Old man yells at cloud
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Posted by Meteorstar101@reddit | greentext | View on Reddit | 241 comments
PotatoAmulet@reddit
Older Zoomer, I tried to play Morrowind and the first 2 Fallouts but they didn't click. Then I found the Fallout manuals, got them printed and bound and played through the entirety of Fallout 1 and part of 2. I'm willing to bet that most of these games have manuals that are essential that people don't know they need. For most games since at least the PS3 generation the manual was vestigial because of in game tutorials.
igerardcom@reddit
I weep for the younglings that will never know the joy of manuals being used as a copy protection mechanism....
Opaldes@reddit
Alot of these games didn't age well, besides Underworld which I didn't play yet I could only recommend Deus Ex and Planescape.
LyadhkhorStrategist@reddit
Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines is peak, till date the best urban RPG
igerardcom@reddit
I've played nearly all these games, and Arcanum, Bloodlines, BG1, and Planescape are some of the most impressive experiences I've ever had when it comes to fiction in general.
LyadhkhorStrategist@reddit
I am currently playing through Baldurs Gate 1 and am not having a good time, can agree on the other 3
ElectroMagnetsYo@reddit
Planescape is still beautiful, goes to show stylized graphics never go out of date.
igerardcom@reddit
The art style, the setting, and the storyline, are all S-tier.
Big-Sector6653@reddit
OpenMW and some visuals tweaks makes Morrowind pretty palatable I think
leekhead@reddit
BG2 my beloved
igerardcom@reddit
I prefer BG1, but BG2 is good too.
RonAndStumpy@reddit
Greatest game ever made. I could collect and organiser my arrows for hours
CyberBed@reddit
I am a zoomer and had played all of those games except ultima. Probably because I'm a slav and games like HoMM are important part of our culture.
Also I never hear about Ultima, iscit any good?
seeyagatorr@reddit
Why do Slavs have such based taste in games? I've never met one who hasn't played at least a thousand hours of Heroes 3.
I'mba millennial and I'm in the same boat. All but the two Ultima games, but I've played others in the series.
All the people acting holier than thou for not having played them or pretending like modern games are nearly as good are sadly lacking education in the arts and culture.
MrTomtom360@reddit
Your comment made me cuckle. I imagined you looking into your bookshelf and finding HoMM standing there between crime and punishment and Solaris.
rubberjohny@reddit
with a bare burned dvd of gothic 2 scratching itself in between
igerardcom@reddit
The Slavic canon.
tehsmish@reddit
Ultima is to pc rpg’s what nes Mario is to platformers. Dated, foundational and still very good
urbanknight4@reddit
I'm about to try Ultima. Both of the titles in the OP are the best in the series but still need a good bit to get working on modern PCs. Ultima 7 is an open world simulation RPG in isometric view, and Underworld is a first person open world dungeon crawler.
They're classics for a reason, I'd probably give them a shot if you've already played other games from that era and enjoyed them!
QuitWhinging@reddit
IIRC Ultima 7 has a mod that makes it dirt easy to play on modern systems in high res. It's called Exult I believe.
urbanknight4@reddit
Yep, that's true! I completely forgot about Exult but it has some amazing features, definitely worth a try even if it's someone's first time with Ultima
ILoveBigCoffeeCups@reddit
As a millennial I never played one of these either.
tharmsthegreat@reddit
Zoomer who played Bloodlines here, buy it on gog and pound away brother it's really good
HoMM3 is another little easy to pick up gem
igerardcom@reddit
Bloodlines is SOOO good.
Tuarangi@reddit
Same, Deus Ex is the only one I have played though I did play that a lot. I heard FO 1&2 are a pain to get working on modern PC
nZechos@reddit
FO 1 and 2 worked without issues for me on my Windows 10 and 11 PCs but the real hard part is the gameplay of these games. It's painfully slow and lacks so many QoL features. I'd love to experience the stories of these games myself but the 2-3 hours I put in were a pain to get through
SwampWitchEsq@reddit
Fallout Fixd is outdated a bit, but helps. "Fallout et tu" lets you play FO in the FO2 engine and improves a ton.
It's still clunky, but they both (particularly FO2) have great stories.
MrMangobrick@reddit
I loved Fallouts 1 and 2, fantastic games.
Due_Entrepreneur_960@reddit
FO 1&2 are on Steam, aren't they? I can't imagine those versions are difficult to set up.
Tuarangi@reddit
The classic fallout sub says it's fairly common to have black screens and display issues so I don't know. There is meant to be a community patch for 1 at least to fix some problems at least, I may try it eventually
slasher1337@reddit
Weird. I had no problem with fallout 1 and 2 but no matter what i do 3 won't start.
