The smart crosstown is a rugged, off-road-styled hybrid concept city car unveiled by smart at the 2005 Frankfurt Motor Show (IAA).
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Built as a design exercise to showcase future possibilities for the smart fortwo platform, it combined the brand's ultra-compact urban footprint with bold, Jeep-like styling cues.
It measured just 2.68 metres long. This made it only slightly longer than the production fortwo of its era.
It featured short overhangs, a bold stance, and a unique stowaway windscreen that could be completely folded down down for an open-air driving experience.
It was equipped with an electronically controlled convertible soft top.
The vehicle was powered by a 0.7-litre (700 cc) turbocharged 3-cylinder gasoline engine paired with an electric motor.
According to smart, the hybrid setup provided 15% better fuel economy and 10% better acceleration compared to standard gasoline models of the time.
The cabin included a "linear" instrument panel decorated with graffiti. It featured unconventional materials like used-look leather, skate wheels, and pedals designed to look like mountain bike pedals.
Tailored for a tech-savvy urban audience, it included integrated connections for MP3 players, PDAs, and USB sticks.
While it generated significant interest for its "urban jungle" theme, the smart crosstown remained strictly a show car and never entered commercial production.
MRDR1NL@reddit
i feel like they could release this as an ev today and it would sell tons if it's not too expensive.
Tranceported@reddit
Hybrid is good. You won’t get stuck and it’s the right way to balance emissions and also anxiety.
SjalabaisWoWS@reddit
Let me take a wild guess...you're American? :P
Neosantana@reddit
They don't have to be. Most places on the planet don't have the infrastructure to support EVs, so Hybrid is a much better option.
SjalabaisWoWS@reddit
The funny thing about EVs is that they only need a power outlet to be charged. Most places on the planet that are...
...are moving towards EVs. The notable exceptions are the US and, especially, Japan, with a mere 2% BEV sales in 2025. From China to Thailand, Ethiopia and Norway, BEV adoption is starting to become the norm, not the exception.
And, from a manufacturing standpoint, we already see that small series production like suggested in this case, is much easier with simpler, more flexible EV tech.
Neosantana@reddit
Most places in the world don't have street-level power outlets to charge your car. So unless you plan on dangling an extension cord from your office on the third floor to your car, you're shit out of luck.
We aren't in urban sprawl"Beavervilles. We're in old cities and we live in apartments and park on the street. The apartment building I'm living in was built in the 1950s.
Good for them. These places, on a global scale, are not the norm. They're outliers.
Again, for those who have the infrastructure, good for them. EVs still aren't a valid option for most of the planet, so hybrids are the next best thing. You don't have to give me the sales pitch on a product that I can neither afford nor use reliably.
SjalabaisWoWS@reddit
No sales pitch, I figured we had a civilised discussion. Cheers!
delimeat52@reddit
You're not signaling "civilised discussion" when you start your discourse with "Let me take a wild guess... you're probably an American :P". Discrimination based on nationality and likening it to, what I assume from the implied tone, a lack of intelligence is a rocky start, at best. Even if you think you're just being funny with a smiley it doesn't come across as inviting for an honest discussion where both sides' opinions are valued. Any snark you get in response is just matching your tone and well deserved. Don't try to call someone out when you dished first.
While you might not have a sales pitch beyond pointing out that "everyone" developed beyond Japan and the US are doing it, that in and of itself is the bandwagon fallacy. If "everyone" is doing it, why aren't you, right? Silly Americans, amirite? You know, just the third largest market for light EVs worldwide. It's the adoption rate that you're concerned about, though, isn't it? Just not doing it fast enough for you?
There are reasonable technology, infrastructure, and policy reasons that make it a more sensible financial choice for many Americans to stay with a gasoline vehicle. That and range constraints. And time That's still a major thing for a lot of Americans. Oh, yeah. And time investment. Crazy that it comes down to time, money, and convenience.
Also, the "they only need a power outlet to be charged" argument is one of the biggest reasons EVs are not adopted. Most people don't park next to an outlet they can charge their car with. Huge constraint. And for the ones that do have a convenient outlet, they're often limited to level 1 charging. For most that's about 3 miles of range (5km) per hour of charge on a 110v outlet. That's 7-8 hours of charging for the average American to get to and from work with no extra activities. Toss in the grocery store and you need an extra hour. Picking up the kids from sports practice? Another 2 hours. Do everything you need in a day and you're slowly losing range even with home charging.
For those that don't have that convenient outlet, that then means sitting in a parking lot away from home waiting an hour for a charger and then another hour to charge, just so you have the privilege to drive your car to work tomorrow and maybe run an errand. This is where policy needs to catch up to improve adoption rate. There is nothing forcing landlords to facilitate level 2 charging. That's 35% of Americans. And every apartment building, which would be the target market of the car that started this thread. For the other 65%, a lot of them are limited by very aged wiring in their homes and the renovations are super costly.
