Percentage of population who would fight for their country. What do you think about balkan countries' position ?
Posted by GoHardLive@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 77 comments
No_Idea_479@reddit
A newer poll shows this for Balkan countries:
*Turkey: 88%
*Albania: 69%
*Montenegro: 63%
*Greece: 63%
*Slovenia: 49%
*Italy (0.1% Balkan): 25%
Source
pluckyvirus@reddit
Yeah no way Turkey is real. Everyone I know feels left alone.
Available_Bus_9010@reddit
Do you believe they answered honetly? Definetly not. I would definetly not go to war for my country.
Dissent-n-Compromise@reddit
Ukraine was as polarised as this roachnest, yet when Russians crossed border things went differenty. Fighting for your country is a lie, ppl fight to silence their inner thoughts.
JRJenss@reddit
Croatia is not even on the chart. 😂
Stripgaddar31@reddit
No fuckin way turkey is higher than 60 percent
Voldypants_420@reddit
Like it really depends on the context for many of us.
If it's basically getting bullied by bigger powers and an unjust war against my country? By all means I'd go and fight however I can.
If it's a bullshit war waged for political gains because as our Padişah says: "dıj güşler", fuck no, count me out. What did they give me in 25 years that I'll give my life for them in return?
Stripgaddar31@reddit
Ey if its not against israel or US im running for the hills bro, riches of the bourgeoise is not worth mine and your life
Voldypants_420@reddit
Pretty much.
Also the Nazi Zombies from the Moon. I'll be on the frontlines with a red bandana on my head and a Cuban cigar in my mouth if that's the case. /s
Defiant_Being_9222@reddit
I don't think these polls mean much. If Germany was attacked or about to be attacked I would guess their percentage would jump. They probably reflect the feeling of safety in each country more than anything.
Dull_Cucumber_3908@reddit
"Fight for your country" can be interpreted in several ways. Probably the right question would be "fight to protect your country". People of Germany, Japan and Italy for example in WW2 did fight for their country but didn't fight to protect their country.
MeetingImpressive689@reddit
I think that most of the Greeks who say they would fight, they wouldn't, and vice versa! It was always like that! They would sell their mother to save their pathetic skins!
Adistaktos34@reddit
The last war showed the exact opposite of what you say. Maybe you have the problem.
Adistaktos34@reddit
I think it makes a huge difference whether it's an offensive or defensive war. It doesn't clarify the question. The percentages would change drastically if the question was whether you would defend your country.
hemijaimatematika1@reddit
According to this poll,Bosnia would be n1 if you only polled Bosniaks
ExtremeProfession@reddit
18-30 yo Bosniaks themselves would hardly fight.
hemijaimatematika1@reddit
Who do you think was polled?
67 year old women?
tsintsunami@reddit
This list has a bunch of mistakes. First of all there is no country named Macedonia. Second of all 54% of Palestinians? I highly doubt that percentage and what was the number of people asked? I’d expect that to be among the highest.
morbihann@reddit
Saying it and doing it are different things.
randomguyfuckit@reddit
Look at Ukraine as example
Zekieb@reddit
The German language has a nice word for it: Gratismut = free bravery
It's easy to have a big mouth in a safe and relatively comfortable environment
randomguyfuckit@reddit
How you know its fake? Ukrakne shows 50+% here, but in real life thry need to force them to defend
Wilcocliw1@reddit
From when is this source? I mean I dunno of Russia and Ukraine is still this high, considering the duration and way of war. Not to mention corruption.
Beneficial_Ad_5157@reddit
Would you fight for a organised crime syndicate?*
Lysergial@reddit
Afghanistan, that sure is a bullshit number. This is flawed at best.
evacOrbis@reddit
let me fix it for you:
percentage of population who would fight for some idiots who decide to go to war
Lothronion@reddit
Because always when war happens both governments have agreed to do it.
If you just refer to "some idiots" on the other side, then it is like saying "percentage of people who would fight to defend themselves because some idiot decided to stab them".
evacOrbis@reddit
I am referring to the idiots in authority who decide to go to war from ANY country, including own
Lothronion@reddit
Then why even maintain a state, if at the first moment one attacks it you just surrender to them? It is then just like the example with the knife-attack, and calling the person who was attacked as an "idiot" for resisting dying.
evacOrbis@reddit
I am not saying that, I am saying I prefer to solve disputes in piece
Dissent-n-Compromise@reddit
Most ordinary Ukrainians preferred so, look at their street interviews a week before the invasion and you will see they do not believe RF will cross border and crush Ukraine. Until they crossed. We all come from secondary powers, our preferences matter little.
evacOrbis@reddit
and by choosing to defend or forced to defend when it's clear who the superpower is, does it change anything?
Dissent-n-Compromise@reddit
Unfortunately it does, war readiness saves lots of lives. Ukrainians would have it much painful without Territorial Defense Force.
evacOrbis@reddit
I don't know man, I don't see a point in it
Dissent-n-Compromise@reddit
Let us all enjoy relative peace until some shit happens, then 🙂
TheRoyalPepperoni@reddit
You fight for your country not your government. Or people now days don’t have any national identity
Archivist2016@reddit
A lot of Balkaners online hate their country but can't leave it, so they resort to insulting it all day. It's wild to see just how many people are eager to throw their people to the wolves. Fortunately irl these people aren't numerous.
