, but when somebody new joined the call, they would all chat for a bit.
Wino3416@reddit
That makes a bit more sense, as long as you’re not expected to yatter away continually I could perhaps cope. I think the difference between that culture and mine is perhaps that they concentrate on family whereas I would tend to (beyond my wife and family) prioritise friends over family. But I wouldn’t want to squawk away to my friends all day either. Isn’t life a rich tapestry eh?
wyrditic@reddit
I remember during Covid lockdown when some friends kept wanting to have these group Zoom calls every single day. It completely baffled me. We didn't speak every day before the lockdown, and now they wanted to chat knowing full well I've just been sat at home all day. I had run out of things to say and just wanted to go and read a book or something.
Cloud0-9@reddit
Me and the lads used to have an open discord call back in uni. Just pop in after class and someone’s usually online.
JasonStatesUs@reddit
Hard agree. I would never use it for my family, but I do quite like the idea of just having a place to pop in and see if anybody is available for a chat or something. Non-committal, just relaxed. We had something similar in lockdown, but it slowly faded away as we could meet up in public again.
scarby2@reddit
I miss this from my gaming days. There was a ventrillo/team speak server and due to the size of the clan/guild someone was basically always online.
yousorusso@reddit
Sounds like an absolute nightmare
DivineDecadence85@reddit
And here's me with my large family 15 miles away that I've been forgetting to visit or call for the last year.
sunheadeddeity@reddit
Call your Mum.
oscarx-ray@reddit
If you don't, I will!
PurpleBee212@reddit
I also choose this guy's mum
JustUseAnything@reddit
OUR Mum
Evening-Tomatillo-47@reddit
She calls me quite often
greenlightsmith242@reddit
She calls me afterwards. Leave some for the rest of us!
OneSufficientFace@reddit
She calls me big boy
oscarx-ray@reddit
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, don't let her get to you.
BlatantArtifice@reddit
Real one for that 😔
sillydog80@reddit
Calme by her name
marshaljs@reddit
I am the mom
FulktheBlack@reddit
Great reference
MrGrogu26@reddit
This guy mums.
robdelterror@reddit
Not you again.
iaderia@reddit
If you see your mum once per year, you'll only see her like 20 times before she passes
DivineDecadence85@reddit
Let's do it. Fetch me some incense and a ouija board.
Still-BangingYourMum@reddit
Good idea, I did.
External-Pen9079@reddit
One of my friends has set an alarm on her phone to tell me exactly the same thing every Sunday! 😂
AdhesivenessFlat7666@reddit
If you can please do! I’d give anything to hear mine again even if it’s just calling me a silly c*#t
selfinflatedforeskin@reddit
I’ll call you that if you like
Rastapopolos-III@reddit
She's okay, I call her fairly regularly.
tomgrouch@reddit
She was fine when I left this morning, even cooked me breakfast
kunstlich@reddit
15 miles is go and see territory.
222princessa@reddit
And that’s the difference between western and other cultures 🫣
Purple_Moon516@reddit
Mediterraneans are western and have strong family ties
APiousCultist@reddit
If we're going that way also the entirety of south america, the carribean, and a good chunk of Africa too (which somehow get excluded by virtue of being in the south). It's basically just made up though, since if you draw a line straight down the center of a map then you end up with the east/west divide starting in the middle of Germany and Norway.
Purple_Moon516@reddit
Completely agree. I am Mediterranean and we don't use the term "Western" precisely for that reason. Australia and new Zealand are more "western" in culture than Uruguay or Senegal and yet would be left out using that term.
youllbetheprince@reddit
It was not long ago that Italians were not considered white (aka western)
222princessa@reddit
Here come the semantics. Would it have been better if I said British culture instead?
Purple_Moon516@reddit
Yes if that's what you are referring to.
TravisTouchdownThere@reddit
With all due respect how do you get anything done? My brother calls me once a week and it will take up my entire evening. I get home from work about 8, by the time I've eaten and finished the phone call it's bed time. If I had to do that for my entire family, immediate and extended I'd never do anything except talk to them. We have a family group chat where anything important goes and we catch up in person semi-regularly. My case might be different because both of my actual parents are no longer with us but having to chat to my family all the time would drive me mental.
imafarmer18@reddit
Learn another language and become a taxi driver.
222princessa@reddit
Idk why you’re asking me because I’m in the same boat as you haha, phone calls kill time.
WashingTurds@reddit
Exactly this.
iaderia@reddit
If you see your mum once per year, you'll only see her like 20 times before she passes
massdebate159@reddit
I work night shifts and all of my Asian colleagues are talking on their headsets all night. This explains a lot.
ukstonerdude@reddit
I’d just like to add, that for a lot of places where these people are from, phone calls are often quite literally a luxury. Minutes or data can usually cost quite a lot of money.
I have family in South Africa, and so I’ve seen how some of the poorest and most deprived communities treat minutes like a commodity, especially if they are immigrants there themselves and still have family in places like Zimbabwe or Botswana. Not sure if this is the exact same in South/South East Asia, but I can’t imagine it’d be vastly different.
We really do take unlimited calls, texts and data for granted.
strolls@reddit
This information may be very specific to South Africa for some reason.
In much of the developing world data is incredibly cheap - the poor basically skipped landlines and home broadband and went staight to 5G.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-47537201
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ukstonerdude@reddit
Thanks for the added context; glad I said not sure if it’s the same lol
stressedoutaboutmula@reddit
Thats why you have whatsapp calls ,they dont consume much data , as long as they are not video calls
ukstonerdude@reddit
But they still consume data, and for some people data is still very expensive.
Amazing-Heron-105@reddit
Definitely doesn't feel like a luxury. I've been on long drives with taxi drivers and they are on the phone throughout with no downtime.
ukstonerdude@reddit
Yeah, well, if you’re making the outbound calls with unlimited calls and data, you are probably fine.
CautiousEmergency367@reddit
I asked a few people about this and they told me in south East Asian countries it's common to have a group call going that people pop in and out of all day, like they never hang up and just pick up and get back to talking when they feel like it.
So it's kinda like sitting in your lounge room and visitors just popping by to chat when they have time.
Plus-Shape2405@reddit
Huh, that actually makes a lot of sense. Never really thought about the time zone overlap like that, but yeah if it's prime time back home that explains the constant chatter.
Krasnystaw_@reddit
Or they just talk with mates on a phone. Your time explanation is completly off unless, taxi driver spread the seamen like a true sailor.
yazshousefortea@reddit
Hadn’t considered time difference. That makes complete sense. Thanks!
BaldPleaser@reddit
☝️This is the answer.
Well explained.
Admirable_Border_627@reddit
I assume it's a cultural thing. It's not just taxi drivers, every time I get on a bus I'm surprised by how many people are having never-ending phone calls.
As someone who spends less than one minute a month on the phone, it's very alien to me, I would feel extremely drained if I was on the phone to friends and family for hours a day.
vijjer@reddit
I don't use public transport to catch up with family, but then I have the luxury of having long enough car drives. For people without that option, travel time is what you'd use.
My parents are in their 70s, so there are only a few more years of being able to speak with them. What do we speak about? Usually gossip about their neighbours.
Any-Pattern8246@reddit
AND ON LOUD SPEAKER TOO and giving out their personal details. Or they are when I am on public transport and they are people on the phone .... had argument with someone on IG about that because that person on instagram claims "that doesn't happen at all WHY ARE YOU LYING". Am I? Just because it doesn't happen to you when you are on any public transport does not mean it doesn't happen at all. The nerve of some people on that one lool
Admirable_Border_627@reddit
It's crazy some of the things I hear people talking about out loud on public transport - personal health issues, relationship issues, all sorts. I would be absolutely mortified if anyone could overhear my personal conversations.
Asleep_Low_3133@reddit
I am also often shocked at the conversations people have on public transport, but also glad they have them so I get to hear a bit of goss. What can I say I’m a nosey person from the countryside!
stressedoutaboutmula@reddit
They dont know the people in the public transport , so what difference does it make ,if you hear their personal stories.The chances of bumping into you again are almost nil
Any-Pattern8246@reddit
True but then again when is it a boundary because some of the things I heard, on loud speaker, includes one person, who had clearly just hired someone new working for him and was asking the new hire for all the "important" new hire info like bank details, full names, address etc and that person was giving it out and the person had it on loudspeaker so everyone on the bus heard.
IDK how the new employee he hired did not clock the fact the person who hired him as was getting all that information was on a bus considering this was in London and the bus was oh so loudly stating each stop and the bus number and destination every 30 seconds nor how this person had him on speaker, because I guarantee you, you can tell when someone has you on speaker, well I can anyway. But thats more because I usually use wired headphones and I can tell by the volume of their voice because if they were using headphones or had the phone to their ears it would be dead loud but the further away you speak to the speakerphone the less "loud" they are
Aarityli@reddit
I can't stand the out-loud speaker phone calls lmao
Amazing-Heron-105@reddit
Is this still a sin if you're walking around on your own? Dunno why but I much prefer having the phone in front of me. Would never dream of doing it in an enclosed public space.
wilwem@reddit
Yes
Amazing-Heron-105@reddit
Clearly so
No_Arm8455@reddit
to be fair as a moderately deaf person its so much clearer hearing audio through the main speaker on the phone than on the one near your ear ... mostly because smartphone now are not really ergomically designed for phone calls really) , so sometimes there is a good reason (true also though though sometimes the reason is just inconsiderateness and then i can see your point ) but i would also be way too embarrassed to not at least try to get somewhere private when have a call out loud
noodlesandstout@reddit
There's a lot of Nepalese folk where I live and they are SO social! Always talking. Benches, walls, steps, busses, trains.. anywhere you can sit there will be either a crowd of friends/family, or someone on a phone call for hours. I think it's lovely how connected they make the effort to be! I don't think I'd want to be that social as I'm quite partial to my alone time, but the atmosphere it generates is lovely and really puts to shame how often i speak to my friends haha.
