Political executions surge in Iran since start of war
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ThevaramAcolytus@reddit
Amid a war where the sole nuclear-armed regional power and a vicious superpower empire led by a megalomaniacal crook are aiming to utterly destroy them as a country, openly threaten their civilization with extermination, and boast about having their intelligence officers and agents on the attacked country's streets to sow terrorism and chaos.
Gee, I can't imagine why.
Eexoduis@reddit
What percentage of the people to be executed are “intelligence officers and agents”?
ThevaramAcolytus@reddit
It's impossible to know that from an outside vantage point.
2times34point5@reddit
The US president admitted in an interview to sending arms to Iranian protesters. These were used to shoot people in the streets where hospitals, mosques, police stations, and government buildings were shot at and burned down.
Is anyone surprised that the iranian government would harshly punish those who sided with the enemy?
Here’s my source
Rulweylan@reddit
So to be clear, any country known to have IRGC agents in it would also have your support to execute anyone they claim to be such an agent?
2times34point5@reddit
No i dont support any violence.
Iran was engaged in “very productive” negotiations with the US according to the Omani mediators when they were attacked unprovoked. Their leader was murdered in his house along with his family and even grandkids. Ancient Synagogues were bombed to the ground, schools full of children were destroyed.
From their viewpoint they have been under crippling sanctions for almost 50 years and now the US/Israel alliance is bent on mass murdering those who haven’t been starved to death.
And you westerners are obsessed with blaming Iran for that.
Eexoduis@reddit
In your own source Trump explains that the guns he sent never made it to the protestors.
This is what revolution looks like. Police stations and military checkpoints will be shot and burned. This is what it will look like in Gaza, the West Bank, the US, etc.
Will you cheer the Israeli government when it lines up Gazan protestors and executes them all? Will you admonish the protestors for “causing chaos”?
If you are a real person you’re incredibly stupid and biased
2times34point5@reddit
I am biased against any group that deliberately blows up elementary schools full of children.
You should take a look in the mirror bud and question why you are like this. For israel? Lol
Zipz@reddit
I know in every other situation you would say that same source is untrustworthy and a liar
So why is it now all of a sudden you believe him?
2times34point5@reddit
You just know i would, right?
Nah buddy, your child rapist president has the tendency to let the truth out from time to time.
here is another example
milton117@reddit
It seems you didn't watch your own source because trump says it never got to Iran. Typical of you people though.
2times34point5@reddit
Ah yeah true so all the shooting and killing and burning down of government buildings had nothing to do with this.
You should try taking netanyahu’s weiner out of your mouth.
GerryAdamsSon@reddit
Honestly it's absolutely no surprise that there has been a surge in executions considering the past few months of Israeli and United States interference in the country.
Considering that Israeli officials confirmed that Mossad is working on the ground during the attempted colour revolution which didn't work out, it's genuinely no surprise that Iranian intelligence picked them and their collaborators up
Thorneas@reddit
"it was to be expected" shouldn't be used to glance over it or saying it is okay. Yes, it is expected. But only because of how brutal and horrific the Iranian regime is. So the main message is not "should have expected that" but "because Iran is brutal, oppressive regime, we were expecting it".
Your framing sound like it is normal, good even.
VizzzyT@reddit
The execution of people commuting treason surges in every war..did you think other countries just let people try and overthrow the state with foreign backing?
Nearly every country executes people for treason.
GerryAdamsSon@reddit
I don't criticise a government for defending itself against collaborators who are working with countries that want to destroy it no
Pretty sure people have been executed for treason in many countries, including the US.
I don't consider the Iranian government to be any more or less brutal than any other oppressive dictatorships in that region such as Saudi Arabia or the UAE. Both good friends of the west.
NetworkLlama@reddit
No one has been executed for treason in the US since 1862.
GerryAdamsSon@reddit
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed for 'spying for the Soviet Union'
NetworkLlama@reddit
They were executed for espionage, not treason.
Firecracker048@reddit
Nah man you dont get it, because the US executed one man for it, one time, its perfectly reasonable that Iran does it hundreds of times a year!
We just need to ignore the fact that they've killed women for offenses as low as not wearing a head covering, and the two are totally the same!
