I explained early eBay to a youth and I can’t believe we did all that
Posted by SugarsBoogers@reddit | GenX | View on Reddit | 139 comments
I was a very early eBay adopter. In the first year or so it existed, these were the steps to complete a transaction:
Take a photo of the item
Get the photos developed
Scan the photos in
Upload photos using dial-up (praying it wasn’t interrupted)
Wait for bids
Wait for a check to arrive in the mail from the buyer
Deposit the check at the bank and wait for it to clear
Pack and ship the item with handwritten labels (or printed, but not generated by eBay or the post office)
Wait for feedback
The whole process took a couple of weeks at best. Hard to believe how far things have come in just 30 years. It was so pure back then. The first thing I sold was a stuffed Christmas moose that played music when you squeezed it.
DLS3141@reddit
I remember sniping auctions, waiting until the last few seconds to place my bid. I started doing it manually, then my dad showed me this site called Phantom Bidder. You’d enter your eBay account/password, then identify several auctions selling acceptable copies of the thing you wanted to buy and tell it the max you wanted to bid. It would automatically enter your bid at the last second on these auctions until you won, then stop bidding.
eBay eventually developed technology that they couldn’t circumvent, so the website went away.
Rough_Condition75@reddit
I used that too
Firstcounselor@reddit
College teacher told us about it and gave a hint to look for misspelled items. I found some Wahl professional clippers spelled Wall that I got for like $8 as the only bidder.
SugarsBoogers@reddit (OP)
Yes! There used to be a site called FatFinger eBay or something and it would find all the misspelled listings for you. I forgot all about that but whoever built it was my hero.
Natural_King2704@reddit
I still sell my stuff on eBay. It's not as fun as it once was. Too many drop shippers
BrokenHero287@reddit
I used to buy from drop shippers on ebay. I'm not going to spend $150 a year for Amazon prime. I would rather pay a drop shipper $2-$5 more for an item then Amazon charges, and they then drop ship it to me as their Prime gift.
If I order a few drop ships from Amazon a year, those $2 to $5 are never going to add up anywhere close to $150 a year. However, I stopped this when Amazon lets you 1 once twice a year do a free Prime trial, and then another once or twice a year they give you a $1.99 trial.
Natural_King2704@reddit
My thing is that they post cheap made stuff, and then claim that they make it. There's no way that I can (or would) sell one of my handmade pouches for 39.00
BrokenHero287@reddit
I think you are just talking about China crap, or what we now call Temu crap. You can drop ship anything, it doesn't have to be China Crap.
Before there was an Aliexpress or Temu they would sell stuff directly from China, and it would take 4-10 weeks to show up. Other sellers would important this stuff to the US, so they could ship it from the US and have it arrive in a week.
Natural_King2704@reddit
Exactly. This practice has widespread effects
BrokenHero287@reddit
The good thing about Temu and Aliexpress is they make more money on those platforms because they don't have to pay ebay fees, so some of that China Crap is disappearing from ebay and going to those other platforms.
Natural_King2704@reddit
It's showing up at Renaissance Festivals. They are pushing out the "true" vendors
BrokenHero287@reddit
That's shocking that they are selling China crap in person. Who are the people buying this? Because they wouldn't be selling it if people were not buying it.
People probably see the stuff they want for cheaper and don't care about the quality.
Natural_King2704@reddit
That's exactly it. Why pay 200.00 for a handmade leather pouch, when you can buy a pouch just like it for 75.00
Inkdman73@reddit
OMG YES! Hahahha- I completely remember this
yeahwellokay@reddit
I used eBay for the first time in 1996/97, but I don't remember mailing a check.
DumpsterDoggie@reddit
I (have) never bought expensive items off ebay and always took the chance and put cash in a card. I never got screwed and always got the 'super-fast payment!' comment. I figured that was code for 'cash.'
BrokenHero287@reddit
I completely forgot about super-fast payment. I always got that when I would pay pal within an hour.
Getting_By_Jude@reddit
I remember mailing checks up till about 95 / 96 and they teamed up with PayPal at some point and I thought it was the most awesome idea every.
fujidust@reddit
I started using the site in 1998 and I think by then, PayPal was already an option.
myleftone@reddit
Is eBay still a bid site? I’ve filtered it out forever because I would rather just buy something.
