Long Term Effects of Drive-thru Car Wash?
Posted by feelinggee@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 64 comments
I have a five year-old car that I would love to keep in pristine condition for as long as I have it, which I predict to be the next 10 years. I have heard a lot of bad things about drive-through car washes affecting your paint. I live in an apartment building and in an area where I have no access or ability to hand wash my car. My question is how long does it take to begin to see visible effects of the destruction that the drive-through car wash is doing to my paint. Does anybody have long term experience using these car washes that they might want to share? I appreciate the feedback.
Longjumping-Log1591@reddit
What town do you live in that does not have a self service car wash ? I can't imagine one city without a SS car wash, besides Mackinac Island where cars are not allowed.
silvercurls17@reddit
Self service car washes are pretty rare in northern Virginia.
feelinggee@reddit (OP)
And that’s exactly where I live lol
TwoBlackCats42@reddit
Was going to say “same” to the comment above you, but now you get my “same” 🤣
DANPARTSMAN44@reddit
I'm retiring to Virginia and opening a chain of car washes
Longjumping-Log1591@reddit
Good to know, sterling is like 10 miles away they might have a couple. There's one on every other corner here in Colorado, just seemed weird ..maybe i should invest in one there lol
feelinggee@reddit (OP)
I’m in Tysons Corner, VA
Sig-vicous@reddit
It depends on your expectations of finish quality and what you do to maintain it. Washes that have brushes that touch the paint can degrade it after one single wash. But do you personally notice it or care about it, that's a different animal.
Pristine is a strong word. To keep a finish pristine with less than moderate maintenance would require you to barely drive the car and keep it in the garage. You can do more damage to the finish in 60 minutes of highway use and a year of sun exposure than a couple machine washes will do.
Color makes a big difference. A white car can see a number of washes without a noticeable visual difference in finish quality whereas a black car will show tons of swirl marks with just one machine wash.
Finish maintenance is a big factor. If I run my car through a touch wash 4 times a month, but I polish it every 4 weeks, it will have a better looking finish than someone who only hand washes all year but polishes it only once every couple years.
And you have to come to terms with what your angle is. If it's maintaining value, it usually doesn't matter. A 6 or 8 year old car with a blah finish compared to one with a brilliant finish is barely a difference in resale value. Maybe a few more bucks to a private buyer. Otherwise book value is book value.
But maybe you enjoy a better looking finish and you find it personally worth it to keep it that way.
You're asking for discrete answers to your question but there are a large amount of variables that you haven't defined.
If you want to keep a darker colored car in honest pristine condition, want to use machine washes, and don't have the ability to maintain your finish at home, then you should expect to pay a detailer to polish and seal your car at least a few times a year.
Running the same car through a bunch of machine washes without maintaining the finish will quickly result in a poor finish.
But you have to define your definitions of pristine and poor, and why it's important to you.
Gunnut350@reddit
Why go to an automatic car wash???? Are there no manual do it yourself washes within 100 of you ????? But then I guess most of you on here are less than 50 years old and don’t have a clue what that is or how to use it!!!!!
Hash-82@reddit
I have used drive thru car washes for nearly 20 years.
Other than having the antenna a ripped off of one of my older pickups, I've never had an issue.
I actually subscribe to the monthly packages, and go several times a week.
The only input I can't offer is regarding a black car. I live in the south, with lots of sun, and will not own an oven with wheels.
TheSaltyWahooo@reddit
People love to over exaggerate with auto washes. No it doesn’t collect rocks and glass shards and empty vape carts and destroy you paint. The fucking thing spins it all off #1 after the car goes thru it for that reason. #2 it’s not like people are driving gravel filled dump trucks through it or caked on mud very time they go through it. Auto washes are perfectly fine and leave a nice finish. Black might be your only tough one but fuck me sideways if your paint doesn’t micro scratch or swirl if doing it by hand. Those who religiously whine about auto washes and decry it just want to feel better about doing hand washes every single time.
stadce071012@reddit
Been using an automated car wash for about 10 years now, most of that time with an unlimited pass going several times a week.
All our vehicles have been white or silver. Yes they do swirl the paint, but you can’t see it unless you examine it up close. Our cars are always clean, which is what I care about.
Automatic washes are fine unless you have OCD, or are one of those weird people that would rather be waxing and polishing instead of enjoying the weekend.
Aggressive_Lex350@reddit
Only do the touchless drive thru carwash and you'll be fine. Don't do any of those that have brushes or spinning brush that touches your paint. Unless you want swirls and scratches.
feelinggee@reddit (OP)
Unfortunately, I’ve only been using the contact ones. I’ll try to see if I can find any touchless ones nearby. How long have you been using them and how’s the condition of your paint now?
Key-Experience-7961@reddit
Some of the brushy washes can disable them and basically work as a touchless tunnel. Worth asking, if they're the sort that has an attendant that preps your car as it goes in.
