Console player here, do I need 32gb of ram? (7500X3D/RX6800XT Bazzite HTPC)
Posted by Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 54 comments
Console convert here, I'm struggling to understand the importance of having 32gb of DDR5 ram specifically. I got the 7500X3D microcenter bundle for $300 and paired it with an RX 6800 XT I scooped for $280 second hand. The bundle came with a single 16gb stick of gskill ddr5 c36 6000. The plan was to use it for a bit on bazzite to see how the OS manages, then I'd see if I wanted buy another one later, at hopefully a lower price (doubtful). I think I'm good, or maybe I just don't know enough..
3 things:
1) 32gb for gaming
I usually target 4K 60fps, which my setup seemingly handles well. Gameplay is stable, no hard drops below 45 that I've felt or seen. I have to turn on FSR and set it to Quality for something like Expedition 33 (low settings), or RE9 (max settings, RT on high). 1440p is a non-issue, but truth be told I havent spent much time at 1440p, everything I tested ran butter smooth with settings cranked up. With 32gb, Can I crank up settings at 4K? Do I get more FPS? How would more affect a game really?
2) 32gb for 4K 60 game capture
I also make youtube videos, but unless more ram reduces 4K rendering times, idc tbh. I would like to record 4K 60fps gameplay though. Linux has lightweight recordering software, but I'm worried 32gb is still not enough for recording a stress test or longplay of a demanding game. I'm also not sure how ram affects game recording in general. My assumption is that recording quality is tied to the GPU, which has its own vram, where does system ram play into this? Should I just get an elgato instead of software based recording?
3) 16gb ddr5 for $100, secondhand
I found a listing for the same brand stick second hand, its $100. Should I wait for ram pricing to go down in general? Or is $100 a decent price all things considered?
Please advise.
lLoveTech@reddit
No you do not necessarily need 32GB of RAM especially for gaming in 2026!
the_Athereon@reddit
16GB is the bare minimum now. Since Win11 will eat up 6-8GB of that on its own. (Can get that down to 3-4GB if you debloat and disable background tasks.)
32GB is the recommended size since even heavy multitasking won't fill that up whilst gaming.
If you want to do anything besides games, CAD work or Video Editing, you may want 64GB but that's not a requirement. It just makes things smoother.
SirThunderDump@reddit
16GB is fine.
My concern would be that it’s a single stick. Lacking dual channel memory would be a pretty significant performance hit, I believe.
It’ll get you by for now, but yeah, one stick is a pretty big performance hit.
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
Bro these numbers are very close, I think I'm chilling. They're not even using an X3D cpu either, thank you!
ItZ_Jonah@reddit
I'm gonna jump in, but you might be fine now, there are some games that you would be significantly held back in. Numbers look close but that's on games that are already running pretty well, it could be the difference between stable 60 and not. What if something comes out you want to play that chews through ram. You should be mostly fine, but if you can get the same ram for $100 in this economy I'd say go for it. No indication prices are going down any time soon and 16gb is but tight especially in single channel. You did also mention in another comment using a elgato for capture instead of increased memory, but the thing is you need both the elgato doesn't work fully standalone it still needs to use resources to save files or run streams. Every single extra app you have open uses more memory which puts you closer to the limit as well.
SirThunderDump@reddit
Small nit here (not disagreeing with you, just adding):
If Windows is behaving properly (lol like that ever happens), the OS should be sending idle apps over to the page file to open up RAM space for games in active use. Running something like discord + a game should still be fine on 16GB.
It’s possible that Elgato will put this over the edge, though, as I think it needs at least 4GB to run properly. If Elgato is running along with other active applications, yeah. OP will experience some nasty performance issues if the OS starts needing to page active applications.
SirThunderDump@reddit
Awesome, so you should be set!
6gunsammy@reddit
That was a ddr4 issue not so much ddr5 16 gb an over sticks
SirThunderDump@reddit
The link I sent was a DDR-5 comparison. Some of the benchmarks show significant impact for 1 stick of DDR5 vs 2.
ChillingCone426_2@reddit
You really don’t need 32gb of ram, unless your doing a lot of multi tasking. I would suggest checking your ram usage while doing what you normally do and see what the usage is. If you have a few gb to spare your probably fine. More ram is not going to give more performance unless ram is your bottleneck.
