Lore / Lore episodes scared me as a kid, still kinda do at 38! Am I the only one?

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This-Breadfruit-1958@reddit

Often Wrong’s got a broken heart, can’t even tell his boys apart

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IanKelsonMD@reddit

The Lal episode destroys me now, as a father.

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handlerofdrones@reddit (OP)

Just made a post about the other day. The bit about his hands moving faster than the admiral can see.

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Good trek will do that. As your lens changes over age the episodes hit different. Why people are still rewatching it 60 years later. DS9 and TNG are the best. To beat a dead horse most Nutrek besides a few SNW episodes don't have this and are totally forgettable garbage.

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davwad2@reddit

I rewatched TNG for it's 30th anniversary and there were some episodes where I definitely missed the innuendo. The scene that stood out the most to me is the turbo lift scene in The Host.

Dr. Crusher, Odan (a trill), and Data are in a turbo lift. Crusher and Odan are talking about their relationship and it goes right over Data's head. Seeing it as adult made me realize how child-like Data was in that moment. I laughed so hard because I missed the same thing Data did when I watched it as child all those years ago.

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the_toast_exemption@reddit

I 100% could not ever rewatch that episode now that I'm a parent.

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Spaceghost_84@reddit

My kid is autistic and i think of that episode frequently. They have a lot of little moments that remind me of Lal. They feel so much so deeply it makes me wonder how the rest of us can have such little empathy by comparison.

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45runs@reddit

Yep that episode kills me. Brent Spiner is incredible in that episode.

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LovesDeanWinchester@reddit

I despised Lore. To me, he was played by Brett's twin...not Brett himself!!!

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spacetr0n@reddit

Spiner is in a league all of his own.

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twolfhawk@reddit

As a kid watching Brent Spiner as Data is loveable and always felt corect. Seeing the same face be a villain..it was creepy af

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Darkling183@reddit

I agree. That's the most unsettling thing about it, in my opinion. My brain is so hard-wired to trust Data's face and find him a reassuring presence that when Brent is playing Lore, it's too much cognitive dissonance.

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twolfhawk@reddit

Just watch Brent on night court....

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Darkling183@reddit

Oh, it's fine when he's not in the white makeup. I don't see him as Data then.

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calculon68@reddit

Lore annoys more than scares me. Too much maniacal mustache-twirling evil, almost like a mirror-universe counterpart.

Lore would've been scarier if he simply lacked empathy/awareness and killed indiscriminately, and just didn't understand.

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HoundTakesABitch@reddit

I just hate how when he takes Data’s place, it’s super obvious that it isn’t Data and no one notices but Wesley.

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actually3racoons@reddit

It cracks me up all the times everyone brushes wes off, then due to everyone being written into obliviousness the teenage boy saves every soul aboard the enterprise.

He has incontrovertibly saved the ship a few times, it's upsetting he's got no decorations by s3

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UESPA_Sputnik@reddit

And once the Crushers finally figure it out, they don't even bother to tell anyone and get themselves into danger by facing Lore alone.

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Spaceghost_84@reddit

Look I’m always down with beverly showing that shes just as good with a phaser as she is with a laser scalpel. That woman can do no wrong. The rest of the universe is wrong.

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UESPA_Sputnik@reddit

I mean, the universe is just a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter anyway.

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MindlessVariety8311@reddit

I hate that episode! I much prefer the one where she has sex with a space ghost.

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der0hrwurm@reddit

Shut up, Wesley

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_fly-on-the-wall_@reddit

it is so ridiculous!!!

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abornemath@reddit

Dr. Soong: “where’s Data!?”
Lore in mocking tone: “𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦‘𝘴 𝘋𝘢𝘵𝘢.“

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JoeCensored@reddit

Spiner is such a good actor, playing characters so fundamentally similar but so different. You can tell which he is just by his facial expressions.

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Either_Umpire9411@reddit

The sins of the prophet were valiant and bold, and quite unaccustomed to fear. But of all the most reckless or so high am toldddd, was Abdul Abulbul Ameer. I always loved that little ditty. But I could never get the cadence quite right. thank you father

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Haruspex_Rex@reddit

I always hated those episodes. Seemed ridiculous to me, as far as plotting.

