Can you afford to pay 70 pounds more tax a year?

Posted by sequenceOfChars@reddit | AskABrit | View on Reddit | 12 comments

UK-born nationals averaged a net fiscal value of about -£70 per year.

Which is fine, because being alive is not a business.

Before Brexit, EU workers in the UK averaged about +£2,300 per year.

Meaning that, using the British government’s own pre-Brexit figures, every 1 EU worker in the UK roughly offset the net fiscal deficit of about 32 average British citizens.

So after throwing out the people paying into the system, Britain now desperately needs to watch every penny while enjoying its newfound Brexit freedoms, from home, because they can no longer freely work across the other 26 EU member states.

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Darrowby_385@reddit

Its about 20p a day across a year, so yes, not a problem. But what the total would be spent on is the question.

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ICantBelieveItsNotEC@reddit

It shouldn't be a question of whether we can or can't. We must.

The idea that British citizens should be living it large using the surplus value generated by foreign workers is philosophically repugnant. That's not a country, it's a hotel.

We need to get to a place where the median Brit is a lifetime net contributor. That means people will have to pay more tax, but it should ideally also mean that people should be working in roles that generate more value in the first place, meaning higher salaries and a better quality of life.

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sequenceOfChars@reddit (OP)

Indeed, the 70 gbp required to get the value of each British citizen back up to 0 should be mandatory.

It could even be some form of national service, 2 days street sweeping or similar a year, it would all help.

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811545b2-4ff7-4041@reddit

I wouldn't even notice £5.83 leaving my bank monthly

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TartRevolutionary970@reddit

I'd need to cut down on sweets.

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sequenceOfChars@reddit (OP)

That is a lot of sweets.

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Peng_Terry@reddit

…the scientism staticians are reducing people to “net fiscal value” now?

This is getting out of hand. A PERSON IS NOT A STATISTIC. ONCE YOU TREAT THEM AS SUCH, YOU BECOME A ROBOT.

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sequenceOfChars@reddit (OP)

We will mark you down into the no category.

Beep beep!

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Bellimars@reddit

Who would have thought that a better educated, more privileged workforce would also be more socially mobile? And you're telling me, people who might have any sort of disability or similar issues tend to stay in their country of birth and not travel for work.

I'm all for the EU but this is the most disingenuous statistic I've ever seen. Even worse it's a wholly distasteful argument which equates people worth with their income or the level of taxation they bare. It's an argument that would sit nicely in a Reddit like r/shitAmericanssay

Do better than this, it's ghastly.

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Southernbeekeeper@reddit

Yes

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Naughty-Stepper@reddit

I would be inclined to consider that balanced nuance if the figures were offset against UK government wastage. I accept I pay tax to help the world go around but, object to paying more to backfill poor financial management. All we feel at the moment is take take take. The picture is bigger than net migration.