NetworkLlama@reddit
Well, two people. But yes.
Treason definitions vary by country. In the US, it's so tightly defined that treason charges rarely are even considered except in the most egregious instances. In other countries, it is more broadly defined. For example, in the UK, it is, broadly, disloyalty to the crown. Merely planning to assassinate the monarch, their spouse, or the immediate heir could be considered treasonous behavior, whereas in the US, conspiring to assassinate the president is a criminal charge, but never treason (no matter how much the current officeholder wants it to be). In some autocratic regimes, disobeying an order to do something reprehensible such as massacring civilians has been seen as treason.
Definitions matter. "Working against your country," as they said in another reply to me, can be (and has been) so broadly construed that calling for a change of government could be seen as treason. That would make for a very difficult country in which to live.
GerryAdamsSon@reddit
As are most people in Iran so it underscores my point, I used the word treason though as it's working against your country
WafflesTrufflez@reddit
So much this, who are we to judge them on how they fight against a barrage of espionage like the Mossad/CIA who recruits people to csuse so much problem.
Like do we judge what the allies do to the collaborator
Thorneas@reddit
And you of course believe they are all traitors. Not just people who want freedom, people with different opinions on how to run a state or just people the government doesn't like (for absolutely any reason).
And you would say exactly the same if USA did this - judicialy killing thousands of people opposed to the government - with the same reasoning - to be expected, nothing to talk about.
So either you really think so, then I don't believe you have a correct information or you just don't want to find the truth. Or you don't, which means you are just spouting propaganda which you know is not truth.
FederalSandwich1854@reddit
Hey can we get foreign governments to start funneling arms into the Czech Republic? Let's also push them to start violent protests where they shoot police and burn down churches. For good measure we can also get bombers in the air to bomb the president of the country, and also bomb all the infrastructure in Prague and maybe a few elementary schools just to be safe.
Oh and if the Czech police/security end up killing civilians in the crossfire, that means we are allowed to invade them
Valensre@reddit
If that led to them being ruled by a bunch of insane Christian fundementalists I wouldn't be crowing about how misunderstood they are.
ThevaramAcolytus@reddit
The Iranian state has every understandable reason under the sun to be vengeful without limit against the foreign aggressors which have targeted their country since the early 1950s.
Valensre@reddit
Sure, they do. And?
Are we supposed to like a bunch of mullahs running the country?
The people are the victims.
ThevaramAcolytus@reddit
I don't agree with and care for the ideology and many of the domestic policies of the Iranian state (though I could say that of most, if not all, national governments historically or present-day).
But the Iranian government has every right - and I would even argue obligation to, defend their country from foreign powers who seek to do it harm.
Because everyone knows full well that the interests or welfare of the Iranian people isn't on the mind of those foreign adversarial power for even a second and that therefore the conflict isn't about that. They just want either a puppet state to control directly or, failing that, a failed state to try to encourage the country and those same people to destroy and cannibalize themselves from within.
Valensre@reddit
Did I ever argue that they dont have a right to defend themselves? I have family over there, my thoughts are pretty clear on the matter.
But answer me this, do you actually think that everyone getting swept up in these purges is guilty?
What percentage would it be for you to support them? A slight majority? Couple thousand innocents hung for the 'greater good' ?
ThevaramAcolytus@reddit
Do I actually think that everyone liquidated by the state is guilty of the charges brought? I have no meaningful way of knowing either way, but I would say that likely not, since false imprisonment and convictions are a thing the world over, the burden of proof/evidence is low, and they are in a state of political hypervigilance to fend off a perceived existential crisis.
As for where drawing the line and all that, where everyone draws it is going to be different. I would say that my position on that matter would defer to wherever the Iranian state deems necessary for the line to be placed in order to shore up their internal security to a sufficient degree and prevail in this conflict.
Valensre@reddit
...You are aware that you are talking about a theocratic dictatorship, right?
Unless that is your ideal form of government I have no idea why people like yourself are holding them up on a pedestal.
If a theocratic dictatorship isn't your ideal form of government would you accept that you're a campist?
ThevaramAcolytus@reddit
Absolutely unapologetically campist in that sense, without question.
