I’m running out of gas
Posted by ButOfCourse@reddit | GenX | View on Reddit | 498 comments
I’ll be 56 this summer and have been in my career for 35 years. I work for a fortune 100 and make great money but I’m just not sure how much longer I can do the corporate world. I don’t have enough to retire yet so need to at least get 5 more years out of this and that’s assuming the market doesn’t tank. After 60 I planned to get a much easier job that at least has benefits and do that until 67 but at this point I’m just about out of steam. The corporate world is a complete drain and I’m very unhappy. I just don’t know how long I can do it. Would love to hear from you all to see how you’re coping and what the heck you do at this stage?
Mercury_NYC@reddit
54 here. Good job, good money. Saved up 1.8m in my 401k. NW $2m. I’m very burnt out. I never was someone who felt defined by job, I just went to work like I went to college, just had to finish a day. Would love to retire, but key issue for me is healthcare until Medicare kicks in.
PMismydream24@reddit
The American lament. Im SO READY, but not until 65 for the medical..who can afford to buy on Marketplace? 7 more years..Will i make it where I'm at..not sure..but I'm sucking it up for now
JRemenshneidersHorse@reddit
I quit at 48 and daytrade. It took me years to learn the skill but looking ahead when I was about 40 I knew I didn't want to trade my years for a company that could give a crap about me. I work for a couple hours a day and fill the rest with my interests. Not married, no kids so my path may not apply to you.
aut0po31s1s@reddit
I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony.....
Top-Establishment918@reddit
I was in the same boat at 58. Mentally drained by the corporate madness. Managing 30 people. Completely out of gas. I found a job well beneath my resume. Half the salary. Managing two people. Three days remote. It saved me. I’m 61 now and have recharged and can glide into retirement in two more years. It’s the stress and politics that kill you day in and day out.
genxmom95@reddit
I’m retiring June 30 right before I turn 57. I got a teaching job at a small school starting this fall. I get health insurance. I’m thrilled.
Likinhikin-@reddit
Been remote for a few years.
Don't like my job at all, except I get paid and WFH. Its pretirement gonna be done within 2 years. Its just about how much do I want the number to be. Maxing out 401K and HSA.
00SCT00@reddit
Join r/fire
Miserable_Drop_5398@reddit
If we had reasonable universal healthcare, I would work part time retail and go full-time at the holidays to cover expenses. I am working for the bennies.
Sea-Homework1991@reddit
I retired at 65 (two years earlier than my plan,) because my younger brother was diagnosed with stage IV bladder cancer. I swore I wasn’t going to forego hanging with his as much as I could. He passed 16 months later. Are we rich? No. But I feel better for making the move early.
ensoniq0902@reddit
Same here - in my 60s and need a few more years but struggling to get the motivation going. I plan on retiring to SE Asia which is not as expensive but, man , the current tech environment is a shit show
rgrivera1113@reddit
I’m 53 this later this year and preparing to stop working in Q1 of 2028. You probably won’t need as much as you think you do.
SquirrelBowl@reddit
May I ask your plans? What your portfolio looks like? How low can one go, so to speak? Disregard if I’m asking too much
rgrivera1113@reddit
Depends on how much you spend. I live comfortably on my take home pay and my assets are growing faster than that for the last three years. Right now I’m building up my cash buffer and rebalancing into bonds. In 2028 I’ll be able to trigger the rule of 55 so I’ll have access to my 401k.
I’m not where I want to be but if I lost my job tomorrow I wouldn’t have to go back to work. I’d just go into low spending mode and burn as little as possible for a while.
SquirrelBowl@reddit
Thanks!
Capital-Mark1897@reddit
This is exactly what we did starting three years ago and its worked out. We have cash until 59.5 then starting drawing on our Roth and wait to 67 for SS.
pth@reddit
Wife just retired at 56, I am 58, and the plan is for me to work until my 60th birthday. Primarily to give our youngest (22 last year of a computer engineering program), some runway to establish his own health care.
Sounds good, and I am very well paid working 100% remote, but it is getting harder every day to pretend to even care. Have already told my direct manager, that my only goal is to be a good employee for the next 15 months.
Ready to be retired, been working non stop since 4th grade if you count paper routes, and I am cooked.
kfitz1119@reddit
The paper routes-no wonder everyone’s burned out. I too had a paper route starting in 4th grade. For the Denver Post and then the Rocky Mountain News. I remember I had to go door-to-door to collect the subscription money and the “bonus” for new subscriptions was a 2 L bottle of pop/soda.
GoodLyon09@reddit
I feel this. I was just saying to someone that there should not be age based social security starting points, I’ve worked 45 years already and I still have to do 5 more! I’m done and want a bit of life.
Creative-Mud-7930@reddit
I am close to same age. I been working since I was 12 years old. Like you I had a paper route, cut grass, built fences all before I went to college.
I am cooked. Everyday I wake up I want to quit.
My company has us back 4 days a week. I have 6 or so years I need to work, after that I can find a new job to where I don't care what they pay me. Just for spending money.
GlitteringEvening713@reddit
I am not in corporate but I have to work with them because I am a retail manager. I have much respect for you because I tried working in an office and it got real petty and backstabby real quick. Of course every job has that issue but in a confined office space? I did the work just fine but I could not handle the boredom and weird office politics. I do not know how anybody does it. The only takeaway for me was OMG lock your spreadsheets when in an office environment. 🤣
FionaTheFierce@reddit
Planning to stop or step to very part time at 62 if at all possible (should be possible). I am 56 and I am DONE. Left the corporate job 3 years ago and am self-employed, which is a vast improvement.
I do not understand people who want to work until 70… (want vs need)
FloristanBlue@reddit
What do you do for health insurance? ACA marketplace? Is it somewhat manageable? That’s the only reason I am still working for a company at this point.
FionaTheFierce@reddit
I have coverage through the VA. But otherwise I would buy via the marketplace.
nietheo@reddit
We're paying $1500 a month for a tolerable plan with a high deductible.
SailboatSteve@reddit
Get out of debt and stay out of debt. No, you don't need a brand new car every two years. No, you don't need a new phone every year. No, you don't need a trip to Switzerland every summer. Take a serious look at your finances and realize how much of your spending is on completely unnecessary trinkets. Then, decide if you'd rather remain a burn out, wasting the best years you have left slaving away at a job you hate JUST so you can keep paying the bills on all the crap you don't need, or if you'd rather pare down your lifestyle to one you can afford RIGHT NOW.
I did this analysis on myself ten years ago. I've been semi-retired now for 5. I'm 52. My house is paid for. My cars are paid for. I have zero debt. I work 3 days a week at a no brainer job that's fun and gives me a reason to get out of bed. It pays chump change, but chump change is all I need to fill my gas tank and take my wife out to dinner. Our investments (much less than I had originally planned) pay the bills, which are few.
'Needing" to work 5 more years is an artificial construct you've boxed yourself into. You only need to work until you can afford to retire in a lifestyle you've imagined for yourself. Change that vision slightly and the entire calculus of how much more you need changes with it.
People say, "Time is money," but it isn't. Time is vastly more valuable. Trading your limited remaining time for a few more new iphones is a tragedy.
More_Ship_190@reddit
This. I am 53 and agree 💯. No way am I working 7 more years.
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
I don't know, I watched a lot of my peers' fathers drop dead after retiring. Think I'll semi-retire so I don't suddenly have nothing to do and nowhere to be.
ConcertinaTerpsichor@reddit
I hate to say this but I’m just not sure how the job market will treat you at age 60. I have more than a couple of (educated, very competent) friends who are in dire need of even small jobs, and they are doing things like cashiering at groceries. Honestly I would stick it out and sock it away as long as I could. 😔
Substantial-Use-1758@reddit
Ageism is real and thriving 😬🤷♀️
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
Ageism kicks in at 45-50, too. There's no greater insult to an X'r than to be lumped in with the Boomers.
Certain-Criticism-51@reddit
Absolutely. Finished a masters at 52 and couldn't get even an interview for anything paying more than $35,000. Everything I applied to literally went to someone half my age.
I am stuck. Very low COL area with a cheap mortage, but I will work until 65 to pay off house and furnace. And by then my car will be dead, so I feel hopeless. Ugh.
ConcertinaTerpsichor@reddit
Well, honestly, I CAN understand how a hiring manager would like to believe they are hiring a younger employee who will stick around for a long time, but I think that expectation is now unrealistic and unlikely given how poorly many employers treat their employees. Commitment is not a thing of the present moment.
kat2211@reddit
Honestly, I just said fuck it. I had a pretty good paralegal career going, (although I switched jobs a lot) but I just got to the point to where I couldn't do it anymore. The thought of spending another nine years in an office until I reached full retirement age just made me sick.
Now I just do a bunch of gig work doing random stuff, with no benefits (although I get discounted health insurance through ACA). Didn't really have any savings to begin with and now I have even less. But I work entirely from home, I don't have anybody's boot on my throat, I'm working on a novel, and I'm happier and less stressed than I've been in ages.
UncleFlip@reddit
Curious about what type of gig work you do, if you don't mind sharing.
kat2211@reddit
The main thing is AI Training, also started doing surveys (can actually make enough to cover groceries and utilities just doing that, and it's super easy), and I do some eBay as well.
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
I started down this path but then suddenly the Hagen-Sinclair people stopped using me. If you don't mind sharing who do you do this for where it's regular money?
UncleFlip@reddit
Thanks for replying
I've done surveys on mturk back in the day
20twenty20@reddit
What’s the novel about?
kat2211@reddit
Very broadly speaking, it's literary sci-fi.
Prudent_Trainer_573@reddit
Same boat man. I am 50. So sick of having AI rammed down our throats. I need to work for another 10 years at least. I’m certain I will not make it . I wish I could just cut grass for a living . Anything which has immediate and measurable results. I don’t even know what I accomplish at work anymore. It seems everyone is just playing a part in a play. All BS.
funlovefun37@reddit
I think part of the answer depends upon why you’re running out of gas. Mental or physical health would HOA different decision making path than being bored or “tired of the bs”.
I would suggest a few things:
Take a seriously long vacation.
Prioritize more work/life balance.
Invest in a subscription to WealthTrace to play around with financial scenarios. Get incredibly familiar with the consequences dialing assumptions by just a little bit. They can be good or bad consequences. My point is, understanding the sensitivity analysis is critical.
There are two things I can share about finances in retirement.
1) Sequence of returns is critical. Essentially, there will be a bear market at some point. Earlier in retirement can be devastating.
2) every additional year of work makes a big difference. But so does reducing how much you need to take out because you’re working part time.
I hope you can find a way to use the vacation to get back into a space that makes a few more years tolerable.
Rosatos_Hotel@reddit
Where will you work at 60? Ageism is a thing.
jmg733mpls@reddit
I’m 60 and really freaked out about this. It’s super real, and even more real for women. Like, if I lose my job in tech today, will the next place hire a 50 year old woman?
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
My wife is in legal tech. They are only looking at people with a lot of experience right now.
jmg733mpls@reddit
Sorry, but I’m going to push back on that. AI is making people’s experiences less and less important. I’m being forced to use AI on a task that I can get done twice as fast and with better accuracy. But no one cares because companies are so deathly scared of being behind the AI wave.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
My wife is using Harvey AI for her job. It helps her. They are only hiring people with over ten years experience and are passing on college graduates. She works for one of the biggest law firms in the world. The cases she works on are pretty much with only the biggest corporations in existence.
AI has hallucinations. AI has even told me that recently when I was asking about prescription lenses. “I’m sorry I may have been hallucinating.” What?! AI also lies! My wife was telling me about a situation where the AI lied and everyone was aware of it.
There is no way they will allow AI for any litigation. However it is a valuable tool for assisting in e-discovery for ligation. Her job should be safe until she retires around 2029. Then she can work because she wants to.
jmg733mpls@reddit
AI is absolute garbage, especially generative AI. It will ruin the world and I encourage everyone to stop pretending it won’t.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
AI is both garbage and wonderful. I agree it could ruin the world but it’s too late now. Can’t put the genie back in the bottle.
jmg733mpls@reddit
It’s not wonderful at all. And saying it cannot be stopped is telling the world to bend over and take it even if you don’t like it. And I refuse to let my community suffer with air, noise and water pollution (and lack of water and astronomically high power bills) because your wife can shave off 15 minutes from her day. Fuck that. It needs to be stopped.
retired_degenerate@reddit
It all depends on where you're sitting.
I invested heavily in AI in the months before ChatGTP came out, and now it's saving me 40 hours per week without even actively using it.
jmg733mpls@reddit
If you sit deep in the AI camp it’s because you’re either making money off it or you lack moral and ethical values and just DGAF about anything.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
What about the incredible medical breakthroughs AI is helping with? You’re an activist? Great. I am not. Good luck.
jmg733mpls@reddit
That use of AI does not require hundreds of square miles of data centers to work.
I’m not an activist. I’m a person who cares about my neighborhood, my city, and my state. I guess you’re not. Good luck when the water dries up.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
My water will never dry up. I live next to Lake Michigan.
jmg733mpls@reddit
Cool! I live next to the he Mississippi and Lake Superior isn’t that far from me, and I am STILL concerned.
You sure you’re in the right sub? Because what you’re showing is Boomer mentality. If it doesn’t affect you directly you don’t care, right?
Some of us are worried about future generations. That includes ending the square miles of data centers using all the water and taking up farmland and polluting the air and making it unbearable to live next to them.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
Don’t start gatekeeping with saying I have Boomer mentality as if you are special or that they didn’t do great things. I happen to like Boomers. You are flawed too. I don’t worry about the same things you do. I don’t need nor want the added stress. I have more important things to me to worry about.
jmg733mpls@reddit
You’re not using the term “gatekeep” correctly.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
Don’t worry about the water running out. You can easily power an AI data center with your tears.
jmg733mpls@reddit
Ok, Boomer.
retired_degenerate@reddit
New data centers are largely going in areas where the people overwhelmingly supported and voted for the politicians and policies that opened the door to bring these data centers in.
Not my fault they didn't fully understand the consequences of their votes.
jmg733mpls@reddit
jmg733mpls@reddit
Captain Planet didn’t raise me to support data centers.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
What’s a data center?
jmg733mpls@reddit
Waste someone’s else’s time. I’m not giving you any of mine.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
🤣 Easy
jmg733mpls@reddit
So you’re sitting back and letting your community be destroyed while not even using it. Cool cool cool. Let me guess, you’re also male?
retired_degenerate@reddit
I'm an old middle-class tech worker that saw the writing on the wall. AI was going to take my job at the absolute wrong time, so I heavily invested in it. By doing this, I eliminated my risk of being displaced in the workforce, left on my own terms, and set my family up for life. And when I say for life, I don't mean luxury cars, exotic vacations, second homes, etc. It means my kids aren't going to have student loans. It means instead of buying 4 year-old used cars, it's now 2 year-old cars.
AI is eating jobs in my field as I type this. I'm not going to apologize for reading the situation correctly.
jmg733mpls@reddit
🤦🏻♀️
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
Not in every industry. Not in sales and not in legal.
Rosatos_Hotel@reddit
Had a convo w/ a CEO friend about this recently. It's very real in legal.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
For the doc review attorneys, yes. They are being let go due to AI. Not for the ediscovery people like my wife. They need her as much as ever. But she only needs a few more years until she switches to working because she wants to.