Tuarangi@reddit
I don't have it installed at the moment as it was on my old PC and I didn't download it again but the mods I used looking at Nexus Mods (applied to the GOG version)
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/19122
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/944
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/24913
Possibly some others but those seem to be the main ones
DivideSensitive@reddit
Get the GOG version if you ever want to play them, they did a good work to package them such that it's a simple install & play experience now.
Wiggie49@reddit
Ditto, I had a pirated version of Sims, Starcraft, and free flash games online lol
Wrong_Butterscotch91@reddit
I have played all of them besides the ultima games, and i did care for any of them.
RedexSvK@reddit
I'm gen Z and I have played 3
But that's because I'm from post-communist country so our timeline got to these in 2010
I_Am_JesusChrist_AMA@reddit
You excited for Halo 2?
RedexSvK@reddit
I'm afraid my rig can't run it
never-obsolete@reddit
I'm almost 40 and I've only played FO1 from this list.
Knightrius@reddit
Grim
CidAndroid@reddit
God forbid you stared at some other meaningless pixels for hours instead of the pixels represented by the gaeyms in this post.
DarkSkyKnight@reddit
Played half of these but they’re not that enjoyable these days. I actually prefer JRPGs from that era like FF7. Most of the list is CRPG/early ARPGs.
Tootoriole-@reddit
Iv played pong buddy and got bored of games they are all the same
rycerzDog@reddit
>the modern greek has played approximately 0 games of petteia
absolutely grim
Aerhyce@reddit
>Youth these days are playing petteia instead of debating philosophy
absolutely grim
Sir_Daxus@reddit
> Youth these days are debating philosophy instead of hunting mammoths
absolutely grim
igerardcom@reddit
It's so Joever.
Sir_Daxus@reddit
"Nooooooo how dare time advance! Everyone should like the same things I like forever!" jfc anon is pathetic.
SPZ_Ireland@reddit
The average millennial has played 0 of those games either tbf.
Tripleberst@reddit
I'm a millennial and I've never played any of them. I spent all my early gaming time on battlefield, GoldenEye, WoW, Counter strike, and team fortress. These just aren't my type of games.
gjb94@reddit
Yeah no millennials played these at the time. I've since gone back to old Fallouts and Elder Scrolls because I like the worldbuilding but you would have had to be a really specific type of nerd to enjoy them as a kid
igerardcom@reddit
I'm a millennial and I played nearly all of these games when I was a youngling.
RadaRAW@reddit
Deus ex and fallout 2 are two if the best gaming experiences I ever had and I am a Gen Z
igerardcom@reddit
Uh, hi, Based Dept.? Yeah, this is the guy I was telling you about....
amuon@reddit
Tf or tf2
Tripleberst@reddit
both
SamMarduk@reddit
Bro yeah like Morrowind and then the rest on pass here or there. We were more on Jak and Daxter around that time lol
Recipe-Jaded@reddit
I have played every one of those
ProjectSnowman@reddit
Millennial console peasants never have. Millennial PC chads have though.
Due_Entrepreneur_960@reddit
I imagine most people at that time were playing on console instead and either didn't have a PC or only used it for work (or rather, their parents used it for work)
LaughR01331@reddit
I’ve played both baulders gates and morrowind
Pepperonidogfart@reddit
Deus ex was cool. Top down fallout doesnt look interesting at all. 3 and 4 are just a more complete experience.
UpboatOrNoBoat@reddit
Me tbh. Warcraft, StarCraft, Diablo, age of empires, c&c, civ were my jam back then. Almost no RPG.
mrbobcyndaquil@reddit
Millennial here, played both Morrowind and the two listed Fallouts.
hornwalker@reddit
Millenial, I’ve only played Morrowind.
GoodGuyScott@reddit
I must be average then lol
tigerbait92@reddit
I dunno, I think it's nice to go back to older things to appreciate them. Anon's rhetoric sucks, but the argument itself is sound.
Like books? There's a wealth of stories from throughout history to read, from modern pop-fiction to post-war American classics, to Shakespeare's timeless tales, to the first story ever written in Gilgamesh.
Like movies? They weren't always shot on digital. Some of the best movies ever made are half a century old or more. Can go back to the 80s for some American pop-culture staples, the 60s and 70s for the rise of American auteurs like Scorsese and Coppola, can see some all-time classics like Casablanca and The Wizard of Oz in the 30s and 40s.