My only concern is that a semblance of balance of power can be maintained - toward the end of the prevention by any means necessary of the forcible domination and unification of the globe under one superpower or any power or state and its ideologically-in-lockstep geopolitical bloc pushing an ideology I disagree with.
Having the planet and humanity under the thumb of one power, one bloc, and one ideology is the absolute worst case scenario, leaving nowhere for alternative and rival systems and means of development and nowhere to escape to except outer space.
For the purpose of opposition to that - actions which make it less likely to come to pass - in any corner of the planet, absolutely anything can be justified.
The theocratic nature of the Iranian government is beyond irrelevant in that context. They're not even close to taking over one region, let alone Earth. So more power to them fighting whomever is closer to it with everything at their disposal.
Valensre@reddit
Okay, well we just aren't going to agree on anything because I have family suffering over there and I think campism is utterly ridiculous.
That's paving a road to hell in a nutshell, and you aren't even pretending it's with good intentions.
If you want something better you should probably start with your methodology of getting there. Or not, dunno why I'm bothering honestly.
ThevaramAcolytus@reddit
Yes, I was quite aware from the outset that there'd be no agreement reached as we're coming from diametrically opposing worldviews with completely opposed interests, desiring very much a different path and trajectory for the world. So it is what it is and we're squarely on opposing sides.
But it's nice sometimes when those exchanging even geopolitically and ideologically hostile and extreme opposite views can at least be upfront and honest about that, as I believe we have been. So thanks for the exchange regardless.
Valensre@reddit
I'm not a campist for the US/Israel. I am only diametrically opposed to you as I don't see the end goal of what you want actually being that much different
But yes that's why I'm on here anyways.
MobileSuitBooty@reddit
Exactly so while we sit and pontificate over whether it’s right or not our collective government are allowing the US to bully not just Iran but a whole host of other countries.
We give Iran every excuse to be as brutal as possible against any sort of agitation because they can blame it on “outside influences”. So every time we try to justify our interference we allow the window of permissive speech to include debate on whether they’re oppressive or not when the conversation should always squarely land at the feet of the western world the carnage and allowing it to happen.
It not only puts iranians in trouble but the rest of
the world. 9/11 was a real thing that resulted in the deaths of millions and may more displaced.
Valensre@reddit
Well, unlike what seems to be a lot of people on here I'm not a campist.
If the US was bombing Saudis Arabian cities I'd be against it and vote against it. But I wouldnt be on here simping for bin Salman.
FederalSandwich1854@reddit
Being ruled by a bunch of insane and vengeful Judeo-Christian fundamentalists describes the US perfectly. So are you open protestors being armed to the teeth in your country and for American infrastructure to be bombed?
Valensre@reddit
No. Notice that I'm not for Iran either.
Define 'nuance'.
KronusTempus@reddit
Easy to talk about freedoms and human rights while sitting in Prague sipping beers after a long 2 hr day of work.
You come off like that “if you’re homeless, just buy a house” girl.
Nobody’s been bothering to interfere in the Czech republic because whatever happens in Czechia doesn’t really impact the world, or even Europe really.
Iran has been the target of spies, saboteurs, assassins, and other jolly professionals such as this for almost a century at this point because they had this crazy idea that their oil should belong to them rather than to British and American companies. That’s how their beloved monarch was installed. Of course he killed people, but he did so lovingly so he was different….
Now Iran has been bombed to shit twice in the past two years with the orange loud mouthed idiot bragging about distributing weapons to dissidents to trigger a civil war….
Maybe the orange ape should mind his own business and stay out of the middle east for once, but somehow I doubt that he takes no for an answer.
Luke-HW@reddit
Trump only cares about one thing anymore: his legacy. He started this war because he wanted to be the president to topple Iran, and he won’t leave because then he’d be the president that lost to Iran.
He’ll keep this war going until he dies or Iran yields, whichever comes first. This will go on for the rest of his term IMO, the recent gerrymandering campaigns have secured a pretty comfortable edge for the Republicans. It’d take a miracle for them to lose their majority, despite how disastrous Trump’s second term has been so far.
CoconutGoSkrrt@reddit
He does not care about legacy. He just cares about the stock market. When he says things, stocks go down, he buys, then he says “nevermind” and they go back up, and he sells. That’s it.
