Are ticks and their potential diseases as bad as people say?
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I've only come across ticks twice in my life, once in Namibia and the other time when my dad bought a puppy from a farm. I live in South Wales, spend a lot of time walking my dogs in the countryside, in long grass meadows, woodlands and hills often near farmland but not usually on farmland due to the dogs. I've had a few nasty bites in my time, but couldn't say if they were from ticks. I know to look for the bullseye.
I have become increasingly more paranoid about ticks and their potential to pass on illness like lymes disease, it started when I was pregnant last year I was anxious that I wouldn't be able to take the treatment due to the pregnancy and now I still worry that it could end my breast feeding journey or that the baby might be bitten. Especially as my one dog, due to epilepsy can no longer have the flea treatment that prevents ticks, I'm scared she will get them and bring them home.
I usually wear hiking boots and long leggings or trousers on my walks, but on very hot days have been known to wear shorts. We are planning a family picnic in a long grass meadow where I walk my dogs regularly which is next to a woodland. I'm beginning to worry that sitting there for so long increases the chance of tick bites. I've read that some parts of the UK it's really bad.
So, UK, has anyone had an infection/disease from tick bites? If so how were you? Was it easy to treat? Also are there any people who regularly come across ticks and have been fine. I'd love to hear your experiences.
Thanks.
Squillifish@reddit
FYI the bulls rye rash doesn't always bulls eye. around 30% of infected bite just show up as a red rash.
OffRedFloyd@reddit
Entomologist here. These days tick bites aren’t as bad as we have antibiotics that can deal with Lyme disease fairly well if treated quickly. I’ve had lots of tick bites over the years and never had lyme disease or been treated for it. You should still cover up as much as possible but a tick bite is not the end of the world as long as you deal with it in a timely manner.
Top_Opening_3625@reddit
I was bitten by a tick in Brazil. I didn’t get any treatment as everyone said I would only been to go to the hospital if I showed symptoms like fever etc. I’ve always wondered if this is right.
Careful-Coffee280@reddit
Generally you only need antibiotics after a tick bite if you feel unwell or if you get a rash.
Top_Opening_3625@reddit
Thank you. This was about 7 years ago and it’s stuck in the back of mind and reappears every now and then.
Helicreature@reddit
‘If treated quickly’. If you don’t have a Bull’s Eye rash or know you have been bitten, GP’s don’t even think of it. I saw three GP’s and had full facial paralysis before a Neurologist tested for it. As an Entomologist you know what to look for and what to then do but it didn’t occur to me, the Doctor in A&E or three GPs!
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
3 months in orthopaedics and an athroscopy before being referred to rheumatology because they couldn't work it out initially. Hospital were trying hard but as you say not top of mind due to delay of symptoms.
Lou_LouB@reddit (OP)
That sounds rough.
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
Yes, got bitten by one in the Lake District at 15 and has messed up my life for over 25+ years. Due to lack of awareness of Lyme, it wasn't treated at time and 6 months later flared up as post-viral arthritis leaving me bedbound and then "just" housebound. Gradually burnt out over next decade leaving just CFS, neuropathy and chronic depression behind.
Also took in wildlife with them. One was dying as she had ticks in her mouth. The other had so many he felt like an armadillo and we lost him to organ failure 6 months later.
Ticks are nasty. If get bitten, go and get antibiotics. Ticks carrying Lyme becoming more common in UK.
TobsterVictorSierra@reddit
I get them regularly in rural North Yorkshire. I marker pen the bite sites and check them regularly for Lyme's bullseye in the shower for a month.
Ophiochos@reddit
Just want to show sympathy. I knew someone in the US whose life went fully down the toilet. Last time we spoke she spent her entire life in a darkened room and her parents had burned through their retirement funds trying to help her (good old US healthcare). Fingers crossed your health holds steady.
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
Thank you. At least I am in UK so medical bills covered by state and I have a good employer.
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
Thank you.
New-Rise-8941@reddit
I got bitten at Glastonbury festival a few years ago. I got antibiotics when I got home so I really hope that nipped it in the bud 😩
BraveLordWilloughby@reddit
The vast majority of tic bites do not transmit Lyme or anything else. Even without the antibiotics, you'd almost certainly be fine.
Though getting the antibiotics was of course still sensible.
I walk my dogs through fields and woodlands, so both me and them have picked up our fair share of tics. One dog once came home with 9 on him, luckily only 2 or 3 had a chance to dig in.
I've probably had 4 tics on me over the past 10 years, though the one was in South Africa, and I'm not sure whether they're prone to carrying Lyme.