RuneClash007@reddit
Do you happen to live near Gravesend haha
MattyFTM@reddit
Been working with a lot of Nepalese, Indians and Pakistani's recently, and the Nepalese are always the most chatty. Both with themselves and with everyone else, too.
Extreme_Question2814@reddit
It’s keeping them from socializing in their new community though, if they’re out and about but never interacting with anyone there
blueroses8000@reddit
No one is socialising on the bus in the UK. And if they’re talking to their children and other immediate family at the only time they can then it’s not keeping them from anything, just like you spending time with your family at home wouldn’t be classed as keeping you from socialising with your community.
Routine_Ad1823@reddit
I heard a theory that lots of what people think is racism is just a misunderstanding about how socialable people thing others are (should) be.
Not sure I'm fully convinced but it was interesting.
Admirable_Border_627@reddit
It's difficult isn't it, I can see why there is some friction between people who think it is selfish and inconsiderate to be having loud phone calls in confined public spaces, and those from cultures where it is more socially acceptable to be loud, and it's seen as a positive thing to be so sociable.
I'm not going to begrudge someone making a phone call on a bus - as long as they're not on speaker and not shouting into the phone. If I can hear you over my noise-cancelling headphones, you are being too loud.
Admirable_Border_627@reddit
It does make me feel a little guilty about how often I speak to my friends and family, but I am very good at replying to texts at least haha
Naykon1@reddit
Surprised / fucking irritated.
Redcar31@reddit
Lock of inner dialogue
Interesting-Hawk-744@reddit
Yeah i hate having these thoughts because it's a slippery slope into outright racism, but the facts as I've observed them is it's almost always a non English speaker who has to have these long conversations, often on speaker. I had to buy noise cancelling headphones for the bus because it's so constant where I live now and Im sorry but it wasn't like this on public transport before the area became so 'multicultural.' the only white people i notice who do it are usually dumb chavs or the neighborhood melters, ones who ride the bus all day because they're on disability for their mental issues.
My housemate is African and he is generally super polite but he is always on calls in the house, yapping away when he's cooking, even in the bathroom. I don't just think it's being far away from family because I am, too. But when I'm going to have a long chat with someone I don't do it in public places or shared areas of the house unless no one is in them. Of course, if you are in your own house then you have every right to chat away on your phone but it's annoying when it's all the time and i wish it wasn't allowed on public transport full stop.
I think it's also a cultural thing not just the activity itself, but crucially i think that people from some foreign esp developing or 3rd world countries don't realize how extremely rude and annoying it is to cause such noise pollution, . Many places in Africa are loud AF bc of generators, India is loud AF. One thing I love about Japan is how it's looked at as very uncool to be loud and annoying in public, especially on public transport. I really think we need to make it more clear to the cretins that ruin everyone else's peace and quiet unnecessarily, that it's not acceptable. Unfortunately many just don't care tho. They finish their calls and go right back to watching brain rot reels and tiktoks at full volume. I also suspect it's some of them see having and using a phone as some kind of luxury status symbol because they come from poor countries. And then whatsapp and the like is free so it's actually entertainment that costs then nothing basically. If it was expensive as calls used to be they wouldn't do it anywhere near as much.
stressedoutaboutmula@reddit
You dont want people chatting on public transport , you seem to have an issue with your housemate who is always "yapping" in the house.So where should your housemate "yap" , since he cant do it on the public transport and also in the house.
Let people be
LeRaven78@reddit
If my phone rings, I'll wait until it stops then message them to ask what they want. I spend 0 minutes talking on mine😂
blueroses8000@reddit
Mine has stopped ringing because everyone’s on the same page now lol. So if it does ring I always answer now because it’s important.
Except for one aunt who still won’t learn to text so she can only do every little communication by calling. She also doesn’t understand that she can let her mobile ring if it’s not convenient for her and call back, especially as she can literally see who it is calling unlike the olden days where you were left wondering who called. But nope she still drops everything and runs to answer and then acts annoyed that it wasn’t that important and tells you it was very inconvenient for her to answer right now.
coffeeebucks@reddit
To be fair some people are just like that - my ex is 40 and has had a mobile phone since he was a teenager and still huffs every time his phone “interrupts” him. Like focus mode doesn’t exist.
blueroses8000@reddit
That’s very un millennial like of him! You just watch it ring and wait for it to stop, and nowadays it doesn’t interrupt what you’re already doing on your screen either!
Admirable_Border_627@reddit
Same. Mine would be 0 but I have to occasionally take calls from healthcare professionals and such.
PartManPartLobster@reddit
Most definitely a cultural things. I've had colleagues in past jobs who are from Ghana, Kenya, Sierra Leone and more. Always super friendly and always on the phone to friends and family. It is also very important in other countries and culture too.
One thing I will say is my former neighbor who lived in the flat below me had a very loud phone voice. She's Nigerian and was practically shouting at her friends and family in every phonecall. Had to remind her once or twice to keep the volume down after 11pm. She was always super apologetic about it.
stressedoutaboutmula@reddit
It wasnt shouting lol.People from Nigerian are generally loud.I am African and when some of my Nigerian friends are on the phone , i just want to take them to an empty football stadium,and they can hear their loud echos
parm00000@reddit
Yeah. Same with Asian owned convenience shops. They are often having a conversation on the phone and then pause to serve you, then resume.
Stock-Cod-4465@reddit
My observation - delivery guys on scooters, (mostly Somalian) women in hijabs with phones tucked into those, minicab drivers. The conversations seem to last for hours but I don’t know.
theworldsaplayground@reddit
And uber delivery's drivers. Always on the phone wittering in another language.
Admirable_Border_627@reddit
I live in a fairly quiet estate, and last week at around 10.30pm a delivery driver was cycling round in circles outside while shouting into his phone at a deafening volume for over 20 minutes.
People think because there are no people around them on the street that they're somewhere private, failing to notice the 100 flats around them.
cybertonto72@reddit
You could of been walking along the street and he still would of done the same.
Sure-Exchange9521@reddit
🐶😙
FirstAndOnly1996@reddit
It's not a bad observation in itself, but the use of the word 'wittering' gives me some bad vibes
Ok-Audience6417@reddit
Not really. It’s a valid observation.
cybertonto72@reddit
On full blast while telling for the 3rd time the phone isn't loud and to get their order... I really don't mind people talking on a phone, but if your job involves going into place of work, mute your phone for 5mins or call them back once you are done.
nuseht@reddit
Same. As an introvert with ME/CFS a few hours of this would necessitate a good fortnight of rest and recovery.
Terry__Tibbs@reddit
Certain demographics are allergic to peace and quiet
zoey2123@reddit
Especially on loud speaker
blueroses8000@reddit
I think the difference is you see your family and friends, including even your partner and children, when you want to and they’re often separated from them for very long periods and alone with just whoever they might be living with and maybe some work friends they’ve made.
Adventurous_Ad3693@reddit
This reminds me of the man at my local shop, he always has his earphones in and is on the phone whenever I go in there. It must be exhausting being on the phone for that long.
blueroses8000@reddit
They don’t find it exhausting, they find not having that kind of socialising draining instead. Life in South Asian countries like India is very open and sociable, in an average day you will interact, spend time and actively socialise with so many people without planning it.
Just on your way home from work for example you will meet a group of people by the river, they might not even be your actual friends but you know them so you stop and end up chilling and talking to them for an hour, and that’s not a one off, happens all the time. And you can just walk into your friends and family’s homes, door are all open, you can start eating and spending the evening with them unplanned, meet lots of other people outside the mosque/temple and spend time with them, walk past an uncle’s house and he’s on the porch with his friends so end up sitting with them for some time socialising and having life affirming conversations under the stars before heading home to sleep. And that would be a normal Tuesday.
So the UK feels very closed off and isolating in that way for people who are used to that, and this fills that for them.
crumpy22@reddit
Sounds like how life should be to be honest with you.
blueroses8000@reddit
The weather, the way homes are designed and people living close by is the key - all three of those mostly work against that kind of lifestyle being able to naturally develop in the UK unfortunately.
As children of first and second generation immigrants we’ve grown up in close knit communities here in the UK and experienced that being recreated as much as was possible in the UK, growing up going in and out of our aunts and uncle’s homes from the back door as everyone bought houses next door/opposite. In the summer days and nights it was glorious, we’d all gather outside just to spend time and have celebrations like weddings etc in big tents.
That’s all fading away now slowly as the generations move further along.