I've owned my car since 2014 and have ran it through touchless washes probably hundreds of times and the car still looks brand new. It's white though which can hide a lot
Aggressive_Lex350@reddit
I've only used touchless on my lexus, and paint is pristine. I've used the nontouchless a few times on my rav4, and it has some swirls. Never again.
Some-Attitude8183@reddit
Whatever. I don’t worry about it - have both my cars with monthly car wash that ISNT touchless. Oh well. It’s a car…
ForcefulUnicorn@reddit
A drive-through wash that isn't touchless? Immediate effects. Lots of built up rocks and gunk from every other car that's been through there for who knows how long now whirl-winding against your car
feelinggee@reddit (OP)
I’ve also read that the touchless ones rely on highly abrasive chemicals to get the desired cleaning effect as the contact ones and those chemicals might be equally harmful to the paint. This is stressful haha
ForcefulUnicorn@reddit
Depends on the car wash I imagine, but I'd still take that over contact ones
LeadingNectarine@reddit
I find they do a really lousy job. I park in an underground garage and they just can’t get the dust off very well
BillyRubenJoeBob@reddit
I do a ceramic quick detail after using the touchless. Seems fine on my circa 2008 paint.
ExpensiveOccasion542@reddit
Repeat after me: touch less. If you truly want touchless, just hand wash it. Used to work at a carwash and customer got upset over something the carwash did. He worded it that way.
FreidasBoss@reddit
How is handwashing touchless?
IronyIntended2@reddit
If I wanted touchless I’d marry it
loopsbruder@reddit
What's the point of writing "repeat after me" on a comment thread? How does that add any emphasis?
ExpensiveOccasion542@reddit
Because of people believing it's touchless and not touch less. there is a difference
acousticsking@reddit
You could just wash by hand.
RocMerc@reddit
My outback is turning six soon and goes through maybe twice a week. It’s scratched to hell but that’s about it
Brandz96@reddit
you'll be fine, this is a topic that's overblown honestly.
ZymurgyBro@reddit
Optimum No Rinse and the Gary Dean wash method. Cheap ready and effective. Then go to a self service stall every 6 six weeks or so and use the pressure washer to rinse out the roof rails, cracks, and wheel wells.
ThickAsABrickJT@reddit
Almost all of them will swirl the finish. If the car has any glossy black plastic trim, you can see it after the very first wash. Darker areas will get scratched first, though eventually the scratches will accumulate to the point of making the finish look dull.
Some people make a very big deal out of this, but unless the car is always going to sit in a garage all week and only get pulled out for a Sunday drive, these things will happen anyway. Your daily driver's finish will get scratched by road dust, dulled by UV, and attacked by bird poop, and the effects of the car wash (assuming you only go to one that's properly maintained) will be negligible in comparison to that imposed by daily use and abuse.
All of this surface damage can be hidden with regular waxing, but eventually the clear coat will fail and then you'll have to get the car refinished if you still want the showroom floor look. Automatic washes, leaving corrosive debris on the car, and parking in sunlight will accelerate that.
FreidasBoss@reddit
OP, this is the most sound and realistic advice. Road debris, environment, daily wear and tear are all going to do far more damage to your paint than any kind of car wash.
It’s great that you’re planning to keep this car for the long haul, and with that in mind put some money aside for an annual professional detailing that includes a good wax finish. It’ll help mitigate the impacts from everything else. After some time you may want to get the paint color corrected or even resprayed.
Don’t sweat the car wash.
TuvixHadItComing@reddit
If the issue is no hose, or excessive runoff, the Gary Dean method with a no-rinse soap will work fine. Once you get the technique down it doesn't take very long and you are using around 2 gallons of water. A year's worth of supplies for doing this type of wash can be had for like $60:
Bottle of rinseless wash such as Optimum No Rinse
20-pack of microfibres
A spray bottle
A bucket
A bottle of spray-wax if you wanna get fancy with it.
Apart from reduced water usage, the nice thing about this system is you are basically never letting the same piece of cloth touch your car twice, apart from the drying cloth which should stay clean. So you greatly reduce the odds of dragging a piece of grit across your paint.
Tough-Marsupial-6254@reddit
Get yourself a 5 gallon bucket with a lid, wash mit and decent soap. Fill the bucket up, then hit the self service car wash
Gord_Is_Good@reddit
I have a subscription wash plan for my Honda Fit and Subie Crosstrek. The facility uses microfiber strips; so far so good.
KaleidoscopeRound721@reddit
Our local touch-less chain has unlimited monthly car washes for $29.99. I’m grandfathered in at $19.99/month. I try to go at least once a week in the winter months to get the salt & grime off, especially for the underside. Less so in summer. Been doing this for decades and it could definitely be seen on my black cars, less so on the lighter cars. IMO a worthwhile trade-off in my area just to get the salt off.