Never had the antibiotics (probably rather silly), but always been fine.
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
True but the consequences are huge. Do animal rescue on occasion and take in strays. Ticks can do a lot of damage to them too. Know someone who had to treat tick paralysis in an animal.
We walk our pets. We monitor closely. But you do need to be aware in areas known to have ticks. It is much more easily treated in early stages. You're always fine until the time you are not.
BraveLordWilloughby@reddit
To be fair, I'd be bankrupt if I got meds for my dogs after every tic bite. They do get checked every time they come back from a walk though, and the tics removed
Lou_LouB@reddit (OP)
This sounds awful sorry that this happened to you. X
Alyssa9876@reddit
Hubby got Lyme disease from a tick bite in Scotland but we spotted the bullseye pattern and he was treated. He spent weeks in bed and months of very tired and just about managing work. Probably a year to feel normal again. Dog gets flea and tick treatment from the vet-they have a monthly program to cover it and other treatments. Hubby had a few years where viruses and infections seemed to hit him really badly just after and he actually had pneumonia which knocked him back again. But overall is fine now. It’s a horrible disease so best to use repellent and cover up.
narnababy@reddit
I can’t comment on the disease aspect but I will say this: This year already seems to be a bad year for ticks. I work as an ecologist and our team has had more ticks this year so far than the previous 3 years all together. I don’t know if it’s climate change, tastier ecologists, or the areas we’re working in this year, but we’re at 13 tick bites this season already and we’ve have to put on extra training around tick prevention.
Neddlings55@reddit
Ticks are certainly really bad in some places. Where i am for instance. Im flicking a good 10-15 off of my dog each day, and maybe having to use a tick hook 3 or 4 times a week for the ones i miss.
Ive had a few attach to me over the years and never had an issue. I do make sure i cover up completely though. Id rather get hot than lyme disease.
Lyme is the main risk and it varies area to area.
Breakwaterbot@reddit
Do you not get Bravecto tablets for your dog? That's what mine used to have (we went hiking together a lot) and it was magic.
Neddlings55@reddit
No. My dog cant take any form of topical or oral flea/tick treatment. He has had too many major reactions to drugs over the years to risk routine medications, plus im not a fan or how overused they are and the damage they cause to the environment.
He is 11 now, hasnt had anything for about 8 years and has never had fleas. Have a worm count done every 4-6 months and nothing has ever shown up.
Never used them on my previous dogs either.
Ticks are easy enough to deal with anyway, and Lyme disease in dogs is pretty rare too.
Cardabella@reddit
Tick borne encephalitis is horrendous FYI. It may or may not be prevalent where you live but controlling tick bites is very important where it is.
Neddlings55@reddit
So incredibly rare in the UK that its not a consideration. Only a handful of cases in humans since it was discovered in 2019.
zipitdirtbag@reddit
I'm, I don't think it was discovered in 2019.
Unless you mean, first seen in he UK then?
Neddlings55@reddit
Latter.
Cardabella@reddit
I was considering cases in dogs. I rescued a dog who had chronic TBE and it was a cruel disease.
Neddlings55@reddit
So was i, and i cant even find reports of confirmed cases of dogs being infected in the UK its that rare.
Infected ticks were only discovered back in 2019 and only in two small areas of the entire country.
The risk is minimal for dogs in the UK. The ones that are more at risk are the ones being shipped over from overseas, or taken aboard on holiday.
To become infected with TBE in the UK would be extremely rare indeed and not something owners need to be worrying about.
Cardabella@reddit
Not something almost all owners need worry about unless they're in one of the areas it's known to exist, in which case they should be aware of that and discuss it with their vet. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tick-borne-encephalitis-epidemiology-diagnosis-and-prevention
Neddlings55@reddit
I thought you were talking about dogs, so why link to advice for humans and advice thats about the 5 different subtypes that exist across the world, and put people at risk due to international travel?
Cardabella@reddit
Because that link indicated places in UK with TBE. People shouldn't come to me or you for advice. They should go to their vet. I've seen the harm it can do.
Breakwaterbot@reddit
Fair enough mate. Wasn't being judgemental in any way btw, just know that it's what worked for my dog all those years but understand they're all different.
I ended up getting Bravecto from the vet after my dog had the worst case of fleas I've ever seen after he attacked a hedgehog (he was a rescue JRT who seemingly had no fear or any form of pain threshold). We went 10 years after that without ever getting fleas, ticks or worms.
