How a super El Niño could trigger global famine
Posted by chota-kaka@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 11 comments
Extreme heat and drought could damage harvests and worsen global food insecurity this summer.
Climate scientists, agricultural experts and policymakers warn that a super El Niño could tip vulnerable populations towards famine. El Niño is a climate phenomenon in the Pacific that affects weather patterns globally. Rare “super” El Niños generate exceptionally intense warming of water at the surface of the Pacific, with temperatures rising more than 2°C above historical averages. This sharply disrupts global weather, increasing the risk of extreme heat, droughts and flooding.
zazzologrendsyiyve@reddit
Here’s the sad part: most people around the world, and by most I mean at least 95%, either can’t give a shit about this or don’t give a shit about this.
So I don’t think we will be saved by “humanity working together”. Either a bunch of geniuses invent something or I’m afraid it’s going to get worse than this. And I don’t like this whole bunch-of-geniuses idea.
On the bright side, some apocalyptic religious (mentally ill) people will be really happy. So it’s not bad news for everybody!
CyberSmith31337@reddit
I think people watch way too many movies when they reference the whole magical genius collaboration scenario. Cinema portrays geniuses as fun-loving, quirky, eccentric types who are misunderstood; the reality is that geniuses are typically obsessive, ruthless, self-serving egomaniacs who are often hellbent on being right over being collaborative.
There is almost no chance that you can put 20 geniuses on a project and expect them to work together well. There would be so much infighting, so much disagreement, and so much drama. And if they do figure it out, the capitalist class would just usurp the solution and commandeer it for themselves.
But I suppose that’s because people need hope and can’t face the bleak reality that no one is coming to save us. Not geniuses, not god, not the government. Nobody.
zazzologrendsyiyve@reddit
As I said I don’t really like the idea, but what I meant was not literally a bunch of geniuses working together in the same room. Just smart (maybe egomaniacs) people trying to make a name for themselves. And some of them sincerely trying to fix stuff with good intent.
whereismysideoffun@reddit
A genius can't just change the weather for all the breadbaskets of the world.
miscellaneous-bs@reddit
At this point, might be the only thing to generate real change in the US. I know thats very narrow minded but the epstein class is lookin a lil too comfortable
loralailoralai@reddit
Not just the ‘Epstein class’. The u.s as a whole isn’t as conscious as they should be
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Extreme heat and drought could damage harvests and worsen global food insecurity this summer.
Climate scientists, agricultural experts and policymakers warn that a super El Niño could tip vulnerable populations towards famine. El Niño is a climate phenomenon in the Pacific that affects weather patterns globally. Rare “super” El Niños generate exceptionally intense warming of water at the surface of the Pacific, with temperatures rising more than 2°C above historical averages. This sharply disrupts global weather, increasing the risk of extreme heat, droughts and flooding.
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camoure@reddit
Sure why not let’s go bring it on who cares anymore
donthaveaclu@reddit
Every apocalypse movie scenario happening at once
TheIrishWanderer@reddit
I saw this too. I'm going to repeat a comment I left elsewhere:
What I find especially intriguing about this is that it's one of the very few somewhat "mainstream" opinion pieces I've read that touches on the idea of widespread system collapse, and drivers accelerating one another.
"Climate and geopolitical shocks – from El Niño, global heating or wars – hit a food system which already magnifies environmental and social vulnerabilities. Feed‑based livestock production worsens climate breakdown, diverts land and resources from feeding people, and deepens risk."
This feels like it's come too late to help implement genuine change, but I think it represents an important shift in rhetoric that we should pay attention to. Expect to see more of these opinion pieces in the coming months as El Niño actually hits us. If it accelerates other causes of collapse like a double BOE or, worst case for me personally, an AMOC collapse, it could signal the start of the big SHTF event.
Last June, I predicted New START would collapse and it astonished me that no one in the media paid it any attention. When it came close to the expiration date, there was a notable uptick in the number of articles floating around. I hope I'm wrong, but I predict something similar with this El Niño event. It feels too big for even the media to ignore.
chota-kaka@reddit (OP)
SUBMISSION STATEMENT:
Extreme heat and drought could damage harvests and worsen global food insecurity this summer.
Climate scientists, agricultural experts and policymakers warn that a super El Niño could tip vulnerable populations towards famine. El Niño is a climate phenomenon in the Pacific that affects weather patterns globally. Rare “super” El Niños generate exceptionally intense warming of water at the surface of the Pacific, with temperatures rising more than 2°C above historical averages. This sharply disrupts global weather, increasing the risk of extreme heat, droughts and flooding.