Why can't games be any different? There are stories to be told, experiences to be loved, fun to be had in older games. And I'm not even really a retro gamer; I mainly play current games. But I can think of all the games I've ever played, and my top 10 has games from 4 different decades, from Sonic 3 & Knuckles, to Wind Waker, to Journey, to Baldur's Gate 3.
Folks just gotta be willing to leave shiny graphics behind in favor of a good experience. Chrono Trigger holds up so damn well and makes most modern JRPGs look amateurish despite it being made during gaming's infancy.
Judasz10@reddit
You need to play some of these games to understand. Anon isn't upset people like different things. He is upset the newer generations don't know how good games could have been if the industry didn't turn to making profit over everything else.
Morrowind is better in so many ways than oblivion and skyrim both. Has more freedom, better world building, better storyline, better immersion. I could go on but you get the idea. As time advanced the industry changed their priorities from making good product to getting more profit. It sucks to not even know how great those old games were, how much passion was put into them. And your response only proves that, because you think anon is upset you don't like what he liked while he is just sorry you didn't get to experience these things.
purdue_fan@reddit
im 36 and I have never played any of these games.
beefycheesyglory@reddit
I'm 29 and some of them are absolutely worth trying. Morrowind, BG2, VtM and Heroes 3 especially. I think if anybody should play only one game on this list it's VtM, hands down, that game is an experience unlike any other. Just download the unofficial fan patch if you do otherwise it will be rough.
SmaugRancor@reddit
VtM soundtrack is still fucking peak.
LazarusPizza@reddit
As someone who has played all of them. These are legitimately some amazing games with writing we don't see often these days.
SmaugRancor@reddit
All those games listed in the post are better than most of the modern garbage companies produce now, and I'm a zoomer.
LazarusPizza@reddit
It's funny that this is the top comment when it completely misread the post.
Anon isn't complaining about people not liking some of the best games out there.
He's complaining that the new generation never got to experience these, and are instead inundated with so much garbage.
I'm not saying there aren't great games coming out today, because there definitely are, but the flood of garbage is monstrous, and most kids are growing up under the hegemony of Fortnite, and Roblox. We may have had shitty graphics, but at least we had the ability to see more.
100moonlight100@reddit
also millennial, played everything except any of the Ultimas, might have to pay a visit to GOG to be honest.
Mitchel-256@reddit
"Why care about some of the best products this hobby and its history have to offer? You're just self-centered. Play ball and gun like a normal person, here's your complimentary drool bucket."
Talk about pathetic.
iAyushRaj@reddit
take off your rose tinted glasses and play some games instead of watching YouTube playthroughs
Mitchel-256@reddit
What rose-tinted glasses? What am I praising that doesn't deserve it? And, for the record, I just recently completed Fallout 1 and 2 for the first time, and have been playing Morrowind and Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines as I desire.
These games absolutely deserve the praise that OOP is giving them. They're classics.
Do Fallout 1 and 2 show their age? Fuck, yeah. But do they deliver incredible quality despite the old, janky gameplay? Without question.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
iAyushRaj@reddit
I am also not denying those old games are good but denying the fact that there are countless other games that are objectively better.
I am not gonna sit through and just overlook the jank. I play shit ton of Retro games myself but some of them are way too janky for my enjoyment.
And maybe learn to be more polite to have a valid discussion with people, because your point is valid.
Mitchel-256@reddit
I responded in kind to the guy I originally replied to being a douchebag. You approached with the rose-tinted glasses comment and accusing me of only experiencing these games through YouTube playthroughs.
Tell me, O Enlightened One, where anyone else was polite enough to merit responding kindly?
And then please accept my simultaneous apology and raised middle finger when I tell you I'm on the fence about whether to tell you to fuck off or ask you what games you think I should be playing. 'Cause I can just show you my Steam Library, either way.
iAyushRaj@reddit
My comment was about how most people who praise old games and dog on newer ones are mostly who have never played any good new games and just skim through playthroughs and reviews to make their opinions on them.
Wouldn't have surprised me if you were in the same camp after your original comment
My apologies
Mitchel-256@reddit
Bare minimum, so long as your recommendation wasn't Apex Legends or Genshin Impact or some other such dogshit, apology accepted.
ufailowell@reddit
Get over yourself lol
Pepperonidogfart@reddit
I think you dont understand why. Yes, time moves on and new things arise. We're in an era however that is so dominantly controlled by corporations that it's changing the paradigm of what "quality" is for a new generation. If you grow up now consuming nothing but modern mainstream entertainment you are ingesting mostly predatory, corporate diarrhea. These companies have teams psychologists and of lawyers who's job it is to develop ways to extract the most profit and the least cost from a child. A developing mind with no baseline for quality is easily moldable. They want to imprint the expectation of their predatory tactics as soon as possible and will do so up to the edge of the law.