Oh and for anyone concerned, don't worry the hedgehog was fine. He went to a rescue centre and made a full recovery.
Neddlings55@reddit
Oh i dont feel judged.
Everyone has to do what they feel best for their animals. Its all about performing our own little risk assessments.
For me, the risk of using certain products on my dog massively outweighs the minimal risk of tick borne disease. Should he ever get fleas or worms, then he would be treated accordingly knowing he may have a serious reaction.
Im certainly not one of those people that relies on natural shit like essential oil sprays or hairy dog treats, as those do nothing for internal or external parasites.
I am very much someone who will only treat something if its needs treating though. I dont like the routine application of certain products if they arent needed. The use of flea/tick treatment may soon be more restricted too because of the impact and damage to the environment, especially waterways.
Lou_LouB@reddit (OP)
She used to, but it triggers her epilepsy. My other dog still has it.
NefariousnessLate375@reddit
OCD?
phiger78@reddit
my wife got a tick bite last year whilst we were in france. Got back home and she got the classic bullseye. She got antiboitics within the hour of the bulls eye showing. unfortnatley even after that she now has chronic fatigue!
Horrible horrible things
backwards-inside-@reddit
You can get a soresto collar for the dog which does fleas and ticks. They last 6-9 months and my dog hasn’t had either since we started using them 3-4 years ago. Highly recommend them.
And you’re doing the right things. Keep your legs covered in long grass and if your worries about sitting for a prolonged time just have a check over when you get home. I have come across ticks farely often and been fine. Just keep an eye. And generally if they bite they stay on so easy to spot and remove them.
ParticularSubject314@reddit
I might be wrong but the risk of Lyme disease might be lower in areas without deer.
Fireflykoala@reddit
Can be, but they are rare in most areas.
quartersessions@reddit
I avoid walking the dog in certain places where they just seem to be prevalent. He still gets a few a year from rural walks which we remove. I've never been bitten, as far as I'm aware.
There definitely seems to be a lot more of them then a decade ago. I grew up in the countryside and ticks were never even discussed - despite lots of running around in long grass in shorts.
feedthetrashpanda@reddit
My partner got Lyme Disease for a tick and it wasn't diagnosed until months later when he began struggling a lot with fatigue and general malaise.
He basically had to fight to even see a GP about it, they tried to convince him he didn't have it and no further action was required, but he insisted.
They then must have sat on the blood test for ages because about two months after the appointment he suddenly got a TEXT saying "pick up your antibiotics asap, you do have Lyme Disease". No debrief, no apologies or anything.
He was very fortunate to be completely fine with no lasting damage but it was annoying how long it took and how dismissive everyone was.
SubstantialShow8@reddit
Ticks use grass and bracken as a kind of bus stop for transferring between mammals, so while it's easier for them to make their connection in long grass the presence of grazers is the risk factor rather than length per se.
They are usually on someone for about 2 hours before actually biting, so periodically checking reduces risk a lot. Definitely have a look after your picnic and consider sitting on a rug. They don't particularly like humans as we're not fairly enough and will sometimes hop off without biting. Shaving your legs makes them easier to see
The vast majority of ticks don't carry Lyme's and the vast majority of people who get Lyme's don't experience after affects. For people who do it's pretty terrible so it's worth talking precautions but don't avoid spending time in nature.
Totally unrelated to your question but since you mentioned your worries ramped up during pregnancy and now your baby has arrived, has your health visitor mentioned post partum anxiety, which hasn't got the same profile that ppd has?
Lou_LouB@reddit (OP)
I do have some anxiety, it was an ivf baby and the anxiety ramped up during my last round and early pregnancy. I know it's there, but it's manageable.
SubstantialShow8@reddit
Sounds like getting out with the dog will be great for your little family. Your chance of getting Lyme's is really low, don't let the ticks put you off. And as long as you are loving and feeding the baby they'll be fine in the long run
Norman_debris@reddit
In the UK they aren't that dangerous. On the continent, however, you can catch tick-borne encephalitis, which is pretty grim.
CicadaSlight7603@reddit
Yes I know multiple people who never recovered from Lyme. Healthy fit people until they weren’t. Take ticks incredibly seriously.
Emergency_Pea_2232@reddit
Father in law currently has Lyme from a tick. I also didn’t think we got it in the uk until I googled it.
forluvoflemons@reddit
What symptoms of any does your FIL experience?
Helicreature@reddit
I was bitten by a tick. No bullseye rash, had no idea it had happened. I started to feel unwell and was diagnosed with Bell’s Palsy. A week later the other half of my face froze too. I could barely speak, couldn’t blink and thankfully ended up in front of a Neurologist who tested for Lyme and had it confirmed by Porton Down hours later.