Look, bro. Get off your high, electric horse. Quit it with the better than you snark. Americans can and will make the switch to EVs when time is right. When infrastructure, technology, and policy catch up. Are there some very, very, very loud Americans that roll coal and decry the death of petrochemicals to create fear? Yup. You got it. There is a minority that does that to drive fear. Is policy a people thing? Sure is, but the average person has no daily effect on it. Sure, they can vote every four years, but that's about it. Washington is far, far away. For most people a car a mode of transportation and whatever is the most practical will win out. Someday that will almost certainly be EVs. That's not today.
Maybe help those that do want change advocate instead of looking down on people. That'd be cool.
SjalabaisWoWS@reddit
The American-line was a friendly, teasing tone, whoever gets hurt by that has already a difficult starting point.
Relax.
Drive whatever car you want. It's just that the world is waking up to convenience, low running cost and, more often than not, more power and more spacious interiors in EVs. If you don't want that, not a problem at all. Nobody is looking down on anyone here.
delimeat52@reddit
I'll start out with this: I'll be happy driving the 2018 Model 3 RWD in the garage. I have a few cars and one is an EV. I'm not arguing "gas vs EV" here as much as the practicality of EVs in America, which was the point of discussion you signaled with your teasing.
You completely missed the point I started my last reply with. It wasn't the teasing line about Americans (however you meant it) in and of itself, but your attempt to then change tone when challenged with actual points of discussion about your selected topic. You asserted incivility on the part u/Neosanatana for bringing relevant points of discussion related to the topic you chose to bring up: EVs in America. It's essentially trolling.
You're also failing to engage in the points of discussion u/Neosantana and I have brought up about infrastructure and practicality, instead relying on bandwagoning, red herrings, and tone policing. Let me give you examples.
Bandwagoning: "Most places on the planet... are moving towards EVs" and "The world is waking up...". You're essentially using the argument "Everyone else is doing it, why aren't you?" and then providing little to no support. To which we both replied with practical reasons that you avoided, which leads me to...
Red Herrings: u/Neosantana and I both brought up infrastructure. You replied with how much power EVs have and that the cabin room is comfortable. Complete distractions from the actual points of discussion about EVs in America. It's the exact sales pitch you were claiming not to make. Comfort and power are not relevant to why Americans are not adopting EVs at the rate of other countries. You also avoided actual discourse by...
Tone policing: This is the "civilised discussion " line and you telling me to "relax". You're avoiding discussion by claiming improper tone on the part of the responder when it met you where you entered the conversation. It's also a distraction from adressing the points of discussion.
MRDR1NL@reddit
Nah. Such a small car is only used for city driving where range doesn't matter. The off roadness is just for the ecstatic
radiorental1@reddit
ecstatic aesthetic
Cuntonesian@reddit
Hybrid is 2005 too.
delimeat52@reddit
Should be viewed as obsolete? According to what metric? Inbound well-intentioned rant, but, before jumping: I have an EV (amongst other cars; I have a problem) and have installed a level 2 charger at home. An older Model 3 RWD. I'm not against them at all.
It's just that infrastructure has not caught up to EVs yet and won't until governmentally mandated. And that's going to take a much bigger push from people than the money keeping the oil flowing. My point is that, in most dense cities, the people that would be interested in a micro car like this do not live in a place that accommodates EV charging. You're then asking them to pay with their time to go sit in a parking lot somewhere to charge. People often vote with their time before their money - it's the only truly finite commodity in life.
EVs won't make sense for the masses until one of a couple things happens. Either charging needs to be at home or charging speed needs to match or outpace refueling a gas or hybrid car. The first simply isn't going to happen in corporate or landlord-owned properties unless there's a price for not doing it. Government is largely not ready to mandate that in a lot of places. The Chinese are really close on the ultra fast charging, with cars that charge in minutes, but I wouldn't expect them and their accompanying infrastructure to market with enough penetration for another maybe 5-10 years, if they maintain a safe track record. And that's in the places that don't outright say no to Chinese EVs like the US.
Then there's the problem with batteries themselves. Yes, the chemistry has been cleaned up quite a bit so that detractors cannot just say the mining alone causes more emissions than an equivalent gasoline car. Usually. But it's still not great. And there's not a good solution yet for what happens with EVs (out of warranty) with failed batteries. They're basically worthless because the cost of a new pack in many cases exceeds the value of the vehicle. They will go to the junkyard faster than gas cars until batteries can survive more recharges and time. They turn tens of thousands of dollars of investment into a financial liability overnight when the electrons no longer choose to flow. Many consumers cannot afford that risk. Gasoline cars are typically cheaper to fix right now and a safer investment. Battery chemistry is getting better all the time, but the generational change that would actually make EVs a no brainer for all hasn't happened yet. Here's hoping for something big like zinc-air working out.