StrummerBass101@reddit
I’m calculating how long the wife and I could live in Thailand if we sold everything and bolted
kapdad@reddit
We're setting up an "80's" community somewhere everyone can cash out and come live comfortably at for the rest of their time, doing all the things they did in the '80s when we were free.
funlovefun37@reddit
Ohhh I think I’d like this!
BoredITPro@reddit
55 and I feel the same. I don’t think I can do corporate America anymore.
snaddysook@reddit
Im leaving my lifelong career after 35 years. Can't do it anymore. I will still have to work- but doing something different.
SackBadger2024@reddit
I'm also 56 with 35 years under my belt in the same industry. I have been bored , then i decided to pick up all the unwanted projects and thankless responsibilities I could to keep me busy. Funny enough I have now turned into the Swiss Army Knife employee who can be used for anything. I get all of the "we don't exactly know how to do this" projects and I am no longer bored. I had to go just make shit happen, otherwise I would just freak out.
My goal at retirement is to be the garden center guy at Home Depot or Lowes who just knows things and can help with anything. Build a solid legend up.
dcmfox@reddit
Same with me in Medellin, reitired, but people don't know how to fix shit anymore..I enjoy it, or creative solutions to make something work a bit easier
tomtom67TX@reddit
59, my plan is an Airstream and become a seasonal worker while running my business which I can do from anywhere with internet. National Parks, etc. Be a trail guide, work the gate, drive a bus. First we are going to sell everything and traipse around the planet for a year or two. Son's a pilot so we get cheap airfare.
Neat_Ad4712@reddit
Best attitude here in ages! Especially love your possible garden center postlude. 🪴
Substantial_Lion965@reddit
I've been seriously considering it
dcmfox@reddit
I sold my house got rid of everything but clothes and Moved to Medellin, Colombia
20twenty20@reddit
Nice. Do you speak Spanish? How’s things now?
dcmfox@reddit
LOL, no, I rely on the computer translator..I have a few friends, and its nice to help people here.
I prefer the USA, but with the healthcare costs and such its not doable.
Some food items I can't find anywhere, like sharp cheddar cheese, but oh well.
It's been 4 years
mecanmewill@reddit
I’m 56. I hit a wall in 2024 after 25yrs in my industry (exec sales leadership in fortune 100). Took a 14mo sabbatical. Took an entry level job with what I thought was my dream org (although not sales) for benefits and discounts. It was harder than I expected, to not be in a leadership position with control and/or influence, plus no PTO to enjoy the perks. Determined I needed to be all or nothing……so I fully retired earlier this year. On Cobra now and will figure out healthcare after that runs out. Managing my expenses and couldn’t be happier.
Geenpools@reddit
58F I was laid off six months ago from Faang life. I’m still burnt out. I can’t retire, and am really not sure what to do. Was a recruiter and there are bazillion unemployed recruiter running around.
LeoGuy69us@reddit
I completely relate. I'm 3-4 years away from 'the number' we need to retire. But this year has been more expensive than expected so might have to add 6 months. I'm just taking it a day at a time. Trying to keep excited about the work, or at least interested. But it is hard. Hang in there. Don't make any rash decisions. Do what's right for your future. That's what I'm telling myself too.
You'll make it soon. Aft 35 years a few more will fly by.
Feeling_Proposal_350@reddit
60 and a teacher. Totally out of gas, never mail it in, will crawl to 65 for Medicare. At this point I really honestly do hate the students. Middle schoolers are the worst and students are so out of hand it would make you puke. People don't how how terrible it is to be in the classroom anymore.
cheesefubar0@reddit
I have some friends that are high school teachers and their stories are truly unbelievable.
Agreeable_Hall458@reddit
Strongly considering becoming a beach bum for the same reasons. Corporate life for 30 years, still don’t have enough to retire on. Can’t make myself care anymore. Let the AI overlords take it all and just let me sit on a beach somewhere.
New_Needleworker_473@reddit
Take more time off using your PTO. I just scheduled two 10 day vacations plus one or two days off per week for the entire summer. It's all been approved. I still have like 5 months left of PTO too. I just realized I take work too seriously and if I going to make it to ever moving target of retirement, I need to have more down time and less grind time. Also I have a meditation sign and I hang it on my office door so I can take a nap...I mean meditate.
drumbo10@reddit
I’m out of gas now, 56 and been on a payroll into SS since 1980 doing the family business thing that failed in 2006, just doing it for other companies. It seems as if no one these days knows much if anything about HVAC.
salinungatha@reddit
Totally get you and I'm in a similar space. My energy ideas:
If you're not already fit, strong, lean and eating clean - do that and don't be afraid to use GLP1 and/or a trainer. I'm in the middle of this and energy getting a lot better.
Get your testosterone levels checked and consider getting TRT. A lot of men report massive energy uplifts. I haven't done this yet but will definitely consider once I'm lean.
Consider experimenting with supplements. NMN made a huge difference for me.
Decreasing energy is a natural consequence of aging. Modern chemistry already works against us (food scientists hacking our pleasure centers). Maybe see if modern chemistry can work for you too.
hopstop5000@reddit
Agree with the TRT comment. A shot in the ass twice a week has made a world of difference. My levels were of a 70+ year old and I’m 50. Big energy boost and a hard on I forgot was possible to have.
PezCandyAndy@reddit
I've been burnt out for over 10 years. I worked at a fortune 300 corporation. Upper management pushed out my prior amazing boss and his replacement turned the job into a nightmare. He called us and anything before him as 'legacy' with a slight sneer on his face or in his voice. Every two legacy employees that quit or were fired were replaced with one cheaper college grad. We had fewer employees to do the work and also lost experience, working knowledge, and skill. The new-hires were given a very light workload and legacy employees were required to make up all the difference. The quality of our work inevitably suffered as a result.
Evil boss mentioned he was only there for the title and planned to move on after a few years. It was practically guaranteed to get better so some of us tried to stick it out. But the boss pushed even harder which caused us to make more (generally small and inconsequential) mistakes. That created enough ammo to put us on a PIP, then pushed us even harder which then allowed him to fire us. One of our coworkers found out years later that evil boss does this so he can 'legitimately' fire those he doesn't hire or like.
Life kicked me in the ass a few times after that in other ways. I was once a hard working 'eager beaver' but I am on empty and barely hanging on these days. Unless a few investments pull through, I am kind of stuck working until I croak at my desk.
20twenty20@reddit
I’ve seen this movie before. You have my sympathies
Available_Blood_6134@reddit
This story is much more common that most people think. I know 3 different companies doing the same thing right now, all billion dollar + per yr type employers. It seems like they all took the same course on how to run a company into the ground and eject just before impact.
KingPabloo@reddit
Retired at 53 and highly recommend it
Physical_Ad5135@reddit
58 and I would like to retire this year but my spouse is worried it is too early and I will be bored. What are you doing to keep busy?
KingPabloo@reddit
I’m really into my workouts and running, in much better shape now. I just finished the first draft of my first novel and will be learning how to edit it. I’ve also gotten into music for the first time and have produced enough quality songs to now learn mixing/mastering so I can put out an album. I plan to release both on my 60th birthday.
So much to do now!
Physical_Ad5135@reddit
Wow! A novel!!!!
_cob_@reddit
Focus on hobbies and keeping yourself busy.
Backieotamy@reddit
Im with you. 52, working per my SS report straight since I was 14 (acrually 12 with my paper routes) spent most the 90's in the Army and in Tech since 2000 where I now make pretty darn good money. I find it hard, even selfish and first world or a luxury to complain about it but otherwise in the exact same boat as you. You are not alone, I am 1 day - 5 years away from selling everything, cashing out 401K and buying land and a small homestead and do my best to just survive with a handful of animals and my best attempt at growing food until I die whether it be the next year or 25 from now. So very burnt but just putting one foot in front of the other for as long as I can because every $25 I put aside is one more day in the mountains.
FunnyChampionship717@reddit
I'm in the exact same boat. After 27 years of navigating corporate politics, layoffs, and the general daily grind, I’m feeling it. If I had kept my spending in check, I could have walked away at 60. Instead, I’m staring down the barrel of 65.
My game plan now is to hold out for as long as I can stomach, then shift into semi-retirement doing low-stress odd jobs. I don't have quite enough to stop working entirely, but I have a solid enough safety net to step back.
Honestly, I’m genuinely looking forward to clocking into a simpler job one day. No high-stakes decisions, no pointless meetings, no glorified babysitting, and zero HR platitudes. Just punch in, punch out. One day...
Hey_Hi_Its_A_Guy@reddit
Sativa strains help
jazzchamp@reddit
Be grateful. You could be in my position. Same age. Laid off. Don't have enough to retire and can't can't find a job because of age and the current job market - particularly in tech. 🫤
CodenameZoya@reddit
I just went through this, unemployed for 10 months, same age as OP, I finally took a job that paid about 2/3 what I made before. Then the price of everything skyrocketed and at this age, I’m scrambling which really sucks. I really hope you find something great soon.
Sir_Magus_Canada@reddit
Seven months for me after two years of unstable jobs which really sucked. I used to be in tech, now I work in a factory, which honestly isn't all that bad but the pay is definitely lower. It's really tough out there.
electronraven@reddit
I left tech for a factory job too. I wish the money were better but I'm not anywhere as anxious as I was in my "real" job.
jazzchamp@reddit
Appreciate this kind internet friend. Can be very disheartening.
Altruistic-Part6071@reddit
I'm 54. I don't make as much as you. How to retire quicker..? Get a smaller house, a cheaper car, cheaper holidays, clothes, food, etc...
Stop spending so much money on frivolous stuff.
I have a hard, manual job outdoors in all weathers. People who work in nice climate controlled offices should give it a try sometimes.
MeowMeowCollyer@reddit
Or better, rent your house out, retire to the south of France, living off the rental passive income.
Incognito4771@reddit
You sound like my ex who was a contractor and said I didn’t work because I had an office job (which paid a consistent wage and provided health insurance for all of us so that he didn’t have to get a job that required him to answer to anyone else).
Tradesmen and people who work in offices are all needed to make the world run, so maybe don’t demean either role.
Altruistic-Part6071@reddit
I worked in an office for 20 years, in design. You're lucky if I had to work 75% of my time, in a nice, dry, warm office, in a nice comfortable chair, with a desk, dual monitors, cups of tea, or toilet breaks anytime I wanted.
Working outdoors, in the freezing winter, in freezing rain, while working at height, and guess what..? You can't quite until the job's done.
Office work if 50% at least less taxing than the alternative.
MeowMeowCollyer@reddit
I ran out of copping skills working in a Fortune 100 and flew the coop at 51. That was nine years ago. I’m still recovering.
In other world, get the fuck out while there’s a shred of humanity left in you.
WillieDoggg@reddit
I ran out and gas and couldn’t play the game any longer in my mid 40’s.
I thought about quitting and trying something less soul crushing, but figured I’d see what would happen if I relaxed and stopped trying while saving extra for retirement.
What’s the worst thing that could happen? I lose a painful job that I want to quit anyways?
I was surprised how difficult it was to be fired. Sure they might RIF me under other official reasons…but then I’d get unemployment while looking for something else.
You really kinda have to be a mess to be officially fired for cause. I kept pushing it further and further and was never fired. I even told them the truth…yeah, not as passionate anymore and want a better work/life balance.
It lasted years. All the way until I saved enough to actually retire.
RedOwl97@reddit
I was feeling that way but then my doctor checked my hormone levels at my annual physical. My free Testosterone was nearly zero. Once that got fixed I felt much better.
Grunge4U@reddit
Did you opt for a medication to get your body to increase testosterone or a testosterone therapy such as the topical or injection? How long before you noticed a difference?
RedOwl97@reddit
The former. I took the meds for six weeks with no noticeable change - then one day it was like someone flipped on a light in a dark room.
Grunge4U@reddit
That's great to hear , can I ask what medication? I started Clomid just to over a week ago and I haven't noticed any kind of change yet , but they told me it could take 4 weeks or so to notice a change. I like the idea of getting my body to do what it's supposed to do much more so than taking the testosterone therapy , which makes your body stop producing testosterone.
RedOwl97@reddit
I take Clomid. My doc recommended it over TRT because it would be easier to go off it if I had a bad reaction.
HG_Tannhaus_@reddit
Not OP. But I do injections, effects were immediate. That first week I felt like a teenager.
Grunge4U@reddit
I just had 2 tests that showed I was low and started taking a medication that should make my body produce more testosterone instead of using a testosterone therapy which sounded better for me if it works. I'm only a week into it now and haven't really noticed much of a change but my dr. did tell me it would take up to 4 weeks to notice much.
Professional_Sky9993@reddit
Very close in the same age as you and nearly the same boat. One word: tobacco.
Jokerchyld@reddit
Wait... you can retire?
Ill be working until I fall dead.
Twitch-Weasel-51@reddit
Same.
innerearinfarction@reddit
What's a retire? Is that when your old tires get new treads
MaleficentExtent1777@reddit
It is for ME 😞
Objective_Joke_5023@reddit
I’m 60 and plan to work at least two more years, when my pension will be at maximum monthly benefits. I’ll stay a few years longer if I’m still enjoying the work and the coworkers, which as of today I still do. I might also go part time because I’d be able to draw my pension with my same employer as long as I’m not working fulltime for them. Or I can draw my pension and work part or full time elsewhere.
Twitch-Weasel-51@reddit
I feel your struggle and honestly, I have no advice for coping. I have been working since I was 14. Never had more than a week between jobs and I AM TIRED. I am honestly a wee bitter that my parents and inlaws have enjoyed retirement more years than they worked with generous pensions, yet here I am on year 43 of the grind. Unfortunately, I made some dumb choices as a rebellious young Gen-X'er and am now solidly entrenched in a very stable, yet dull, unfulfilling job that pays just enough to keep us going and staring down a very spartan retirement if and when we ever get to actually jump off the hamster wheel. Choose some joy now while we can still appreciate it, or cling to our pennies in hopes that we stay healthy enough in our 80's to enjoy it?
annarbor-guy@reddit
I was 59 when I had enough. Switched companies, still in tech, made it clear in the interview I just wanted to do analysis and code if necessary. Hate paperwork and budgets. Didn’t want to move up the “corporate ladder”. Ended up staying 7 years, the last 4 working at home.
Desperate-Emu1296@reddit
60 years old here laid off for the second time last September and still not working. The job market is absolutely horrendous right now so if you have a good job and making decent money, you need to suck it up and hang in there a little while longer.
I’m also trying just to get a job with some kind of benefits and that has not been successful. Job competition is off the charts, employers have their pick of whoever they want. You are also competing with people who are 30 years younger than you so age is definitely a strike against you. My only advice would be to save save save$$$. That is what is keeping me afloat right now, my unemployment ran out in March and I am purely living off of savings.
CodenameZoya@reddit
I just went through this, I hope you find something soon. It’s terrifying.
jazzchamp@reddit
This story sounds familiar...
Sorry. I'm with you bud.
BigFootCrossingGaurd@reddit
Just know that you aren’t alone. I am 57 and feel the exact same way. I need to make it to 62 before I retire, and I dread having to work another five years. But my pension plan gives me a 10 percent bump when I turn 62 and there’s no way in hell I put up with all of this BS to miss out on that. Afterwards, I am hoping to consult three days a week part time for a few years, unless my wife gets a promotion at her job.
jazzchamp@reddit
You'll be let go prior to them being obligated to give you that 10%.