Natural_King2704@reddit
It's both. I buy stuff straight out all of the time. Some of the auctions are fun, too, tho
BrokenHero287@reddit
The auctions are only fun when you don't get any serious bidders and get a good deal.
BrokenHero287@reddit
Its been 90% buy it now for almost 20 years. The only time something is an auction is when someone thinks a bidding war will inflate the price and give them more money then a buy it now.
Rough-Cherry5678@reddit
Still active but less bidding these days. I collect militia and can occasionally find some good stuff on there
Sad-Macaroon9067@reddit
There used to be entire, physical stores dedicated to eBay. You'd drop your items off, they'd handle it all, then you'd split the proceeds.
I never used them then, but would now if they still existed.
BrokenHero287@reddit
These fad stores seem to pop up every decade, last for 5 years, then they all go bust around the same time. There used to be battery and ink cartridge stores, and now there are 3-D printer stores.
ApplicationUpper9229@reddit
Remember the store in the 40 Year Old Virgin movie?
I Sell Your Stuff On eBay
“How does that work?”
GooseySill@reddit
I never sold anything, but purchased quite a bit from say '98 to '07. I certainly don't miss having to buy money orders to get stuff from eBay. Ha ha!
_ism_@reddit
god it doesn't feel that long for me, i remember when paypal made it easier but it was still lots of steps
BizzyQueenBee@reddit
I remember feeling like I was “winning”, when in reality I was paying for the item, plus shipping, plus a profit for the seller….yet still I won! 😂🎉
wmnoe@reddit
Digital cameras existed before ebay, and weren't hard to get or super expensive. and digital payments already existed. Ive been on ebay since 98 and i didn't do any of that stuff.
SugarsBoogers@reddit (OP)
I didn’t have a digital camera when I started using eBay, and digital payments weren’t available. I remember because I got a bad review because I forgot I deposited a check into my savings instead of checking and missed when it cleared, so mailed it very late. That was 96 or 97.
Ok-Name1312@reddit
They used a 3.5" floppy disk and couldn't fit that many low res pictures.
security-six@reddit
The first thing I bought was a stuffed Christmas moose the played music when I squeezed it
ScaresBums@reddit
My biggest regret in life is that my current eBay account was established in 2002.
I forgot my password info for the account I had and used regularly in 1999.
Capital-Meringue-164@reddit
I still remember my first eBay sale lol - it was a huge awkward lamp I sold for like 5 bucks but cost me 30 to pack and ship, plus a better part of a day.
fuzzimus@reddit
Was it a major award and fra-gee-leh?
Lucky-Mushroom-Dog@reddit
I joined on 98. I sent cash and was sent cash without a problem. Auctions didn't require advertising fees to be seen. You put your auction up and it showed up for everyone in a linear timeline. It was great.
Met my husband on an eBay chatboard and made a lot of friends there. I still talk to some to this day.
jackandcherrycoke@reddit
How much was your winning bid for him? Was there a bidding war? An ex trying to snipe bid at the last second?
Lucky-Mushroom-Dog@reddit
In those days, you could buy things for a penny.
ooooooootreyngers@reddit
Good one
BizRec@reddit
it used to be called "auctionweb" and I remember checking all the new listings every day.
Individual-Fail4709@reddit
I took a huge risk and bought a car at an eBay auction early in their existence. Everything worked fine, car was as advertised. Took a bit longer than I expected. I would not do that today.
BizRec@reddit
I bought a 1988 bmw on ebay!
Saint_Body@reddit
I bought my first Jeep (Cherokee) off eBay! My 2nd too now that I think about it. Both were good vehicles and I had zero regrets!
Positive-Froyo-1732@reddit
Me too, back when it was an amusing anecdote to tell people "I bought my car on eBay." It was a special edition New Beetle. My favorite car ever. ❤️
Individual-Fail4709@reddit
Sweet! That's amazing. Mine was a 1987 911.
tequilavip@reddit
I didn't join until September of 1998 and I swear I had a digital camera by then.
chimpyjnuts@reddit
We had those Sony Mavica with the floppy disc at work. They came out in '97. Like 3 pics on a disc, potato resolution lol. Still got used a lot.
blackpony04@reddit
I used one of those for inspections at my work. I thought it was an amazing piece of technology and it felt impressive to crack that thing out in front of other people. I would feel the same way when I got my first Nextel phone and then again with my Blackberry.
Now I own the largest cell phone on the planet full of the most impressive tech and no one gives a shit because they have one too!