America is just being run by a mob right now. All this talk about regime change and whether the war is justified is completely useless. Because trump does not care about regime change. He just cares about money. There’s no point in debating about who is right and who is wrong.
protomenace@reddit
Yikes
ThevaramAcolytus@reddit
What an utter joke of a comparison. NS Germany wasn't being threatened with invasion by nuclear-armed regional powers and a superpower who were also running intelligence operatives on the street and directing them to help attack and try and overthrow the government while publicly bragging about it.
One, because nuclear arsenals didn't exist at the time. But two, they weren't being threatened in any consequential manner with any invasion at all until they themselves invaded a dozen countries and then were met with a response.
It's a comparison the logic for which is non-existent.
protomenace@reddit
Nobody is seriously threatening Iran with anything. It's a common lie to act like people who want to remove the regime from power care about doing anything to Iranian people.
ThevaramAcolytus@reddit
Sorry, we have public statements from the U.S. head of state directly to the country about annihilating entire civilizations at the top of the list.
From there on down. You're the one lying here and clearly aren't a very serious or honest person at all if you're genuinely making an attempt to actively deny public statements made in plain English by top U.S. officials we have open access to.
protomenace@reddit
Even in the US nobody takes what Trump says seriously. He's a nursing home patient.
Beatboxingg@reddit
yes the words of a head of state mean nothing now and the american century of humiliation oficially kicks off lololololol
protomenace@reddit
Trust me we are extremely humiliated by this "presidency"
protomenace@reddit
Regardless, they've been murdering dissenters since long before Trump made any such statement. Over 100,000 since the revolution.
Cultural_String87@reddit
Are you joking?
pasher5620@reddit
It is normal for a government to protect itself from agitators looking to violently overthrow it. Pretty sure there’s not a country in the world that doesn’t have execution as the punishment for doing that. Iran is an oppressive government, but executing traitors is about as normal and expected as it gets. The two countries attacking it and most other countries surrounding it have no moral high ground to be standing on to judge them tbh. Israel is actively committing a genocide, while the US is at the same time supplying the weapons they are using for said genocide and also is directly responsible for Iran having the government that it does.
NetworkLlama@reddit
There are dozens of countries that have gotten rid of executions for any reason, treason included.
Firecracker048@reddit
Many here think not only is it a good thing, but Iran is ONLY executing foreign agents. Despite lawyers within Iran publically stating they can't even view the evidence against their own clients.
But pointing out to people Iran executes hundreds yearly, sometimes thousands, gets everyone here in an uproar.
Like, imagine if England was executing hundreds, if not thousands a year and not letting lawyers see evidence against people.
Throwaway5432154322@reddit
That guy does think that it’s good. He is pretty openly pro-Islamic Republic / pro-regime.
Eexoduis@reddit
Do you genuinely believe that every person executed by the Iranian government is an Israeli spy?
Pyrric_Endeavour@reddit
Tankie detected.
Trust you to applaud a tyrannical regime executing it's people.
GerryAdamsSon@reddit
Waa waa
Pyrric_Endeavour@reddit
Cheer on the mullahs every time they hang an Iranian don't you.
Zipz@reddit
Sooo it seems you are justifying it
Can I see all this evidence for all these people being put to death
A tweet is not enough. Let alone a tweet that I’m sure you wouldn’t believe in any other situation. Are you going to tell me when Israel normally says something you believe them?
So why now?
Bhavacakra_12@reddit
Am I misremembering or did Trump also confirm the US was arming Iranian student protestors during the massive uprising early this year?
I don't know why he would reveal that so casually.
GerryAdamsSon@reddit
US armed some Kurds in Iran and they were supposed to distribute them amongst the monarchists but they just took the weapons and didn't join in 🤣
Then Trump got upset
Zeydon@reddit
They were certainly starting fires, and were well-armed
pineapplesgreen@reddit
I saw Iranian police burned alive
esjb11@reddit
We do also know that at the initial stage of the 12 day war Mossad agents blew up a bunch of antiair from within. No shit executions have increased.