Wino3416@reddit
We aren’t fundamentally unhappy because we don’t live in each other’s pockets. It’s not just about weather and houses. We build a family life and we don’t, quite frankly, want Aunty Joan and Uncle Bobby walking into into our home that we have established telling us why we are doing x y and z wrong. I value my extended family’s opinions but they’re opinions, not rules. I have friends who I’ve CHOSEN. I’d rather socialise with people I’ve chosen than people I’m related to who may not be my type of people. I love my mum and my sister dearly. My brother in law: not so much. My late aunt was an arse. I’d rather shit in my hands and clap than spend time with her.
blueroses8000@reddit
I don’t know why you’re replying to me like that, I didn’t say anyone is unhappy?
I replied to the poster saying they liked the sound of that life saying it’s not possible in the same way here but our community recreated it as much as possible and have had wonderful times but things are changing.
Nothing to do with what you like or don’t for yourself..
crumpy22@reddit
I'm sorry to hear that it's changing for you. When I read the description (of stopping by the river, then friend's and family's houses, and then uncle's porch) it just sounded idyllic and I don't have anything like that - it's very anonymous around here. I do still think there's a balance but there's a part of me that pines for a community and social connections like that. It just sounded so natural and nice.
blueroses8000@reddit
Yeah we still love going back there for that lifestyle as it really clicks for your mental health and feeling peaceful and happy instantly. Even just sitting outside the house and garden and watching the world go by is so peaceful and enjoyable.
We also do things like get ready for a day trip to the beach or a shopping and food trip in the next city and whoever hears about it and wants to joins us even last minute and it turns into a an amazing day of unexpected memories. Once we were going for ice cream and an old lady we know was walking past and we told her to jump in and she did! And came for an ice cream evening outing without letting her family know. Stuff like that is so normal there and everyday is different. You also get invited to a tonne of weddings that are outside and huge and just massive community events, like going to a 5 day festival. Everyday is just fun, interesting and filled with company.
But I also acknowledge it’s easier for us to visit for a while to enjoy all that and come back here where we enjoy many other things. Our grandparents/parents did move here initially for a reason of course, even though our family was well off there it was still proving a more stable future for us here. It’s a shame we can’t have the best of both worlds! I really think if the weather in the UK was consistently better year round it would be a very different place and at least have a bit more community and interaction, look at what happens on just a few heatwave days.
Wino3416@reddit
Fair enough, forgive me being a little defensive, there’s a LOT of sneering on here about how UK people are “closed off”, “fickle”, “miserable”, “lonely” and I just wanted to make it clear that just because we aren’t sat in each other’s pockets all the time we aren’t unhappy. Well some of us are, but some people everywhere are unhappy! FWIW I have a very good Indian friend, he and his wife moved to the UK a few years ago, and at the moment he has both sets of parents staying with them, one live in the US the other in India. He rang me from work the other day and pleaded for me to go round and make a fuss about asking him to go out to the pub, as “they’ll say to go if you’re there”. He said he feels like he can’t escape and that while he loves them to bits he’s got so used to being more independent that he feels stifled.
Wino3416@reddit
Not to me it doesn’t! I’m a very sociable person but it has to have limits and constraints. I cannot abide the sort of thing mentioned here. Doesn’t make it wrong, obviously, but equally they should appreciate that we don’t want to be like them. I like my family but bollocks to speaking to them all day every day.
crumpy22@reddit
Do you mean because of the doors being open and people dropping in any time? I was referring to the comment directly above about the evening description and spending time with people...
Wino3416@reddit
Absolutely. My wife is from a more open culture and since living in the UK has said she now appreciates more privacy. But ideally we’d like and we try to have a kind of balance between the two cultures.
crumpy22@reddit
Yeah, I can understand that. It would get a bit too much for me if people were dropping in every evening, in all honesty. I suppose as with everything, there's a balance and the key is to find it and what works for you!
Wino3416@reddit
Exactly! I think what some (not all!) people misunderstand about more reserved cultures is that we DO love our mothers, aunties, cousins etc, we do, we just have a different approach. We don’t need or want to be constantly discussing with each other what is going on and what our opinions on every single happening are. It is, by definition, more reserved, but that doesn’t mean we love them any less. My mum lives two streets away. I don’t just walk into her house because she has an active social life with friends and it feels intrusive to do that, and she has her own rhythms and appreciates her own privacy. Likewise with us she’ll call before coming round. There is more of an emphasis on friends who we choose rather than relatives we have no choice over. I have relatives i dislike who I don’t speak to, and relatives I adore who I would do anything for. If I don’t like them I have no prerogative to be in contact with them because of blood ties. Nobody minds that. That’s the fundamental difference. Also, there’s less pressure to conform to family norms.. if my mum disapproves of something that we do I’ll listen to her view but ultimately it’s my and my immediate family’s decision as to what we do. There’s no pressure to conform to a family view. I love my sister dearly, but our politics differ significantly and that’s fine.. she’s free to follow her own life.
Wino3416@reddit
I get what they’re saying but here’s a thing. My wife is South African now living in the UK with me and our two children. Her family are a little like this, always chatting, always round each other’s houses, every time I go I have to visit a myriad of people I can’t remember and pretend I’m deeply involved in their lives. They don’t seem to have many friends, it’s all about family. Nothing wrong with that but it’s not my cup of tea. My wife misses her family a lot BUT has said on many occasions that she now could not cope with the lack of privacy and constant phone calls and house visits. They talk every day on the phone but not for hours. We love visiting them but I do find it exhausting. They cannot cope with the fact that my mother rings me up to ask if she can come round and vice versa. Many Indians know tell me they feel smothered by their families, so it’s not entirely a hugely popular thing. Just my thoughts.
blueroses8000@reddit
Yeah it’s about balance, it’s usually the ones that have moved from their country and family are still there that keep up with it all as they miss it. For us who were born here and our parents who moved a long time ago have a mix of both cultures going on now.
We still are very family orientated, we walk into our uncles and aunts homes unannounced and cousins are like our best friends, all occasions are full of family etc. But as time goes things get more and more British, like our generation are not letting nieces and nephews walk in to our homes lol. It’s just what naturally feels comfortable and evolves.
Wino3416@reddit
I entirely agree. I would ideally like a mix between both cultures. My wife’s culture is South African and we have achieved a balance. It works for us, and that’s great!
Consistent-Detail518@reddit
I dated a south Asian girl long distance a few years ago & she wanted to be on the phone for hours a day, even when she wasn't on the phone with me she was on the phone with friends or family.
Personally I started to dread the phone calls as I could never think of enough things to say, I dont know how they do it, definitely a massive cultural difference.
SlaBLister@reddit
You're that anti British ?
Wino3416@reddit
What does that mean? Why is he anti British?
SlaBLister@reddit
He isn't dating a British gir)
Wino3416@reddit
I’m married to a South African, because we met and fell in love. Is that ok with you?
SlaBLister@reddit
Does it matter what I think? as long as you don't pretend to be patriotic.
Consistent-Detail518@reddit
I am dating a British girl now, the girl I was talking about was years ago. But her British-ness was not a factor in me deciding to start dating her.
JustUseAnything@reddit
This is the same for the Asian fellas in my local petrol station. Constantly talking on their phones while serving.
discoveredunknown@reddit
Have a couple of Indians at work and they are ALWAYS on the phone. No idea who they are talking to.
SlaBLister@reddit
How often do you know who your coworkers are talking to in general?
Wino3416@reddit
But the point is they’re not CONSTANTLY on the phone..
SlaBLister@reddit
People often complain about not speaking the local language, forcing beliefs onto others and actually harmful practices. and of everything, you have an issue with constantly being on the phone...?
Wino3416@reddit
It’s not an issue, I find it mildly amusing if anything. I can’t imagine having that much to say or be that interested in anything I’d stay on the phone for that long. I don’t mind others doing it as long as it’s not intrusive or interferes with my or their work. Cultural differences fascinate me: my wife is South African and I have a lot of friends who’ve moved to the UK from India. We discuss and joke about stuff like this all the time.
Wrong-booby7584@reddit
Their other employer
pellson@reddit
I find this thread hilarious and I don't know why. Props to Middle Eastern men driving taxis while simultaneously doing raidoshows and parenting.
RelationshipLife6739@reddit
A lot of the Indians, Pakistanis and Chinese people on my university course will be sat on FaceTime mid lecture. It’s actually insanely disrupting I can’t lie like I’ve paid £15k in tuition fees this year to come and learn, not to listen to ur transnational phone call with ur mum.
Wino3416@reddit
That’s just WRONG. I’d be kicking off about that. Rude twats.
RelationshipLife6739@reddit
Unfortunately I’m an MSc student and I’m one of only 3 white British people on my course. These demographics make up 95% of our course so there’s not much I can do tbh.
December126@reddit
Same with other jobs, like in my last office work place, there was cleaner who would always be on the phone with someone when she was cleaning, I didn't mind or anything but I always wondered who she were talking to, if it's multiple people or always the same person, what she was talking about as if it was in a different language and like how she can talk for so long when tbh I'd run out of things to say after a while. Tbh in a way I'm jealous of those people, they clearly have really close friends/relatives or a partner back home and thats really nice, when I've been away from home for long periods of time I'll have a 1 hour call with loved ones at the most per week.
_ThePancake_@reddit
I think it's a cultural thing, they're a lot closer to their families than white british usually are.