I spent a week in hospital on an antibiotic drip and had to see an Ophthalmologist for weeks until my eyes recovered. I felt unwell for weeks afterwards.
The Neurologist told me that she was ‘seeing more and more cases in this area’. ( Hampshire woodland). Now, if I’m walking the dog you can bet your life I’m wearing, long trousers and hiking boots and checking myself when I get home - whatever the temperature.
Tastetherainbow_2016@reddit
Been bitten three times in my life (that I know of), first time I was 12/13 and spending a lot of time around horses in the Kent countryside, so not unusual to find ticks. The other two times were in London, dont think that being in the middle of town = no ticks!
Tbh I’ll never know how healthy I could have been without the tick bites. The first was never treated because it was the 90s and awareness was 0, so we had no idea what the rash was and I experienced horrible symptoms throughout my teenage years. The second went untreated for nearly 2 years due to medical incompetence and gaslighting, the third was promptly treated, but I’d already been diagnosed with a list of assorted autoimmune disorders by that stage, none of which run in my family.
My health is pretty messed up now at age 42, ngl. I see elderly folk who are a 100x more sprightly than I am and it does me wonder, “what if..?” But time machines dont exist, so what can you do
All you can do is take precautions, cover your skin, use repellents, do thorough tick checks of yourself and pets, and just live your life. I dont believe in pathalogical avoidance of grass and nature, it’s a miserable way to live. Awareness is great, but dont let it ruin your enjoyment of the great outdoors. Also, you can get permethrin spray to treat any blankets you’ll be sitting on for picnics, which will hopefully ease your worry :)
Aisha-Was-Nine@reddit
I get bitten by ticks like once a week, it’s pretty gross but if you’re diligent about finding and removing them it’s fine. Takes 48 hours of attachment for diseases to spread
Wooden_Astronaut4668@reddit
Most people will not get Lyme disease from a tick bite.
Be vigilant for ticks, make sure you own a tick removal tool and remove them as soon as possible.
Doxycycline is considered okay to take whilst breastfeeding for courses up to 21 days, the calcium in milk helps to inhibit its absorption. Its a 21 day course for Lyme disease.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK500561/
OldTomToad@reddit
I get ticks all the time during summer. I walk through a forest most days. I remove them carefully and haven’t ever experienced more than a tiny raised bump (like an insect bite). I keep an eye, if I got a “bullseye” around the bite I’d get medical advice but haven’t needed to yet.
RideAltruistic3141@reddit
It sounds like you're pretty vigilant, but just to raise awareness that the bullseye doesn't present in all cases and that's one of the issued that can come up - people and even healthcare professionals discount Lyme disease as a diagnosis because they don't find the bullseye so assume it can't be Lyme.
TrackTeddy@reddit
Unless you are walking through long grass or scrub you aren’t likely to get one on you or get bitten.
However if you do get bitten there is a chance of infection. Lyme disease is the one to worry about as it can be very serious if untreated. If you get a bullseye rash around the bite then go see the doc.
My neighbour got it and sadly had issues for years afterward with chronic fatigue.
That said many people get bitten dozens of times without any issue. My lad has picked them up numerous times without any no ill effects so far.
Learn how to remove them properly and promptly and you minimise the risks. Get a tick removal card for your wallet/purse if you are worried about them.
Obviously prevention is better than cure so trousers tucked into socks and DEET repellent if you are going to high risk locations.
decentlyfair@reddit
I got bitten by a tick in Sweden (live in uk) went to dr and then gave me anti histamine and when that didn’t work a course of anti biotics. The rash disappeared but I gradually became very ill. Two years later after much investigation and blood tests it was discovered I had lyme’s six months of anti biotics. I am cross that the doctor didn’t pick it up and at the time I didn’t know about lymes. I never want to relive that two years again it was horrific.
Tonybham01@reddit
Simple answer to a long question. Yes they can be.
Princes_Slayer@reddit
I had two dogs and occasionally we would find one or two on them. Trying to peel one off my dogs bollock was certainly not something on the bingo card of life.
So yeah, I also discovered one on the middle of my back down the spine. Dunno how long it was there. Got the fucker off and phoned the GP the next day in case I’d need antibiotics but they said unlikely unless I get the bullseye. Well it’s easy to forget and check when it’s located somewhere you don’t see easily.
