E-Bike Selection
Posted by Top_Tennis_8418@reddit | ebikes | View on Reddit | 11 comments
Hello!
I've been biking on and off for a long time; although I don't bike as often as I used to. My first "real" bike was a 1977 Motobecane Grand Touring that I bought in the early 1990s for 20 bucks, and I still ride it (with a few updates: 8x2 gearing, a newer Brooks saddle, and brifters). I ride mostly short rides for fun; I don't think I could do a 20 mile day without a few breaks anymore (I'm 52 and not in the shape I was as a teenager).
In the next month or so, I'll be moving and switching careers. The new job is about 2 miles from the house, and there will be lots of opportunity to reduce car use and bicycle. I'd like to buy an e-bike to have reliable powered transportation for commuting, plus small side trips to stop at a grocery store or hardware store; probably a maximum round trip of 10 miles.
Sure, I could do this on the Motobecane, but I'm getting older and I tend to get sore and tired and I don't want to rely on my leg power for every trip of every day. If I'm really in sad shape, I have a car, but I really, really don't want to fight traffic for 2 miles every day when I can ride. Maybe I'll get in better shape and use the Motobecane again, but I'm looking for bike advice, not miracles.
I don't really have a budget in mind; I could probably get ridiculous and spend a lot but I don't need to. Also, if I can stay closer to $1000, I could get an e-bike for my wife; who is part 2 of this question. She will also be commuting 2-3 miles (assuming she gets a job in the metro area and not something needing a car; she hates driving so I think it's a safe guess).
I'm 6'2" and she's 4'10", so sharing is a bike is unlikely (unbikely?). She's 38, so more energetic; but she's also less interested in using a bike for sport so she rarely rides right now (I think her desire to avoid a car would make her choose the e-bike, but for fitness she jogs instead). I could see us riding together to a restaurant or light shopping, but not for fun.
In both cases, I could see a basket carrying 20 pounds of groceries as an infrequent load; we'd use the car to carry more. I've got a backpack to carry my laptop and papers; there's a locker at work for clothing so I'd carry a small load of laundry there or back once a week or so. I imagine her loadout would be similar.
I'm leaning toward class 2; most of the local streets are 25mph speed limit and usually stop-and-go so I don't see traveling even at 20mph, even if I can find an open stretch. And the difference between 20 and 28 mph is a couple minutes tops on a short run with even minimal traffic interruption.
I've read a dozen different guides and gotten 2 dozen "professional" opinions. One local bike shop doesn't carry e-bikes, but suggests Aventon (which are at the upper end of the budget). The other bike shop suggests a Cannondale that I can afford, but don't want to; and a Trek that I can't afford (and still don't want to). My aunt loves her older Schwinn. My dad (77 and bicycles more daily than I do in a month...!) says to just suck it up and pedal, preferably on a bike built this century.
What do real people say for myself, and for my wife?
Additional_Delay_793@reddit
I'm a long time bike rider I converted a few hybrid bikes to Mid Drive electric. Can't beat the light weight and range. I take the batteries off and can easily transport these bikes on a standard bike rack.
I feel like most E-Bikes are too bulky. Since I did the E-Bike builds myself I can also service the bikes myself. I understand that is not an option for most.
Top_Tennis_8418@reddit (OP)
I considered converting the Motobecane (I already switched from downtube shifters to brifters and modified the frame to carry a modern drivetrain, so I'm not hung up on originality).
My thoughts were that, I don't want to ruin a bike I enjoy (since it would be my first conversion so I'll certainly do things I don't mean to); I don't have another bike to convert; and I've got my hands full with moving and a career change. Sourcing a bike to convert and buying the components puts me right into the price range of a cheap e-bike again.
So, while I'll probably convert a bike eventually if I enjoy the e-bike experience (whether it's the Motobecane or something else), this isn't the right time to jump into it.
CommercialSignal7301@reddit
If you’re thinking about converting, I recommend the Johnny Nerdout website and YouTube channel.
PitifulDisaster3688@reddit
I always like to recommend the Ride1Up Roadster V3. I think it’s great value for the money. I have a friend who has the Lectric XP4, but I personally am not a fan of folders because they are sized one size fits most. The roadster comes in multiple sizes, so a better fit is possible. Additionally, for $50 more you can get front suspension and $250 more you can get a range extender. So it’s a great value proposition.
Top_Tennis_8418@reddit (OP)
I'm leaning away from a folder because of the weight penalty and no need to fold. I've ridden a few (non-electric) folders over the years and some were better than others. I'm not rejecting a folder just because it's a folder; but I also hadn't come across the Roadster V3 yet (I'm looking at the specs now)
Hefty_Lemon_7928@reddit
I have been e-bike commuting for over two years now. Found a good deal on a Gazelle Ultimate T10 at upway.com. My commute is about 5 miles and I love it. I just hit 2000 miles, had to replace the cassette, chain ring, and chain at 1000 miles but that’s probably because I didn’t have anyone look over it when I bought it and just slammed it on the road. I stay Class 1 so I can bike at most state parks. Average speed on my commute is 14 mph with a lot of intersection crossings. My commute via car is about 4 minutes slower than my bike even at that average speed.
Top_Tennis_8418@reddit (OP)
I expect my bike commute will be faster than driving a car most days also. The Gazelle is out of my price range, but it looks like a nice bike. I won't have the Class 1 limitation where I'm riding.
CommercialSignal7301@reddit
They’re a buy once/cry once proposition. Don’t cheap out on a bike, if you have the option of getting one from a shop that will provide service. REI, if you have one in your area, has had some sales that are pretty good on select models and they provide service.
Top_Tennis_8418@reddit (OP)
I'm moving about 600 miles; so I'll have to find the local bike shops. I agree that buying local is the best option for service and being able to physically check it out first; this thread is helping me figure out what I'm going to be looking for.
Kaleid_Liner@reddit
Got a lectric xp4 750 2 weeks ago. I use it to commute to work thats a few miles away. Perfect for that and for future bike rides with the family.
Nervous-Iron2373@reddit
Lectric XP4 or Ride1up Portola