The Douglas YB-43 (Versatile II) taking off powered by two GE J35 turbojets and having the pilot and co-pilot sitting under separates bubble canopies - 1946
Posted by Xeelee1123@reddit | WeirdWings | View on Reddit | 35 comments
lavardera@reddit
so two turbojets, but one thrust exhaust?
Radioactive_Tuber57@reddit
Sure looks like it, but the lighting is poor.
Darkspiff73@reddit
“The company was poised to roll out as many as 200 B-43s per month in two versions: a bomber equipped with a clear plastic nose for the bombardier, and an attack aircraft without the clear nose and bombing station but carrying 16 forward-firing .50 in (12.7 mm) machine guns and 36 5 in (127 mm) rockets.”
Q: How many 50’s you want in this baby? A: Yes.
meh_69420@reddit
Was Pappy Gunn in charge of procurement at the time?
The_Duc_Lord@reddit
Oh, Pappy Gunn. Fun anecdote time.
I grew up in Queensland, Australia near the air base where Pappy developed the strafer nose B-25's. We learnt to dive near the wrecks of the ships they used for practise runs. The ships look like they've been cut in half with Beelzebub's chain saw.
theemptyqueue@reddit
I would like to think that Pappy would've put 2 x 75mm cannons in the nose of this one.
zoinkability@reddit
All of them
righthandofdog@reddit
An A2 .50s does 740 rounds/minute. This thing would be putting 3x more bullets downrange than an A-10 and a .50 likely weighs almost as much as those depleted Uranium .30s
Plump_Apparatus@reddit
Eh?
The A2 fires 50 BMG, they're a half-inch around. The GAU-8 Avenger fires 30mm rounds, a little over 1 1/8" in diameter. Depleted Uranium is one of the heaviest stable elements in the universe.
So a single PGU-14/B 30mm DU round, which alloyed with titanium, weight around 14.0 oz/395g just for the projectile.
A 50 BMG M2 AP projectile weighs around 45 gram.
The two do not compare.
righthandofdog@reddit
Metric vs English (or whatever calibre is). Oops. Still a LOT of bullets headed downrange.
Plump_Apparatus@reddit
Eh, caliber is the diameter of the projectile in this case. And really, the two do not compare. The GAU-30 was designed to penetrate the top armor of tanks with one of the heaviest elements in the universe. A single GAU-30 also pushed almost 4,000 rounds per minute. It's like comparing a .22LR to a, eh, well, a 50 BMG.
righthandofdog@reddit
Sure but 16 x 750 rounds = 12,000 vs the 3,800 rounds a minute from the A-10. Still a wall of bullets in the air.
greenweenievictim@reddit
At least you could go hard at the taco bar preflight and not have to worry about stinking out anyone else.
Linkz98@reddit
CRM severe.
Reddit-Frank20@reddit
That is one ugly airplane!
Deufuss@reddit
Jar-jar?
HughJorgens@reddit
I read that the double canopies were removed because the intercoms sucked, so the crew would just duck down below the canopy and yell at each other to communicate.
trimetric@reddit
I'd like to think they can still hold hands on the inside.
Kotukunui@reddit
I guess they were separated so when they ejected, each one would go out either side of the vertical stabiliser.
FuturePastNow@reddit
I think they wanted to reduce drag by reducing frontal area of the cockpit. You can see the evolution from this to the fighter-style tandem seating of the B-47 and YB-52. Eventually Curtis LeMay put his foot down and demanded the B-52 be given a normal airliner style cockpit.
RoebuckThirtyFour@reddit
No Douglas was already doing this pre war/pre ejection seats and jet engines at least in mock ups
cloudubious@reddit
You can't trick me, Douglas! That's a mixmaster!
captainwacky91@reddit
I do believe this is at the USAF museum, undergoing restoration.
AverageAircraftFan@reddit
Jet powered Mixmaster?
Shadowrend01@reddit
Front on makes me think of Kermit the Frog
Darkspiff73@reddit
I can’t unsee this now lol.
Viharabiliben@reddit
Paint it Army Green.
Dabelgianguy@reddit
And with Piggy in Pin-Up nose art
RoebuckThirtyFour@reddit
Always wondered how the XB-31 Raidmaster would be like to fly since its mock up had the same cockpit layout/bubbles but was B-29 sized/competitor
earl_of_lemonparty@reddit
I know it sucked for crew resource management, but I will never not love dual cockpits.
Otaraka@reddit
They should have put people in the cockpit with them sitting at an angle to really mess with people’s heads.
NicholasWildeRails@reddit
Thought it was high
CrouchingToaster@reddit
Douglas being told to make the Mixmaster more conventional:
MaxRenn@reddit
You could make like you're going down an elevator to your copilot.
Xeelee1123@reddit (OP)
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_XB-43_Jetmaster
Source: https://www.jalopnik.com/xb-43-jetmaster-the-weird-history-of-americas-first-je-1689351498/
Source: https://historynet.com/bridging-the-gap-to-the-jet-era/
Source: https://x.com/AFmuseum/status/1965771042233971182