Am I cooked
Posted by Ok-Pea9280@reddit | ebikes | View on Reddit | 17 comments
I just bought an aventon ebike for 2,099 and the bike shop said it went 80 miles and I got 30 miles on a full charge. Is this normal?
Posted by Ok-Pea9280@reddit | ebikes | View on Reddit | 17 comments
I just bought an aventon ebike for 2,099 and the bike shop said it went 80 miles and I got 30 miles on a full charge. Is this normal?
Unique_Ad_3312@reddit
30 miles seems low, but it depends on how much assist you used, throttle use, and resistance such as wind, your weight, etc.
I have an Aventon and last weekend rode 25 miles and had around 50% battery when I got home. Used assist level 1 the majority of the time and only used the throttle to help get up the top of a few steeper hills.
Give it some more time and more rides to see how the battery life differs depending on how you ride.
Ok-Pea9280@reddit (OP)
No assist
Hungry_Rest1182@reddit
No PAS? Or no throttle.... no assist would mean you didn't use any watts from the battery.
m2keo@reddit
Shops are just quoting the OEM ads. Never listen to them. Next time go with the bike that gives u the highest wattage hour(wH).
Yaakeqin@reddit
No you are not. Any brand any ebike will give you the same result
BodSmith54321@reddit
Which Aventon?
SlashNreap@reddit
Would you have bought that Ebike if the shop told you it'll do 30 miles? I'd say it's pretty normal as far as that goes.
Otherwise, I don't know, depends how you ride it. Your advertised capacity doesn't match real conditions, they test it in ideal situations in ideal environments.
Prestigious_View_401@reddit
A 700wh battery isn’t getting 80 miles lol
AntEaterApocalypse@reddit
Advertised range numbers are for lowest levels of assist, on flat ground, with a reasonably fit rider, on a average temperature day. Unless you match that very specific criteria then you won't see the exact advertised numbers.
Superb_Raccoon@reddit
And no wind.
Superb_Raccoon@reddit
Three things:
Air resistance takes 4x energy every time you double your speed.
15mph is where Air resistance is the biggest factor in total resistance.
Relative air speed. So a 10 mph headwind means going 15 mph costs 300% more energy... which comes from the battery.
No one goes just 15 mph.
Resplendent_Komorebi@reddit
How were you riding? Pulling any hills? That makes a big difference.
newfarmer@reddit
Unlike, say, a rechargeable flashlight, there are a lot more usage and demand variables for an e-bike.
Nevertheless it seems like the industry could come out with better way to calculate battery life and range for a particular person and terrain.
Magneto-Rex@reddit
have to use just a little bit of pedal assist and you can get way more range, the slightest bit of pedaling makes a huge difference
Inciteful_Analysis@reddit
They probably said it goes UP TO 80 miles. If you are a heavy rider using throttle everywhere, that will translate to 30 miles.
But this is a problem with how range testing is done. Range is typically stated under ideal conditions: flat pavement, no throttle, light rider, no wind, moderate temperatures, in ECO mode.
And because all the reviewers test in the lowest assist level (ECO), manufacturers game the system by making ECO mode nearly useless with just a trickle of assist. You can confirm this by average speed testing done by EBR where they average 9mph with assist turned off and 10mph in ECO mode.
This is why reviewers should do range testing with the lowest assist level that averages 15mph or more -- the most widely used trail speed limit and a speed more representative of how most people use ebikes. This would end the gaming of the system with weaker and weaker ECO modes that no one uses.
Cosmic_Hephaestus@reddit
Yeah you have to pedal with pas 1 to get those numbers. Plus can’t be too hot or cold. Also hills matter as well.
Ok-Carpenter-8455@reddit
If you didn't have it on PAS 1 the whole time with little to no throttle then yes.. That is normal.