Tbh my non white friends have all told me that they think the dynamic of white families is really weird and cold to them. It got me thinking about it and I do think we might be the global outliers with how it's culturally not only accepted but celebrate to just leave at 18-21 and never look back.
Wino3416@reddit
Fascinating stuff. Do they understand that we have friends who we CHOSE so that’s who we’d rather spend time with? And that many people don’t have to “fill” their day with chatter? If I’m doing stuff I concentrate. I don’t want my mum telling me about Aunty Ethel’s piles. My wife’s family are South African and I once had to intervene in a gathering of what felt like 5 million people who came round before we went to the airport. They kept praying for “travelling mercies” for us, praying we got to the airport OK, that the flight went OK etc etc and to top it all off, Uncle Bobby got his guitar out. I said as politely as I could muster that if we actually LEFT and went to the airport rather than praying and singing, we’d be more likely to have a successful journey. I was tearing my hair out. They all thought it was funny as fuck.
crumpy22@reddit
There seems to be more of an emphasis on looking after elderly parents too in my experience.
_ThePancake_@reddit
True, though the way my Filipino friend explained it to me is that there is no free education in many countries so its kind of seen as a "we gave up our quality of life for you to educated enough to have this job, the least you can do is repay us". but in like... a culturally expected "thank you" way, not a demanding way. Then she added that she personally is grateful not to feel that pressure because she got her gcses in the UK and got student loan in the UK as she was a citizen by the time she was 18 lol
emimagique@reddit
Who tf can afford to leave at 18-21 😭 I had to live with my parents until I was 30
_ThePancake_@reddit
I was pretty much forced to go to university as a means of getting out aha. I do wonder what would've come of me had I not been successful....I don't have a bed there.
starsandbribes@reddit
They think its strange yet when I talk to people who live with their families all they do is bitch about their in-laws and over protective parents being nosy. So they seem to hate it themselves.
buffayrachel@reddit
Yup, this is what I don’t get, they all do it because it’s tradition and expected, but the vast majority of them passionately hate it.
chadgalaxy@reddit
I'd be close to topping myself if I had to spend all day every day with every family member. An hour at my Dads house every week winds me up beyond belief. Do these societies not have introverts?
ImmanuelK2000@reddit
they do, but they just shun them.
_ThePancake_@reddit
I mean that sounds like threatening them with a good time lol
buffayrachel@reddit
That’d be my preferred option ngl
buffayrachel@reddit
Same here. Every Christmas dinner or whatever when there’s 5+ more family members at once I want to start pulling my hair out about 30 minutes in…. Hell, even at home just me and my parents I hate it about 30% of the time
Ratiocinor@reddit
You do realise that's like someone with a toddler bitching about how much work their kid is or someone with a high flying job earning 200k bitching about how annoying work is right?
It doesn't mean they want to give it up, people just love to moan
GrandeOui@reddit
I think we have to remember that they have very lonely jobs. The same with HGV drivers. Days and days on their own in a cab. We organise our lives with conversation. Many psychologists have said that. They need it, daily, sometimes constant conversation to keep them on earth. Just like we all do to an extent.
aeropagitica@reddit
Friends, family, other taxi drivers.
monkey_kaleidoscope@reddit
I can speak a bit of Hindi, it’s usually about me, “omg I just picked up some absolute dickhead… yeah that’s right from the pub, wants me to take him home. Fuck sake I hate this job dealing with these pricks.. yeah I’m gonna go the long way back, get an extra few quid out of him.. ah mate yeah I hate him so much and he’s only just got in the car”
Better-Economist-432@reddit
lmfao I kind of hope this is true
monkey_kaleidoscope@reddit
Yeah as someone else correctly pointed out above, exaggerating for comedic effect. They mostly just chatting with friends or family back home.
Better-Economist-432@reddit
I just like the exact phrasing of their comment lol but yea I could tell it was either exaggerated or totally made up
PatchworkMann@reddit
'lmfao' you say is that some kind of codename?
First_Acanthaceae446@reddit
Laugh my fucking ass off
PatchworkMann@reddit
ik, it was a reference
First_Acanthaceae446@reddit
I know, mine was a sarcastic reply 😭
I-Like-MTB@reddit
Cousin of lmao?
PatchworkMann@reddit
thankyou somebody got it
Quintless@reddit
i doubt it i’ve never heard this and if you’re brown they won’t say stuff like that just in case
Silver_SnakeNZ@reddit
"Passenger benchod hai"
grockle90@reddit
He did *what* to his sister?
I used to work with a Punjabi guy who was on a mission to teach me every single swear word... Just had to run this through Google Translate to check it was similar to what I thought it was (indeed it is). I'm guessing, like with English and Frisian, despite being distinctly different languages they have enough root similarities that speakers of one *might* understand the other?
iaderia@reddit
Legend! I had a Polish coworker that did the same
Noobhackerz@reddit
Yes mate, we all definitely believe you know just enough hindi to know exactly how the driver is cussing you out for no reason
SubordinateClawss@reddit
I think he was exaggerating for comic effect.
ShoePillow@reddit
Oh, lol
Pricey_101@reddit
That's a lot of hindi
JizzProductionUnit@reddit
Clearly doesn't know the hin-dos and the hin-don'ts
Sad-Platypus-48@reddit
My man 👊
ShoePillow@reddit
That's assault!
jamie__0@reddit
If I get crucified maybe he'll start a religion in my name. Jeremyism
monkey_kaleidoscope@reddit
I’m a Jeremist
Winston_Carbuncle@reddit
Silly gora
RobertTheSpruce@reddit
I always figured they are talking to Wolverhampton Council where for some reason %90% of fucking taxis in the country seems to be registered.
Bean7894@reddit
It's cheaper and easier to get registered there, it's a well known secret in Manchester. It's illegal so you can report them if they're mainly working outside Wolverhampton
RobertTheSpruce@reddit
With the sheer amount that are registered there, I dont think its a secret.
I spend my time around Derby, Nottingham and Leicester and the vast majority of taxis have Wolverhampton Council badges.
Wretched_Colin@reddit
A lot of these guys are pulling serious hours just to make a living. And instead of sitting round the house with their wife and kids, they are working.
They get onto a WhatsApp call and leave the line open in their home. Kids walk past, stop for a chat, talking to their wives, visitors to their houses etc.
It’s a tough life for them but the technology makes it a lot better.
Open-hole@reddit
People from every background are putting in serious hours to make a living, that doesn't excuse inconsiderate cultural practices like having loud phone calls on speakerphone in public.
HotelPuzzleheaded654@reddit
I always end up embarrassing myself asking “what’s that mate?”
auto98@reddit
I had the most embarassing moment about 2 weeks ago in an Uber - a call came in and was showing on his screen, I thought he was asking me to press the "answer" button for him which I thought was weird, but I did it, he started pissing himself laughing and pointed out he was asking if it was ok for him to take the call, not to answer it for him.
ThrobbingGristle@reddit
You reached over from the back? Or are you one of those weirdos that sits in the front?
laughinggrvy@reddit
This was my immediate thought! They must've been sitting in the front?? They had already embarrassed themself by taking the passenger seat.
SignificantAssociate@reddit
Efficient answer albeit passive aggressive!
anomalous_cowherd@reddit
Well I guess you proved you didn't mind him answering the call!
Srapture@reddit
Last time I took an Uber, I responded three times to my driver before he pointed to his earpiece. Bruh, how was I meant to know that?
Stingin_Belle@reddit
I do that in aldi then realise they're talking to a colleague on their headpiece
DaughterOfATiredMech@reddit
This!
Strong_Muffin3941@reddit
It should be them who are embarrassed for being so rude, to be honest.
polodabear2001@reddit
“Huh?” taxi driver motions to phone
AccomplishedBug4331@reddit
This is so embarrassing when it shouldn't be at all as it's a natural reaction really. The ails of being British haha
DHV-938D@reddit
I do that in the barbers when they're talking to eachother
HotelPuzzleheaded654@reddit
Same, that’s even worse because you’ve got an audience of customers waiting behind you.
GrandadBill@reddit
Every single time
PracticeEast1423@reddit
they maybe talking to their families esp when it comes to expats
2point4children@reddit
The same for door dashes, always on the phone talking waiting for food parcels to pick up. I said to the wife the other day, they are always on the phone talking to someone
Avionykx@reddit
As a white, English speaking person here I think perhaps I can offer some context.
I used to be a HGV driver and once CB radios fell out of favour and mobile phones came in I'd generally spend most of the day receiving calls from other drivers in the company or other friends in the industry all bored of being sat in our cabs on endless trudges across the UK/Europe and fancying a chat.
There was probably 15 odd drivers I'd speak to every few days, an hour talking to someone a day, a few different people a day asking where you're going and what you're doing, about traffic and other things like that if you're in the same area or asking advice on how to find parking in a certain city or part of the world.
It could be the same conversations over and over again every few weeks but it kept the boredom off and there was music in between.
I've always imagined it's just a similar sort of thing
bumpoleoftherailey@reddit
That’s very wholesome! It must have really changed the whole job, from being very solitary to one where you can have long calls with friends and family?