This is a deliberate dumbing down of the consumer so they accept less, pay more and shut the fuck up.
spuol@reddit
Jfc?
Sir_Daxus@reddit
Abbreviation for jesus fucking christ
spuol@reddit
Thanks
hornwalker@reddit
When the art of your generation isn’t good enough to be preserved in a museum for centuries
CidAndroid@reddit
Typical Gaeymer behaviour. Those who play videogaeymes are too terminally online to realize that staring at whatever pixels for hours on end while pushing some buttons is not worth discussing or getting worked up about to begin with.
Akri853@reddit
nothing wrong with having a hobby 👍
Aerhyce@reddit
Also I'm sure anon doesn't like the things that their parents loved as kids
Sir_Daxus@reddit
No no, I'm sure anon watched all of charlie chaplin's movies too, because they're classics and they must be loved.
Legal_Loli_Uni@reddit
I've only played Fallout and I have Fallout 2 but never played it yet because I still haven't finished the first one.
Other than that, while I'd like to play these game to see what they were about, these games are old. There's a new standard with the new generation, and ragging in the new generation for not abiding by the old standards is cringe.
Zeema101@reddit
DACopperhead3@reddit
I've played most of them except the Ultima games. The biggest issue with many of them from the zoomer perspective is that they have aged. Some of them almost demand knowledge from previous playthroughs or ask you already have the game memorized. I'm a big fan of RPGs, but a lot of 90s- early Aughts CRPGs have aged like chocolate milk. Amazing at the time, kind of distressing now. The writing and stories are often still strong, Arcanum's world building alone is glorious. But they are buried under esoteric mechanics and systems that sometimes just don't function properly. I never feel like I'm role playing, I feel like I'm just playing the wrong spread sheet.
Except for Deus Ex, that game rules and will always rule.
Acogatog@reddit
I’ve been meaning to get around to Planescape: Torment for a while now. Thanks for the reminder.
KaiserS0ul@reddit
I mean... I'm a millennial and I've tried to play four of these but they were so archaic and/or needlessly difficult that it resulted in me getting very bored by it all.
Brave33@reddit
These games are "Wake up honey, my favorite eastern european youtuber posted a new videogame essay video, it's 4 hours long."
Btw check Warlockracy on youtube.
Phenns@reddit
I'm a millennial and played all those, but I'm kind of a fucking freak tbqh. None of my friends have played these old ass games, and I don't blame them.
Julle1990@reddit
Interesting choices, didn't Morrowind come like 2004 and the rest are from 2000s something.
I've dangled in all of them except Ultima and Arcanum I think, born in the best year of 1996
Blamore@reddit
zoomer? that shit is earlier than millennials lol
aenigma224@reddit
Vampire the masquerade bloodlines is a must play for any fan of immerse RPGs. Can't talk about the rest, cause I never played them.
StrengthfromDeath@reddit
REEE everyone has to like muh classic are pee gees.
Ive played only morrowind and only a bit at a friend's house from time to time.
I didnt have the choice to play these until I was old enough to buy my own hardware and games, but I knew of a lo of these games and made an active choice to not play them.
RyanHeiSt@reddit
Born in 02 and have played half, but I like playing older games
Rockman2isgud@reddit
Never even heard of more than half of these things
Anomalus_satylite@reddit
Played three. Never beat Fallout 2. Still great though.
I've been meaning to try Boulders Gate.
Laxhoop2525@reddit
People acting like this isn’t the gaming equivalent of no one reading Shakespeare anymore.
Hanna_Bjorn@reddit
I'm from 1990s and I can say that half of these are ass and the other half objectively loses to modern titles.
Anon can't accept change
WoinkySpoingle@reddit
Fallout 1 & 2 and Morrowind alone make this comment objectively wrong.
heqra@reddit
well not the loses to modern titles part thats for sure
bhbhbhhh@reddit
Honestly it’s crazy that I haven’t found any “Baldur’s Gate 3 superfan tries the original” videos on YT.
slasher1337@reddit
What category does vampire: the masquerade - bloodlines fall into?
moragdong@reddit
To unplayable junk
NightWis@reddit
I think he just said it nothing on the list is actually falling to ass side. Some mechanics might have aged poorly but modern titles are usually poorer than these ones.
PrrrromotionGiven1@reddit
Which category is Deus Ex meant to fall into? Because that game slaps and none of the later titles are as good as it is.
Hanna_Bjorn@reddit
Have to admit I haven't played Deus Ex and Ultima from this list, but point stands for others
PrrrromotionGiven1@reddit
You should try it, it holds up really well.