Sorry. Just sour grapes at the entirety of the American work experience. I do hope I'm wrong.
Equivalent_Vast_1717@reddit
You’ve been there 35 years and you have about 5 years “need to fulfill” - I’m sure you can hang in a little longer.
You just probably need to also preoccupy yourself with a little bit more socializing and relaxing to while your time and distract yourself.
IronBallsMcChing@reddit
Late 50s and making great $$? Go buy some real estate and make passive income. I did. Haven't looked back.
IDunnoReallyIDont@reddit
Some people don’t want the headaches of tenants.
IronBallsMcChing@reddit
Agreed. But the benefits outweigh the negatives. It's a matter of knowledge and education to reduce the stress of tenants. It's been worth it for me.
walter_grimsley@reddit
Not enough people realize what a nightmare a bad tenant can be
SheriffBartholomew@reddit
Yeah, I've been thinking about trying to buy a business or something. Some sort of AI immune business.
Electrical_Report458@reddit
Sounds like it’s time to pivot. Will your company give you a sabbatical? Can you finagle a “sabbatical” via FMLA? If you’re in a Fortune 100 could you pursue an individual contributor position in a different country or a business unit?
I reach the same point by the time I hit 40 and completely empathize.
cholaw@reddit
35 years on the same job???? Retire already and work somewhere that makes you happy. That's ✌🏾checks
Maybe_Later14@reddit
Accomplished_Care415@reddit
Time for a change of pace. Go warehouse. Crazy things always happen in a warehouse. Sucks just the same but you can do fun stuff.
Thefutureisbrightino@reddit
53 and I’m done. Can’t work with people both up and down that have misaligned values.
latitudechanges1515@reddit
At 50 I ran out of steam. Downsized considerably. Sold the house and live on much less. Happier than I have ever been. Paying out of pocket for health insurance sucks but sucks way less than the corporate drain. Hang in there.
ContributionTall969@reddit
Hang in there champ. Make an exit strategy and type your resignation letter and keep it in your desk / on your computer - don’t turn it in yet!
Let that marinate knowing that you are willing to pull the plug and there is a chance that you’ll feel a little bit of empowerment. You’re in control - you are choosing to do this, or not to do it, and you are prepared either way.
esizzle@reddit
My scenario looks a lot like yours. Also 56. Keeping current gig for a bit but also wondering if I have enough steam. Happy path looks like - some form of regular work until around early 60's, then maybe part time. Try to hold off on collecting Social Security until 67, though that may be a stretch.
Mainly trying to keep in good health by going to gym and trying to stay sane by taking it one day at a time. (Stop me if you've heard this before :).
Best wishes fellow traveller.
PegShop@reddit
One week before my 56th birthday I retired early from my teaching job of 32 years. Now I am doing part-time and per diem work while collecting my pension. My husband worked for a big company doing food and facilities management and was working 60 hour weeks. He just took a job at about a quarter of the pay working for a school doing their food. Having summers off and being done with work by 1 o’clock is a great step down for him.
In order to afford this, we sold our home and our closing on a townhouse which we can buy with just the proceeds of our house sale. That isn’t for everyone.
mtcwby@reddit
Almost 61 with another 4 years to go. Whenever the job slides into annoying I will double down on my outside interests. The job then becomes something to get through and it helps me keep life balanced. Just need to get through it.
AuntieMRocks@reddit
First I planned to work till 70 because my work (nonprofit) was so meaningful to me and I was still having fun.
Then I decided to shoot for 67 to get my full SocSec payment. After all, I still wanted to have some fun outside of work before age weighed me down.
Then I looked at my retirement accounts and overall finances, and realized once I'm eligible for Medicare at 65, retirement would be doable. A little less $$$ but more precious time to chill.
Then my husband was diagnosed with dementia and I had to retire at 60 to care for him. 45 years in the workforce, over just like that. We've always lived below our means so we're okay for the moment. Plus hubby's condition is connected to his military service so the VA is helping us. Now I'm looking forward to 62 so I can claim SocSec and have an income again.
The moral of my story: whatever your retirement plan, keep it loose and be open to change because life is full of curveballs.
walter_grimsley@reddit
Very valid take. Im sorry about your husband. Man plans, God laughs
AuntieMRocks@reddit
Ain't that the truth!
CaliJaneBeyotch@reddit
When I worked in a hospital I met so many patients that had experienced sudden retirement due to health issues. Excellent advice to keep plans loose.
jacklogan2972@reddit
55 is doable with 401k rule of 55. Probably wait until 57. Have replaced my income so far this year with options trading. Need to prove this out for a year or 2.
razorchef@reddit
Are any of you married?
drinkandreddit@reddit
I got layed off last month at 50. Going to use my severance to get into online arbitrage.
OkIce4710@reddit
Either_Top_9634@reddit
It’s so me as well. Let’s the younger kids do it.
DeadCatBounce00@reddit
This is me too, quiet quitting, zero fuks given nowdays.
JYoForReal@reddit
💯
Defiant-Rabbit-7599@reddit
This is me.
spartycbus@reddit
I'm 53 and feel this so deeply. My current position is possibly going away and I'm applying for all these other internal positions, and I don't actually want to do any of them. But I don't have nearly enough money to bail. Plus I have a pension and would be leaving a lot of money on the table (should I get lucky and live a long time).
Far_Anything_7458@reddit
I'm waiting on the sale of my business and building to go through (we are waiting on a new survey of the property--the most recent one was reeeaaallyy old). Then I am done. I don't go up to the business much anymore, allowing the person who is buying it (a very long time employee who loves the business) run things for the most part. I still handle the money.
OpinionatedMisery@reddit
I quit my job in March. I had enough in my savings and people outside the US do this all the time. I do plan to go back to work by the fall but I couldn't do it anymore.
MasChingonNoHay@reddit
Take a two week vacation
Capital-Mark1897@reddit
It took me 7 months of not working to start to feel lighter. 2 weeks is just an itty bitty bandage.
MrAl-67@reddit
I retired at 58. I don’t have much, but my body was telling its time. I have lost 24 lbs, and feel so much better.
If you can’t live in the west, take a look at alternative countries with a lower cost of living.
No one knows how long you have left, and I didn’t want to have zero time of enjoyment after working for almost 40 years.
Capital-Mark1897@reddit
Me too. Retired at 57 with enough to be comfortable but not to comfortable. It will be a year this July and I ha e no regrets.
devildoc8804hmcs@reddit
I felt the same way as you. I also felt handcuffed by the salary. In a conversation with my doctor explaining that she said "Yeah, keep going. Your family can enjoy the fruits of you labor and sacrifice long after your funeral which will be sooner rather than later". I stewed on that for a couple weeks and took an early retirement. Best decision ever. Without the constant stress, long hours, little sleep and travel for work all the time I started feeling better. Virtually no stress unless driving in traffic. I sleep better. Have more time for exercise. Traveling is now fun.
Defiant-Rabbit-7599@reddit
I’m in the marinating phase of this.
palmoyas@reddit
What did you do for healthcare insurance (assuming you are in the US)?
akajondo@reddit
I feel ya.
Odd-Candidate-9235@reddit
If you make great money yet can’t retire until 67 you need to look at your spending.
Jokerchyld@reddit
Life isnt that simple, though I wish it was.
I appreciate where you were coming from for this
RAWR_Orree@reddit
That's fair, at least to a degree. Some of us are still helping our adult children pay off student loans and pay rent and such because the job market is so bad. One doesn't have to live an extravagant lifestyle to still have retirement pushed back.
ButOfCourse@reddit (OP)
To be clear I haven’t always made this much but I’m aggressively saving now
Silvermouse5150@reddit
He can retire at 62 and receive reduced benefits. Or even start drawing from retirement accounts at 59 1/2. But no Medicaid until 65, so that will affect his decision.
phenolate@reddit
I love being a chemist and farting around in my lab!
squatmama69@reddit
Thissssss
Brs76@reddit
What i was thinking
OkIce4710@reddit
Iko87iko@reddit
Just started a new job at a like company. 59. Im grateful for the opportunity, but man
Jacmac_@reddit
I retired at 59, not burned out, just bored of the work. Hang in there and make sure you feel confident in your savings and retirement plan. My wife and I worked with a planner when I turned about 55, and we saved as much as we could to make retirement a no-brainer.
RemarkableMarzipan23@reddit
4 more years and I can retire from my teaching job at 55.
abstractraj@reddit
I’m 54, trying to get my ducks in a row. I’m fairly sure the math will make sense by 59.5, but I don’t hate my job so I’ll just see how I feel. I think if we’re at $4mil retirement savings between me and my wife, we will be ok
Resident-Wind-853@reddit
Unless you live in a very high cost of living area, that should be quite a bit to live very well especially if you’ve got your mortgage paid off.
abstractraj@reddit
Well our household income is $400k, so we wouldn’t want to back off from what we do today. Also the house and pool are not paid off yet. All that said, the $4mil number is an abundance of caution. I think we should be fine
MisplacedLonghorn@reddit
One year younger and every bit as burned out. Laid off in December for 3rd time since February 2019. Just done but need to stick it out to 59.5 when I can tap the 401K and the mortgage is paid off. I am actively looking. My wallet is in it but my heart is not.
greg9x@reddit
If your plan has the Rule of 55 you can access 401k from the company you leave if fired or quit. There are other ways to access without penalty before 59.5 also.
OP and others, persue the FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) subreddits, although bit late in the game now, lots of discussions on how to save and make a plan to get out early .
cool_side_of_pillow@reddit
51F and also burned out. Work in tech. It’s all AI all the time and the hustle to stay relevant via LinkedIn is exhausting. I can’t let my hair go grey because of ageism and I’ve gained significant weight in perimenopause and am now basically invisible. Like totally invisible.
I have a big(ish) team of direct reports that I worry I’m letting down.
All I want to do is take walks and practice yoga and read good books in a rocking chair while sitting in a screened-in porch listening to a summer storm.
Alas we still have an elementary school aged kiddo (who is my world) and 10 years of the grind ahead of us.
I’m tired. I hear you.
Sepa-Kingdom@reddit
I’m told that you do get through peri and meno a that things are much better on the other side. I’m 5 years in and counting. I really hope my older friends are right!
Virtual-Economy-1323@reddit
I feel this, sister. Corporate standards make it difficult to remain relevant as a woman ages. And we are just as intelligent, even wiser than before. I get pissed at being ignored or made to feel small. Don’t be diminished! Do not let others ignore you. And find that peaceful, natural setting that you desire as often as possible to recharge. Be an example to your kid of a person who values herself.
PollutionZero@reddit
Shit, I'm only 50, work in IT and Work from Home.
I'm burning out too. I would LOVE to go back to restaurant work, working the line as a cook (I was originally a chef) but that shit doesn't pay the bills.
My plan is to work until I can ALMOST retire, then go get a job across the street flippin' burgers at the Chicago Deli/bar. Or maybe open a food truck and sell pretzels to drunks in the bar areas of town.
Problem now is, due to (waves around and indicates EVERYTHING) I got like jack shit in our combined 401k's and the only hope we'll have to a decent retirement is if my in-laws die soon and leave us all their money/property (they were doctors and own a fuck-ton of farmland in WI/MN). FiL will probably go soon, MiL will probably live to be 150. So yeah.
prudent__sound@reddit
Isn't it crazy that life feels so stressful and insecure that we find ourselves holding out for an inheritance? Not wishing for our relatives to die per se...but thinking a lot about the timing of their deaths. It's kind of taboo to talk about, but I won't deny I think about it.
PollutionZero@reddit
I'll say that my folks pissed away all the money they had saved to the day they died. I ended up with $8k from the foreclosure/tax sale from my mom's house (Sold for $8k more than the tax burden). My dad had a few hundred thousand, but fucking squandered it on bad business decisions, moving states just to move, and moving back because why the fuck would you move without a reason? I didn't even get his watch or pocket knife when he died. Step Mom got all that....
At least her folks have a few mil squirreled away in property and savings/stocks. With "luck" they'll die before it's all gone and she and I can actually stop working before we're 80.
But yeah, every time we started to get ahead, we got shafted. I had to empty my 401k three times already, thanks to downturns/emergencies/financial crises'....
gottaeatnow@reddit
Every year that passes I get two years closer to retirement.
51 years old and a lawyer since my 25th birthday. I’m exhausted. I appreciate my clients and enjoy the money but it’s so hard to keep bringing the same energy to work. I’m not ready to retire yet, but I’m cutting back my hours and I’m going to take a sabbatical soon.
chamrockblarneystone@reddit
I’m 59 but I retired at 57. I’m a teacher, always will be, but COVID and post COVID killed me. I retired at 30, but had planned on going longer
Here’s the thing. I’m retired but I’m still tired. I’m wondering if there’s not a shot or something I/we can get to at least help with the exhausted feeling?
gottaeatnow@reddit
Energy levels are going down for sure. I’m really focused on diet, exercise, and sleep.
1929tsunami@reddit
Perhaps consider moving to a low cost of living country with affordable health care. Maybe even work a bit remotely?
CorsairExtraordinair@reddit
Same age OP. I'm just trying my best to keep showing up. I need 10 more years!!
I make good money, have a good career, but am burned out. Been doing this for 25+ years now.
icthruu74@reddit
I’m with you. I’d always planned to be in a position to be able to go part time or work a less stressful job at 55. I’m almost on track, but the kicker was starting to have health issues and realizing that I will be working until 65 just so we can have health insurance until we get Medicare.
Any-Neighborhood98@reddit
53 year old freelancer with a small child. Still a lot of mortgage. I need to work til I drop basically ... but AI and tectonic changes in my industry means I could be unemployed shortly. Some savings, some pension, but not nearly enough. Shitting myself mostly.
81FXB@reddit
Switched to 80% when I was 40, to 60% when I was 48. The 60% is implemented as 4 days a week and 17 weeks holidays per year.
I manage…
persimmon9847@reddit
I was lucky enough to switch to a 32 hour a week, fully remote job in my early 40s. It's been amazing for my sanity. Holding on to it through retirement will be a challenge, unfortunately, due to AI and ageism.
Fabulous_Bison7072@reddit
This is my literal dream set up.
81FXB@reddit
It gets worse.. I got a house in the Algarve (Southern Portugal), pre-bought for retirement using an inheritance. This is where I spend most of the 17 weeks.
Inner-Relative-7268@reddit
I had a corporate gig for 19 years till they layed me off. I now run my own small IT business. Have many customers and work with my wife. I’ll never retire. Don’t have a ton of money. But I work when I want and I’m the boss. No meetings I don’t want to attend. No office politics. No deadlines. I make whatever i charge and I like what I do. So I’ll do it until I die. I’ll take that over corporate life any day.
rahnbj@reddit
I’m (57-Software Developer) got laid off in February after 29 years. Worked for large ‘Beltway bandit’. I feel your pain, I don’t have any desire to return to that environment but don’t have quite enough to stop working altogether, health care alone is so expensive, ridiculous really.
Body is pretty broken so I spend a fair amount of time doing physical activity to try and get healthier, sitting down in front of computer wasn’t the best thing for me. Towards the end I got a lift desk and was standing more. Some of the folks put walking pads under their standing desks , but I hadn’t quite gotten there when I got let go.