This was maybe 12 years ago. I’ve experienced a lot of muscular and joint pain in the last 7 years or so that GP has done tests on and I have questioned if it could link back to the tick bite but again told unlikely. I mostly get told it’s weight related (it started when I was thinner, I’ve gained and lost weight since and the pain is the same at any size).
It could be peri-M pain which is probably more likely as I’m in my 40’s, but not allowed HRT I’m at risk of clots.
You are doing everything right in respect of clothing when out in long grass. Find places with short grass for your picnic. Do what you can to stop it consuming your thoughts when out in nature though or it will stop you going there. We found an abundance of ticks swarmed our dog when we walked around a body of water not far from Loch Ness but it won’t stop us going there…the bastard midgies might though
evelynsmee@reddit
I've had one on my dog's penis, and his eyelid. I feel your pain....the things we never thought we'd do!!
evelynsmee@reddit
I know a couple people who got Lyme Disease and they were really quite poorly yes. But I don't think it's common relative to the population etc.
It doesn't stop me hiking. My dogs get their stuff monthly, and I check them after walks. Also I do try to avoid high tick areas (places were cattle or deer are), and I'd check my legs etc afterwards just in case. I'm 39 and I've picked ticks off myself like half a dozen times max in my whole life.
gwentlarry@reddit
I'm in my 70s. I've traveled the world quite a lot and walked in the outdoors quite a lot. Lots of places in the UK, Peru, Equador, Galapagos, several areas of the US, South Africa, India, Japan, Spain, Portugal, France and more. Quite often in shorts and sandals :-)
I've never once had a tick latch on to me.
Ok_Requirement_7489@reddit
I have been bitten by ticks loads of times and thankfully haven't had any issues. My 2yo daughter had her first bite recently and was also fine.
One of my best friends is a gp and she just said keep an eye out for the bullseye mark around the bite and if it appears as long as you get it treated asap with antibiotics you will be fine.
Pukit@reddit
I stopped bothering with flea and tick treatment for my dog as was broke one year and never continued. I’ve never seen a flea on him and brush him every other day. He gets as many ticks with the treatment as without it, I read it doesn’t do a great deal regardless.
I take maybe three ticks off him a month. I’ve never had one on me or my child. They’re easy to whip off and squash. I live in the Surrey hills and my dog is walked in heathland everyday.
As far as I’m aware if you see the bullseye mark then antibiotics can treat it.
I certainly don’t worry nor would I change any habit due to the potential concern of collecting a tick.
TyBattleCat@reddit
As far as I know regarding Lyme’s, it’s important to get them detached the same day. Having said that, I’ve only ever seen three ticks, on my cats, about 25 years ago, and I’ve had lots of cats and a dog since then.
Obviously they aren’t a positive, but it’s important to keep some perspective - if, for example, you get bitten and have the target 🎯 mark, then definitely see a pharmacist about it. Otherwise keeping a tick remover in the house and checking your dog during tick season is probably all you need to do, if you’re in a high prevalence area.
atomicshrimp@reddit
Ticks are really abundant near where I live. I was out picking bilberries amongst heather and bracken and I looked down to see literally dozens of them creeping up the outside of my trousers (which were fortunately tucked into my socks). I brushed them all off and checked and double checked, but still found later on that one had crawled all the way up me and fastened itself in my armpit.
The diseases they can potentially transmit include Lyme disease, as commonly discussed, but also a form of encephalitis that has no cure, and also alpha-gal syndrome where the tick triggers a severe and persistent allergy to a sugar molecule found in meat and dairy.
It's one of those things where the risks are fairly low in terms of probability, but very high in terms of severity.
Breakwaterbot@reddit
Lyme disease is no joke however it's pretty rare in the UK.
My friend and I both got ticks when we were hiking in Scotland. Didn't notice until a few days later when I was getting ready for bed and my wife spotted it on my back. After a sleepless nights I went to see the doctor and they removed it for me. After that it was a matter of playing the waiting game but nothing ever happened and I've been fine since.
Motor-Command-2680@reddit
Yes they are really common now. Growing up in the 70s and 80s i never saw any in my area but i think the deer population has grown so much since the 90s that they are becoming more and more prevalent.
I got one on me in 2024 in Filey, East Yorkshire. I was on me for 4 day's before i noticed it. I took a gamble and chanced it not having lymes and luckily it paid off. Not had any symptoms anyway. I should of gone my GP and got antibiotics really though.
Free_Ad7415@reddit
Yeah they can be really bad. I had one last year and I was given weeks of antibiotics because you don’t know if it will hit you at some point in your life
Look up Lyme disease symptoms
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