Take it from me, you can make basically any build work, but you will have an easier time if you put at least one level in basically all categories. Also take the GEP Gun at the start, it's the only one out of the three options you can't easily get somewhere else near the start of the game.
NightWis@reddit
I’ve played some of these recently and they are not ass. Some are hard to play because of clunkiness but they have better stories than modern titles.
WilliShaker@reddit
I have 3 lol
fluxrider@reddit
I can't play Arcanum because of the repeating sound effect of the buffs. I can't play torment because it crashed all the time thanks to poor graphics API of the time, I can't play bloodlines because 3d GFX don:t age well. Fallout 2 also crashes and bugs. All I'm saying is you had to be there to celebrate it. These games are not recommendable at all because they are plagues with technical problems.
eternalsnacklord@reddit
I’m gen z and have just gotten into divine divinity. I think it’s pretty fun
NightWis@reddit
I’ve finished it this year and it did deliver. It was really good.
eternalsnacklord@reddit
I’m glad to hear that. I like the game but I still have a hard time with how much fog of war there is, I can barely see a thing
NightWis@reddit
I got some skills for that to be honest. Otherwise it was very limiting.
ICreepvideos@reddit
I actually played VTMB because I simp heavy for Jeanette
residenthomophobe@reddit
Original cyber punk
Saggy-egg@reddit
You can't convince me that there is more than maybe 2 games here that aren't shit in almost everyway but have a surprising amount of people calling it the goat like skyrim or something
MrTomtom360@reddit
Can you explain what you hate about these games? I have only recently played some of these games like Baldurs Gate 1+2 and other old games that are not on the list like Final Fantasy 6+7, chrono trigger and resident evil 1. I found all of them superior to their remakes and modern counterparts
Saggy-egg@reddit
My comment is in bad faith tbh since my opinion only really extends to elder scrolls, the fallouts that were made after the og ones and quite a few more niche games that still recieved positive attention which aren't listed here
Basically a lot of the time theres a huge consensus of "the main gameplay loop is stale and buggy where you'd be better off with modageddon, the UI is completely unintuitive and crap, the characters are sometimes not bland and the worldbuilding is mildly interesting at best 10/10 literally one of the best games of all time"
MrTomtom360@reddit
Yes that's true. I don't enjoy the Bethesda style of games either. These early games are the clunky predecessors to the empty open world games that we see at the moment.
Brucedx3@reddit
I'm a millennial and I've never played any of these games.
Wiinterfang@reddit
Honestly I'm a millennial and I haven't played neither. Just seen like a bunch of old PC games.
vladdeh_boiii@reddit
Sounds like someone needs to admit they're just old.
Ayyzeee@reddit
Some of those games are not optimised well on newer hardware, I tried getting into OG Deus Ex, it was rough, having to patch everything just to make it playable is just beyond pain in the ass. Though I did play Fallout 1 and 2, it was good, the 2nd one won me over.
nik_cool22@reddit
The OG fallout games are really good when you get into it. There is a lot of charm in all the reading you have to do in dialogues. It greatly helps with immersifying you in the games.
Ayyzeee@reddit
Yeah it was great that you aren't being hand hold when playing it but at the same time, it can be really annoying, I remember stuck on FO2 after you arrived at Vault City and I didn't have good INT so I failed the test for the citizenship and I checked everywhere for answers did not found one eventually I had to resort into using guides because I feel like an idiot not figuring out it and I think I had to restart my character get more INT to progress I still to this day have no idea how you get it.
I think the best comparison to OG Fallout are STALKER trilogy, no hand holding either and you are given vague hints on what you have to do, I do wish games do something like this rather than giving quest markets that you have stick your eyes throughout it.
Musashi1596@reddit
STALKER does give quest markers though
poizard@reddit
if you had more INT you probably would've figured it out
VengineerGER@reddit
I would kill for a modern turn based Fallout to be honest.
mostie2016@reddit
Same with VTM Bloodlines it has such a cool setting and world but you have to patch the damn thing to hell and back.
Ayyzeee@reddit
I want to play that game but then out of nowhere Activision decides to increase the price, it pisses me off.
Commaser@reddit
I remember i tried the og deus ex once and because I only have one monitor I like to play games on windowed mode so that I can alt tab easily between things. Except for some reason whenever I put deus ex on window mode everything became super fast like i activated a turbo mode for it or something. I have no idea why tf that happened and it was the first time i experienced something like that in a game simply by putting it in windowed mode.
crocodilepickle@reddit
Really? Maybe it has changed but all i did last year when i played it is install the transcended mod and thats really it
NightWis@reddit
There is just gmdx mod and thats enough on its own.