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
Okay, I do have like 4gb free when playing re9 at 4k so maybe I'm good
Gabians@reddit
Do you ever have a web browser open while you're gaming?
I'm not on DDR5 yet but from what I understand the thing is with it it's much better to have all your sticks be the same model. If you do want to upgrade down the line is that ram stick going to be easy to find secondhand? What if microcenter stops selling it in their bundles? I don't know the answers just something to consider.
ChillingCone426_2@reddit
I would think your fine. I mean you’re close to max, but as long as it says around that you will be fine. Obviously if you want that extra room go ahead and get the extra ram, but it’s not necessary.
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
Yeah seems so, and I don't, maybe the low price of it has me jumping the gun a bit
ChillingCone426_2@reddit
I mean it’s not going to hurt you to buy it. It’s just up to you on if you want to spend the money, as it will somewhat future proof you
Olue@reddit
16gb here. Sitting around 75-85% just running chrome with ~10 tabs and a couple of Excel workbooks open. I do wish I had 32gb quite often.
randylush@reddit
32gb would not be a noticeable upgrade for you. You wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
Liesthroughisteeth@reddit
Stay at or under 6000 speeds and i32GB can be found at more reasonable prices. Unless yo are a a walking, talking RAM test suite, you'll not notice any difference. :)
Bominyarou@reddit
You could go for 24GB if you want to save some money (16+8) and it will be enough for gaming mostly. If you play indie games only,16gb is good enough, if you plan on playing AAA and 60GB+ games then 32GB ram is mostly recommended.
-UserRemoved-@reddit
If you don't have any issues, then there is nothing to fix.
Using 1 stick vs 2 means you are running single channel instead of dual channel. Dual channel provides twice the bandwidth between CPU and memory, which can effect certain CPU workloads. You are likely missing out on some game performance and most certainly some productivity performance, but it doesn't matter if your games are running at or above your standards.
The capacity only matters if you don't have enough, in which case overall performance would be noticeably slow. If you don't run into issues with insufficient capacity, then more capacity isn't going to matter.
randylush@reddit
Yeah folks acting like you’ll never find 32gb ever again, are part of the problem
mattmaster68@reddit
I can think of only a teeny tiny number of games that in some way benefit from more RAM:
* Minecraft
* Cities:Skylines
I think the higher amount of RAM, in gaming, has a generally negligible part to play.
With that CPU/GPU combo and your 16GB DDR5, I’d be shocked if you *couldn’t* do what you’re planning to do.
My question is: have you *attempted* this yet?
Like other users have said, that 2nd RAM stick is an amazing price. **However** DDR5 can be finicky. It’s recommended to use RAM from the same kit to *guarantee* the highest compatibility.
I feel like I’m missing some details, but I’m pretty confident in my comment here. Anyone feel free to correct me/chime in.
Attainted@reddit
For $100 extra I'd go 32gb.
StrawberyVillain@reddit
Dude I have been rocking 16gb on linux for a long time now. 0 issues ever. On windows you need more than 16. On linux I cpuld probably get by with 8.
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
Idk about 8gb lol but hopefully 16gb of ddr5 will suffice
farrellart@reddit
Get as much RAM as you can afford if you are doing 4K game capturing......avoid buying second hand, that's a false economy.
CavillOfRivia@reddit
The big brain takes I've seen on here are unparalleled.
farrellart@reddit
Thanks...:D I do have a masters degree.
With current RAM prices, the secondary market is full of scams - who knows what will arrive in the post. Not worth the risk imo.
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
Ram is expensive, I'm lucky to have found the same brand 16gb ddr5 stick for $100. for $150 I can get a 4k 60 elgato from my local retail store. Elaborate on this false economy.
Overall-Tailor8949@reddit
If you were using Windoze then yes, 32GB is the new minimum for a gaming rig. Since you're running a Linux distro, 16 will be just fine.
HOWEVER, I'd grab that other stick of DDR5 as fast as possible before the seller comes to their senses and HOPE the stick hasn't been fried.
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
I think they're having a hard time selling it.. I talked him down from $125, but he's a far drive from me, and like you said, system ram on linux isn't so necessary, at least for gaming, I'm having a hard time with this lol I havent seen a listing this low so far.
