ULPT request: License Plate Readers
Posted by bennyd45@reddit | UnethicalLifeProTips | View on Reddit | 48 comments
Trying to find the right sub...hopefully someone here has some ideas: My employer has just started requiring us to pay for parking. We're on a hybrid work schedule, 3 days in the office and 2 days remote. However, due to my job, I have to be in the office at least 4 days out of the week. Here's the question: A "hybrid" parking permit is a lot cheaper than a full time permit, but only allows parking 3 days a week. We have parking enforcement cars that come around with those electronic plate readers. They don't come out every day, but there's no set schedule that I can determine (probably just whenever someone's available to drive the car). Is there a way to build some kind of device so that I know when my car's license plate has been scanned? That way I could potentially get the cheaper permit, know whether my "3 days" have really been accounted for and park at the shopping center down the road for 1 day if necessary.
Emergency_Goose686@reddit
Also, ask employer to cover extra parking, ask others to do the same.
greasyjimmy@reddit
Ask for a raise equivalent to the 5 day a week parking.
What kind of employer makes their employees pay to work?
cusehoops98@reddit
A lot of employers require permits that are purchased. Hospitals, city government, universities. This is not uncommon.
bennyd45@reddit (OP)
Yeah, it's a multi-use campus in an urban area. Parking is in a central lot that gets used by everybody that comes to that area. We've always had our parking covered by the company, but I guess times are hard and they just announced they're no longer going to cover our parking... There's been LOTS of complaints raised though, so maybe they'll reconsider! In the mean time it's a fun project to think about!
Verified_source_@reddit
Sounds like you all should walk out until they fix the parking issue. I had a job they required traveling, they didn’t make me pay for flights, I didn’t pay for global entry or tsa precheck. Because it’s required to perform. Kind of like being at work for you so they should fix their mistake instead of make it the employees burden
ArcadeAmateur@reddit
If the company can't afford their employees, they dont deserve employees.
m8k@reddit
I work in a city 35 miles away. I either have to take public transit for $18-22/day (train and parking) or drive in and pay $30-35/day to park at one of the lots by our office. We are hybrid and expected in the office 2-3 days a week but this Iran situation with the gas prices is making me have some thoughts about asking for less days in-office.
Able-Sheepherder-154@reddit
My public state owned university. The closer to campus you get, the more expensive the lots are. It's better than the meters and ramps but is still a hated thing.
Strong-Ad2738@reddit
I was in the same situation at my old job at the university. If I was running late due to traffic it cost me $30 to park. It sucked.
Pit-Viper-13@reddit
This sounds like a perfect job for a Trunk Monkey!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qYylz4UDQdk
No_Educator_6376@reddit
Get some black electrical tape and change a number on the plate so it reads a different number remove it after two days
m0n3ym4n@reddit
May be cheaper to slip the parking enforcement guy a $50 every now and then and make sure he know what car you drive
tutty29@reddit
If it reads as a different plate, the system would flag it as not having a permit at all, so that'd mean a ticket.
No_Educator_6376@reddit
You need to find out the registered numbers and use someone else’s number occasionally get free parking all week
purplepashy@reddit
Take your plate off when you park.
Leaving thrm with nothing to scan leaves you with nothing to pay.
bennyd45@reddit (OP)
instant ticket
Ban_Assault_Ducks@reddit
You should not have to pay to work. If it were me, and no solution could be found, I'd do anything I could to cost the company double of what the parking for each day was that you have to pay extra for. That is absurd. Always make it cost the other side more to do the wrong thing than it would be to do the right thing.
have2gopee@reddit
Buy a big bag of dirt from the garden store and keep it in your trunk. Every morning, take a handful of dirt, add a bit of water, and smear it over the plate to obscure most of it. If it's been wiped off by the end of the day, they've probably scanned it. If someone questions you on it, just say your driveway is really muddy.
Ban_Assault_Ducks@reddit
This is a brilliant idea
StateUnlikely4213@reddit
This would probably be the solution I would use.
Albert14Pounds@reddit
No way of knowing it's been "scanned" because they're just using a pretty normal camera and software that reads the letters and numbers.
bennyd45@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I was kinda thinking that, but the ones that drive around here flash a yellow/orange light at about 100 - 200 hz. I'm thinking that's some kind of infrared flash unit that helps highlight the license plate. If I could figure out a way to detect that flash frequency and pattern I could probably build some kind of circuit that would log every time it sensed that pattern passing by my car. I'm gona have to film one of those cars and see if I can figure that out.