Tuarangi@reddit
FO3 is a pain, I got it on GOG with a "guaranteed to work out of the box" refund promise, downloaded it and it wouldn't even load. Took about 3 different patch mods to get it working and was about 2 minutes away from asking for a refund
Ayyzeee@reddit
FO3 always broken even on Steam, thanks to GFWL it ruins a lot of games and FO3 is no exception.
awolkriblo@reddit
Zoomer here, are any of these worth playing? Trying to break my multiplayer gaming habit. Just played through the Master Chief Collection and DOOM '16. Next on my list is probably playing Portal/re-playing Portal 2, then Half Life 1/2. Maybe the OG DOOM trilogy?
Hearasongofuranus@reddit
We were living in peak gaming era without even knowing it.
Factorio, BG3 and RDR2 are still amazing tho.
echit2112@reddit
i refuse to buy factorio out of spite but what i did get from the pirated version that I played in school it was pretty awesome.
Hearasongofuranus@reddit
What spite?
echit2112@reddit
Had it on steam wishlist for over a year waiting for a sale notification. Anyone who knows Factorio knows where that's going.
When I then found out they don't have sales at all and the reasons behind it I went "well fuck them!" And it's just gonna sit on the wishlist forever.
SoupaMayo@reddit
And what's the reason behind it ?
echit2112@reddit
They "believe it's disrespectful to early supporters who bought the game full-price" which doesn't make a lick of sense to me. I've got a lot of games that are like 5 bucks base price now that I paid a shitton more for back when I first bought it. Is that disrespectful? No, cause I've had it a lot longer and have fundamentally just gotten more time out of it than anyone that buys after me.
This is especially true in a game like Factorio that hooks you in, tickles the autism in your brain and provides literal thousands of hours of stuff to do. It'd be hard to say that even someone that pirated it and spent nothing on it would get more bang for their buck than someone who got the alpha in 2013 and has stuck to it.
They also say that it prevents "FOMO" from sales and this would make sense if they didn't sell on Steam, which has scheduled, structured, predictable and preparable sale dates. (Summer Sale on June 25th by the way; we learned that 8 months ago).
SoupaMayo@reddit
Hmm yeah pretty dumb argument from them, they just want the money and that's all
Hearasongofuranus@reddit
I get that. At the same time, it's like 30 usd for thousands of hours of fun.
Compared to spending 30 usd for like... I don't know, a dinner or movies or a bj this is a no-brainier.
echit2112@reddit
It is. Well, 50 AUD for me. But yeah. That's just what spite is mang.
DeDuniel@reddit
Why buy worse Games for 95% Off? Just get this one, youre missing out on a great game with Tons of content
echit2112@reddit
oh i'll get it alright
Hanza-Malz@reddit
I wonder how many modern games OP played that aren't generic gacha anime slop.
matt_Nooble12_XBL@reddit
Morrowind’s gameplay sucks compared to oblivion and Skyrim. In terms of 2003 games, KOTOR was better. Classic fallout however is peak.
loaflord555@reddit
Born in 05' played all the classic fallouts, deus ex, Morrowind , vampire the masquerade. The only one of theses I didn't particularly have alot of fun with was Morrowind and I couldn't really get into ultima past an hour but I appreciate it. also played tons of old school rpg games not listed here. Not every young person likes old games and not everyone hates them either. My 8 year old brother is playing fallout 3 rn which is much older then him.
kylowick117@reddit
is morrowind worth playing in 2026?
WoinkySpoingle@reddit
Yes
manny011604@reddit
Yes you can mod it to perfection you you’ll have the joy of being a flying magic god
SaintJimmy1@reddit
I first played it in 2021 and I’ve done a couple more runs since then. I think it’s definitely worth it. Just takes some patience starting out to get used to the mechanics.
kylowick117@reddit
I've always been interested in chdcking it out, would you recommend using any mods or just vanila ?
SaintJimmy1@reddit
I don’t use any mods. OpenMW is very popular though, kinda just modernizes the game a little bit. What I would recommend though is watching some videos or reading some guides on character/class selection. Idk if you’ve played other Elder Scrolls games or not, but compared to Skyrim for example, your race and class have a much bigger impact on how your character plays. Knowing how leveling works is very important.
kylowick117@reddit
Yeah my only knowlage is Skyrim witch I realise is not exactly known for its depth or difficulty
SaintJimmy1@reddit
If you enjoyed the world building and lore aspect of Skyrim then you’ll love Morrowind. So much to dive into there.