Ivotedforher@reddit
And it looked like something Fischer Price would make, right?
chimpyjnuts@reddit
Yup! But still way better than the Polaroids, or having to wait at least overnight for film. Cell phone cameras made documentation *so much* better.
Fredricko100@reddit
I got a sweet diamond rio mp3 player in 1999.
Ok-Name1312@reddit
I opened an ebay account in June 1999 to sell a diamond Rio mp3 player that I won in a raffle. I have no way to check transaction details from that long ago...if it was you, thanks again for the purchase. A+++ buyer.
icanliveinthewoods@reddit
I only sold a few items on eBay in the late 90’s. My college roommate sold a lot and offered to help me post a few items. I sold a book on how to watercolor, and the soundtrack to the Gettysburg movie on cd (which I’ve never seen, but got for Christmas one year). I didn’t have much to sell, since I was in a tiny dorm room and most of my possessions were back at home.
My roommate sold a lot. After selling some random items, she somehow figured out that selling her underwear was extremely profitable. She’d wear them, post a picture of them on eBay, they’d sell, she’d mail them off. She did this most of the school year and made hundreds of dollars each month. Unwashed (I don’t think eBay allows this anymore but I am not about to dig into that policy). Best prices for granny panties with a little bit of period stain. Plainer underwear like Hanes she bought at Walmart sold better for whatever reason than a lacy thong. She stayed vague with personal details but did say she was a university student.
Then she got really sleeved out one day and immediately stopped selling underwear on eBay. One guy started repeatedly buying from her. This guy was using a email account from a university in upstate western New York, with his initials and last name attached to it. At first she figured he was a student there, but after looking at the university website she found he was a professor and looked to be in late middle age. She started thinking about how it’d feel to have one of her own professors buy her panties, freaked out, and said she was done.
ooooooootreyngers@reddit
Wow
froction@reddit
I made a bunch of money in the late 90s selling stuff on EBay (and similar sites) and drop-shipping it from some shady Chinese distributor.
I remember there was this one particular folding utility trailer (the kind you tow behind your vehicle) that I could get for $399. I would run an auction wth a reserve of $500 and every single time it would sell for much more, like even getting up over $1,000 a few times. I would make some specific, but high, shipping fee "due to it being so large heavy," but the company I drop-shipped from had some deal where they could send it for $20. So I would end up getting like $750 for the trailer plus $112.59 (or whatever) for shipping when my total cost was $419. I bet I did at least 100 of those.
tunaman808@reddit
Sounds familiar. French supermodel Laetitia Casta was a Guess? model for a while, and Guess? sold posters of her ads for $10 on their website. I'd put that shit on eBay, sell it for $75 (plus shipping), then order the winner his or her poster from guess.com!
Right about the time Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon became "Internet huge" a top-notch bootleg DVD appeared. It had screenprinted info on the disc, a genuinely well-printed sleeve, the works. It was VERY hard to tell it was fake. I bought them from Malaysia for $10 or $15 and sold them on eBay for $60-$75 each!
ExtraAd7611@reddit
That's quite the finagle. Well played.
How could anyone ship a trailer for $20? That's hard to imagine even in the 1990s.
froction@reddit
No idea. It took a couple weeks, but it got there. It was also 4x8, folded in half, and required some assembly.
RustyDawg37@reddit
lol. Is this "ai"?
I was there. No one used photos.
Makes it even wilder I guess.
housevil@reddit
I remember what a pain in the butt it was to go out and get a money order when the seller wouldn't accept personal checks.
user_number_666@reddit
I had forgotten about that!
ExtraAd7611@reddit
The only thing I regularly buy, actually rent, is timeshare vacation rentals, from owners who can't use them.
DuckyDoodleDandy@reddit
I didn’t know that was a thing. How do you do that?
ForwardObserver13Fox@reddit
I’m going to date myself, but I remember when you could select the “see all” button and look at all 330 items on eBay
OldLifeguard-00@reddit
Ok. You win.
FlyingTerrier@reddit
Working nights I would page through to the end of some categories just looking. And it didn’t take that long!
OldLifeguard-00@reddit
Napster really took off like 2001-2003 on college campuses. I graduated undergrad in 1998. The college kids at the time really took Napster mainstream …
falcon_spec@reddit
When I started selling on eBay, I didn’t have a digital camera until much later, but I had a VHS camcorder and my desktop had rca plugs. I used to take a two second video of the item and then print screen a frame of the video to get an image to post with the item description. It was the Wild West of technology.