I had a knee replacement in November and back surgery in June so the last year has been a challenge. I have been walking a lot and going to yoga once a week (for the previous 6 years I was a regular at yoga but I’ve lost some flexibility due to the surgeries).
I’ve seen what lack of movement does to a body both personally and second hand with family members. Keep moving out there. Anything you physically can do, walk, cycle, paddle your kayak , anything you can do, but keep moving. Well wishes to all.
prudent__sound@reddit
Right there with you on the moderately broken body. I've got more chronic injuries than my demographics seem to warrant, but all I can do is try to maintain and build health. My "sport" now is physical rehabilitation. Stay strong, don't give up!
rahnbj@reddit
Thanks, you too!
DPax_23@reddit
We're retiring early to another country. More middle class but out money is worth more by a lot. Healthcare is affordable. Pace of life is slower but more vibrant. I'd be done next year but we had a kid a little later in life. So I'll hang on four more years and I'll be a retired expat before I turn 60.
ajn3323@reddit
What country and how do the visas work so you can relocate?
HereOutOfBoredom@reddit
Since DPax_23 can't answer I'll jump in. I currently live in Italy but am moving to Spain in about 6 months. I'm lucky that my wife is Italian, and an EU passport lets you live in any EU country. However, if you only have US passports in hand, if you buy property in Portugal worth 500K you get "golden visa" that's good throughout the EU. google "Portugal golden visa". Other countries have similar programs but they require a higher investment. go fast, though, they are making the rules more stringent.
DPax_23@reddit
Last time I mentioned which country on the internet someone lambasted me.
But there are an awful lot of affordable countries with very easy expat retirement mechanisms.
Mexico, Costa Rica are two popular destinations close to home. The Philipines is also quite solid. I have a friend who is retiring to Vietnam this year, another who just retired to Ireland (although that is not my scene). One of my friends who has a significantly higher income bracket purchased golden citizenship in Portugal last year.
There are lots of options.
ajn3323@reddit
Cool thanks I wasn’t gonna lambast ya but ok
retired_degenerate@reddit
I'm 51, and I threw in the towel at 49.
I worked in interactive marketing, and I was very fortunate to lead a project in my late 20's that was an online retirement readiness calculator on steroids. It was backed by data from the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College, and plugging my own numbers in at the time scared the shit out of me about my own retirement readiness.
I gradually changed my saving/investing strategy and made an effort to keep lifestyle creep down. Over the years I was able to build up a pretty impressive portfolio.
Two years in, I look more like a stoner now than a business professional, but money will never be a problem.
Quijotic_Quest@reddit
How do you handle health care? That bridge to Medicare seems difficult and expensive if you have to use ACA.
retired_degenerate@reddit
My wife is still working which covers our benefits and DTD expenses. My focus is strictly on our retirement, our boys college funds, necessary big-ticket items (i.e. cars, new roof, etc.) and general wealth accumulation.
TaylorSwift_is_a_cat@reddit
Is your wife younger than you?
retired_degenerate@reddit
Yes, she is roughly 3 years younger and works from home. I'm pretty much a stay-at-home Dad now, and I do most of the household tasks.
My kids also play travel sports year-round, so I draw the default short stick for any transportation they need to practices or games.
The goal is retirement for her in 5 years when both kids are in college.
Silvermouse5150@reddit
I was at this stage a few years ago. I took a pay cut and went to work for a smaller company, I was making good money so the pay cut didn’t bother me since the kids were older and out of the house.
It ended up being a terrible decision. I took for granted the benefits working for a top company gives you. As well as the professionalism (for the most part anyways) of co-workers and the ways a top organization does things. I would have traded the amateurism and bush league way of things were done for the corporate BS any day. Big regret for me. I should have rode it out. People hate on HR, but it sucks much much worse at the non big companies. Wished I would have just stuck it out.
One example: some desks and tables needed to be moved to another part of the room. The chief of staff shouted out and asked for volunteers. Everyone jumped at the chance to help. Not me though, I’m sitting there confused, thinking I ain’t doing that shit I’m not risking injury. Meanwhile everyone looked at me like I wasn’t a team player. Fuck that I’m here to work at my desk not move shit
Another was,
Them: Did you get my email yesterday evening?
Me: I don’t know haven’t checked. I’ll check once I’m settled in.
Them: What? Don’t you have email on your phone?
Me: Nope, I’m not a manager and my phone is mine, not paid by the company. When I’m off I’m off, you should have called me if it was that important ( even then I don’t think I would have answered, I’m off god damnit)
SolomonGrumpy@reddit
Both those examples are terrible. You sound spoiled.
Cerfer@reddit
Found the Generation Gap!
SolomonGrumpy@reddit
Implying I'm not GenX?
I worked for a Firtune 500 company, and believe me I was on email late at night, on my (then) blackberry. You were allowed to BYOD - an iPhone - with manager and IT approval but they didn't pay for it, and you best believe they expected after hours work.
Moving a table didn't happen at big companies. But helping 4 or 6 co workers move one is absolutely no big deal. You worried about being hurt? Big baby. Now if you have a physical limitation or disability - sure I get it. But you are able bodied? C'mon.
Oh, downvote me again. It hurts my feelings 🙄
Cerfer@reddit
I upvoted both posts. Not now, though. Happy for you that the company could count on you so thoroughly. You sound more like Grumpy than Solomon, but then again, wisdom is pretty relative these days.
I liked having boundaries in the corporate world, but I made sure to get overtime instead of taking on the 14 hour days you so clearly enjoyed being expected of you. I'm in academia now, and so in a sense, I'm always working, but not in the same ways. I thought u/Silvermouse5150 really hit the nail on the head in describing its pros and cons.
SolomonGrumpy@reddit
At that time I was carer focused and salaried. I wanted to be recognized for excellence. I did get some validation when I made VP, but yeh work was overwhelming and I eventually dialed it back.
Cerfer@reddit
Oh. Then it was totally worth it. I get the sense that OP didn't want to be VP.
GuvNer76@reddit
This so much.
Spent early two decades and fortune 500 above companies. It had its issues, there are some politics, but overall people just wanted to do their job and go home.
Traded it in for a sub 200 person company. Promotions here are entirely based on Facebook friendship lists there’s employees here who have not only dated, but I’ve been engaged to multiple people in the building.
You know how incorporate there’s always one or two people it’s hard to figure out exactly what they do, I have like half a dozen in this company. They don’t do shit. We have a researching development person who doesn’t know how to work any of the products that we sell
there’s a state college very close by, I think that’s my next target. Decent money, no commute, even get a pension.
SheriffBartholomew@reddit
I'm younger than you, but I decided that I'm ready to retire last year. I've given my career my all my entire life. I've been working since I was 12 years old, starting with my daily 4 am paper route. I've never had an extended break. Unfortunately my finances aren't ready to retire. We got wiped out in 08 and it took forever to recover. Now we're playing catch-up. Unfortunately AI is all over my career, so I'm hoping and praying that I can get another ten years out of my career and current job so that we may actually retire instead of ending up broke as fuck. You have my sympathy and understanding. I think a lot of us are at this point now, without the financial stability to be able to do anything about it. As a result I started buying lottery tickets last week. LOL. I know the odds, but $4 per week for a chance to accelerate retirement by 10-15 years sounds good to me.
TBarzo@reddit
I don't mind my job. But I work in an office of 6, and half of them are intolerable and non-productive. They make work absolutely miserable at times, as they bring a lot of negative attention on the office. That above all else makes me yearn for retirement. I get real tired of having office meetings to find out why something went wrong. They know why! Do something about it for crying out loud!!!!!
jbcatl@reddit
Try being a 60 year old software developer during the AI explosion. I need Medicare before I can retire so one got to survive 5 more years. I do still enjoy my job and learning to use AI is somewhat exciting but I’m tired.
isgmobile@reddit
56yo developer and hate learning AI crap but have to keep myself relevant until retirement. Im burnt out, bored and totally done with corporate IT work. Divorced a few years ago so that set me retirement back a few years.
IDunnoReallyIDont@reddit
I left a fortune 40 that suddenly mandated RTO and tracked / micro-managed time in the office by hour for a fortune 200 remote position with flexibility and treated as humans (but it’s a start up division backed by the patent company) and I LOVE it.
Maybe it’s time to switch jobs? Depending what sector/field you’re in, there’s growth and enjoyment in adjacent fields or even in a different company in the same field.
Resident-Wind-853@reddit
I just hit 50, and I used to think that I’d to the whole run to 67. I’ve changed my mind after being unemployed 3 years ago for about 6mo, and having a lot of life happen since then. While I have a good job, and have a great 401K at this point, I think I’m shooting for done by 60. Earlier if I can, but I also have an 8 year old kid and a lot left on my mortgage so that might be tougher. I’m honestly worried about the next 10 years about job loss. If that happens, I think it will be a lot harder to get another tech job at this age.
worrymon@reddit
About 3 years ago I looked at my bank account and figured I could coast for a few years. (My boss was retiring, I didn't want a promotion to c-suite, and I hated the guy they chose to replace him. So I was going to walk regardless of my financial situation. I just saved myself the hassle of finding a new job.)
I'm coping by sleeping late, watching cartoons, playing computer games, taking walks in my neighborhood, eating in the park...
I'll probably have to go back to work at some point if/when the money runs out but in the meantime I'm enjoying my pretirement.
Muddring@reddit
I’m 51 and I had to make some real changes in order to keep going. Fortunately at our age we have the experience and perspective that younger ones don’t.
I really did have to prioritize the pillars of health: Sleep, diet, exercise, and caffeine/alcohol management.
I got control of my calendar. There are only so many slots available for people to book meetings with me. The rest is blocked for me either focus on my heads down work, pick and choose meetings that directly drive my business, or even rest/eat/scroll the phone for a minute. I work across time zones and I block times that are outside of my normal work hours as out of office.
I say no if asked to do more than I can handle and particularly to things that don’t drive my business.
(And this is important when dealing with clients). I learned to be satisfied with “this is the best I can do” from a personal standpoint. I let the supposed stress and pressures of my job roll right off my back as long as I feel good about my efforts. Yes, I’m accountable and my butt’s on the line and something that requires a late night or two. But if I’m happy with how I approached things at the end of the day I can’t get stressed about missing targets or being fired or anything else. I can only control my controllables.
lilred7879@reddit
Was blessed to live within our means, make decent money and get out at 57. I also was burnt out the last 3-4 years and had a great job.
The only way I got through was diving into developing my replacement(s) and mentoring the next generation which I found very enjoyable but still rough to get thru the last few years.
Demiloki@reddit
Same, but I'm holding on just for benefits. What are you doing for health insurance?
lilred7879@reddit
Paying a LOT - took advantage of ACA subsidies for 2 years and now having to pay full boat
maddog2271@reddit
I am 51 this year and, without going into too many details, I had a project that started last year that was supposed to be basically my retirement gig. I was so excited and ready to do it and it turned into the biggest nightmare of my life. The customer was without doubt the biggest pack of assholes I ever had the misfortune if meeting and my own colleagues from other units made it worse. I got out at the end of last year. I am currently so shell shocked by it that all I do is dream of retiring now. 10 months is all it took. I used to love my job in civil engineering and now all I want to do is get out. I need another 8-10 years. I guess I can handle it but I never thought it would be ruined like this.
Gullible-Apricot3379@reddit
I had to have a serious talk with myself about working to live instead of living to work.
It’s been tough to learn to say no at work (actually more like ‘I can either do A or B but not both by the end of the week.’) I’ve stopped acknowledging the fact that I’m technically capable of working 75 hours to pull off a miracle. That has no place in the equation, and no place in my expectations of anyone else, or anyone’s expectations of anyone else. I’m not doing anyone favors like that. And on the very rare occasion I do, I make it clear what it took and expect to comp the time.
I guess part of it is realizing the difference between trying to climb the ladder and deciding this is a good place to stop and enjoy the view for a while.
tomtom67TX@reddit
We spend our whole loves busting our ass and saving so we have enough money in the last 10 years of life when we're too old to actually enjoy it. It's stupid.
Physical-Start-2@reddit
I understand where you are and unfortunately for me it got worse for me as well in the corporate world. I worked as a director of sales for a manufacturer in the US and globally and it took a toll on my mental health as well as some physical problems due only to stress. I made the change when on Sundays, I dreaded Mondays so much, I would have anxiety issues whether having to be in the office or catching a plane somewhere. If at all possible, make a decision to find that “easier” way sooner than later for your sake and your family. Good luck my friend!
BlueJewFL@reddit
I’m 53 and in the middle of a year off and I’m gonna do one more stint at a lower pay grade - I think that’s the only way I can do it any longer
ToneVegetable3691@reddit
No matter where you go, there you are
You've made it this far. At this point you can do five years standing on your head. All of this stability you've created is valuable in a way that you can't/won't understand until you don't have it.
Or, fuck it. Let the dice fly high. Just let go.
Ineffable7980x@reddit
You're not alone. I'm 61 and feel like I'm running out of gas as well. . However, I need to work until at least 67 to have enough to retire on. I try to find gratitude in small every day things to get me through.
tomtom67TX@reddit
Birth. School. Work. Death.
Cerfer@reddit
The Godfathers never stopped being right.
doubleohzerooo0@reddit
57 years old checking in.
Diet, exercise, weight loss. I quit smoking and I rarely drink. Getting back in shape really helps.
Stay connected. I grow bonsai and do pottery. On weekends, I go to the local Farmer' Market. I attend Bonsai Club meetings. I have friends at the pottery studio. I'm friends with fellow vendors and a few regular customers.
I take regular vacations with my wife and I have 5 adult kids. I help guide them through life while being supportive.
ICanHasBirthday@reddit
56 year old here who didn’t take care of himself. I’m now retired - long-term disability retired after almost dying three times in two years with chronic health issues.
I am now trapped indoors during summer months unable to cool myself if temperatures get above 80-82 degrees on humid days — higher on dry days. I have a MS Vest to help cool me down but that buys me 4 hours max. I’m a prisoner in my own home now 5 months out of the year.
Chronic fatigue and brain fog are a mofo. I have tons of free ton but no energy to enjoy it.
There are worse things than being out of gas. If you can get back in shape, use me as the example to help motivate you. Good luck!
doubleohzerooo0@reddit
I'm diabetic with asthma. 15 years ago, a friend of mine had a heart attack, but survived. Same age as me. Like me, he was out of shape, diabetic, smoker, drinker.
I used my friend as the example to help motivate me. On a strange twist, he saw the progress I was making and used me as the example to help motivate him. He's also lost a bit of weight and quit drinking/smoking.
Friend, you're not done yet. I hope you can fight this and find a way to get better.
Best of luck!
simulated_copy@reddit
I hate summer perpetual 60s is my dream hate the heat always have, but worse as you age.
Droll_hrlady888@reddit
Save money and you might consider consulting
feti_wap@reddit
Got lucky and retired at 51. Wife is still working (she’s 5 yrs younger and way smarter). Lived in Maui since 2003 so most of life was already in a vacation destination. Had a son at 45 yo so that’s what life is now. Still busy but so much more rewarding. Okay gotta go, canoe paddling practice starting soon. 🤙🏽. Oh yeah we bought 2 properties early 2012 and 2017 and paid them off so rental income is how I pay for it.
