Being lead on
Posted by spicystaticwater@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 30 comments
Im feeling so stuck and like im being lead on.
I have been in IT since 2019 and at my current company coming up on 3 years soon. Other coworkers were promoted over me to level 2 with way less experience. I finally spoke up earlier this year and my manager acknowledged I was more senior and said he would create a path and sys admin position + more money for me.
Now he did create said position but in another office and said my growth was put on pause bc the team had some cleaning up to do. That I wouldn’t be moved up to sys admin but level 2 support (like my less experienced coworkers and I had already said I didn’t want level 2 which is why he said he would create the sys admin role).
I feel so defeated, again. I have done the work to prove and show I can do more. Which he acknowledges!!??? I have spoken up and tried advocating for myself, and now I think he just said whatever to shut me up. I’ve applied to sys admin positions elsewhere but the job market is crap. Idk what else to do. I’m tired and embarrassed. I feel like I tried but keep failing. If you made it this far, ty for reading my rant lol
LuckyWriter1292@reddit
I've been there - don't believe what your manager is saying, I was told 3 times that the job would be mine, it never happened and after 7 years I was laid off.
Find something else and when they counter offer do not take it, they had their chance and know they are underpaying you.
I now move every 2 to 3 years as bosses never value technical staff.
HailYurii@reddit
Accept the offer, work your pay grade, and start passively applying. Loyalty within a corporation isn’t worth what it used to be. Most of the time the only way up is out.
Dave_A480@reddit
3 years is hop time...
Just make sure you have the-next-thing in hand before you hang it up at your current employer....
SAugsburger@reddit
Agreed. It sounds like he have them an opportunity to rectify things and haven't. Obviously not the best job market, but doesn't mean you can't start the pipeline towards applying and get the ball rolling.
Matt_NZ@reddit
I don't want to assume, but based on your avatar pic on reddit, are you a woman? Were the others men? Unfortunately, sexism is still pretty bad in IT
spicystaticwater@reddit (OP)
How did you knooowww🫠🫠 Yes and yes
Secret_Account07@reddit
For context- how’s the pay and benefits?
On site?
I would murder somebody AND take a pay cut to WFH again
StarSlayerX@reddit
What projects and learnings have you done that would propel you to the next level?
spicystaticwater@reddit (OP)
Workflow automation, setting up SCIM/ SSO provisioning, acting as an escalation point for my direct team, okta administration, leveraging and creating AI agents, creating documentation, etc Literally sysadmin stuff based on job postings I’ve seen
I have added all of this to my resume but I may need to redo it
LameBMX@reddit
you should always be redoing the resume. and always be on at least a soft hunt.
spicystaticwater@reddit (OP)
I have been but nothing else has come up…
gward1@reddit
I've been working on my LinkedIn for about 4 years now and am always active adding refining etc. Now I get recruiters almost every day even when I'm not looking or "open to work". Just saying it's a great tool but it takes persistence. Drop the Facebook or instagram or whatever and put your career first. There is no quick fix. It takes years of work to get the job you want.
largos7289@reddit
Guess it depends on where you want to take you're career. Honestly, learning code, setting up a firewall and that stuff is sorta easy. Managing people, fostering lines of networking, mentoring and being able to delegate effectively that's tough. We got a new hire and man... he's f**k'n green. Like oh my god why is he even here green. But it's like his first ever job and we were all there once.
Back when i was doing the, i just want to be a sysadmin and i can say i made it pep talk, it was easier to make friends with the guys already doing it. You show interest, they throw stuff at you or show you some things and that's how you get recognized and move up. Don't rely on your manager, he's just looking to run his dept. You gotta impress the manager of the people in the dept you want.
LustLiveXBL@reddit
These comments suck like jesus christ, this sub is like victim blaming of the IT world.
Someone comes with a legitimate problem because of terrible corporate IT practices and a shitty job market and their fault?
“WhAt PrOjEcTs ArE yOu WoRkInG oN?”
“YoU nEeD tO uP sKiLl!”
Everyone with half a fucking brain has been doing the recommended advice the last of couple of years, but IT has become a shit career path.
Half of the cocky commentators on this sub would cry and give up if they had to start their IT career from entry level in today’s world.
1Digitreal@reddit
I don't know you, so take it for what it's worth. Do you deserve to be a level two tech or sysadmin? In my experience I can identify someone who needs assistance with every task, handholding, repeat reminders to close tickets and timesheets, and can't find their own answers to problems. Those are level one techs. Level two techs start taking initiative, learn how to solve their own problems, assist others with tickets. Sysadmin build from ideas and support the environment. They work with technicians to create and automate solutions. Again, I don't know your situation, but if you don't feel valued, find a place that does value your skills. I worked one job while applying to others because I was getting shortchanged too. Just be patient and consistent.
spicystaticwater@reddit (OP)
Yes I do. I’ve done what you described as level 2 and sys admin. Which my manager acknowledged when I pleaded my case on being passed over for promotions.
1Digitreal@reddit
That's fair. Sometimes teams just play favorites and that sucks. Keep in mind, hunting for a new job is a marathon, not a sprint. Keep at it. Find companies you'd like to work for, and keep applying on their personal job boards. Avoid the spammy job hunting sites as much as you can, those are terrible. Good luck, you'll get there! Also I'd like an update if at all possible when you find your next home.
tr3kilroy@reddit
Move on. Polish the resume and start applying to new positions. Been in the game 30 years and I wish someone had told me that sooner. Finally asked one of the younger guys why he was leaving and he said if you aren't Sr a d you aren't progressing every 18 months, it's time to move on. Lead me to quit a shitty higher ed position and take an engineer role with an MSP that is happy to keep giving me more when I ask.
NerdyKid1101@reddit
Honestly? Leave 😬 I had something pretty similar at my last job and nothing ever changed. Also corporate just suuuucks dood, I've been at a law firm for a year now and I'm pretty sure I'm staying here for the rest of my life!
spicystaticwater@reddit (OP)
I wish but nothings sticking. Still applying…
NerdyKid1101@reddit
Flood the market as much as you can. I feel for you dood, it's always been rough finding a job since I started around 2018. Anything and everything. Incidentally, the place I'm at now was literally the bottom of my hoped for list but I'm so glad they saved me 😂
Kinamya@reddit
Do you pronounce it lead or lead?
spicystaticwater@reddit (OP)
lead
1Digitreal@reddit
That's the problem it's pronounced lead, not lead.
LameBMX@reddit
lead
milkthegoose@reddit
Led
Empty-Lingonberry133@reddit
What is the issue? Is it the title you're chasing or are you not being given work you want to work on?
You pleaded your case for title and money and your manager acknowledged you're good and gave you a raise but renegged on the title but you're doing system admin work, getting the pay just not the title.. is this accurate?
spicystaticwater@reddit (OP)
I wasn’t given anything. He said he would for the next review cycle and that we would work on a plan for the sys admin position (money, title, and seniority). I have tried to follow up, created 1:1 meetings and he is now taking it back and went ahead and created the role he said he was going to create for me (sys admin) in another office. I’m not getting the position anymore, just level 2 which I said I didn’t want when I originally talked to him.
Empty-Lingonberry133@reddit
MSP?
milkthegoose@reddit
Just be happy you are in a it position. Or wait the old guys and and take thier spots when they retire lol