Is $730 USD after sales tax a decent price for a used RTX 4070 TI Super or would a used RTX 5070 for ~$500 also after sales tax be better value?
Posted by Ghostrider12YT@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 17 comments
Been debating whether or not I should be upgrading to a 5070 from a GTX 1080 over the last few days because of VRAM concerns down the line after going down a rabbit hole. If I wait I can definitely find a 5070 for around $500 after taxes on the used market, but I recently found a 4070 TI Super for $730 dollars used, but I am a bit conflicted now.
The extra VRAM sounds better for the long term, and I've seen through benchmarks the 4070 TI Super performs better than the 5070, around 15 FPS more usually, but I'm having trouble deciding whether or not it's worth a $200 difference in price.
My budget is I suppose up to \~$750 at the most that I would feel somewhat comfortable spending but I would prefer much less than that if I could which is why the 5070 seems so appealing apart from the 12gb VRAM. But at the same time, I feel that the general disapproval toward the 5070 is more out of "what could have been" from people since they wanted it to be 16gb of VRAM instead, so it's hard to tell if it could become a genuine problem or not in the future.
My monitor is also a 1080p monitor, which I understand some people may find overkill looking for these GPU's, but I think it'd be nice to have some room to upgrade to a 1440p monitor eventually and not have to worry too much about performance. And my CPU is a Ryzen 7 5700x3d which should be fine for both cards as far as I know.
The RX 9070 graphics cards are interesting too since they are usually found secondhand for \~$650 from what I can tell but I'm not sure why I'm a bit hesitant to jump on the AMD train from NVIDIA especially after finding out that their most sophisticated form of upscaling, FSR 4, is very slow in adoption these days and especially in older titles. Being able to use Ray Tracing and maybe a bit of path tracing would be nice too which I hear can vary in performance on AMD's side though.
If anyone has any advice on whether or not it would be worth it to bite the bullet and go for the 4070 TI Super or just wait it out and look for a lower priced 5070 or something else, I would really appreciate it.
No_Spare1827@reddit
its kinda hard to say, the 4070TI super is a really nice card that kind of middle found between the 5070 and 5070TI. I mean there is nothing the 5070 cant play today and while it can use the most up to dater features from Nvidia I would say Frame gen and potentially DLSS 5 aren't worth waiting for.
I'm not sure where u are in the world but the 9070 is a great choice true that AMD has some catching up to do but they have come a long way and have come shockingly close. I prefer Nvidia myself but my only bad experience with AMD was a defective card from the manufacturer other than that its been pretty easy to use and usually with no issues.
So I guess is paying the extra $200 for some extra VRAM and some extra performance worth it to u?
Fit_Substance7067@reddit
4070 ti super is MUCH closer to a 5070 ti..like a 4% difference iirc
I would go for the 4070 ti super with today's market....it's worth 130 more than a 5070 for sure IF you need/want the power
No_Spare1827@reddit
I have a 4080S and a 5070TI beats my GPU so IDK if Id say its within 5% but definitely if they want a better overall experience I agree spending the extra $230 is a good idea
Fit_Substance7067@reddit
Benchmarks have changed over the last few months...I guess the 5070 ti is about 17% more powerful? I don't know if they are testing more path Tracing games on TPU but I swear they had it within 5% at one point
No_Spare1827@reddit
yeah probably tested on newer games changing the average results some of these newer titles really like that extra VRAM and power budget
Fit_Substance7067@reddit
I haven't been up to date..I honestly stopped helping people build because of the prices... disgusting
deathdisco_89@reddit
I have the MSI Shadow 2x RTX 5070 and I love it. With Nvidia providing more support to the 50 series I think there is at least an equal case to be made regarding longevity. Its $560 brand new at Micro Center with a free game.
fnord55@reddit
I agree. I really love my 5070 (got the PNY model) it's the best GPU I've ever owned (been on the PC for decades). It's a great card.
Ghostrider12YT@reddit (OP)
Unfortunately Micro Center is in a whole different city from me
aragorn18@reddit
How far of a drive?
Ghostrider12YT@reddit (OP)
It's a 2 hour drive away so 4 hours there and back according to Google Maps
beef99@reddit
you are too concerned about VRAM and AMD FSR upscaling while being at 1080p. neither will matter at that resolution. if you for sure plan to go 1440p, then spend the extra money. i personally would recommend 1440p, a decent IPS panel can be had for a good price these days, and OLED too if you can afford to spend a bit more.
Ghostrider12YT@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I understand that I'm probably thinking too much on the VRAM side of things but the internet really likes to bring up how the VRAM wont suffice soon enough over and over so the sentiment has definitely influenced my thought process to it all
MurphyBinkings@reddit
That's specifically at higher resolutions is all
The_Machine80@reddit
More i read on this debate the more I see nvidia hardly had any improvement on the 5000 series cards.
translucent_pawn@reddit
I spent about that much for my 5070Ti so I wouldn’t recommend downgrading one generation and also getting it used for basically MSRP on a new 5 series card.
Urdnot_Flexx@reddit
I think the best move for you would be to buy either the RTX 5070 or the RX 9070 and use the remaining money to buy a 1440p monitor like the MSI 275QF. The 4070ti super is a great card and $730 is a decent price for it, but you’ll be bottlenecked by your monitor, so it’s a waste, tbh. The RX 9070 is a great choice, and FSR 3.1 has been adopted in a lot of modern games. For older games, it’s powerful enough to run those in native so you still get great performance and visuals.