Weird_Point_4262@reddit
It's win win. If they got the guns and used them in an uprising the US wins. If the Iranian regime imprisons or executes insurrectionists that's a propaganda victory of the US
Bhavacakra_12@reddit
Well the issue here is that there already was a propaganda win for the US after the Iranian's brutal response to the protests. So there is no reason why Trump would reveal the US involvement in arming the people. They already had the guns and the protest was already extinguished by the time Trump made his comments.
Perhaps I am reading too much into this but it really made me question what the logic was.
MaestroRozen@reddit
Executions in Iran have been surging for past few years, not months. Quite literally, every year since 2020 ended up with more corpses than the previous. The man this article is mentioning was arrested in 2022, so unless Mossad developed a time machine in secret he couldn't have been an agent involved in the current affairs. And how many of the people convicted today are actually guilty? Trials are happening behind closed doors, without proper legal representation or media coverage, with "evidence" to convict often coming down to confessions which are more likely than not beaten out of the accused.
Don't let the fact that Iran is being invaded distract from the fact that it's still an oppressive fundamentalist dictatorship that's always been happy to use death as means to control the masses. Mullahs are probably rubbing their hands with glee behind closed doors because they can use "but they were foreign agents, Israel and US said they have those!" as an excuse while murdering any dissidents, and the world will gobble it straight up.
GerryAdamsSon@reddit
It's naive to think Israel and the US have not been working on this for years though. Mossad cells don't just activate one day, they're being groomed for years
Kitchen_Letter8775@reddit
“Political execution” is a fabricated term to promote a pro-west narrative. These people received death penalty for killing police and security forces and attempting to seize critical government buildings.
Of course, one can argue about execution from a moral standpoint. But that’s a separate issue.
Eexoduis@reddit
It’s always so depressing to see the logic used by IDF defenders to justify mass prisons of teenagers used for Iran. So much atrocity is propped up by faceless bot accounts.
Firecracker048@reddit
Brother Iran isnt even letting lawyers view the evidence against them lol
https://www.hrw.org/reports/2004/iran0604/7.htm
https://clp.law.harvard.edu/knowledge-hub/magazine/issues/lawyers-between-democracy-and-authoritarianism/how-iranian-lawyers-engage-with-the-state/
This isn't a 'pro west' narrative. Iran just executes people when they feel like it, for offenses as low as not wearing a Hijab.
protomenace@reddit
You're literally just assuming the government is telling the truth.
TearOpenTheVault@reddit (OP)
You cannot know that’s what these men are being executed for because they are not given fair trials and proper legal defence.
Kitchen_Letter8775@reddit
How do you know if they aren’t given fair trials, considering that their country is literally at war right now?
_tobias15_@reddit
???
Traditional_Neat_506@reddit
trump and netanyahu have openly bragged about having intelligence penetration on the country, of course they would do everything to arm the people to revolt and of course iran isn't going to take this
Eexoduis@reddit
Most if not all of those to be executed are civilians who participated in protests. It’s appalling that you cast them all as Israeli spies to justify their rape, torture, and murder by the Iranian government.
GuaSukaStarfruit@reddit
IRGC bots are early
JucheSuperSoldier01@reddit
“Political executions” and if you look just past surface level you’ll see that Iran is executing people who murdered police with Israeli weapons on camera lmao
protomenace@reddit
Also peaceful student protestors, political dissidents, etc.
JucheSuperSoldier01@reddit
“Peaceful” sure bud.
protomenace@reddit
How much do they pay you?
https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/04/1167403
JucheSuperSoldier01@reddit
$7000 less than Israel pays you.
protomenace@reddit
So no response to the UN findings and warnings? Didn't think so.
JucheSuperSoldier01@reddit
Don’t you guys think the UN is Hamas?
Czart@reddit
We dismissing UN now? Wave goodbye to all those resolutions about I/P then.
Firecracker048@reddit
Really? Iran has presented evidence of that is why or simply stated it and you've eaten it up?
thistimepurple@reddit
I really want the Iranian people to be free from their tyrannical regime. I truly wish them the best of luck. I haven't been able to contact my Iranian friend since February, I hope he is ok but honestly who knows.
So many people in this sub who show they actually don't give a shit about human rights. They aren't mad at atrocities being committed, they only care about who is doing them.
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