And because I’m in bed at 0545 which is when all the best ideas happen - how about a redesigned cab, that gives the driver the option of sitting in the traditional style, or standing? It’d be much healthier and there could even be a walking pad built in! Obviously the pedals would have to be replaced with hand-controlled mechanisms but I’ll leave that to the professionals.
having_an_accident@reddit
That lowkey sounds really nice. Like, getting a call from your other HGV driver being like ‘what you up to?’ and just having a little chat
AlucardVTep3s@reddit
As a trade plate driver, I agree. Sometimes a 6-7hr drives daily and eventually the music drives you to insanity. Moved to podcasts/videos that don’t require visual attention. Then I started ringing different mates and family, talking about mundane topics.
anomalous_cowherd@reddit
Is there still as much call for trade plate drivers, I haven't seen any for ages?
Is it still a job where you end up having to find a lift or else get stranded miles from home? Or is it more organised now? Can't see much hope for hitchhiking, although waving a trade plate would help a lot.
blueroses8000@reddit
As someone who hates phone calls and hated them even when it was more common in the late 90s/early 00s as there wasn’t any other communication method, this does help me relate more to people who like phone calls to just chat.
Like obviously your example is specifically about people who are alone, very bored and in a situation where they can’t do anything else for hours, but it’s still helped me see that kind of feeling that some people must have more of inside them naturally all the time even without being in that situation. Like they feed off that kind of stimulation and interaction and feel that empty and bored without it.
I used to hate it when a couple of friends always wanted to call and talk about nothing whilst they’re just at home. I used to find it a huge waste of time as I’m not someone that can do anything else whilst on a call and I honestly have nothing to say for that long continuously and it made me anxious to fill in the whole call. I’d essentially feel trapped in my own home.
Many times nowadays when someone wants to call like that (which isn’t too often) I’ve just gone over to visit them instead as I prefer that in person interaction and spending time than the pressure of a phone call and feeling trapped. It’s better quality time if you’re near enough to them to do that anyway.
ModsSindArschlocher@reddit
Have you folks never heard of audiobooks or podcasts?
Back in the day when I was a courier, I have "books on tape", now it's all in the phone. Makes the miles fly by.
head_face@reddit
Great suggestion, less human interaction, more podcasts.
catsnstuff17@reddit
Right? I feel like a right idiot now having made the effort to form friendships and a family when I could have just been listening to podcasts and audio books!
Wind-and-Waystones@reddit
It's not too late to trade the family and friends in for audible credits. You could probably get the entire discworld series by giving Bezos your nan.
ceelo_purple@reddit
Shame this comment was made in AskUK and not one of the subs where the mods turn never-before-used sentences into user flairs
holytriplem@reddit
So basically, it's a way of avoiding becoming like Travis Bickle?
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
Hey OP aren’t you going to question this white,english person for doing the same thing that the south asian drivers are doing?
ImmanuelK2000@reddit
and that is one of the reasons we will all be better off when driving is fully automated. That kind of setup cannot be good for a human.
peppermint_aero@reddit
That's actually so nice
Resident_Resident154@reddit
My guess is other taxi drivers. Every profession seems to have its own unofficial group chat, theirs just happens to run 12 hours a day.
ShortGirlUK@reddit
My boyfriend is an english speaking London Black Cab driver. When I’m not at work we’re usually on the phone, to be honest sometimes in silence as i go about my day but usually chatting about something, there is always something to chat about :)
passportpowell2@reddit
Group chats with other drivers. I literally asked a few times and it’s that or family/ friends chats
Moomoocaboob@reddit
My last Uber driver had an incoming call which he asked if it was okay to take - said it was his brother. They spoke Saraiki the entirety of the 30 minute journey home and as someone who experiences ASMR I was in heaven.
omghiemma@reddit
Usually general chit chat with friends to avoid awkward silences
ProductOfDetroit@reddit
Blacks and foreigners be talkin
simundo86@reddit
It’s annoying as fuck, concentrate on the road
Flaramon@reddit
Makes me feel uncomfortable having to interrupt their conversation to ask simple questions. Getting in, I'm always thinking "Are they pissed off with me?"
DivineDecadence85@reddit
I hate having to fight for attention so I can ask how long their shift is tonight and if it's been busy.
Srapture@reddit
Having to yell over them to find out how many MPG their Toyota Prius does is really frustrating.
iamabigtree@reddit
You must also assertain at what time their working day is likely to conclude.
SlaBLister@reddit
Then don't take the taxi if it bothers you that much.
PossessionComplex945@reddit
Drive yourself then silly boy
simundo86@reddit
I talk to your mum all the time
PossessionComplex945@reddit
As expected
pip_goes_pop@reddit
3 phones on the go, conversation with a relative on one, directions on another, messages from taxi colleagues on another.
Master-Trick2850@reddit
It seems to be an indian thing, not just taxi drivers but also deliveroo drivers do it
ZoneNo5065@reddit
This. Our neighbour's are Indian and they are on the phone to family CONSTANTLY. The lady will just do laps of her garden all afternoon with her Mum on Facetime, every day, then be out again doing the same in the evening. Any time I see them they have a phone in their hand and a little face trapped in there just along for the ride. Even saw him chatting to someone on Facetime while mowing the lawn.
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
God forbid people want to stay close to their families. Then again, this is such an individualistic culture that some people treat their parents like a problem to outsource the second they get old enough for a care home
222princessa@reddit
Idk why you’re getting downvoted🤣🤣 they hated Jesus cus he told the truth!!
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
They’re so allergic to community and family bonds, then wonder why everyone feels isolated. Didn’t the West practically invent hyper-individualism in the first place? Probably TrIggErEd 🤣
Wino3416@reddit
Tell us you misunderstand a culture without saying you misunderstand a culture. I love my family dearly but I don’t need to be constantly talking to them for them to know that and for me to know that. I don’t feel isolated. Many people who feel smothered by their families feel more isolated than those who are more reserved with the time they spend with their families. It isn’t one extreme or the other, it’s nuanced.
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
The irony of saying “tell us you misunderstand a culture” while refusing to grasp that some cultures are simply more communal and family-oriented is incredible. Nobody said your way is wrong it seems that you’re just offended that other cultures communicate differently from yours.
Wino3416@reddit
Not at all. I’m saying you misunderstand my culture. I entirely grasp that some cultures are more family oriented, I even said in another post that my wife’s culture is like this. I don’t think it’s wrong in the slightest, I’m saying that more reserved cultures still respect family without the constant communication. I have no beef with that culture.
222princessa@reddit
And their fickle minds struggle to comprehend when/why people do their best (even when it’s inconvenient) to stay in contact with family miles away 🤣🤣
ZoneNo5065@reddit
Dude, you can maintain relationships without having constant contact with someone.
SlaBLister@reddit
Have you taken into consideration the possibility that they're talking to more than one person/household? Yeah, some people have more than 3 friends in the real world
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
Some people genuinely can’t comprehend cultures where staying connected to family is considered important rather than “clingy” or inconvenient 😭
SlaBLister@reddit
It's unreal. This subreddit is a constant reminder that it doesn't represent the real country. Only redditors could see having phone calls as a bad thing
Wino3416@reddit
Fickle? What the heck are you talking about? Because I’m not taking to my mum and my aunty Joan for 13 hours a day about what uni cousin Bobby is going to and so I know that Jane is pregnant and blah blah doesn’t mean I’m fickle. What an odd choice of words.
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
It’s funny how people from hyper-individualistic cultures act confused when others genuinely enjoy staying close with family abroad
Aarityli@reddit
they were making observations, not judgements. but you seem to be making a lot of the latter - with quite sweeping generalisations. who is 'they', with their 'fickle minds' supposed to be referring to ?
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
Well I don’t know either, that was the wording used by the original commenter I was replying to 😅 I was agreeing with the general point about family-oriented cultures, not assigning “they” to some specific group
Aarityli@reddit
'they’re so allergic to community and family bonds, then wonder why everyone feels isolated. Didn’t the West practically invent hyper-individualism in the first place? Probably TrIggErEd 🤣' - who is 'they' ?
222princessa@reddit
Probably the people who downvoted the comment?? 🤣🤣 hardly rocket science to figure out
Aarityli@reddit
Then why make weird generalisations about how ‘everyone feels isolated’ and the west 😭😭
Wino3416@reddit
God forbid you immediately assume that if people aren’t on the phone 24 hours a day then that must mean they never ever speak to their family. Reddit bollocks. There is nothing wrong with being more reserved, so wind your wee neck in.
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
“People speak to their families a lot”
“SO YOU THINK RESERVED PEOPLE ARE EVIL???”
Absolute Olympic-level leap there mate
Wino3416@reddit
Not really. The person I answered said that and I quote “it’s such an individualistic culture that some people treat their parents like a problem to outsource”. My point was and is, that whilst some people may be like that, it’s not the necessary outcome of an individualistic culture. Not that difficult.
ZoneNo5065@reddit
I dunno, I love my Mum but I couldn't have her on Facetime all day long!
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
Not everyone are the same
ZoneNo5065@reddit
Just FYI - we are making observations, not judgements.
SlaBLister@reddit
My observation is that certain brits (hint: the redditors) have so much time on their hands that they bother about what some Asians do with their social lives.
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
🫶🏼
AlucardVTep3s@reddit
It’s an Asian thing😂Once my mum has gone through the list of UK friends to call, she then goes through the PK list. Hours and hours and of shouting and repeating because of the poor connection too😂
TheAlmightyDeity@reddit
Genuine question, what are they usually talking about?