ImMeltingNY@reddit
I worked the last few years in corporate after being in higher education. The pay was better than higher ed, but the corporate culture was brutal. The insane waste of time with meetings, work that is going in one direction and then in three months in a completely different direction. In five years i had about seven different managers and interim managers. The last manager was a dictator, it was her way or the highway.
What I did recently was leave the US. My private health insurance is so cheap, food is cheaper, people are friendlier and life feels like it’s slowing down to the point I can enjoy it again.
I’m not a millionaire by any means. I planned to make this move the last few years. Not something everyone can or even wants to do, but it was the right choice for me.
simmonsfield@reddit
Where to? My kids are talking about leaving the US as well.
ImMeltingNY@reddit
Spain.
simulated_copy@reddit
You say you dont have enough, but have made great money at a Fortune 100 company.
What does the 4% now 4.7% rule tell you?
NoiseNecessary4737@reddit
Turned 50 recently and I've been feeling this a few years now. It just consumes you, too tired after work to do anything, housework/fixing stuff at weekend, not enough money or energy to go away on holiday etc. I'm just thinking I'll retire asap and use what little private pension I have to keepe going until state pension (hopefully still be one and still at 67). Capitalism sucks hard.
CleanStatistician349@reddit
Suck it up. That has been my mantra for the last couple of years and I hates it.
genuine_risk1@reddit
43 here and Im already where you are. My husband and I have decided that after the kids graduate (3 years) we will be living WELL below our means and save literally every single penny we can in order to boost our cushion and retire early.
YogurtclosetParty755@reddit
Turning 50 this year & right there with you. Was planning in working until 60, but now I’m thinking maybe 55. Trying to see if I can get the numbers to work. I wouldn’t mind working, just not in my current corporate role.
SyntaxEditor@reddit
Oh, I thought you were literally running out of gas! Because, you know, gas is pretty expensive right now.
Electronic_Name_325@reddit
I just don’t understand people in their 50s not having decent savings, especially ones who have been employed for 30 years. I am 54. We have seen an absolute great situation over our investing career. How can someone not know about 25 years ago that investing is a wise move? There were flyers, commercials, magazines (Money and Kliplingers, while mostly junk, did have easy to understand concepts decades ago,) so easy to be informed.
I couple hundred a month in the ‘90s, learned in dotcom that risk matters a bit, but no big thing. Increased to several hundred a month, almost maxing 401k. Had the GFC hit, and anyone who kept their job and just kept investing learned how nice dips can be. And here are now, easy to have a couple million in tax advantaged accounts, and hopefully a bunch in taxable.
It was so easy to see the path 30 years ago, did people just not look?
TraditionClassic2937@reddit
This is a shitty comment.
Electronic_Name_325@reddit
Sure, sure, say it’s OK for people to play the victim. The OP readily admits to making good, actually great, money, and working in their career for 35 years!!!! Just the smallest of efforts early on is all it took. I didn’t say takes, I said took. Who knows what the next 35 will bring, but holy hell was it a simple path to wealth from 1991 until now.
TraditionClassic2937@reddit
Good job doubling down on your shitty comment.
Electronic_Name_325@reddit
Good job doubling down on apparently wanting to give people a free pass on their choices. Again, mostly towards OP since they provided some details. Certainly others have had, and have, an uphill climb, but OP doesn’t sound alone based on some replies. And, as someone mentioned, a medical situation can really knock you down, but OP didn’t say they have had any challenges. Enjoy the bed.
Raz0r-@reddit
Hindsight is 20/20 as they say.
Plenty of reasons people don’t have “a few million” even if they invested.
Low pay? Didn’t quite make it to a pension? No access to a 401k? Taught the stock market was risky? Got taken for a ride (Ponzi scheme? Business opportunity? etc.). Extended unemployment? Taking care of family? Many reasons…
Try not to be so preachy and have some compassion for your fellow humans…
Electronic_Name_325@reddit
No, not when someone lays out the premise OP did, being employed, F100, great pay. Not hindsight, just reflecting on what was readily available as current sight through the last three decades. No excuses, leave that to the kids of today and all their hardships they tell us about.
I did say “kept their job” as for sure, a lot of good people were displaced.
FeedbackExisting4762@reddit
Everyone's situation is different. Sometimes it's because of a lack of resources rather than a lack of planning.
Sometimes life happens no matter how well you plan, sometimes all it takes is a lay off, divorce, or an unexpected medical event to smack you back down. All which had happened to me. Even though I couldn't afford to start saving in a 401k until age 38, I had decent savings until a few years ago.
I have very little savings now. I'm in my 50's and struggling to build it back, but I doubt it will be what it once was.
Professional_Use8237@reddit
I’d start looking for that easier-with-benefits job now because it could take a while. In the meantime, do the thing that brings you some pleasure, learn something new. Hopefully you have a lot of good years ahead of you!
Fabulous_Bison7072@reddit
I got laid off a couple of years ago and just had a total attitude shift after that. I am so over the corporate BS. I was lucky enough to land a well-paying job after a prolonged search, and now I’m just saving aggressively with the goal to be out by 55. Will that happen? I don’t know, but it’s nice to have a goal. What has helped me a lot has been that I’m in a relatively LCOL region, and I’ve always been a saver. If you want to focus on retiring early, I would put everything on the table. If your mortgage is eating you alive, do you have the ability to downsize or move somewhere less expensive.
I would love to gradually shift to part-time work, but that seems to be a rarity in the corporate world. It would be so much easier to last until 60 or 65 if I was only working 2-4 days per week and had more flexibility in my life. My current gig has very limited PTO, and that is really hard. I will be looking for a new job soon, and finding someplace with more PTO allotment is high on my list.
Pdx_Obviously@reddit
I'm going on 55. Feel very similar to you. Our solution... Sell our house and take the proceeds and move to Spain for 5 years. Not sure what happens after that, but at least the next 5 years are covered.
joshua_addison_music@reddit
I understand the frustration and I know this is hard to hear because you probably worked hard to get to where you are but…
People are struggling badly right now and as lame as this may sound, let a grateful heart carry you through. You’re lucky to be in the position you’re in.
Never seen it this bad and I’m 52
dontaggravation@reddit
Feeling the same pinch and in my early 50s. Sole income earner
I’m hanging on by my fingernails at this point to keep my job and support my family. Having health problems as a result
Had a get real conversation with my partner and the plan is to hold on until the end of the year. And then completely drop out of corporate America. My plan is to do consulting on the side and pickup a local city or state government job.
I’ve worked part time in city government and it’s a snooze job. Show up. Do the bare minimum while getting benefits. I hate being treated like a child by the micro management but you can’t trade the peace of mind and lower stress
Take care of your health — you can never get they back. Seeing how much my health is impacted by the work was astounding to me. Wish me luck with the make it to the end of the year plan!
HistoricalStatus5577@reddit
I’m so fried, same tech company over 25 years so I am a literal miracle. It’s taken a lot out of me though - I will only be remote which thankfully goes with my vision issue, courtesy of a work-related issue ages ago. I’ve got wicked carpal tunnel that I’ll let them pay to repair. I’m mentally bored out of my mind because we eliminated all mid level managers so I’m doing work I delegated out 15 years ago if I can’t get ai to do it. However I invested well so any ol time they want to toss me is fine by me. Knowing I can live without working changes literally everything. 56F, no kids, single because yeah, all I did was work.
dontaggravation@reddit
Yes that does change everything indeed
It does take a lot out of you and I feel the same. Bone weary tired. My health issues really started to accelerate the past few years. I took FMLA for 12 weeks medical and being away from work seeing the difference in my health was astounding. Now I get why our country doesn’t offer leave because man once you see the toll it takes you don’t want to go back
Kids to feed. Family to support off to work I go
aja_303@reddit
My spouse and I are 52 and 53 and both walked away from corporate life this year. Enough is enough. We paid our dues. Get serious about the life you want, your options and how to get there. Don’t let fear dictate your future.
triphawk07@reddit
I'm 52 and I "retired" three weeks ago. Just got tired of putting with people's BS and prioritized myself. Congrats to both of you!
aja_303@reddit
Congrats to you too!!
jbbhengry@reddit
Yeah, I get it. It sucks. Now let me get on my soap box, we are to blame for this mess. We should of been paying attention back when we were 18 but didn't. I do hope these 30 and under are paying attention, it seems like they are. So when they get old and they'll have a better work life.(fingers crossed) At this age you shouldn't be struggling but you are, like everyone else. Hopefull you don't get seriously ill because that will tear you down. Keep your head up, take care of yourself. Life's a bitch.
fullthrottle13@reddit
Preach brother/sister!! Exact same boat.
V1per73@reddit
I live paycheck to paycheck. The need for a roof over my head keeps my tired ass going tbh. I just want to take it easy and fish and code.
Jebgogh@reddit
I left the corporate insurance job and got one with a small company advising people how to deal with the corporate insurance industry. Make a little bit more but the benefits aren’t as good. That said I feel better about what I do and my days.
bigbossfearless@reddit
Oh boo fucking hoo. You make great money at a big company and you actually have the possibility of retirement. Whine harder you lucky shit.
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
r/GenX does not allow harassment
RCA2CE@reddit
I did it - quit the corporate job into something a little more fulfilling
Took a hit on pay but my quality of life is better, it pays the bills and I have insurance.. every year I’m here is like 2 years closer to retirement because I save a little, I don’t use savings and I burn a year .. do it
fromamomof2@reddit
I literally just told a friend im tired of thinking st work every day! I want to work when I retire.but want a job i can leave there and bot bring it home with me.
jmg733mpls@reddit
Remember how our parents could retire at 56? The problem is the system. I’m 50 and cannot imagine working for another 17 years. The thought makes my skin crawl. But I have no choice, right?
SolomonGrumpy@reddit
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tharesabeveragehere@reddit
You do have a choice - simple FV calc maxing out your tax-advantaged contributions for ten years with an assumed 7% return results in \~$600k. And that assumes you're starting with zero.
The "system" isn't broken - what's broken is people don't use the system that's made available.
jmg733mpls@reddit
HAHA! You assume I have any retirement savings.
2boredtocare@reddit
They did say "assumes you're starting at zero."
jmg733mpls@reddit
And I said “you assume I have money to contribute”. I don’t. No extra.
2boredtocare@reddit
Well, now you did, after the edit.
Hoot151@reddit
You must have had rich parents, the lowest social security age during their years was 62. I didn't know anyone in my parents generation who retired at that age.
SnowblindAlbino@reddit
I know tons of people that retired retired in their 50s from basic middle class jobs, but they had unions and pensions.
jmg733mpls@reddit
Yea. This was their situation
jmg733mpls@reddit
We were actually quite poor but they had pensions. They are dead now so I can’t ask them
TraditionClassic2937@reddit
Im in the same boat - 52, great income and strong investments but absolutely burnt out. I can't imagine I'm going to make it to 60, and honestly I don't even know if I want to anymore. I am also a woodworker for pleasure, but my plan right now is to start late this year / early next to build a small woodworking side hustle. Nothing crazy, and nothing that will replace 6 figures in income but something to add to the nestegg for the next 5-8 years to make the exit at 58-60 possible.
tharesabeveragehere@reddit
Eleven more years of weekly updates...that's only 572 more TPS reports before you retire.
Don't forget your cover sheets.
NoAbbreviations290@reddit
I’m a people person!
ebunky@reddit
You’ll also have to move to downstairs to storage B to make as much space as possible. 😆
SatanNeverSleeps@reddit
I was thinking if I got a minimal job at 59, say at a park or even just doing stock, I only need to make enough to pay rent and bills and I can live off 401k. I don’t have kids or debt.
LittleEdithBeale@reddit
I'm 51 and just got hired permanently after temping in a warehouse. I love it! I was in corporate since my 20s, and it set me up well, but I hated it. I'm so glad to be on the other side of that nonsense.
SatanNeverSleeps@reddit
That’s great! It’s not a bad plan if you have the 401K, right? Yeah I’ve worked in corporate for over 25 years. It’s weird but lately I’m feeling if they let me go today I’ll have the summer, move, get the resume in order and look.
NoAbbreviations290@reddit
I’m am secretly hoping for a severance daily.
DonnyDiddledIvanka@reddit
This could have been written by me except I'm 57. I feel the exact same way. I am convinced much of this has to do with how much more time we've put in to working than our parents at this age due to cell phones, laptops, email, etc. The extra hours we have put in after leaving the office(or before arriving) adds up quickly and has probably added years to our time "on the clock".
I've been saying for 2+ years almost every day "I can't keep doing this" and yet I keep doing it. I don't know what the answer is except to keep at it until we don't have to any longer but I fear that day is further off than we think at this point.
NoAbbreviations290@reddit
That’s a really interesting (and sad) point. I keep doing it too.
Chicagoj1563@reddit
I’m in the exact same situation as OP and will be 58 next month.
My response is to become a content creator and build an audience online. I’m in tech and spend much of my time involved with AI. So, I’m moving to build an audience around that with YouTube, substack, etc…
If I can build an online business through that I won’t be working a day job anymore.
It’s a changing world. There are options now. A day job is not something everyone has to do.
phinbob@reddit
This thread is both depressing and heartwarming.
It seems like there's plenty of people in similar positions. Maybe we need to find a way to take an easy job for the last like ten years of our employment.
One thing that's worked for me is to try and find a role where I solely concentrate on what I'm good at and that I enjoy and stick religiously to just doing that. I had to have a mini-breakdown and spend a summer freelancing and hiking to get here.
Business decisions that don't make much sense? Meh. Department x making stuff no one wants? Not my problem. I do my job (moderately well) and take the money.
I've just started actively planning for retirement, modeling expenses, income, and looking at what to do about healthcare (biggest headache). It's been a fun project, and AI tools have helped a lot (although you have to check their work, mine invented a mortgage that didn't exist).
You might also consider some pharmaceutical help from antidepressants and testosterone replacement, just to get you through these years.
Perhaps we need to start r/burntoutbutstillhere to figure out how to survive until the promised land comes into sight.
One final thought: if you're not already, now is the time to concentrate on your health. You want to hit retirement with a good chunk of healthy years ahead, and now is the time to do what you can to increase your chances. There's a lot of information out there (including a good book 'Outlive').
Sorry, didn't mean this to become an essay.
TraditionClassic2937@reddit
Someone really needs to create this sub....
Thick_You2502@reddit
Lucky you by law in my country I must work until 65, and get minimal benefits.
CleMike69@reddit
I’m 56 been in my career since 86 so to say I’m done is an understatement. I made decent money but more importantly I made great decisions with that money and I’m financially independent and semi retired. Planning to fully pull the plug in a year.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
An interesting thing is happening in the working sector. Companies are realizing that younger people are using AI to cheat in school and in actuality are hurting themselves because they are depriving themselves of knowledge. As a result older candidates with real experience and critical thinking skills are more and more desirable.
That being said your health is the most important. I walked away from the office at 43 and life got so much better being a self-employed contractor working fully remotely. I was having health issues and had two surgeries as a result of work stress! It is simply not worth it.
Try to find something you may actually enjoy.