Also thought about reverse warfare... buying a used plate reader and logging the license plates of all the parking enforcement cars, but that sounds it would be cheaper just to pay for the additional parking 😄
stevenmc@reddit
Can't you cover your car with a tarp when parked? Surely you have that right and nobody can interfere with your property.
Dougally@reddit
Negotiating the 4 days at work down to 3 to fit with the parking deal or ask work to pay (in some form) for your special situation.
ArcadeAmateur@reddit
Put a GPS tracker on the parking enforcement cart. Take a break and leave the garage when you see them nearby.
vodiak@reddit
GPS probably won't work in a parking garage, but a Bluetooth tracker might (Tile or AirTag) if you leave a phone in the car. It may alert the driver if their own phone picks it up though.
ArcadeAmateur@reddit
It doesn't need to work in the garage. You just need to know if they are near the garage.
vodiak@reddit
I was thinking of the scan vehicle starting and stopping in the garage. If it comes from outside, a GPS tracker would work, sure.
NextBestHyperFocus@reddit
Movement activated dashcam and spend however long it takes to check at the end of the third day. That sounds exhausting though
diablodeldragoon@reddit
It will also kill your battery pretty quick if there's a lot of movement in the area.
kevinh456@reddit
Not really. I have a front and rear dash cam running off a battery tap. I’ve gone on trips where it didn’t get turned on for over a week and it started just fine. If op is worried buy one of those jump starters.
That said, it’s going to be a LOT of footage…
diablodeldragoon@reddit
I had a 900cca battery from my truck in my nissan versa. The dashcam killed the battery in 3 days the first time. If I didn't drive far enough after leaving it on overnight, it would kill it by the end of the workday.
Beastly_Swagger@reddit
Get a bike rack that covers your plate Allen 2 bike racks at Walmart work.
Pit_27@reddit
Do you think they’ll check more than 3 times a week?
bennyd45@reddit (OP)
Just don't know...
miraculum_one@reddit
What happens if they scan you more than the 3 day limit? Do they just charge you for an extra day?
bennyd45@reddit (OP)
Don't know... I expect I'll find out though! I figure I'll get a $40.00 parking ticket. That's the usual for parking in the lot without a permit, though maybe they'll just give a warning the first couple times?
miraculum_one@reddit
If they only occasionally ticket you then it might be worth just doing it that way.
Content-Rabbit-9865@reddit
We have been paying the University to park as employees. All facility/Student/Visitors pay for parking. We pay $500 per year.
WHAT-IM-THINKING@reddit
Buy vintage plates and slap them on whenever you enter garage
oxfay@reddit
Refuse to go to work until your company starts paying for your parking again.
bhilliardga@reddit
Get yourself a license plate reader, find out the license plates of the car using their reader, and establish pattern.
Connect-Ask-3820@reddit
Get fake plates and register them for the more expensive pass. Then share that plate with 1 or 2 other coworkers. The plate can be used every day since it’s fully registered but you split the cost and everyone pays less.
ManfromMonroe@reddit
Splatter some mud across the back of your car. Of course you’ll have to renew it fairly frequently…
TrashpandaLizz@reddit
Sometimes I wonder if we are teaching AI ways that we counteract detection…
Such-Mountain-6316@reddit
This seems to have a serious case of diminishing returns, at least according to the suggestions at this point. Consider a Lyft/Uber that fourth day or maybe have a family member or friend drop you off.
There might be something like a spray that you can apply though. Maybe mix Vaseline and glitter to try to confuse the reader. But I think they're going to realize something is going on, fairly fast.
BugBugRoss@reddit
Many government vehicles.emit tons of data.
Cars have unique Bluetooth and Wi-Fi mac addresses. So do many body cams, holsters, tasers and LPRs.
oh and RFID tags from tires and pressure sensors that are easy to detect and automate responses to.
And then the driver themselves will have more stuff typical of their phone, headset, speakers, etc.
You'll need to research purchase orders to get model numbers or log some data and video to correlate the signals.
There are some GitHub projects to get you started. Look at the orgs that publish anti flock camera devices for hints.
Very doable for couple hours work and $50
stevemyqueen@reddit
Get a part time job with the parking service, emerge at the top of the feudal hierarchy and fix yourself up w a solid parking situation. Nothing says power like towing your boss’s Escalade