China bypasses US GPU bans with 1.54-exaflops 'LineShine' supercomputer — CPU-only monster packs 2.4 million Huawei-designed Armv9 cores
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battler624@reddit
armv9?
How did huawei they get their hands on it?
Ghostsonplanets@reddit
Arm China
Extreme-Arm4609@reddit
Yep they basically don't cooperate with arm Britain.
Exist50@reddit
Why do you think this is in opposition to the main part of ARM? That rogue exec got outed ages ago.
Extreme-Arm4609@reddit
Sureeeeee
I'm shocked that arm China isn't just shut down in 2026 because well look it's basically just a arm of the Chinese military atp because obviously that's what the computer will be used for just like American super computers are.
So why SoftBank (Japan) and arm (UK) haven't revoked their licence to basically assist with making military computers in China idk.
Exist50@reddit
What do you mean? The courts said the US could not block the ISA licensing to China. Do you think ARM somehow doesn't operate in the country?
virtualmnemonic@reddit
Wouldn't China just disregard licensing if it was blocked?
battler624@reddit
I wasn't talking about China in general, but I was talking about Huawei specifically.
US Sanctioned Huawei and I know they sanctioned access to ARM material, but I guess it only applied to core access and didn't block access to architecture.
Minced-Juice@reddit
US tech restrictions intended for China are pretty leaky and far from foolproof. There could be n number of ways China got around them.
JackSpyder@reddit
Isn't this somewhat how TPUs are designed by Google? GPUs arent the only solution and the nvidia tax is extremely high even ignoring sanctions etc.
SourceScope@reddit
Seems like sanctions arent a think really
When shops in hong kong can legally import nvidia cards
And legally sell them to china
Edenz_@reddit
I think this Chinese system is more similar to Fugaku than Googles TPUs, where there are a huge amount of CPUs with quite large Vector/Matrix extensions. Googles TPUs (unless they've dramatically overhauled them) are more specialised and fundamentally built to do fixed-function matrix workloads. The tradeoff being that this Chinese system will probably have quite good FP64 performance (theoretically) but in exchange for a lot higher power and lower throughput for the amount of hardware.
IamGeoMan@reddit
These well timed FUD pieces line up so conveniently with upcoming earnings reports. Calls.
Exist50@reddit
How is a supercomputer announcement "FUD"? Are you just trolling?
nanonan@reddit
What about this is FUD exactly?
yjgfikl@reddit
WSB user spotted
VastTension6022@reddit
Is there any rough perf estimate or comparison we can get from flops and cores here?
imaginary_num6er@reddit
Can always trust Tom's
Steap-Edit@reddit (OP)
And China, too
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