Melted-lithium@reddit
I’d love to believe your AI statement, it is the opposite however that is happening. Companies are generally accepting average as it’s cheap and shedding more expensive ‘experience’. This is about quarter to quarter gains. No US company gives a rats ass about thinking ahead beyond 1 quarter.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
My wife was just hired at a company that only interviewed candidates with more than ten years experience. They do not want recent college grads or people will lower skill sets. No hand holding, no games. She makes her base salary and works 35 hours with benefits that include health, dental and disability insurance, 401k match, bonuses, annual COL increases, (Mega) Backdoor Roth IRA and is fully remote. If she wants or is asked to work beyond that the next five hours are paid hourly. After 40 it’s all time and a half and it is unlimited. She can put in as many OT hours as she wants.
Her previous company told her she can come back anytime she wants when she decides to retire soon and wants to do part-time.
Melted-lithium@reddit
Consider yourself very lucky. This is not the way the world is working for many. I know 6 people in there early 40s that got ditched. All around technology and even engineering. Off shoring fixed with AI is the most common excuse.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
Lucky? Maybe. But my point is to show you that saying no companies are doing what I said is not entirely true. I know other people in her industry that found work in their 50’s. There will be an AI backlash in the near future. Even China and the US are starting to agree about it. A friend of mine is counting on Tesla robotaxis to take over everything including the car industry! He says “no one will ever need a car.” On paper it sounds ideal. In reality? It makes Tesla an illegal monopoly. And the millions of people that will lose their jobs? “They will figure it out. The only reason my friend is hoping for this is so his stock will go up and he wins. The rest of society will benefit but he doesn’t say how. Just a whole bunch of BS fancy talk about a utopian society.
SolomonGrumpy@reddit
If you make great money what have you done with it?
MusicalMerlin1973@reddit
I’m planning on sticking it out until 62 if I can in my tech job. After that, I’m going to bridge to 65 hopefully at some job that has medical. SS delayed until 70. We could take it sooner, but I want the higher for my wife just in case she outlives me.
So I’ve got to hold onto this job 9 more years.
But yeah, I’m looking forward to not having to worry about the state of tech anymore.
NegScenePts@reddit
Take what you've got, reduce your needs, and get a minimum wage job. to fill the gaps.
Recordeal7@reddit
I hear you OP. My wife and I just decided to retire in 2030. That’s a bit earlier than expected. Now I feel the stress of hoping the market does the same in the next 4-5 years as it’s done in the last 20. Plus, I got really lucky and bought some name brand crypto in 2018 and never sold. But, we all know how crypto can burst at any moment
Everything needs to be PERFECT and timed out PERFECTLY in order to retire in 2030. That’s a lot of stress that suddenly popped up. It’s hard not to constantly think about.
My life sometimes feels like those disaster movies where the airplane is almost out of fuel and they just don’t know if they have enough to make it to the airport before they run out and have to ditch in the ocean.
Exhausting.
goodbyemooninites88@reddit
Copious amounts of mind altering substances.
zabacam@reddit
Same position. Working since 1994 and wish I could just ratchet down this year. Impacts my mental and physical health….
AbsolutesDealer@reddit
Consider Cannabis.
Intrepid-Big2229@reddit
Always
Aloh4mora@reddit
I found a softer place to land, at a local government agency where I can work remotely. There are no shareholders to placate, and because it's the government, it's not going to go out of business. There's a great mix of genders and ages on my team, including several people older than I am, so I don't worry about being pushed out due to age.
My software dev friends still in private industry are suffering. I know men coloring their hair not because they want to, but because they're trying to eke out another few years plausibility masquerading as still in their 40s.
FullRedact@reddit
Would you consider retiring in Asia where it’s cheap and health care is basically free (relative to US prices)?
I see lots of people moving to Vietnam, Thailand, etc.
throwpayrollaway@reddit
I hate heat and humidity. Anywhere a bit colder that's less expensive to live in?
Manic-monkies@reddit
I would. How? I’m out in 5. Saved up for retirement.
grandmofftalkin@reddit
I bailed at 50 after getting yet another awful manager. Was at the company 20 years. Interesting work. Great benefits, including car plan and grandfathered Cadillac health plan they don't offer anymore.
But the body keeps the score and I was falling apart. Started coaching practice for people pivoting careers and retirement transition. Much less money but I haven't slept this good since I was a teenager.
Affogoto@reddit
51 here and left corporate world at 47. Took a year off after I negotiated a settlement. I decided to never work a corporate job again.
My wife works and we have health care through her job. When we can access our retirement funds, we’ll be fine. It’s bridging the gap until then.
I now work part time in a job I love. I have some hobbies that also earn money. I volunteer. I feel completely renewed and refreshed.
I have encouraged some friends to make the jump. I worried so much at first, but after 5 years, we’ve been more than fine financially.
typhona@reddit
54, got back into stagehand work 4 yrs ago. Its not for everyone and the schedule is crazy, but damn if I dont love my job
2boredtocare@reddit
I would actually really love that.
SaintStephen77@reddit
52 and exhausted almost every day. I have no idea how I’m gonna make it to 65. One day at a time I guess
willow6566@reddit
I too burned out after many years in a print shop. Deadlines were killer. So I “semi-retired” at age 59. I plan on collecting my ss next year at 62, and my IRA is doing well. My sister’s place needed drivers for picking adults with disabilities up in the morning and taking them home in the afternoon, so I started that- not a bad gig. I start at 6:30 and am home before 8; afternoons I start at 2:30 and am home by 4-4:30. Of course they always need help at the workshop, but I like driving and that’s what I’ll do til I’m 62. Plus it pads my ss a little bit more. ;)
Bubbly_Locksmith72@reddit
Yes, I have met a lot of Uber drivers that are semi retired and do Uber part-time
GwonWitcha@reddit
You’re doing great in comparison to myself.
I just hit 50 in January, and I feel like I ran outta gas a couple years ago…running on sheer willpower now.
Smart_Butterfly_7845@reddit
We joined the workforce at the last point where we thought corporate work = path to build a career. After the dotcom bubble burst the notion of a corporation putting their employees above their shareholders was almost entirely erased. By the time we survived COVID (from a professional standpoint) it was every man for themselves.
CompleteService8593@reddit
58 here and I feel your pain. Been in engineering for 30+ years and it’s just no fun anymore. I’ve been fortunate to travel the US completely and various parts of Europe in those 30 years. Everything now is metrics, margins, and growth for the sake of growth. Thankfully I’ve saved and invested wisely so I’m looking to exit next summer which can’t come soon enough…
Mediocre_Heron946@reddit
I think the months will probably go quickly. Might even look back years from now and wonder how so and so is doing and might not have as much opportunity to interact as much in project and solving problems.
Senior-Cantaloupe-69@reddit
Start a side hustle or hobby to get your brain active in other ways. It has helped me. Hopefully, I’ll even make some money
BAMW-447679@reddit
I am 50 and am totally burned out. My savings allowed me to do that, and I am a consultant who works for myself. It’s been a godsend. And I can’t retire yet either. See if there’s anything you can do along those lines. I know it’s not easy.
Upstairs-Hope4392@reddit
Just retired at 53 years old. I hear you. Was getting very tired. Adapting to it now.
Spiritual_Sail_8969@reddit
I'm 57 and don't think true retirement is in my future. But I'm looking at alternative sources of income for when I hit 67. I'm working on 2 books and a web comic series currently just to see if I'm actually good and if it would be a viable option. I use AI a lot both at work and my personal life. I think being proficient at using AI will be a vital skill, and really it is now already.
owzleee@reddit
I retired in February aged 58. I’d worked for one of the biggest investment banks in the world (fintech) for 25 years. Got a nice pay out as I took a rif. We bought an apartment here in Buenos Aires and still have our London apartment providing decent income (we probably can’t afford to move back to London now tbh) plus pensions etc. I just couldn’t take it any more. I was leading a team of 30 (fabulous) people but the politics etc and the push to AI (plus 25 years of bureaucracy) was breaking me. I’m much happier now. Back at school learning Spanish (porteño), swimming when it’s quiet at the pool. We are travelling South America (husband is Colombian but lived in London for 30 odd years). It’s the best decision I made. I think I would probably have died early from stress if I waited anothe 10 years. If you can in any way afford it, retire! Don’t drop dead on the job (or two weeks after you retire). We all need to live properly in our twilight years!
SnowblindAlbino@reddit
We are planning to retire at 61. Jobs are okay, we are at a university, but there are just other things we want to do. Too many people we know hit serious health problems by their mid '60s and we don't to keep working if that's the future.
LayerNo3634@reddit
I retired early. My sister quit her high stress job and got an easier job for the insurance and benefits. She's making enough to pay the bills and add a little to retirement until she can get social security and medicare.
RAWR_Orree@reddit
OP sounds like he's in a similar position as I am at 58. Been working since I was 17, worked to put myself through school and finished up earning an MBA. I've worked for two large (one multinational) firms, and a few smaller ones. I'm so burned out and I don't know when I'll get to retire. I've worked during my "vacations." I've busted my ass and been stressed out for the past 40 years. On top of that, I could get laid off at any time and be proper fucked.
I don't know what's gonna happen, but I'm feeling like I cant go on like this.
Buzzcoin@reddit
We should retire after a certain amount of work years not an age.
PrettyWorn_@reddit
Corporate burnout is exhausting, and making good money doesn't cure a drained spirit. You are definitely not alone in this stage of life. Many professionals in your shoes cope by strictly protecting their boundaries, taking every second of their PTO, and focusing heavily on hobbies or countdown milestones. You've given 35 years to your career; it is completely normal to be out of steam. Be gentle with yourself as you navigate this transition...Five years! So close, you've got this.
ButOfCourse@reddit (OP)
Thank you stranger… your kindness means a lot
PrettyWorn_@reddit
Something that has helped me, which I love. (Don’t forget to enjoy life in between work.) 🫶
Travelchick8@reddit
You need to go for the lesser job now. Burn out is real and a total crash will be more costly (in many ways) than making a change now.
Ill-Consideration892@reddit
Corporate is brutal. Finished my tour of duty last summer at 53 - but not by choice. In hindsight it was a blessing. I make 1/3 of what I was making but the stress is nearly 0 now and it’s consulting so I can pick my hours and projects. Best of luck to you!
myleftone@reddit
I’ll take it. I’ll work for twenty more years. Are they hiring?
thirtyone-charlie@reddit
I took a lesser job with a pay cut for my last 3 years. Not corporate but government so maybe worse, at least as bad. I retired in 2023 at 57. The plan was to work somewhere doing something but a knee replacement took me out for a while and now I need the other knee replaced. I’ve been scrimping by so I keep on at that. I have decided to take my SS at 62 and see where that lands me. Maybe I’ll get a job selling bait on the side of the road down by the lake.
Temporary_Shirt_6236@reddit
I'm 53 and have no idea how I'll make it to the end of this fiscal, never mind age 60-something.
ConsciousAsk8160@reddit
Exactly same boat here. Just turned 53.. I can potentially retire but its a massive risk to me to retire so early so I want to keep going.
demona2002@reddit
TLDR - AI really helped me better understand clinical burnout symptoms and strategies.
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I am also the same age, retirement target date and suffering really really bad burnout. (panic attacks, depression, exhaustion, resentment, etc). The following is bringing me some relief:
I started seeing a therapist to unload - which is really helpful - but weekly appointments don’t give me quick enough access to all the info I need.
I also had a full bloodwork done. Learned my HRT (57f very low on testosterone) needed to be adjusted and I am low on Vitamin B12 and D.
Equally important - I have also started a long running discussion with ChatGPT about my specific symptoms and burnout reset strategies.
Prompt started along the lines of “act as my medical team including psychologist, GI specialist, nutritionist, OB/gyn, endocrinologist, sleep specialist, psychiatrist and any other team members who might be needed to assess me. The mind body connection influences all of my health. I am going to tell you all about my current mental and physical state, and notable variables such as previous trauma, health history, nutrition, work/life experience’s, relationships, triggers, and more. Ask me all the questions you need to in order to fill in gaps and assess my current state and help make recommendations to facilitate recovery. Our main focus is clinical burnout but you should proactively assess whether any symptoms require medical follow up for other conditions. This will be an ongoing interactive conversation between us daily where I will input my symptoms, environment, inputs and outputs and you will assess and make recommendations / share insights to help guide my recovery strategy. Your feedback will be comprehensive and may adjust over time based on our mutual observations. You will continue to proactively seek information through interview questions whenever you feel a data point is missing”
I have pumped every detail into it (whether it asked me for them or not) - when I wake, how long I sit at my desk, medications I am taking, when energy depletes, symptoms I feel and when, daily food I eat, hobbies, trauma I have experienced, how all these things affect how I feel, etc. The more detail the better. It has made some really good observations and suggestions which are actually helping.
ChatGPT helps me to reframe how I look at things, and identify some actions I can take towards healing - both physical and mental.
I am now more intentional about taking more breaks, get more sun, eat cleaner, do more mindless pleasurable hobbies, work fewer hours.
These things are helping me reset my nervous system.
I know folks are down on AI. It does not have all answers and not always correct but in my experience this has been really really helpful - and given me a lot of ideas to explore.
Wishing you the best in your recovery journey. Know that you do not have to wait for retirement to start healing yourself.
Secure_Tea_5203@reddit
Remember you don’t have to work - you get to work. Don’t blame your employer for where you are.
GinnyMcJuicy@reddit
This comment makes me so incredibly sad. Mmm tasty boot.
flsingleguy@reddit
I am not sure what your fitness routine may or may not be. I am in a very similar boat as you. I found doing something like Orange Theory helped a lot. Orange Theory is a group fitness class that you attend with cardio, agility and strength training. The net mental impact actually outweighs the physical benefits. I found this to be a game changer.
Justamom1225@reddit
Something to think about before jumping ship: healthcare. It's not pretty out here.
d_ippy@reddit
This is the thing holding me back. Those extra subsidies would have helped but now it’s not so cheap.
ClassicSkier@reddit
Dropping off of the hamster wheel in 7 weeks - turning 55. So much in common with the other replies in this thread.
no_id_never@reddit
So jealous! I can step off and time, but I lack the courage.
Existential_Threat1@reddit
60 here, also corporate. My financial advisor keeps telling me I’ll be fine and to lose the “golden handcuffs” but I still don’t feel I’m “there” yet financially even though my numbers say I am. How do I cope? I spend my time planning those things I will do the day after I punch. I mentor and train my team to pick up those essential tasks so when I leave there is no gap, and I enjoy my time off when I log off for the day. I have learned that the corporation will function with or without me, so when I log off, I am off. The struggle is real. When I started with this company six years ago, there was a guy about the age I am now, he told me the day I joined he was retiring. He spent the next five years “retiring.” I now know why he had trouble pulling the trigger. I hope he is doing well. Good luck, and I hope you find a clear path for your retirement journey.
Working-Active@reddit
I'm 53 and the only thing keeping me going are tech RSUs. I don't mind working a few more years now inside of trying to find a job when I'm 70. When my job ends, that will be it and I will just retire.
gxfrnb899@reddit
56 could probably retire in few years but staying on for benefits. I have low stress role than had earlier in career.
DryFoundation2323@reddit
I was right there with you. fortunately I had a pension that I was eligible for at age 54. I originally thought I was going to work to well over 60. turns out I made it about 6 months past my 54th birthday. I'm 58 now and I've never looked back.
neepster44@reddit
How are you handling healthcare? Or are you not in the US?