As a British guy, I always feel like I don't want to bother & interrupt people with phone calls, and only tend to phone people of I have something important worth sharing lol
FaizaPKI@reddit
Judgmental shit.
blueroses8000@reddit
They just like to chat. So anything really, look at how we’re all chatting on Reddit here, it’s just like that but in the phone lol.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit
Various things really: clothes, weddings, kids, kids studies, when they want their kid to marry, religion, politics, general gossip, etc
You’ll find that every Asian aunty in the UK is a foreign relations expert apparently, and the leading cause of global collapse is my messy bedroom.
Big_Miss_Steak_@reddit
I was going to say similar- the reason Asians are on the phone so much is that we have too many people to talk to 😭.
My mum has the UK lot, the India lot and the North American contingent. She’s 24/7!
Spid1@reddit
You don't get many Indian taxi drivers
Honey-Badger@reddit
I would say African too
AI_Grandad@reddit
Its usually because they consult their family on everyday matters aswell as important ones.
Family is usually their number one priority with the idea that if they cant be physically close to them , they remain close through communication.
Kindly_Difference_99@reddit
The funniest thing I find is the corner shop owners talking to their wives over the phone but both completely silent for long bouts of time. I always wondered why
BalthazarOfTheOrions@reddit
English speaking drivers, in my experience, do this too.
ringordt@reddit
Appreciate if you have no internal voice then you like to chatter a lot.
PhysicsForeign1634@reddit
No problem with that? I'd rather their mind was on the driving.
Uptightkid@reddit
Actually it is rude and inconsiderate. Focus on the road mate.
And as a passenger, I would not have the nerve to have a long phone chat when in a taxi.
It’s a small shared space.
Shut up, play the radio at low volume. Chat to your hearts content between jobs.
charlibeau@reddit
Arab men love to talk to other Arab men. They will spend hours on the phone with their bestie. I used to find it strange but after spending time in the Middle East, I understand now!
DaughterOfATiredMech@reddit
lol my husband could talk all day if I let him.
ilikebooksandcoffeee@reddit
My dad is arab and a cab driver. He tries not to take calls whilst with customers in general. The only calls he really speaks in other languages are when he is talking to family overseas, otherwise it is english.
I am assuming it is relatives, especially what with the time differences like others are saying.
bwc7plus@reddit
I’m glad someone finally asked this, been pondering this for yearsssss
SlaBLister@reddit
Redditors when they find out other people have pretty healthy social relations and talk on the phone as a result.
ShoePillow@reddit
Your mum, bitchin bout you
darybrain@reddit
As a punjabi speaker who knows a fair bit of hindi and urdu to cover much of the south asian drivers and some swahili to cover the east African drivers I like it when there conversations are on speaker because then I sit in the front and join in. I prefer sitting in the front anyway to chat to the cabbie regardless if they are talking to someone else as it kills my boredom for a bit.
ImportantMortgage1@reddit
The 8 hour WhatsApp audio call; it's broadly a South Asian thing.
Quite common for them to be on the phone to friends / cousins back home for several hours a day. Not even talking for most of it, just kinda hanging out remotely. A bit like what Jim and Pam did (The Office US) when Pam was away in New York.
I don't mind taxi drivers doing it, as long as they're concentrating. Hate it on public transport.
Key_Crab_5780@reddit
Almost every other time on the National Express going to or from Heathrow. The entire journey.
imtravelingalone@reddit
Hate it on public transport especially when they've got it on speaker for no fucking reason. No one wants to hear your half of the endless conversation, let alone the whole fucking thing where you have to talk loudly because you've got the phone in your fucking lap and someone else shouting into the other end because they've got it sat in their lap as well. It's a fucking phone, hold it up to your ear, how can this possibly be difficult to understand.
dunzdeck@reddit
My dream move is recording it and then playing it back... on speaker. I'm usually (read: generally) too cowardly to actually attempt it, though
cybertonto72@reddit
I started to get involved with the conversations when they are on the bus. They soon realise that I can hear every word. And either stop or say something.
kevio17@reddit
I see it in the local off-licenses and newsagents a lot too. Got no problem with it tbh
Terry__Tibbs@reddit
They should learn that its rude in British culture
Honey-Badger@reddit
I do actually mind when I get into a car and they're using the cars handsfree or even speakerphone, not exactly chill getting into a car and having some random conversation fill your ears
ImportantMortgage1@reddit
Fair take.
Technical-Amount-278@reddit
The UK is a very lonely country, especially when you've moved here for work. You've left all your family, friends, relatives and social contacts back home. Is it really strange that someone would be on call with their people that often, especially where you have no one in the country to talk to?
Wino3416@reddit
Can you qualify why the UK is lonely please? I can, to a degree, understand why people who’ve moved here for work and not yet made friends might think it for a while, but just because we don’t live in each other’s pockets doesn’t make us lonely. That’s quite rude, to be honest.
Decent_Confidence_36@reddit
There talking to other taxi drivers about other taxi drivers… on getting there licence they are assigned a shouting buddy and are contractually obliged to shout with them during there shifts
Linkyjinx@reddit
Chatting with different family members I expect, just like the average, white Brit does. Families and friends often overlap, especially in the countryside or out of town. I switch my phone off apart from messages and essential calls, otherwise I would have been, well… the babysitter for life, that was my role for years in exchange for food and company
username994743@reddit
Second job at customer support 😆👌
SnowLeopard349@reddit
I would love to know- they always say it’s their friend or their brother to me
I like it though, I hate chit chat or silence in a taxi so I’m happy for them to talk to someone
FollowingAcrobatic88@reddit
It always seem like a one sided conversation too, like there’s no pauses for replies or answers to questions
Thekokza@reddit
They're generally so low IQ, they don't have an inner monologue. They need something to fill the space with, so they just talk about completely mundane superficial topics for hours on end with family members or friends.
trevhcs@reddit
Exactly the same with petrol stations at least here. Must be a cultural thing at a guess. Couldn't be arsed to talk to people that much.
crumpy22@reddit
Yes - I'll be honest - I don't really like it when you go into a shop and the person behind the till is on their mobile phone while they're running up your items or taking your payment. It feels really uncomfortable, like you're interrupting their conversation. And you can't talk to them/ask anything very easily either.
Electrical-Hearing49@reddit
Had a taxi driver facetiming his missus/mistress and she was doing all sorts on camera, it was hilarious
nick_barlow@reddit
Turn ai translocation on and listen
Unhappy_Performer538@reddit
I did that before in Rome. Parts of the conversation that actually translated were like "and then he jumped out the window" and "ran until the police caught him" LOL. It didn't translate the entire conversation so I didn't get the full story but it was some hot gossip for sure
Ratiocinor@reddit
You sitting in the back thinking you're getting some kinda hot gossip when they're actually just talking about the TV show they just watched
blueroses8000@reddit
That’s actually hilarious.
Limp_Introduction_22@reddit
Is the constant talking on the phone the reason they are all such diabolical drivers?
cartera92@reddit
I have experienced this in so many places! London, Amsterdam, Miami, Orlando, San Francisco. Always talking on a WhatsApp call in low tones, in addition to talking to me. I always wonder the same thing and try to remember the last time I made a phone call was😂
dunzdeck@reddit
To be honest I ask myself this question about a lot of people - "what are they talking about that takes so much time?" - I usually run out of topics after 30 minutes at best, unless it's some very good friend I'm talking to
Nobody4993@reddit
The obligatory ‘sorry?’ That leaves my mouth every time I’ve mistakenly thought they were talking to me and I misheard is so embarrassing 😂
I’d imagine maybe it’s time difference to other countries? A lot of other cultures communicate in different ways and may spend more time in contact with family/ friends than others. Add that to time difference and I do my best to not interrupt 🥲
mastfest@reddit
I love the idea of a taxi driver doing a radio show whilst driving the taxi
account_not_valid@reddit
When Alan Partridge falls on hard times, trying to juggle two jobs at once.
gogul1980@reddit
genuinely great idea for a new series. Him trying to host a show while having to deal with passengers. He can even interview them. Someone call Steve Coogan, we got a pitch!!
emimagique@reddit
I've listened to your ideas, and I haven't liked a single one of them
johnbobk@reddit
Well there's a Reddit Alan Partridge group, - of course there is! r/AlanPartridge
colei_canis@reddit
And now for the traffic which I can tell you right now is absolutely dreadful, there’s this clueless prat holding up everything to the point I’m bringing you the hits not from the studio but from deep within the slow-moving traffic itself. If you’re in a Honda Jazz with the number plate XYZ, please for the love of god take an eye test! You’re not safe to drive, but fortunately I have just the solution for you which will solve all of our problems.
Living-Ad-6751@reddit
I can't drive due to disabilities, so I use taxis and ubers quite a lot.
My absolute favourite driver is a Mexican guy called Gabriel. On several hospital trips he's waved my fare, and he even stayed on shift late to pick me up after saying goodbye to my grandma.
He listens to metal music at full volume (or silly kids songs when my daughter is riding with me.)
About 50% of the time, he'll ask if its alright to call his adult kids back in Mexico. He's told me in the past that he sends most of his wages to them. I usually just pop my headphones on and listen to my own music while he does this.
I'm guessing a lot of taxi drivers do the same when they're on shift and their families are in different timezones.
