The ideal blowout 😂

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paulbunyanshat@reddit

You got at least another 300 miles on that

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Inker0@reddit

Can't ask for a better outcome. I'm sure bossman was happy to hear he needs to buy a tire though.

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Legally (in the US), it has to be chained up to not count.. and while driving with a chained up axle is fine, if you get caught with it down, you aren't allowed to chain it up as the "fix" to resolve the oos order...

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Iwytsmd7@reddit (OP)

We checked on that, we have isolation valves that lock each individual lift axle in place so the cab switches can’t operate them. Chain isnt necessary. With the weight I had on, I didn’t really need that axle down legally anyway.

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Ornery_Ads@reddit

The law is that it must be chained up to not count.
Practically speaking, yeah, it's fine. Legally speaking? Still oos.

Are they actually going to bust your balls over it? Probably not.
I'm just giving the legal info, not the practical info.

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Iwytsmd7@reddit (OP)

It’s only out of service if your trailer isn’t set up to isolate the lift axle. Some multi axle trailers aren’t set up to do that, so it must be chained. Legally speaking, I don’t have to chain it. Confirmed by Michigan DOT

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Chamber53@reddit

I want to hear a rebuttal or a submission!!!! /u/Ornery_Ads

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Ornery_Ads@reddit

Ooh, this is actually an interesting one.

From 2022 CVSA OOS handbook:

Raised lift axles are to be inspected to ensure all components are secure and for conditions that adversely affect the vehicle’s operation (e.g., air leaks, etc.). If a critical vehicle inspection Item defect is discovered on the raised axle, the vehicle is not eligible to receive a CVSA decal and the defect should be documented in the notes section of the inspection report. The raised lift axle shall not be included in determining the total number of brakes on a vehicle combination for the 20 percent service brake calculation. The axle is subject to inspection unless mechanically prevented from being lowered.

Under 2022 guidance, the axle must be chained up or the defect still counts for oos.

What makes it interesting, though, is the 2016 CVSA handbook, has the same beginning of that paragraph, but instead, it ends with:

If the raised lift axle is required to be lowered to comply with regulatory requirements in order to continue operation, the operator has the option to adjust or offload cargo. Otherwise the axle is subject to inspection.

They have definitely flip-flopped on this point so we're both right? Or both wrong?

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lawlet91@reddit

It does not need to be chained it needs to be mechanically locked, so no he’s right in that lifting it and isolated it is the mechanical lock in question, chaining is irrelevant

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Iwytsmd7@reddit (OP)

I mean at this point I don’t think he/she is going to understand that not every trailer is designed the same. I’ve had to chain up a lift axle on a Talbert 4 axle RGN trailer because of a blown tire. I could have simply adjusted the leveling valve all the way up, but I knew that wasn’t the right way to do it. Can’t even post on Reddit to get a laugh without nicking a hall monitor 🤭

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Ornery_Ads@reddit

OP says he has a valve to keep that axle lifted. That would suggest it is held up only by the inflated airbag, therefore it is pneumatically being prevented from being lowered, not mechanically.

They wrote the exact words that they wanted to use, and those words have specific meanings.

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Iwytsmd7@reddit (OP)

That’s not low lift axles work dude. I cant believe i have to waste a single fucking second on another “i have to be right or my life is fucked” incel.
The axle isnt held up by an inflated bag, it is lowered by inflating the suspension bag. A cab switch electronically opens a valve to inflate the bags, to lower the axle. If I manually turn a DIFFERENT valve, on the air line, WITH MY FUCKING HAND, I can flip that cab switch to lower the other axle, but the axle with the blown tire STAYS UP.
MECHANICALLY DISABLED.

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Inside-Finish-2128@reddit

Those two aren’t mutually exclusive. On one hand, it’s eligible for inspection unless it’s mechanically locked. However, if the only way to make your axle weights legal is to use the axle, then it’s fair game for inspection (and you’ll fail because of that tire or lack thereof) or you have to slide some axles or offload some cargo to get legal.

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Iwytsmd7@reddit (OP)

I pulled over when it blew out, and the tread ring was barely hanging on. Some pieces ended up on the shoulder, but the tread got tossed in the bin at the yard.

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DanEpiCa@reddit

That's really the best case one could hope for. Good for you.