DryFoundation2323@reddit
it's part of my pension. it's the same healthcare I had while I was still employed. this would not have been possible without that. when I turn 65 it becomes a medigap policy.
BahBahSMT@reddit
You should get out now. You can’t put a price on happiness. And you will likely be fine or find a different job that makes you enough money and brings happier days.
FarCry5372@reddit
I have been in corporate for decades. Currently 56 and I am finding it less of a grind than a decade ago, at least that is my situation. I am going to try to hold out here until 62.
EcoNorfolk@reddit
Start your own business. What sector are you in?
discgman@reddit
57 and its starting to get to me. I need to make it to 62 at the least.
Imaginary_Narwhal241@reddit
My testosterone levels have decreased since I retired. I lost ambition, focus, and sex drive. I'm starting treatment in 2 weeks. We'll soon see if this works.
Ok_Location7161@reddit
Im sitting in cube at work right now. Take away all my testosterone, ambition and focus, take it all. Just remove me from this Corp hell.
Imaginary_Narwhal241@reddit
I'm trying to muster the gumption to work in the garden. Just a couple of years ago, you couldn't get me out of there.
killslikeaninja@reddit
This will help. I’ve been using TRT(cream) for 6 years. My T level was 103 when I started, my doctor has raised my dosage 3 times over this period. My level is now 630ish and I feel a lot better. I personally would like it closer to 700, but I’ll see what he recommends.
It’s going to take a few weeks to feel the difference. Track your progress and communicate with your doctor. Don’t be afraid to tell your doctor it’s working but there is still room for improvement.
Imaginary_Narwhal241@reddit
Thanks for the advice. This is a real problem and it makes sense to me now.
LAKingSteve@reddit
59, was laid off after 32 years at age 57 and luckily got a new job
Thought I was done when laid off but new job gave me new life. Plan is to go to 65 or so. Maybe a bit earlier. At least I feel rejuvenated but what you are feeling is incredibly common.
Rice_Post10@reddit
I’m 55 turning 55 this summer. Exactly the same situation. I can retire at 62 and trying to hang on but it’s tough. I’m burnt out, I’ve been working since I was 25 and I’m done. I’ve mentally checked out and don’t care about promotions or PD. It’s just a paycheck until I can retire.
OldLifeguard-00@reddit
I’m turning 50 and running out of gas as well. My wife now earns as much as I do and I’m flippin’ lucky that our mortgage is rock bottom and very low dollar amount.
Property taxes and insurance on the other hand … 🙄
ChiefHighasFuck@reddit
You’re not “lucky”your mortgage is rock bottom. You diligently paid it off and didn’t HELOC for that shiny toy. Oh and the little orange light is on the gas gauge here too!
OldLifeguard-00@reddit
True! Admittedly, we bought a house too small for our needs. We were on basically one salary when we bought and now we’re not.
ButterscotchNice3613@reddit
Property taxes should be adjusted way down after a certain age. The fact they just keep going up and up while income is flat drives me nuts
IDGAF53@reddit
You're talking what me and some friends are like. Been doing corp for so long csnt take much BS...checking out this FiRE. One more to get into college.
Big-Sheepherder-6134@reddit
We have been doing FIRE since our 40’s. I already am mostly retired and she is a few years away from retiring at 55-56. But I can now work because I want to. So even if I bring in $25k or $50k it’s gravy. She makes over $200k.
tharesabeveragehere@reddit
Sell all your earthly treasures, buy a van, and park it near the river.
Happiness follows.
Few_Whereas5206@reddit
I am 58 running on fumes. Luckily I can retire. Just doing time until 60. I would do a budget and see what you really need per month to retire. You may be in better shape than you think. Alternatively, lower your spending and lifestyle to allow yourself to retire earlier.
Tls-user@reddit
Honestly, I hit a wall at 50, but that was the same year as Covid happened so I sucked it up and hung in there until 2023.
I took a two year unpaid leave to do a test run and then fully retired in 2025 at 55.
I just couldn’t stay on the hamster wheel any longer.
DeadBy2050@reddit
Gotta ask, did you ever consider living frugally during at least part of those 35 years so that you could retire by now (age 56)?
I retired comfortably a couple years ago in my late 50s. This was after working 25 years in my last job; and the last 20 of those, wife stayed home to raise kids so we had only my income.
Picked a career that had a pension. We bought/drove only used cars and typically kept them 10 years. Our family vacations were typically very modest. Regularly contributed to retirement fund.
SouthOrlandoFather@reddit
If you made great money not sure how you still need to work. The market the last 16 years should have tripled your 2010 money.
DogsAreOurFriends@reddit
I used to think that.
I have about $2 million in the kitty, a house paid off, and another that I could sell and pocket about $400K.
But... health insurance is going to be what $1600 a month rising 20% per year? It is $200 for a few bags of groceries. Electricity is on track to double in the next few years.
The math has changed.
SouthOrlandoFather@reddit
Really depends on your monthly burn rate and the cost of the hobbies you pursue when you stop working.
DogsAreOurFriends@reddit
Yeah no shit, which is why a constantly increasing burn rate that is out of your control changes everything.
SouthOrlandoFather@reddit
What SWR are you wanting to use?
mentalgymnatician@reddit
Life happens my man
tungtingshrimp@reddit
I’ll ask a different question - how will you know when you have enough to retire? The number in your mind might be right, might not be. Perhaps meet with a financial advisor who can do an assessment of your assets and future plans. Some will caution you not to let them invest for you but I do use my advisor for this. It depends on your comfort level. A fiduciary advisor on a fixed rate will just advise you for what is in your best interest, not theirs.
gonegilligone@reddit
This. I was 56 and decided it was enough.
phenolate@reddit
5 years ago I requested to leave my global R&D director position and return to the lab as a bench chemist. Yes, big pay cut but I'm much happier now not having to travel so much, manage people, and deal with corporate bureaucracy and politics. Management knows my history and pretty much stay out of my way as I run my own research projects. I'm 58 and will probably do this for \~10 more years.
2000TWLV@reddit
Same here. I don't feel old and I've got plenty energy, but I just don't care anymore. Been laid off for no reason so many times that I don't give two shits about all these greedy companies at this point.
Too bad that so much energy now has to go to staying focused just enough to stay employed so that it can pay my kids' crushing college bills.
If I can help them get started without student debt, that's mission accomplished.
Skobotinay@reddit
Balance until you figure out your landing plan. Take a trip or two. My mom used these small vacation as motivation after raising five kids and working. Little steps. What movie was that from? Find a hobby and embrace it s little at a time. You never know it might actually open into something cool. A friend of mine started his own business. Another became a park ranger. Redefined « job » but expanded self. Best of luck.
mrsredfast@reddit
Baby steps. From What About Bob?
Baby steps onto the bus…with a goldfish around his neck. 😊
MemoFromTurner77@reddit
r/coastfire
r/baristafire
Check out both subs for ideas on how to pull this off.
fergal-dude@reddit
I have avoided this by never working for a corp. I can't imagine working hard to make someone else a profit...
marcjones281@reddit
How much do you have saved?
How much are you making and how much of that are you saving?
Electronic_Name_325@reddit
And please share your vehicle history. That is one of the best clues in my experience, especially early in one’s career.
PomegranatePlus6526@reddit
A couple of years ago I took a lower responsibility job I at a non profit with great benefits. I work 7.5 hours a day. Don’t make as much money, but don’t have nearly as much BS either. I don’t have any debt and we live in a very LCOL area so my expenses are low. Plus I work part time doing something I like to make extra money. It really helps keep burnout at bay.
emmalegs@reddit
You don’t know, you could die next week! How much is “enough”? I wish I could accurately describe the incredible relief of getting away from the corporate work life. The sun came out, the birds began to sing…my entire body is feeling it. I hope you escape YESTERDAY.
Secret-Avocado-Lover@reddit
Find a way to be happy for the next 5 years. You are one layoff from being unemployable because of your age and tax bracket. I was laid off from Fortune 100 about 7 years ago and it’s been rough sledding. I’ve been through three different companies, mostly PE and start ups that valued my experience but job hunting every 2 years sucks and it’s getting harder as I age. I miss the stability and consistency that corporate America gave and I took it somewhat for granted. You have golden handcuffs, it’s five years, play pickleball and become a functioning alcoholic like a normal Gen Xer. (I’m joking, don’t drink…)
Franky-Fontaine@reddit
I am almost your same age and have been in corporate America (IT) for the same number of years. After years of long commutes as an IT consultant, I became an independent contractor, which freed me up to choose where and how I worked with my own clients. I work from home at the moment, and although the flexibility helps with family stuff, the work itself is soul crushing. I feel I am burned out from the corporate world. I no longer have the drive to learn something new, start a new project, or for hell's sake step into a corporate office building for an occasional on-site meeting. I cannot wait to delete Microsoft Teams from my phone. When I was in college, I looked forward to a successful career in corporate America, and I have been fortunate. But sooner or later your mind says you've done enough. We were planning to retire in 2 years, but my wife lost her Marketing job and now I cover all the bills including health benefits. My nest egg is healthy, but my CFP said 1-2 more years of working would make it bullet proof. I am mentally checked out of my work, which never happened before. Been this way for a year now, and I am not working to the level of my own standards.
One thing that seems to help me is envisioning my next chapter. I was always a "planner" when I was young (and driven). So now I am envisioning different gigs I can do outside of the corporate realm. In some cases I may need to get training and credentials, but that doesn't bother me. Just envisioning this next chapter keeps me going. I am hoping to make it to the end of the year. Then use the rule of 55 to begin withdrawing from my 401k when needed.
See if you can find something on the side that interests you. Finding some balance may lighten the weight of the corporate sludge that exhausts us mentally. Best of luck to you.
Guardsred70@reddit
I feel your pain.....in a way. I've worked very hard to stay at the pointy end of things and NOT get slurped into leadership too soon. Because those guys get fired and then they have lost their technical skills.
I plan to keep going hard for about another 10 years while job hopping (since the kids are gone now).....and then I'm going to find a position where I can sorta slack off a bit and have people saying, "Ugh....we can't fire him. He's old. I'm sure he'll retire next year."
leshbombs@reddit
MeanMuggin-Capybara@reddit
Same age, same situation. I know I won't last too much longer in the corporate world. Last year pushed me way beyond my limits, so I unilaterally decided to go remote 4 days a week and move 1.5 hours away to a quiet rural town, and I'm so much happier here. Whatever happens next, happens. I'll be ready.
Queasy-Let-6910@reddit
Mid 50's too and unfortunately, I'm reasonably convinced (more likely to happen then not) markets will tank to some extent within the next 5 years when crypto currency market pops and the AI companies still aren't making enough return to justify the massive cost outlays.
Fritzo2162@reddit
Crypto doesn't really follow any rules- the whales control that market. When they need money then pump and dump, and there's no rules preventing them from doing that.
As far as AI, that's 100% going to happen. I work in the industry and the things they're selling AI on don't t actually exist in the way it's being portrayed. The whole market is based on vaporware. Couple this with public opinion HATING the product and a marketing campaign of "Buy our product so it can put you out of a job, influence our politics, and possibly make humans obsolete," and you have the setup for a 2008-style market crash.
DogsAreOurFriends@reddit
I am a few years older, staring 60 in the face.
This will sound stupid, but I listen to Gus Fring's "A man provides" speech daily.
I hate it, I am trying desperately to hang in there for two years until the youngest is through college, but to be honest there is probably enough in the 529 to get him through if he lives at home.
Another issue is health care. How to pay for it? I am laser focused on health now, lost a ton of weight, eating right working out, staying off ladders - prevention... but how long can that last... and what if something bad happens?
DarkAngela12@reddit
It's the healthcare that makes it seem hopeless to me.
bigredthesnorer@reddit
I am very similar to you. Also in tech. Also dealing with a shit show of a company. I've lost weight, more focused on improving myself, but am concerned about the damage already done to my DNA. So I am less focused on work (no more working nights and weekends b/c IDGAF about my career path, just staying employed) and try to enjoy more, travel more, etc.
CharlesTremble@reddit
I regenerate myself by mentoring younger staff. They (hopefully) get some benefit by my having done everything so many times before and I get a fresh perspective and satisfaction of seeing them succeed. It's easier to do something for the 10,000th time when somebody is beside you asking questions and getting excited about it instead of sitting in my office alone doing the same while I watch the clock tick.
dcwarrior@reddit
Wow I’m in the identical situation. I’m 56 and tired of my high paying job. I plan to look now for a less stressful job that I can tolerate until I’m 60 or older. I have no issue if it’s lower paying, which it probably would be.
jenmoocat@reddit
This was me this year. 57.
Worked at 5 different Fortune 500 companies for the past 35 years.
This last one for the past 16.
But I was just burned out and didn't really care anymore -- especially when compared with my earlier passion.
I was a rockstar at work. But recently I just found it all exhausting.
Especially living through one "transformation" (i.e. downsizing) after another.
So I met with a financial planner and asked: given my money saved, what are a couple of different scenarios for monthly expenses that I could bear and for how long? And he gave me several that were very do-able.
So I quit my job a month ago!
Not sure I want to say "retired" -- because I'd like to maybe do some consulting, if I get bored.
But -- WOO HOO -- it is amazing to not have work issues weighing on my mind!
Completely different from a long vacation or even a sabbatical.
However, it was also a difficult epiphany to recognize that all of the hard work that I did -- the incredible contributions that I made (that actually changed the course of my company) -- just fade away, out of peoples' memories....
Ok_Drawing_1762@reddit
I can’t see waiting another 10-15 years to “see” if I have enough money to relax.
Liquidating and becoming professionally poor in 2028. Youngest graduates this week, they have a foundation. Done fighting to look like middle class… Put me on some dirt acreage, and come visit.
East-Philosophy@reddit
Can you start your own consulting business? Or just switch to a smaller company or a nonprofit?
s1l1c0n3@reddit
I'm not suicidal, but I don't exactly want to be alive either. Things are grim for me and I can't imagine going much past 55
moocat55@reddit
I can't explain it, but I felt like this in my fifties and don't in my 60s, even with decreased health now. I'm just in a better place mentally and I did nothing to help myself. I think it's hormonal. So, tough it out. But, getting mental health support has got to be better than just miserably plowing through it like I did, with all the temper tantrums I had along the way.
s1l1c0n3@reddit
I dunno. I’m just not feeling life anymore. Especially now with motions towards the American dumpster fire under Trump
Calm-Lavishness5918@reddit
Is there any way to add a hobby or other activity that will engage you/scratch an itch to look forward to? You could do this part time as you still work full time.
Fritzo2162@reddit
I feel you. I stayed out of the corporate world on purpose, but I deal with it because of my IT career. Been doing this for 30 years, and the amount of responsibility on a daily basis is simply draining. Having to fix things, constantly upgrade my skills, and be on guard 24x7 leaves me dreading activities I used to love because the now get classified as "work."
I'm well paid, and my job has provided a great life for my family, but I'm 55 and wondering if I'm going to make it another 10 years.
Electrical_Ad2652@reddit
Take a vacation and recharge
dyverthesprit@reddit
This is all of us.
Important_Mud_6700@reddit
I retired at 58. After grinding away since college probably 60 hours a week, babysitting in middle school, and working in high and college as well. We are like hamsters on a wheel. It sucks.