Just do some research on starting out the game and I think you’ll have a blast. I think the UESP (elder scrolls wiki) has a starters guide. I’d say the most important parts are understanding how to level and understanding the dice roll mechanics. Once you’re comfortable with those the game is very rewarding.
kylowick117@reddit
Much appreciated !
TheGoodSatan666@reddit
I am a zoomer (hate that word btw) and i literally played all of these except for Ultima, the one completely on the bottom right and Arganum. These are literally all very well known classics and it's not like Gen Z gamers don't play older games
Though as a zoomer i can say that many aspects of some of these games aged like milk and some people are probably having the nostalgia glasses on.
RetroTheGameBro@reddit
I'm kinda ok with this because the second something quality gets popular, people start glazing tf out of it and the contrarians come in and ruin its reputation forever.
cough New Vegas cough
BardicInnovation@reddit
What does it mean if I played all of them?
tatas323@reddit
Born in 96 played, Morrowind, HoMM 3, Planescape, and Vampire the Masquerade
phyn@reddit
Aarcanum was fun. Interesting world mainly. Game itself wasn't anything ground breaking though.
sweetcinnamonpunch@reddit
I can't enjoy new games mostly, because I love old shit like this. So I wouldn't recommend it to a zoomer
CorrosiveRose@reddit
The average person under 45 has not played these games
SoupaMayo@reddit
Wait till Anon learn that the amount of game that "everyone should play" is so high that you just can't play every good old games
There is a ton of games I consider absolute classic but whatever
Hexmonkey2020@reddit
I’m a Zoomer and I’ve played like 4 of those.
Drayenn@reddit
Only played baldurs gate 2 in that list. Its my favorite rpg of all time. Im not sure it aged well though, but i still love it.
jubmille2000@reddit
Ngl, you'll catch me dead before you find me playing morrowind for more than 3 hours everytime I remember that I have it on my steam account, wonder why i didn't complete it, then spend god knows how long starting the game and getting lost immediately.
Oofdude333@reddit
Vampire the masquerade is so goated. Unfortunately, Cyberpunk is a game like that, but better.
KnightAngelic@reddit
Shit im 33 and I missed all of them on release. Tried to go back and play a few but nont of them aged well imo
PrizeCompetitive1186@reddit
Whaat? Have you tried Heroes of Might and Magic with Horn of the abyss?
KnightAngelic@reddit
...never even heard of those
manny011604@reddit
Not true I’ve played morrowind (Xbox series x port first then eventually a modded one on pc)
Both Fallout 1 and 2 and tactics
Baldur’s gate 1-2 they actually were a bundle on Xbox to celebrate the new game for cheap
Vampire the masquerade is still a cultural icon and people replay it all the time the intro of that game is amazing
The rest I know of and haven’t played yet
ungabungabuster@reddit
Baldurs gate 1 and 2 are among my favorite games ever. And planescape torment had great setting with a good story.
underwaterknifefight@reddit
I am a millennial, and these games all suck unless you're autistic
stromyoloing@reddit
This is exposing my age..
rose636@reddit
Why bother listing two Ultima games, Fallout and Baldur's Gates. Not wanting to specify one over the other but there are more than 3 other games of note from the era that could've gone in those places.
bigbadbillyd@reddit
Heroes III was so amazing.
Tumifaigirar@reddit
# decent games in there and 2 are BG
U-47@reddit
I played all of those. I'm streets ahead!
ufailowell@reddit
oh no I am a zoomer now
nik_cool22@reddit
I am from 1995. Have played 4, 5, 6, 8, 9
PrizeCompetitive1186@reddit
You should try 7 :) it has a new expansion
NightWis@reddit
1991, I’ve played all but Ultimas and I’ve played some of them recently.
lucdop@reddit
Zoomer here, because every one of these need a 50gb community patch with a 40 page installation manual to play.
And for most of these the story is fire, but the actual gameplay is dogwater.
PrizeCompetitive1186@reddit
Have you tried Heroes of Might and Magic with new Horn of the Abyss expansion?
PrizeCompetitive1186@reddit
Heroes of Might and Magic 3 is still active today there is new expansion called Horn of the Abyss, I would recommend that you try it new campaing (factory story and all in are next level)
Macca3568@reddit
I'm 26 and I've played fallout 1, Morrowind and vampire the masquerade. All were pretty great
LyadhkhorStrategist@reddit
As a zoomer I have played 7 of these games and some of these are actual peak
boofmaster6000@reddit
I own Fallout 1 and 2, but never got around to playing them. Old games are torturous to play, there's a reason why we've gone through hundreds of quality of life improvements.
Firebreathingwhore@reddit
The amount of time I've put into HOMM III...