Auto_update@reddit
Scuffs you need a jewelers loupe to see or a rust bucket in ~5 years… hmmmm…
Stock-Maximum9755@reddit
I’m willing to bet there’s a detail shop or mobile detailing company who’d do you a better job than any of the touchless or automatic ones. Ask around. Google search it. Nearby ive got a guy who does both and he’s very good plus reasonable.
feelinggee@reddit (OP)
I’ll look into this. My only hesitation would be how ridiculously they all charge, even just for exterior wash alone. I do the interior myself and I do a great job with it. I’ll see what I can find.
Stock-Maximum9755@reddit
I get that. Good luck
Technically_Y3S@reddit
I have a 2015 Tahoe, 2nd owner, notoriously terrible clear-coat issues on this generation. I bought from the original owner who had a business subscription to the car wash and did it every week, for 8 years. The pawing on the hood, roof, rear quarter and half the tailgate is toast, beyond saving. I used this information to get a good deal, but they also got the oil changed religiously at the dealer every 5k & other than wear items and known issues popping up it’s been fantastic, it looks like ass but it looks like they because they cared for it but didn’t know how to care for paint properly.
feelinggee@reddit (OP)
Wow…sounds like I was on my way to being that first owner. I had a subscription at the nearby car wash too
Colonelmann@reddit
I like my new car a lot, but not enough to hand wash it. There's no touch less options nearby either. It still does what I bought it to do.
feelinggee@reddit (OP)
How long have you been putting it through the tunnels?
Colonelmann@reddit
Since I bought it December 2023 brand new. I wanted cherry red but chose silver since it shows less dirt and scratches. I will never ever own a black car again.
Total-Improvement535@reddit
Technically it happens with the first wash. The swirl marks and scratches will get deeper and more pronounced with time.
In my experience, touchless ones don’t get all of the grime off and leave a thin film of dirt on the car that just adds up.
Your best bet would be to get the car ceramic coated or ppf’d so that is taking the brunt of the damage instead of your paint.
feelinggee@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the tip. I’m actually considering getting it ceramic coated soon for the first time
stchman@reddit
I've been using my drive thru car wash and it does a good job. Very few scratches. The bad thing is, if you drive the car, it is going to get scratched. Your vehicle being parked outside 24/7 is going to do more harm to the paint that a weekly drive thru car wash.
If you do the drive thru wash thing, just make sure you wax it somewhat regularly, this will keep the paint slick.
feelinggee@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the tip
shrapee@reddit
The second you drive in your car will explode and kill everyone within a 5 mile radius
feelinggee@reddit (OP)
😂😂
Any_Web_1784@reddit
Shows up about the first soft touch car wash. Most the scratches would come out with buffing but if you dont put them in you dont have to take them out. Or use touch free washes
FlounderKind8267@reddit
Better than having bird poo on your car for an extended time
feelinggee@reddit (OP)
I literally have some on there for like a week now 😂
July_is_cool@reddit
Any sort of car wash is better than leaving bird droppings or bugs on the paint.
F3arless_Bubble@reddit
Black car? Thats a you problem. They will get scratched by everything and it will be made visible. I have a white Pearl paint Honda accord. I have gone to touch drive through washes since 2018. There are no visible marks.
If the car was a darker color? Prob see a bunch. That’s why I prefer lighter colors.
PhilsFanDrew@reddit
When I was renting I would go to one of the self service car washes where you had to hose down the car yourself and it had the knob to add soap. I just would pick up a telescoping car wash mop at Walmart for like $10 and keep a plastic grocery bag in my trunk. I would just spray down my car with the suds and use my own microfiber mop and then rinse and towel dry. I just keep a grocery bag to throw the microfiber mop head in when I was done with the towels I used to dry. Wash them both and then put back in another grocery bag for next time.
WestCoastKGB@reddit
Just use the touchless car wash. No need for the extra super clean turbo package (extra chemicals). The basic first or second option is fine and be more or less gentle with chemicals
Coagula13@reddit
Retailers love to see you coming... if you want to get rid of the swirls
alanbdee@reddit
I've seen this come up often. I wash my cars about once a month when I'm getting gas. Have done so for decades. My 4Runner that we've had for 23 years, is only now starting to show issues and I don't think it has anything to do with the automatic car washes. Every other car, all of which I've driven well into 200k+ miles, looked great. I do avoid the contact ones now because I have had my rear wiper ripped off twice. Both times, the gas station paid to fix it.
Sure, it's better to wash it down with a babies diaper and changing the water between every other wipe. But I ain't got time for that. The automatic ones have been fine.
Advanced-Elk-7581@reddit
It dulls and degrades the finish. Little by little.
Relevant_Election530@reddit
Touchless seems fine, but be weary if you have rims.
I don't think all rim finishes are fans
feelinggee@reddit (OP)
I only have on the stock wheels that came with the car so I don’t think I should have an issue there.