I retired early even though I knew I would have less money than if I stayed 7 more years. I spend less now. No more FICA out of every paycheck. But the peace of mind and ability to self-determine my days has been worth the pay cut
trouble0322@reddit
Ditto, but I did so at 45. I will not sell my soul to make a billionaire richer.
acanis73@reddit
Left corporte at 42, 10 years ago. Dont miss it at all
TheRealFinatic13@reddit
60 and am down to 110 working days left. I cant wait to leave the daily grind, wint spend 1 day more than I have to.
Definitely have a side hustle to keep you busy in retirement though. I am looking forward to putting more tine into my business, not the man's business.
Cali_Longhorn@reddit
It’s always been my plan to be able to retire at 55-57 if possible. Not that I HAVE to. But I wanted to be retired at an age early enough to actually enjoy it. Not retire straight into health problems. Plus ageism is real, I’m trying to be ready for a layoff in my mid 50s and be able to say “F it!” If that happens and just be retired. I watched my dad struggle to get hired again after he took an early retirement package assuming he’d get another easily in his mid 50s until he REALLY retired. It didn’t go like he thought…
In America the rub is health care coverage tied to a job (though the ACA offer some relief). I have a wife who wants to continue working and my healthcare could move to her. I know not everyone has that option though.
Lakers1moretime2021@reddit
I was in your situation at 49, with 27 years of experience in fortune 250 company, so at that point I decided to work on my bills and get out of debt except for the house - it took me almost a year and half to have zero credit card debt, no car payment nothing except for the house. I also have more time to do things around the house that require me to pay for like cutting the grass, pressure washing, cleaning windows and cars (all where hired helped and bleed money everywhere).
So finally when I quit my job, it took me exactly a month to get a lower paying position, with less responsibilities but 20% less pay. It has been the best move I’ve made in my career. I don’t have direct reports, I travel less, I WFH, I can focus on deadlines and meet them, I should have done this long ago… I can see myself doing this for another 10-12 years and calling it quits; the intensity went from a 9 to a 2 🤷🏻♂️
You can do it, just carve out a plan, stick to it and don’t tell anyone what you are doing - good luck
BloodyBarbieBrains@reddit
My family all did jobs that were beneficial for society: arts, teaching, nursing. And we’re all fucking starving in old age, but our hearts were full while working.
Just ride out your soulless job. It’s just a different tradeoff than other people choose, and you don’t have long to go. Sorry, but I don’t feel sorry for people who picked that kind of career and make great money and are now… complaining.
leshbombs@reddit
54 and work for government- like watching paint dry. Should be set for retirement at 60. Health is my biggest concern.
kermitsfrogbog@reddit
I am 50. I need to squeeze at least 10 years out of my current level of employment. Plus another 5-7. If all goes well I can at least do something easier for a while before calling it quits.
I am absolutely burnt out. Dwelling on it doesn’t help though so I am working on shifting my attitude so I can survive it. I have a decent job for a good employer. I worry about him retiring and whether or not the kids will take over so I can keep my job. I am not holding my breath on finding the same pay anywhere else. It’s one day at a time now.
On a positive note, I have connections now in the business and am creating a side gig that could very well give me some security in the event this job winds down before I’m ready.
Princessferfs@reddit
I think we are nearly twins. I’m in the same boat. I do it for the money but I don’t even care at all anymore.
5 years until I can walk away from the game. Assuming that our retirement plan doesn’t crash.
I’m. So. Done.
digawina@reddit
The tricky part with that plan is getting someone to hire you in a job with benefits at 60 years old. You'd more likely just be forced into actual retirement.
Freeflying_Dragon@reddit
I just gave up and I'm 60. I decided to stop working and have enough money until age of 75. I have decided to step out at that time, thats enough living for me. With what's going on, I'm not spending my last days worrying about money and my health. Then put the burden on my child to care for me or put me in some place that smells like piss all the time. Been feeling no stress since accepting my plan and feeling freed. Living my best life now.
chillinwithabeer29@reddit
Talked to my financial guy yesterday and I’m ready to sign off for good from corporate world. At 59 there’s more I want to do than schlep to an office every day. What I do is interesting and fun, but the burn to do more, etc is now a low smolder at best. Have plenty of $ to continue lifestyle in retirement, so I’m a short timer here.
IgorRenfield@reddit
If you need the money, all I can offer is "tough it out" which you've probably heard your whole life. Have you considered making lifestyle changes, simplifying things, so you don't need a big income?
UnkleClarke@reddit
Me too. 47. Self employed for 25 years. Zero money in retirement accounts. $300k in a brokerage account. 25 apartments that being I. About $33,000 a month. So I should be able to retire pretty soon I hope. I just need to pay off some of the mortgages in the next two years.
Cest_Cheese@reddit
I’m 6 months older than you and retired in December. I kept freaking out about the numbers before I retired but money has been fine. Two agencies reached out to me this week about working part time for them, but I’m not ready to go back to work yet (or maybe ever!)
Firmod5@reddit
Are you me? I have, at most, 2 years but I am ready to walk now.
jrobski96@reddit
I'll soon be 56 and I just called in sick to work. I'm using all my leave before I retire. My .gov employer has the same BS you .com guys just a different flavor.
AstroStrat89@reddit
So far my .gov job is a nice change of pace compared to my .com jobs. But I know there are pros and cons to everything.
ParagraphGrrl@reddit
I'm in a pretty good place job-wise but my bestie is where you are. I worry about them. It seems to me you have three choices:
Lean into the job thing. Volunteer for the weird stuff, use your seniority to advocate for people coming up behind you (or clients, or the public), etc. Just try to entertain yourself until you're ready for the transition.
Really dig into your retirement plans and see if there is anything you can do to speed things up, or at least move to your "low-key job with benefits" earlier than originally planned.
Make your life outside work as rich as possible and use your seniority to keep your work life reasonable while you wait it out.
Which of those seems most reasonable to you?
Ray_The_Engineer@reddit
Yep, I'm in a similar situation. 36 years in the corporate world (I'm 59), and I'm ready for a different kind of work life. I made the money, we raised the kids, put them through college, and we don't have debt, so the time for a change is now. I like working in some capacity, but I'm ready for it to be on my terms. I dropped back to 20 hours/week with my current employer (they requested it when I tried to quit last November, lol), and it's been pretty great. I could probably do this for a while.
cattlekidvi@reddit
I am also 55 and would retire tomorrow if I could get health insurance. As a transplant recipient, anything but employer based insurance or Medicare is out of the question.
AlarmingMonk1619@reddit
Quiet quitting. Reign in your expenses.
Temporary_View_3303@reddit
I’m right there with you. Sometime in my 30s I realized I no longer cared about work…. at all. It’s a necessity but doesn’t interest me in the least. I just started saving everything I could. I’m 56 now and every day it’s a little bit harder to pretend I give a shit about my job. Thankfully I’m probably no more than a year away from being able to retire. I think I can make it but I’m not certain.
Myfanwy66@reddit
That five years is gonna FLY.
Substantial_Lion965@reddit
How did you find yourself in this position?
I had a coworker who would just take on everything because she was not satisfied with how other people do it. Never took a day off because that behavior made her valuable to everyone.
She snapped and left for Portugal.
My plan to avoid being where you are is to not take on too much. My health and time is worth more than money to me. Lucky I don't have a high cost of living with no desire for more.
AstroStrat89@reddit
I got unceremoniously dumped from the private sector corporate world at a little over 50. Just started a small public sector job that should get me to retirement. It's a whole different world. I was literally told I need to get out of my private sector mindset. I'm not going to get over my recent PTSD and waiting for the other shoe to drop for a while but I think it's the best scenario I could have hoped for.
baziik66@reddit
Just turned 60 and am fully aware of the fact that I will likely work until I die.
binarysmart@reddit
I feel you 100 percent! All I want to do now is pay off debt so I can retire
Sindertone@reddit
Sounds like you are spending too much, or have too high expectations of your retirement expendatures. Even on my modest retirement budget I have several weeks of traveling a year. What are you doing with all that money?
Swimming-Fondant-892@reddit
Same, I have 5 years to go. What has helped me was trt. My natural production had fallen off and had lots of negative affects. My motivation and mental state has improved now.
PhantomOfTheAttic@reddit
So you're going to spend another 5 years unhappy with life? How do you know how much time you have left after that?
Can you move somewhere with a lower cost of living, get a lower paying job and retire now?
I would hate to get up every day and drive to a job I hated. What is the point of life then?
GeneralBobby@reddit
I've been dealing with burnout for years but have not been able to deal with that. Anxiety and ADHD have me perpetually on edge. Physically, I've beaten the everloving shit out of my body and receipts have come due and my walk is quickly turning into a hobble. Prostitutes aren't the only ones who sell their body for work ..
Yeah. I've been done for years but mortgage needs to be paid.
Novel_Pin_6784@reddit
I think 55ish is the age it starts hitting us all. What we did: full bore max get out of debt. It took 3 years. Fortunately, I have a pension. That pension is enough for us to live comfortably. At 62 I will be able to start getting my money back that we have to put into social security. At that time (we hope) we can start doing what we want, when we want.
Debt is the destroyer of dreams.
Best of luck!
Substantial_Lion965@reddit
My steak too juicy; my lobster too buttery
trUth_b0mbs@reddit
retirement age in my country is 65. Fuck that. Will be retiring in the next 5yrs (at 55) and not here; will be moving abroad where my dollar will go much farther.
everyone I know, including myself, is just tired of working. So what we're all doing it seems (have talked to my friends and they're doing the same lol) - work your hours and that's it. No more over and above, no more exceeding expectations. You pay me for the work I do and leave me alone.
I will work to the best of my ability from log in to log off time but not a minute more. I will take my full 60min lunch and breaks that I am legally allowed to have. They will not get a second more of my time unless they pay me.
this is how we're all trying to make it through.
obstreperousRex@reddit
I have worked in manufacturing for 30+ years. I ran out of gas a couple of years ago after dealing with a minor collapse of my career involving Covid then going through prostate cancer.
I just don't have the energy or the drive to do this anymore. I go to work and put in the barest minimum required so I can keep a roof over my head.
---TC---@reddit
I take as much time off as I can. I take all my PTO, I find ways to lower my work load or "load manage". I'm 58 and I want to work for 5 more years.. but I know I'm going to have to be diligent with my work load.
For context, I work for a multi-national too.
mrshagzsf@reddit
Same. And I’m starting to have medical issues too. Affects my work and I feel like a target now.
wingmaneffect@reddit
29 years into my career and I’m too young to retire with any health benefits and too tired to make it to 55. I’m really worn out physically and emotionally. Partner is a little older and plans to retire at 55 so I may just hop on to their benefits despite the cost.
I feel ya, friend. Hoping the market doesn’t tank as well!
Darth_Bane-0078@reddit
I'm in education and next school year will be 30 for me. I have 5 years left to get full retirement from my state. I'm not sure I can do it. Earlier in life, 5 years flew by but now it's crawling by and it gets harder to get out of be physically and emotionally. I only have a car payment and the high cost of living holding me back. My retirement lady was always telling me to go beyond 61 to maximize my money but after her boyfriend died suddenly she's telling me to get out and really live instead of working.
bigredthesnorer@reddit
I'm on the GenJones end of GenX. My recommendation is to not plan on 67, but try to go earlier like 65 or even sooner. I am ready to go now but need a few more years (last kid is halfway through college plus am concerned about sequence of returns risk in today's world). We had always planned for 67 but wish now that our planning was for 60.
Retire as early as you can to enjoy those 'go go' retirement years.
Ok-Till-5285@reddit
I took a different position in the same company, for the past couple years, it has given me a new lease on life. I am now 60 and contemplating retirement because I am also tired but no longer desperate to leave. If some things turn out I will be gone by fall and looking for a part time job for a couple years.
Good luck fellow GenX, I can tell you the last few years have flown by.
lectroid@reddit
Good luck with finding a new job. At 60, they’ll either expect you to know everything you need. No training. Hit the ground running or get lost. What’s that? You’re not trying for a senior position, you just want a low stress job, you’ll take entry level pay? No thanks, you’re overqualified. You might get bored and quit. You’re old, you’ll take more sick days, you’ll know your rights and won’t be bullied into unpaid overtime, etc etc. much easier to hire a recent grad.
Maybe you’re fortunate and have a lot of widely applicable skills so you won’t have some of these issues. I hope so. If the job isn’t actually breaking you mentally or physically, I’d stay with it as long as possible. Work sucks, but not making rent/mortgage is worse.
fatkidscandystore@reddit
49 with a 2 year old. I’m in it for the long haul.
DangerousBS@reddit
I had my son at 50. I am still, same as OP, in fortune 100, corporate world. Regardless of the age of your kids, work pressure is a thing, and not for everyone, but agree kids will give you energy, either because you are constantly moving or just pure responsibility.
soft__parade@reddit
Same. Just 8 years older. Hang in there. Was exhausted first few years. The trip gets better.
mlgbt1985@reddit
Ian 59 I am out of steam too. I can’t keep up with the pace of change/technology anymore.
Defiant_Property_336@reddit
exact same for me too - im 52 and just tryin to make it to 62 and then im gonna do something not corporate with health bennies. corp america is so fng dumb.
This-Dude_Abides@reddit
Got laid off a couple of years ago and started freelancing and working from home and have never been happier. And I hear ya man- I'm tired boss!
NoneyaBizzy@reddit
Similar plan. I think I'm going to have a hard time actually making the move when it comes time. I'm a pessimist, and I know I'll keep looking and saying "It's not enough yet" even if it is.
Miserable_Jacket_129@reddit
I didn’t have what I thought was “enough” to retire at 50, but I did it anyway.
Ended up forming a nonprofit that turned into a full time job and picked up a side gig delivering industrial fasteners that pays living expenses.
Take the leap man, your quality of life will improve exponentially.
Sea_Machine4580@reddit
Run your numbers through Chat GPT. 35 is a lot of years that you have contributed to retirement funds, etc. You might be a lot closer than you think. Especially you may find that you don't need to work until 67. Check out the lean Fire sub for more ideas.
TraditionalBackspace@reddit
Exact same thing for me. I've grown so tired of the culture and bad decisions. Old ideas that didn't work recycled as new ones with shiny new names. Reorgs that you know will make everyone's lives harder with no benefit. When you have figured out the game, it's hard to continue. I'm saving and investing as much as I can by living way below my means, cooking and fixing things myself where I can, and minimizing non-essential expenses. The company could toss me on my ass any time and I'd likely not find a job that pays even close to this one. I don't want to be rich. I want to be free and comfortable.
Mr-E-3345@reddit
I mean if you’ve done it 35 years and don’t have a retirement plan then something is wrong. My question is if you stay 5 more years what changes for your retirement? If you leave now and get an easy job does that job need to make a certain amount to live off of or is it just a cushion for retirement money?
Smokeshow-Joe@reddit
Same- a few years behind you. If it was just me, I’d be done already.- looking for the exit now though.
Oiggamed@reddit
For the last 50 years, with some exception, I have been going somewhere everyday that I don’t want to go, to do something I don’t want to do. I’m fucking tired of it.
TheCreepyKing@reddit
If you've been making good money for a while and have been disciplined in your saving, you ought to be able to retire by now. At some point, each of us will have more money than time. You need to figure out when it is for you and act accordingly.