Sethleoric@reddit
Rosa is best girl in VTMB btw
DankyBongBlunty@reddit
This is almost pre-millennial I think. I'm 31 and I've played deus ex / HMOM 3 / Morrowind but certainly not on release.
Deus ex was played after human revolution came out, Morrowind after Skyrim came out and HMOM 3 was a recommendation from my IT teacher in school.
Defo gen x vidya imo
wolgl@reddit
I tried BG2 since I like BG3 but the combat seemed rough/was all automated it seemed like. Couldn’t get into it
SmoothPimp85@reddit
Slav Anon made this greentext. Average American millennial also has played apx 0 of these games
Cpt_Soban@reddit
Ah Morrowind my beloved
Frequent_Dig1934@reddit
I think OP may be underestimating Sseth's influence.
Neogranz@reddit
As a self described Zillenial (I was born right around the cutoff and am technically a zoomer) I've played 8 of those games 6 of which to completion.
TrueGootsBerzook@reddit
I played and loved Bloodlines and Morrowind but couldn't get past the tutorial in Deus Ex
BaldingThor@reddit
I have played all except ultima underworld, heros 3 and torment.
TheDeltaOne@reddit
Ultima legit sucks tho.
The entire thing sucks ass. None of those game are good.
goliathusthehunter@reddit
Sacred Gold from later 2000's is peak classic of open world ARPG
Oilprinter@reddit
average 40-something crpg addict be like
General-Carrot-6205@reddit
I only see one game here that is still absurdly popular to this day, the rest are irrelevant.
ElectronicMars@reddit
I've played HoMaM 3 and a little bit of Fallout 1
Checkmate
Petardo_Dilos@reddit
Heroes of might and magic 3 is peak
PlPlDASTER@reddit
Average every zoomer in Eastern Europe played HoMM 3 and Deus Ex
vividpup5535@reddit
Amazing to see Heroes 3 here.
What a game.
Ham_Drengen_Der@reddit
As a zoomer, i can confirm that i have play fallout 1, 2 and morrowwind
crocodilepickle@reddit
Pretty much the only game worth playing in this picture is deus ex (which is an absolute hood classic. Just play it with the transended mod)
Kasefleisch@reddit
Can only agree on HoMM 3 of that list. Play it. It's so good
Cringeextraaxc@reddit
As a zoomer, I’ve played like half of these
-Benjamin_Dover-@reddit
Wrong! Ive played Morrowind! And im only a year older thsn thst game.
Haven't played the rest, though.
Danjou667@reddit
Damn...Deus Ex... Gimme back my youth...
Early_Power_5366@reddit
I was going to say I've seen this game before I just don't know where like was it for consoles or just pc?
Danjou667@reddit
Duno. I was playing it on PC.
Post-Financial@reddit
Yeah sorry I've been busy with good games
Demolisher1543@reddit
Updated my journal.
tyttor1@reddit
In enduring , grow strong
NightWis@reddit
All amazing games. And they are not all surpassed. Deus Ex still an amazing game one of the best narration story immersing you. Torment is still the best story I’ve played. Vampire is still best rpg where all your abilities can be used. You guys should check these out new games are still imitating these titles. And no it’s not hard to run any of these (maybe arcanum require bit more modding) and there are graphics mods in case you need it. And I would add System Shock 2 to the list.
PrrrromotionGiven1@reddit
That's a 3 for me (born 1998)
vverbov_22@reddit
Fallout is fucking garbage. I got it for free in epic gay store and that shit is so ass
xX_SkibidiChungus_Xx@reddit
And yet anon has done NOTHING to bring such experiences to the ones he criticizes. He is part of the problem he complains about.
phyxinon@reddit
As a millennial let me take a look at my 10 year old selfs pocket for hundreds of dollars to buy a pc.
SweetTooth275@reddit
I played half of them, aswell as my friends. God millennials are pathetic, imagine a whole generation making their whole goal in life to compete with other generations and mock them for someone noone cares about.
Pakett16@reddit
I’m a millennial, grew up on morrowind and deus ex, my favorite games . ‘Forced’ myself to play through some of the classics in 2015-17, couldn’t get into homm 3 despite its legendary status, but really liked homm 5. Bg 2, torment and masquerade were amazing once i got past the graphics.
I don’t think kids these days have to play these ancient games, but their stories and atmosphere blow almost anything modern out of the water. There is a reason we had a barrage of failed remakes of old games and movies
echit2112@reddit
how many of these are on the modern consoles that people actually have these days
ponzidreamer@reddit
I’m 31 and never played them, although I’ve watched YouTube videos on every single one