OldLifeguard-00@reddit
It’s funny, we accepted all of this because there was no alternative… and we were cutting edge nerds back then
meltonr1625@reddit
I bought non working Nokia phones in lots of 10 to 15 units, swapped layers until I got working phones and resold them on eBay. Cell carriers started refusing to swap service using the esn number because they wanted people to abandon tdma for gsm and it put me out of business
Stubborn_Strawberry@reddit
I bought my house (c. 1910) in 2006. eBay was the place to go for decorating. I bought vintage light fixtures and original art pieces off eBay. Some were set prices and others I had to bid on. I live in Canada and bought some items from Europe. I didn't encounter one scam or rip-off.
I haven't done eBay in years, though. I wonder if it's now a big cesspool?
metropolitandeluxe@reddit
I buy lots of stuff off Ebay for my circa 1900 house. It's all still there.
strugglinfool@reddit
I buy motorcycle parts for out of production bikes. I think it's the clientele. In 25ish, I've never been scammed.
Jinglemoon@reddit
Ebay is still pretty good for unique second hand items from small sellers. I also like it for buying and selling small electrical items second hand. It’s imho better than Amazon for a lot of new stuff because it has a much better more useful search algorithm. Marketplace beats it for things like second hand furniture though. Ebay is best for smaller items that can be mailed. I like the guarantees that buyers and sellers are offered by the ebay platform, it’s worth the fees to avoid scammers.
RedditSkippy@reddit
I’ve read that a lot of new merchandise sold on eBay is stolen.
CrankyDoo@reddit
I make purchases on there about 2 or 3 times a year. Some of them are even of moderate value (>$100). I have yet to encounter a single scam seller. I do, however, look at their seller rating before I purchase. I don’t purchase from new accounts or accounts with a lot of negative feedback.
belai437@reddit
My father in law had a brick and mortar sports card & memorabilia store for years, he started ebay in 1999. Did his first sale, the buyer left neg feedback saying the box he opened had no valuable cards in it. My FIL messaged him and asked how he's supposed to be responsible for the contents of a box that was shrinkwrapped at the factory. The guy wrote back "this is ebay... not your mom & pop store."
Candy_Calverium@reddit
In maybe 2001-2 there was a message board called DisturbingAuctions that was focused only on ebay items. I had so many laughs and wtfs from it. I miss it sometimes.
AZPeakBagger@reddit
I manage accounts for a fulfillment center and our eBay account is what always amazes me. Our technology partner has an app that can assess the value of an item after taking a few pictures. We take a handful of pictures, upload them and within a minute or two a price is assigned and it's been posted on eBay. In the background it tells us what shelf in the warehouse to put it on so that we can retrieve it quickly when the item sells. Takes at best 3-4 minutes to process each item once we grab it off a pallet.
bhbattjer@reddit
Optoro or a different platform?
AZPeakBagger@reddit
It's a proprietary program.
Meatloaf_Mondai@reddit
Joined ebay in 98 as well as joining Yahoo auctions. I wish they would bring back Dutch auctions. Those were fun.
bornincali65@reddit
The first time I tried EBay I lost a bid. Never tried it again. This was back in 98 or 99.
Nisi-Marie@reddit
The leaps in technology are mind blowing - and we take a lot of it for granted as we are experiencing it in real time.
I spent about 8 years in prison. Prior, I was a sophomore engineer. So I breathe technology, was early adopter of PalmPilots and blackberries, was super comfortable from a technology point.
When I got out in 2019, I had to ask my minimum wage teenage coworkers to walk me through all of the social media platforms and explain why I needed them. The whole pay my phone revolution happened while I was gone. The entire gig economy really took off during that time.
When I was first arrested, I had recently gotten an iPhone 4s, the first one with Siri. I had some apps, but nothing crazy.
Coming out, having to navigate all the different apps and understanding which ones were important was a huge curve. Everything I knew about how to find a job had changed.
Even little things like how I can take a picture and copy the text right off of a picture to paste somewhere else. All of those quality of life improvements. Every day I’m constantly delighted by little ways that all of these advances have made life easier.
Bex-HZ@reddit
Honestly I miss mp3 players. I would always decorate mine. My friend got the first iPOD Touch and I was enchanted with games it could play.