BottomleyPotts@reddit
My FIL is a taxi driver. He called me last week to say he couldn’t make it to a property he owns to help the tenants with a matter they had. He was asking if I could help. I had to go out to the property and had to call him back several times for instructions on where things were. His English is good but not great so he was speaking in Urdu. Throughout the calls I could hear passengers in the background. So that’s one answer for you.
Jazzlike-Basil1355@reddit
Asians who work in service stations. Every time I walk and they appear to be on the phone. They often don’t hang up, but just put the Phone on the counter and start talking again as I leave. I don’t think I will ever use that many words in my lifetime
Emergency_Mistake_44@reddit
Just mates, family, other drivers. I've never been a taxi driver but I've done long and short distance van drivinga as well as takeaway delivery, it just gets boring sometimes. You may ask, why don't they talk to their passengers then, we'll not every passenger wants to talk first of all and secondly that too would get boring asking someone every trip the same question.
I drive for a living now, usually behind the wheel 6 hours a day on average and among that I might call my girlfriend for an hour, sisters, couple of cousin's, mates (not all every day, it rotates) but yeah.. just for a bit of company really.
For me, there's only so much listening to other people talking (podcasts/radio) you want before listening to someone you actually know and music can get samey after several hours. Plus, from a stimulation/tiredness standpoint, talking to friends keeps you awake.
Trancer79@reddit
Same with Amazon drivers, always too busy yapping to knock on the door or ring the door bell, just dump and go..
londonbrewer77@reddit
As well as person to person calls a lot of the uber etc drivers around London are on big group calls all the time. They might not say anything for ages but I think it’s just nice to be part of a big conversation.
DustInTheMachine@reddit
I always wonder what people have to talk about on the phone.
I've become pretty much a recluse after several close friendships ended badly and I'm the common factor in these events so I must be the problem, therefore I won't bother trying to form meaningful friendships anymore. Luckily I have a busy household of 7 to look after along with my husband, and a large extended family so social events are commonplace.
I just don't have anything to tell anyone that would require a weekly phone call let alone a daily one . I'm clearly very boring.
My mum phones her best friend every Sunday at 9pm and they're on the phone for 2 hours. What do they talk about!!?
blueroses8000@reddit
Those people are usually talking to their own family who they had to leave behind.
gogul1980@reddit
I can't wait to get off the phone. Just hate holding it and wish I didn't have to.
ShrimpStuffAdmin@reddit
I've had quite a few of them say "this is my cousin calling, do you.mind if I answer?"
Maybe that is some kind of lost in translation thing, and its their friend or something. But they're always on the phone and sometimes they're not even talking and you can hear kids screaming
blueroses8000@reddit
Lol that’s probably just their way of being present for their children back home.
And South Asians are very close to cousins so they definitely do mean cousin.
Even the British born Indians you know here in the UK we’re very close to our cousins. Recently a few of us were talking and despite all having our own separate lives and close friends we’ve made over the years and still have, we admitted we’re each others best friends as there’s nothing like it. I would call my cousins for anything I needed any time of day or night and they would be there for me.
Strong_Muffin3941@reddit
There's a nature reserve near me that I monitor and report owl numbers to the BTO for. It's also mildly popular with gentlemen seeking the company of other gentlemen between the trees. This is normally no problem whatsoever to me, however, there's one of them speaking clear Urdu into his distorted, full volume android at about 90db for hours on end. "I am dogging again but still no takers, it is a total mystery to me why nobody wants to come near me." etc.
boogs_23@reddit
Ok, so others have noticed this. I live in Canada, but every non white person I see out and about is perpetually on the phone. Every delivery driver, everyone on the bus, every grocery shopper. Who are they talking to? Why would you even want that? I can't even remember the last time I had a phone conversation that wasn't an appointment.
Complifusedx@reddit
They all do the same in shops. I can’t believe that every single hour of the day there is anything of substance being talked about lmao
glitterstateofmind@reddit
I don’t see this limited to taxi drivers. I see it in supermarkets, on the bus, basically anywhere in public - long, protected conversations, typically on loudspeaker. I’ve always wondered who they are talking to and why it can’t be something that can just wait til they’re home.
Silver_Wind_1@reddit
It's really uncomfortable being around people constantly speaking and you can't understand them
Felineincognito15@reddit
I used a firm of taxis that the drivers actually talk to you. I've had interesting discussions about our respective religions, cats and world music.
Mr_Rash_Man@reddit
They are calling friends family back home
hhfugrr3@reddit
My postman is like this. Every time he comes to the door he's chatting away to a woman on the phone. My gf calls me a lot, but I can't imagine what the have to say to each other that whole time.
SMYLTY@reddit
I work with someone who does this, her phone is constantly on and she's talking to her friend who works in another area. It just feels awkward when you talk to her as she's not on mute and the other person will sometimes try and join in the conversation.
blindingmate@reddit
I get a coach to work (Kent to central London) most days and the driver (white, English) spends the whole time on every journey chatting on his phone to someone, presumably his spouse. 99% of his chat is commentary on his journey
"Blackwall is proper backed up this morning"
"Sailed down the A21 earlier but it's murder tonight"
I guess they're either madly in love and can't not be in contact or he's super controlling and likes to keep tabs on them
yorkspirate@reddit
Maybe she's the controlling one and wants to be constantly in the know of what he's doing and where he is
Rich-Reason1146@reddit
Maybe he's insecure and feels that if he doesn't keep her enthralled with anecdotes of the A21 and it's varying levels of traffic build-up her affections might wonder?
yorkspirate@reddit
Maybe we're all wrong and they are perfectly secure with their A21 traffic kink
CopySmart690@reddit
Getting an update and gossiping about the entire village does take a while.
Inner-Buy6789@reddit
Family back home mostly. When you're working 12 hour shifts the only real window to catch up with people in a different time zone is while you're driving, it's just practical.
phocuser@reddit
Just open Google translate on your phone and listen in.
Any-Pattern8246@reddit
Last time I was in a car the driver was like "do you mind if I make a call" my response? "does DVLA highway code allow you to talk on the phone whilst driving?" and he was like "no. oh". One driver who just talked on the phone whilst I was in it, nearly crashed and I chipped in with "see thats why you shouldn't be talking on the phone whilst driving"
Honey-Badger@reddit
Mate I currently live in Canada and its the same here, just on speakerphone seemingly all day whilst they drive Uber
Bifanarama@reddit
I always assume they're talking to the guy behind the counter in the corner shop.
Routine_Ad1823@reddit
It's the same on trains. I've had people be on the phone for like 3 hours.
Is it just like a comfort blanket thing? Neither is really listening to the other.
ParticularWallaby173@reddit
They are talking to the guy in the petrol station. Pretty sure I hear the other side of the conversation every time I go in there.
belody@reddit
The Indian people I've worked with always seem to be on a video or voice call whenever they are on a breka or anything. I find it so weird as someone who hates ever having to be on a phone call with anyone ever
Weak-Property4908@reddit
Family most likely, driving all day and making small talk with randomers must get old very fast.
No complaints from me, i don't need small talk after a long day at work either.
psychobabble666@reddit
Talk talk customers
headphones1@reddit
I once got a taxi from Birmingham to Chesterfield, which is about a 2 hour drive. I swear the taxi driver got 40-50 phone calls from friends/family, it was unreal. The calls were all in English, so I know that he wasn't taking work calls.
lewisfairchild@reddit
I know it’s really curious! So interesting!
WashingTurds@reddit
Foreign concept - it’s because they enjoy talking to their families.
jcollywobble@reddit
On one hand I think it’s pretty rude, but on the other hand if I’m in a mood when I can’t be arsed speaking to the driver then I’m all for it.
I often find that the taxi drivers always speak to you when you don’t want them to, like when your flight home from holiday arrives at 2am and the driver suddenly wants to speak about everything.
Seamonkeypo@reddit
My particular family was pretty abusive, so I keep them distant, but in theory it could be nice to be so close.
Johnlenham@reddit
I work with a guy from Ghana and I swear to god he's on the phone FULLY every break and lunchtime.
It's so wild to me, perhaps because I just message but jeez
ApplicationUpper9229@reddit
They have family visiting and it’s making their spouse crazy
Historical_Site508@reddit
Also the bloody uber eats etc deliver drivers doing FaceTime and chatting while collecting orders and dropping off food. You are working! Get off your phone.
Tall_Opportunity_521@reddit
Its not just taxi drivers. super market security is the same, as are the dudes delivering food. Always on phone, always fast chatting a load of shit.
SnooSquirrels6910@reddit
That's probably why they are talking so loud because it's a bad line, presumably.
PsychologicalDish430@reddit
I always find this. I think it's rude and never tip.
Infinite_Spring_3564@reddit
I don’t like it all, I wish they’d shut up. But don’t talk to me either. Just sit and do your driving job in silence like you’re supposed to please.
ambiguousboner@reddit
Their families
South Asian families are incredibly close, one of my best mates is from a Pakistani family and his mum is constantly calling him lol
l8yters@reddit
Its a group chat with other drivers. Source: was a taxi office manage for decade.
Semichh@reddit
I have noticed this from foreign-speaking delivery drivers as well. They knock on the door while they’re on a phone call and just carry on while you’re standing in the door.