Overall-Tailor8949@reddit
Actually, as tempting as that memory price is since you're getting acceptable performance it might be better to save the gas money since it's a fair drive to get it.
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
Its 40 miles from me, gas prices just went up, and my car takes premium 🥲
Overall-Tailor8949@reddit
Yep, as long as wht you have is working at an acceptable level then I suggest riding with it. On the positive side, memory prices DO seem to be slipping back down. Not nearly as fast as they climbed of course.
_asciimov@reddit
If that stick is similarly spec'd I'd jump on it. Then test it. Then hope that it will run in Expo mode.
Do you need 32 Gigs, no. But it is nice, and hard to beat $100 for that kind of upgrade right now.
Impossible_Union8302@reddit
16gb is genuinely fine for most gaming right now, but some newer titles are starting to push past it, especially if you have a browser open or discord running in the background. i'd grab the second stick sooner rather than later just for the dual channel benefit alone - single channel hurts cpu-bound performance more than people realize, and the 7500x3d is very much a cpu you want fed properly.
Mrcod1997@reddit
Honestly 16 is fine 99% of the time. It's mostly nice for multitasking. It's also something you can always upgrade down the road when ram prices aren't so high.
WaRRioRz0rz@reddit
Just run it, and see how it works for your usage.
Some people don't use their computers for anything else, other than gaming. 16GB would be fine, pushing it, but it'll work. If you do anything else on your computer, like say have 20+ browser tabs open in the background... Then you need to get some more RAM for those extra activities you do.
ContributionOther872@reddit
16gb for budget, 32gb for video editing
quickray2@reddit
16 is minimum - It is fine. But you last (2nd to last) paragraph is a no-brainer. $100 buck is a bargain and I would grab that ASAP as long as it is truly the same.
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
$100 is very good, but only in the current market condition. I'd feel much better paying $60-$80 max, but I doubt anyone would sell a stick for that much now or even in the near future. I don't know if I should buy it just for the sake of getting a good deal though
Action_Man_X@reddit
Are you stuck in 2023 because RAM prices haven't been that low for about a year or two.
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
I just built my first PC so I only know what my friends tell me about pc part pricing before the crisis. I don't feel good about paying over $100 for a stick of ram, especially one that I know someone got in a bundle..
NuclearNick007@reddit
In addition to this OP, make sure the timings and the speed are the same for that second stick for best shot at compatibility.
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
Listed on packaging somewhere? Or do I have to take it home and install it?
NuclearNick007@reddit
They'll usually come with a little white label on them that has the serial number, speed and timings.
Speed is measured in mhz and the timings will start with the letters "CL".
Overall-Tailor8949@reddit
TYo expand a little on the timings. the CL number is the most important, however when you're adding a stick from a non-matched pair ALL of the timing numbers should be the same or close.
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
Thanks fellas 🤝
TheOriginalKrampus@reddit
The single stick of ram is what will hold you back the most.
But you have everything to build, so just do that for now.
If it’s slowing you down then I would recommend to buy another single 16gb stick of the same model (with same frequency and timings). If it comes with Microcenter bundles, then there may be a good chance that someone else who bought the same is selling their own stick on your local used market.
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
Thats where I'm seeing this listing for another 16gb basically, for $100 I could get one now, but you might be right its too soon to really tell if i need it, and maybe pricing will go down later or someone will be selling it for less
whatevers_clever@reddit
>I have to turn on FSR and set it to Quality for something like Expedition 33 (low settings), or RE9 (max settings, RT on high)
Is this bait?
Kooky-Dog-9037@reddit (OP)
?? How
Tribbs_4434@reddit
32gb is the sweet spot imo. I'm still on DDR4 but have had 32gb for years, it's proven to be worthwhile. 16gb will still get you through in most situations, but there have been games (or even wanting to have apps and my browser open at the same time) without having to care about there being an upper limit to system ram usage, I've noticed it going over 16gb. I've found it works out perfectly fine in all situations for my use case, which is pretty normal in the grand scheme of things.
KristusYunasun@reddit
get yourself 32 gb of ddr5 , even if its second hand. 16 min, actually 24 is optimal, dont use 4 sticks of ddr5, motherboards dont work properly with voltage split into 4 ram