New_Reception_5387@reddit
bro I would fight in the aggressor side
Forward-Rub-8187@reddit
Why are the willing to fight then coning to Europe in such huge numbers?!
Tableforoneperson@reddit
Fiji 94%.
It is easy to be brave in the middle of nowhere.
Fun_Success_45@reddit
The history can attest to Vietnam and Afghanistan, but Georgia:S
They just lost two chunks of their country without fighting. I am not saying they did something wrong; Georgia is very stable and loved by everyone around the world, but I am not sure about their statement.
Are we sure that it is the country of Georgia, not the state:P
I am surprised by the Balkan countries' comparable lower ratios.
Inevitable_Motor_685@reddit
How come Serbia is 46%
OveHet@reddit
I imagine high percent of 60+ yr olds, they would all "fight", lol
betacarotentoo@reddit
For once, I like the Japanese.
Comfortable_Cress194@reddit
For my country its expected to be this low. We don't have an army and rely on nato and or neighbours to defend us(Bulgaria)
Repulsive_Work_226@reddit
it depends if my country is aggressor or not. not taking part in a war that aims to invade somewhere else.
Same-Platform-9793@reddit
You got to fight, for your right, to party !
Koffielurker_@reddit
Let's go second to last patriotic in the world baby!
Schmutzschutzigen@reddit
Why the fuck Croatia is not on this charts like ever
Dry_Vehicle_6328@reddit
We are 100% that's why 😂
AmiraAdelina@reddit
I wonder what the result would be if the question was "Would you fight for the rich bankers and military industry?"
GeorgeSupremu@reddit
True, in the past even leaders were on the frontline, now they just stay behind and if they lose they flee to another country while the innocent die.
EL_ProfessionalHater@reddit
I'll say with absolutely no shame that i woudln't fight for my country, not even if i'm guaranteed to no harm.
However, i would willingly go to war knowing i will not return alive for the safety of my family.
Agreeing to go to war because of someone's political choices is simply not my thing. I'm not here to get the affirmation of nobodies that are nothing but some random strangers to me.
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
Rip Austria
Substratas@reddit
One can start fighting for their country by keeping the streets & nature clean. And by not driving like a rabid beast. That’s how one fights for their country.
Substratas@reddit
They need to start by keeping the streets & nature clean. And not drive like rabid beasts. That’s how you fight for your country. ❤️
ThickArt6492@reddit
These numbers are irrelevant. If push comes to shove, the only thing that matters is how many people would actually show up. And I think that number is significantly smaller.
Substratas@reddit
We don’t even need to go that far. The most important indicator is how much people respect their country & their compatriots in day-to-day life.
If they’re corrupt, cheaters, people who litter, don’t wait in line, drive like animals, etc, they are not fighting for their country - they’re selfish beasts.
Marakajin@reddit
"Fight for your country" is such vague nonsense. If someone's actually being invaded, barbarians at the gates and all that, they'll probably fight. It's that most people realize this is a rare occurrence nowadays and the aftermath of wars are forgotten sons and rich politicians and corpos. That's why these things are framed in such undefined terms. Call it "national interest" and you can define it however it suits you.
I don't know man, without even answering the question, the countries at the top of that list aren't the ones I'd keep in company, let alone aspire to be like. There's probably a reason for that.
fk_censors@reddit
This survey is sort of an IQ test, it looks like.
CodeBr3ker@reddit
I ain’t gonna fight to protect unemployed Muhammed and his useless family🤮
determine96@reddit
It depends what kind of war we are speaking.
Offensive - nope.
Defensive - yep, if it's not Russia or US because in that case I should kill my fellow countryman or some of them may shot me in the back.
Beautiful-Dish-6275@reddit
Croatia is probably so low it went into negative lmao.
Substratas@reddit
For karma points, yes. In real life, no.
RossMxx@reddit
Shameful statistic for Europe.
whiteoba@reddit
I’m more interested in what’s got people in Fiji so worked up
GoHardLive@reddit (OP)
and Papua New Guenea
No_Stomach_2341@reddit
Papua new guinea are literally fighting tribes still. Been there. Crazy
Embarrassed-Race5617@reddit
LOL. who's gonna fight in Sweden?? That's bullshit
Catman_192@reddit
I think percentage for Serbia is true, (probably lower if we ever get to that position). It's interesting how Germany and Japan became so pacifistic, less than a century ago they were complete opposite. So we are safe from them, I guess? I didn't know that Morrocco is so patriotic.
Zeonist-@reddit
There is nothing left to fight for this country
AST360@reddit
pluckyvirus@reddit
There is nothing *left, they meant probably
Various-Barber-7162@reddit
Your flair is fake
TurbulentGrowth9814@reddit
Ironically most of the ones that would fight for their country are the ones that suffered the most from wars… Germany and Italy are the ones that would migrate first
Janosh_Poha@reddit
These polls are garbage. I came across a Gallup poll from June 1980 (when President Carter visited Yugoslavia, because he didn't attend Tito's funeral), and it said something similar. I think it said that over 80% of Yugoslavs would defend Yugoslavia from either a Soviet invasion or nationalist uprising from within.
lilian_moraru@reddit
How old is this? I doubt Iceland is still at 26% - usually a threat to your country increases that percentage.