Finally, there's also issues with crashed EVs. Sure, both gasoline and battery fires are scary. And fire departments now have training in putting out EV fires. But what happens with the cars afterwards? In a gas car you drain the tank and you're done. Take the gas to a local recycling center that handles auto fluids. EVs take careful dismantling. You have to be even more careful if the pack is compromised. Transporting a compromised pack for recycling? HAZMAT level: extreme. Yes, packs have come a long way, separating themselves into isolated lower voltage cells when a pyro fuse blows, and that's a good start for safety. But even if the pack is not compromised, what do you do with it? You can't just shelve it indefinitely until someone needs the pack because if even an individual cell goes too low that can make it cost-prohibitive to fix and reuse. And most people are going to want a new pack anyways. Use it for home energy storage for solar? Would be cool if the auto makers supported that, but every battery has a different BMS that some internet electro-nerd needs to figure out first because the auto companies sure aren't helping. And if you're installing an auto battery as home storage, does it meet code? Sure, you can park the car in your garage and that's ok, but in a fixed installation it's a fire hazard according to some. Somehow the safety jury is still out on this one.
We're at the cusp of change, but unless "should" in your comment meant "for moral purposes alone" then I don't see it. Practicality has to catch up. Celebrate your hybrid brothers and sisters for the electric miles they do drive. When they can practically make the switch they will.
Cuntonesian@reddit
There are chargers every few 10 kilometres on the highways here, sometimes as much as 20 per spot. Really not an issue anymore, and hasn’t been for almost a decade.
Economy-Figure-2271@reddit
wait how did sart make it rugged tho
mtnman336699@reddit
lol it’s a happy adorable 😍 lil’guy!!!
Xinonix1@reddit
Off road with a ground clearance of 9 centimeters
tetzy@reddit
I think Smart deserved its failure. Why not design them to be practical, instead of simply 'small'? -- Put a usable trunk on them and perhaps more people would have seen them as something more than a toy.
Din_Plug@reddit
Something miata sized with a shooting break body style ?
ScottaHemi@reddit
remove the hybrid, make it a mini pickup. sell it for 20k and rural america would have LOVED IT.
a street legal UTV!
bemenaker@reddit
Why remove the hybrid. Hybrids sell well.
ScottaHemi@reddit
keep the price low. you're up against 14'000 dollar Rangers and Gators and stuff.
Ajinho@reddit
Makes sense I guess
FrenchFryCattaneo@reddit
It makes sense when you understand that people who only drive in the suburbs want a car that looks like it can go off-road.
JonseySpeed@reddit
Is it just me or does the front end look a bit like a puffer fish?
SjalabaisWoWS@reddit
Love the schematics. Differently coloured boxes. Everything explained well...enough.
Mackey_Corp@reddit
This reminds me of a car I made in GTA V. I got a little smart car and dumped a bunch of money into it, the best engine and all the upgrades I could get, plus armor and all that shit. It was fun to drive and dam near indestructible. Great for ramps and stunt jumps and what not lol.
signmeupnot@reddit
The most early 2000s car I've ever seen.
Dorwyn@reddit
I would love this in literally any other colour.
Venkie2Maybach@reddit (OP)
There's a grey colour version of it:
https://www.mad4wheels.com/smart/crosstown-hybrid-show-car-2006
Dorwyn@reddit
Oh, much better. I would still prefer a royal blue or bright red, but this is a definite improvement.
mrtn17@reddit
I really like these micro cars. The only reason I dont buy one of those electric ones is the limited range and speed. I want to keep up with traffic and visit family who lives 140 km away
QuokkaOfDeath@reddit
This is funny, cute and absolutely useless. Cool concept
tomato432@reddit
people waited for a somewhat larger smart crossover for years
lbsdcu@reddit
Not sufficiently gnarly for r/battlecars
It's more of a skirmishcart or clashbuggy
beo19@reddit
the red star on the side looks so cool
fothergillfuckup@reddit
Looks like the used a ruler for the Smart car mk2?
HistoricalHell@reddit
If you make the clear plastic already yellow then you hide the yellowing effect of the sun overtime.
Weird-one0926@reddit
Could be fun!
CreebleCrooble@reddit
Interesting, this is the first time I heard of this concept.
It appears they did take some of the design inspiration for the 453 Model from this off road concept, as the 453 is more "boxy" than the previous models, such as the 450 and 451.
Model 453:
Sir_Billiam_Corgan@reddit
This thing is basically Fruitiger Aero on wheels. I don't hate it, honestly.
Pipija_Banana@reddit
Can I have it with a CDI engine?