Same as OP, I have no issue with it at all but I just find it curious haha
Empty_Change7506@reddit
Talking to eachother about the best place to groom underage kids
standbyalarm@reddit
I asked a driver once and he told me it was a group chat with several other taxi drivers, so it was less monotonous all day, just so they had chat like others may in an office/shop etc. Which explains why it may be literally for hours.
Interesting-Voice328@reddit
They normally ask if I’m ok with them continuing the call when I get in, normally their wife, sister,brother, friend
Do you tell them who you are talking to if you’re on the phone?
lithaborn@reddit
I've had drivers take calls from their wives, one guy was talking to his dad in Pakistan, I've seen their taxi company boss flash up on the console...
I always just assume it's a call they can't ignore. We all get them and it's never at a good time.
I was trying a new smart watch out once and got a call from my doctor that came up thru the watch's speaker. My phone was buried in my handbag and I couldn't not pick up. I was on a packed, standing only train and there's the receptionist talking about my blood test results on speaker while I'm there looking like inspector gadget talking to my wrist.
G12356789s@reddit
You can just ring the doctor back you know
lithaborn@reddit
I panicked lol
FreyjaMardoll@reddit
So relatable
supremethinking@reddit
My dad's not a taxi driver, but whenever he's home, he's on the phone with all his friends and family all weekend. He has a lot of friends back home including people he met when he was 15. So yeah
Over-Language2599@reddit
I have friends I've known since I was a teenager. I even sent one of them a text a few years ago.
starsandbribes@reddit
Its funny in a generation that men talking on the phone is seen as masculine. Growing up it was always “oh only teenage girls talk on the phone to each other gossiping about rubbish” so a boy doing it would get called that. Calling a male friend just to talk would be seen as odd to millennials.
OneDay_OneLife@reddit
Most likely a family member or a group call with other drivers.
A driver once apologised to me at the end of the ride for being on a call; it was his brother who lived in another country.
Over-Language2599@reddit
Yes but when I see my brother every few years or so it's like "Arigh'?" "Yeah".
Imaginary-Disk1149@reddit
Yeah, I've had cabbies notice their phone is ringing and ask me if it's okay to take the call
Tay74@reddit
I mean, not just taxi drivers, I find a significant proportion of the non-white, immigrant population where I live are almost always on their phone, whether they are serving me at a family owned shop, driving a taxi, delivering something, just on the bus etc.
Combination of family culture being a lot stronger than it is among most native British people (not saying there aren't British people who don't spend hours a day talking to their family on the phone, but I know more people who can eaisly go a month without calling home), and many of them living abroad from said family. Rarely bothers me tbh unless I need to ask the person serving me at the shop something, then I always feel rude for interrupting but also, what do you really expect 😅
Belsnickel7777@reddit
When I started homeworking for the first time when COVID came along, a couple of us would just be on a Teams call all day while working. I'm assuming it won't be anything more than that for these drivers, there would be periods of silence when we had to concentrate, but otherwise we'd just yap on about all sorts of random stuff going on in life
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
God forbid people want to talk to their family back home while working all day. Imagine if the roles were reversed and suddenly people were mocking you for speaking to your own parents abroad. Also you’re literally an adult with a functioning mouth and brain… if you’re that curious why not just ask them instead?
TotallyFineWithIt@reddit (OP)
Because that would be rude. I see you're the typical Reddit user, with no idea how the outside world is.
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
Yeah, unlike the average Reddit hermit, I actually don’t mind talking to service workers like normal human beings. If I’m curious about something, why wouldn’t I just ask politely?
TotallyFineWithIt@reddit (OP)
Because the geezer's on the phone, talking to somebody else.
theoneandonlyvesper@reddit
You know conversations aren’t some sacred ritual, right? Most people can pause a phone call for five seconds to answer a harmless question
FreshPrinceOfH@reddit
Who is anyone talking to on the phone? I hate phone calls. I usually just don’t answer.
SeaExcitement4288@reddit
What would they do to pass time, I know I’d rather be chatting to someone on the phone then drive in awkward silence
TotallyFineWithIt@reddit (OP)
I'd rather be listening to music, or an audiobook.
__JAMS__@reddit
I use taxis everyday at work and this happens regularly. Some will just be on permanent conference calls with family members and there will be long periods with nobody speaking, everyone just going about their business,. making dinner etc with the accompanying background noises of children playing and so on.
Necessary_Money_9757@reddit
I've heard that apparently it's quite common in some other cultures to just spend all day on the phone to someone while you both do your own thing. I don't know if they necessarily speak to the same person the whole time, but if you knew 10 people and they were all up for it I reckon you could speak to them for 2 hours each person day.
It's something I sort of experienced during COVID lockdown. I'd sit in a discord call with my friends for a decent chunk of the day, and we'd come and go while attending online lessons, play some video games, cook lunch etc.
Dear-Advertising-232@reddit
My husband is not a taxi driver but he is from abroad and is on the phone ALL DAY LONG talking to everyone except me. He talks to friends, his mum, his brother, his cousin etc.
untitled__1@reddit
Maybe you should call him!
algypan@reddit
😂
AdonisCarbonado@reddit
Very weird. Generally on WhatsApp to ‘back home’ & or running their real multi million pound business whilst making some pocket money.. Probably
afroafroafroafro@reddit
Honestly I think some people are just built different socially. I can barely survive a 5 minute phone call and these guys are out here doing full shifts with a bluetooth in the ear the entire time.
BilboDankins@reddit
I guess it's not that different to when people game with friends for hours. When I was younger and played more video games, we would be on call with each other for hours, often we'd be playing completely different games, but just had the call for jokes and chat. I imagine something like that would make time uber driving pass quickly.
TotallyFineWithIt@reddit (OP)
That's it. Just talking, for hours a day, presumably without running out of things to say. 'Yep, still driving around. Looks like it might rain later'.
TotallyFineWithIt@reddit (OP)
Yet you proceed to think about it and provide a reply.
AdonisCarbonado@reddit
I don’t think you know what weird means. It’s not ridiculous, it’s not something to not be considered. It may hold negative connotations but I didn’t take it that way. I guess it was more of a strange observation being as everyone I know is always on their phone… Someone doing hours and hours of solitary work & you wonder why they want to have company?
tomatobasilgarlic@reddit
Funny observation. Same in my local overpriced corner shop. Just a cultural difference to multi task and opportunity to speak your first language i suppose
alarming_wrong@reddit
probably chatting to their family and friends back home.
yearsofpractice@reddit
If my life experience regards calls received when I’m trying to work is anything to go by, it will be their wife asking him when he will be home, can he pick something up for the shops, what colour shall we paint the kitchen, can we afford to go on a summer holiday, have you remembered what we’re doing tonight, have you got the time off to visit my parents this weekend, what time will you be finished, what time will you be home etc etc etc
Designer-Computer188@reddit
It's a boredom easer, I used to do it on long walks to work when I had to live a fair walk away and could not afford transport
Familiar9709@reddit
They seem to take to their family. Really I don't know how they cope talking so much and why their partners can be so much on there phone too.
MonsieurGump@reddit
James O’Brian.
TheNotSpecialOne@reddit
Family and friends locally and abroad
drakon99@reddit
Driving is boring, got to do something to keep things interesting.
I’ve had black cab drivers who were reading the newspaper while also negotiating central London traffic.
Then-Fortune-3122@reddit
Friends and family. Talking about life, same as office chat.
Not-That_Girl@reddit
That or radio on bloody football chat. hate those rides
Moppo_@reddit
I'd rather sit in silence than listen to radio hosts.
Internal_Lion_1836@reddit
i hope theyre aren’t talking about me
FeDUpGraduate87@reddit
I'm a lorry driver and I used to be on the phone for hours every night, often a 12-15 hour shift just chatting to mates all night. Talking about anything and everything!
R1ceKai@reddit
Just general chit chats to pass the time. It could be a friends, group WhatsApp call or Discord VC. Those shop cashiers who have an eight-hour shift, makes the time go much faster.
I've also seen that in some cultures, they prefer to speak rather than text.
Sadie_UK@reddit
What the hell man what a weird take
ZenDoesReps@reddit
Nah, actually a valid experience. Every time I’ve gotten into a taxi with a non-English driver they’re on the phone to someone (I’m also non-English so find this curious).
DivineDecadence85@reddit
It does track to be fair. Not every time but frequently enough to be noteworthy. I mostly only notice because I couldn't be arsed chatting to people that much 😂.
stpizz@reddit
Family back home makes the most sense to me. I have a partner that lives overseas a lot, and we will take advantage of weird times to be on handsfree (walking around town doing shopping, etc) because those are the times when both of us are awake/not at work, but we have shit to do.
I could imagine doing that with various family members while driving a taxi or something if I had family overseas
_justtheonce_@reddit
How is it a 'weird take'?
donkey_OT@reddit
"You want to see this guy I just picked up! Never met such a bell end before. Who do you have in your cab? Aw man, we should swap passengers!"
jlelvidge@reddit
Same as Just Eat, they walk past in a morning to pick up from McDonalds and are always talking on their phone
JustQuestioningCosas@reddit
Each other?
baciahai@reddit
Family back home
evenstevens280@reddit
Same with corner shop owners. They seem to be always on the phone.
Maybe they get bored sitting on their tod all day
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