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DragonflyGlade@reddit

Why would Soong, after building an android who turned out to be evil, then build a good one, but with the exact same face and body—visually indistinguishable from the original evil one who scared the colonists? Especially if you kept the evil android’s pieces lying around to be reassembled by whoever happened along? Not planning ahead on even the most basic level, eh? Soong may have been a brilliant cyberneticist, but in terms of common sense…

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Haruspex_Rex@reddit

And why wouldn’t Star Fleet completely dismantle and destroy the evil robot once it found out about it? Or imprison it forever? To that, considering the number of times Data was taken over by aliens or Lore, why is he still in service? That’s a problem for the humanoid members of Star Fleet, too.

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WillingArm2463@reddit

Good News: It's a Data Episode.

Bad News: It's a Lore Episode too.

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toastedclown@reddit

I agree and feel the same way. I also think that having Brent play every male Soong is hilarious and brilliant. They are all the same and all different.

Data is clearly lawful good, and everyone else is Chaotic--something. Evil (Adam, Arik, Lore), Neutral (Noonien), or Good (Altan).

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Fabulous-Sea-1590@reddit

I missed Brothers when it first aired and I'd been so excited to see it.

I remember my friend recounting the plot to me on the playground. I asked who played Data's dad and he said he thought it was Billy Crystal.

I guess because Soong kinda looks like Miracle Max? All the things in life I've forgotten and that random moment has stuck with me for over 30 years.

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toastedclown@reddit

Noonien is heavily made up to look old but the big tell is that Lore inherited his speech patterns and mannerisms.

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CrazyAlfalfa4298@reddit

What episode is he in Picard s3

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toastedclown@reddit

Episode 8: "Surrender"

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ilDuceVita@reddit

Lore has always reminded me of my older brother.

I am not less perfect than Lore. Despite how much he's tried to convince me I am.

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NarmHull@reddit

Whenever Brent Spiner smiles it kind of freaks me out.

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manlybrian@reddit

The only Data specific thing that scared me as a kid was when he would open up his fingernail.

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Fabulous-Sea-1590@reddit

Arg. I felt this comment.

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Moliza3891@reddit

Same. But still does as an adult.

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Absentmindedgenius@reddit

I always wanted more out of them. Lore has no character arc. He has an interesting backstory, but they just use him as a mustache twirling villain that shows up out of nowhere every once in a while to antagonize Data.

He really reminded me of KARR vs. KITT.

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multificionado@reddit

Not really. I'm around your age, and few things scare me (those that do include the banshee from Disney's Darby O'Gill and the clown from Brave Little Toaster).

For me, Lore's a scene-stealing psychopath, but I can understand where you can be creeped out by Lore.

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_byetony_@reddit

Hate them

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JugOfVoodoo@reddit

Lore deserved to be the villain of a movie. "Picard" season 3 did a good job of closing out Data & Lore's story, but I wish "Nemesis" had been about a Sela / Lore team-up.

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lyidaValkris@reddit

Spiner has good range, and Lore was proper terrifying. As an actor, I be he loved playing his own evil twin.

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kathakana@reddit

He has said in interviews that he loves playing baddies as there’s always another side. He was brilliant in the series Outcast.

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colmatrix33@reddit

The idea of an evil android in real life is terrifying.

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DCLascelle@reddit

Yes.

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Diver-1Doc@reddit

Brent Spiner could do a great “evil” face.

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handlerofdrones@reddit (OP)

Data’s voice is calming and nice
Lores voice was diabolical

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VGuyver@reddit

It's a cheery fake friendliness. It's predatory.

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handlerofdrones@reddit (OP)

Hell, even his name is unsettling.

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krampaus@reddit

the name lore definitely has a sinister ring to it

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shadowscar248@reddit

Well that's kind of the point. Data is logical and explains the world as it is in a methodical way to allay fears and allow understanding and progress. Lore is often illogical and usually instills fear and is destabilizing due to lack of clarity.

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JAS0NDUDE@reddit

With data we are introduced to a character that strives to be human. But, he does lack some of the worse traits of humans: lying, violence, corruption, etc. He is pretty much morally perfect except with outside influences.

Then... We are introduced to Lore who has no problem emulating the darker parts of humanity, WITH all the strength, speed, and efficiency of data.

Yea... He's fucking terrifying.

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