DOJ Orders Apple, Google to Hand Over OBDII App User Data in Emissions Probe

My guess is the EPA is going to punish the people who defeated emissions with them, and that’s why they want a data. To make an example out of them, previously they just fined the company, now they want to go after the individual that did it.

I don’t love the idea of handing over data like that from a SWE perspective, but from the perspective of someone who’s been rolled coal on while walking their dog, I hope they get fined out the ass and made an example of.

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OmericanAutlaw@reddit

bro loves government overreach as long as it fulfills his fantasies.

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HillarysFloppyChode@reddit

The Environment Protection Agency doing its job to protect the environment is hardly government overreach.

Theirs no reason, whatsoever a lifted pickup needs to be able to dump clouds of thick, black smoke from its exhaust, it has marginal performance gains and damages the engine and exhaust system in the process.

Its only real purpose is for individuals tip toeing the line between brain dead and severely mentally disabled to hurt people and animals while putting on a Vegas level advertisement of how insecure they are with their masculinity.

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hi_im_bored13@reddit

lifted pickup needs to be able to dump clouds of thick, black smoke

ts only real purpose

I was under the impression most of the demand for work on these diesels is for a delete? which while to be clear is still magnitudes worse for the environment & I'm not endorsing it whatsoever etc does improve reliability/power/economy?

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ShadyDrunks@reddit

Yes, that's why all the government diesels don't come with emissions equipment

But they'll imprison you for deleting, go figure

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LordofSpheres@reddit

Plenty of them do retain all emissions equipment. Only the ones going into combat zones or expected to run on JP-8 don't, as far as I recall.

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ShadyDrunks@reddit

Their trucks in DC I saw were deleted

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LordofSpheres@reddit

And all the USFS diesels I've ever seen have all their factory equipment intact.

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hi_im_bored13@reddit

I feel like thats fine when its a matter of national security & defense, likewise w/ ambulances etc, thats just me though, & assuming they are using the diesels sparingly (which of course isn't always the case)

if anything the solution there is that both we & the gov should follow emissions standards

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4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r@reddit

Yep you can increase reliability power and economy, to the point some manufactures cheated the emissions tests for diesels and VW got the book thrown at them over it.

The emissions systems on the VW's at least are so unreliable long term that unless you are in warranty it is thousands cheaper to just delete it and not have problems anymore. My personal VW TDI had the AdBlue system replaced 4 times under the extended warranty. If Covid didn't make car prices go crazy and I got thousands more then I paid for it there is a non zero chance I would have deleted it after warranty expired just because of cost and reliability of the emission system post fix.

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hi_im_bored13@reddit

Yeah but that goes against your earlier comment of saying like the only reason to do this is as an advertisement on how insecure they are with their masculinity theres real but still not valid reasons to dodge emissions on diesels

I feel like the EPA would be going after those folks? I imagine thats a much larger market than blowing smoke tunes, I'd wager the majority of ICE tuners arent going for flame/pop tunes either

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4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r@reddit

I'm not the original person in this thread, just added my personal experience. I would definitely agree that the majority of diesel tuners probably are not the coal rolling crowd just like gasoline tuners are not just pop tuners.

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hi_im_bored13@reddit

Oh sorry saw the red profile & confused you both

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ShadyDrunks@reddit

Wasn't it just ruled that EPA doesn't have jurisdiction in that?

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Why would trump do this?

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ShadyDrunks@reddit

Uuuuh what the fuck does Apple and Google have to do with OBDII data? CarPlay and Android Auto don't run over OBDII

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kstetter@reddit (OP)

They probably log it for advertisements

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ShadyDrunks@reddit

But how? You get a BT/WiFi/Cable connection,

I'm guessing the answer is gonna be the headunit is getting OBDII data, if that's true, that's fucked up

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mschiebold@reddit

"emissions data" = driving habits, routes, your entire daily timetable. They're gonna feed it to Palantir and no-knock anyone they don't like.

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DelanoJ@reddit

Interesting how they don’t give af about emissions anymore but still want people’s data

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NetworkDeestroyer@reddit

Can’t build data centers without the “data” what a joke

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whiteraven13@reddit

They can make money off the latter

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pdp10@reddit

The agency acting here is said to be the DoJ, with the only mention of the EPA being on background. Jurisdictional fight between agencies? Fishing expedition?

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willpc14@reddit

Jurisdictional fights tend to be attempts to pawn the case off onto someone else. It's not like TV where everyone is fighting to investigate/prosecute the case.

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