No_Bake_3627@reddit
I always sent money orders so I would get the item quicker.
hcoverlambda@reddit
Does anyone remember half.com?? eBay bought them in 2000 and they sold fixed price items instead of auction. Used to buy a lot of books off there.
Bex-HZ@reddit
I LOVED half.com! It did wonders for my book hoard.
NeverEatDawnSoap@reddit
That’s where I first started selling on the internet! I sold books, and because there were no photos (at least I don’t remember any), I was always very careful to write super detailed descriptions. Selling on eBay nowadays is a lot easier in that regard. I just take a photo of the questionable area and say “see photo” in the description.
Dry_Ordinary_471@reddit
Seller since 2000 here. In I don't think people mentioned how you had to pay a third party for photo hosting if you wanted more than one picture.The pictures would be embedded in the description. On top of that, I learned to code so that I could make my description look fancy with different backgrounds and font to highlight the pictures . I was a successful seller back then and I think it was because I always had 10 or 20 pictures of my item compared to the one that eBay allowed you. And as a Canadian, I accepted cheque, money order or Canadian Tire money. IYKYK. I'd then sort through and sell the rarer CT bills for more profit. Oh, back in 2009 or 2010 I got paid $9 in crypto for a knitting pattern. Couldn't figure out how to put it in a wallet so never ended up redeeming it.
misschris826@reddit
I did the same thing! There was a book called "Ebay for Dummies" where I learned the code, and spent lots of time making one pretty picture with lots of pictures and descriptions. Did very well selling my kids' clothes when they grew out of them, and reselling antiques.
SunflowerIslandQueen@reddit
I completely forgot that was a thing!
OldLifeguard-00@reddit
Canadian Tire money?! 🤣
-zAhn@reddit
Joined eBay in 2001. It must have gotten more advanced by then. The the things I miss about it was the ability to truly snipe bids last second, no auto bidding that drove the price up higher when you’d attempt a snipe, and the listings were not inundated with commercial sellers and their mass produced Chinese garbage.
RedditSkippy@reddit
I think my eBay account might be my oldest online account—1998. Even my Yahoo! email account is a few years younger.
sageberrytree@reddit
I told my kids that the beanie baby craze made ebay successful and they looked at me like I was an alien!
We had a digital camera so I didn't have to use film! I mostly was a purchaser on ebay in the early days. In 02 I bought a beautiful fur coat for $200. I was so nervous about it not coming!
Historical_Bath_9854@reddit
I'm so glad I didn't get into that, though I do have a few that mean something to me.
OldLifeguard-00@reddit
I joined June 2000 and I don’t exactly remember developing photos to post.
jbell1974@reddit
Man screw the check I only accepted postal money orders haha… that was quite the ride back then… good news was it made it a lot harder to make bad, impulsive decisions… 😬
Juanfartez@reddit
eBay satnds for East Bay where it was founded.
wassykl@reddit
I've learned that it stands for Echo Bay but echobay.com was taken, so they went with eBay. Also Silicon Valley is in the South Bay, not the East Bay.
Juanfartez@reddit
Oh wow you're right. All these years I've always heard it was because East bay. But San Jose and all is in the south part. Funny how urban legends can influence the actual truth.
BigFatGramps@reddit
East Bay
You're referring to the San Francisco East Bay Area, that later assumed the name Silicone Valley?
PrehistoricSquirrel@reddit
TIL
minder125@reddit
I remember a pal of mine had a whole set up at his comic book store. Just to do it all. And he would get pissed at buyers who would complain at shipping costs. Claiming he was over charging. He was always like don't they ever look at the postage cost on the packages.
AmphibianFragrant453@reddit
The first thing I tried to sell was Bonnaroo tickets in the early 00s. The buyer flaked and it was too late to relist - bc we only had paper tickets and listing for any amount of days and then snail mail would’ve put me past the event date.
AmphibianFragrant453@reddit
Just checked - member since 6/9/2002. Headliners: Ben Harper, String Cheese Incident, Trey Anastasio Band, Widespread Panic. Also there and wish I really would’ve seen - Jurassic 5. 🥺
JazzyBisonOU812@reddit
Yup. I joined eBay in 1998 and it was that way for me.
watchwatertilitboils@reddit
I used to send cash to strangers in Europe and never once got ripped off
GettingOffTheCrazy@reddit
My first purchase in 1997 was a violin.
Infinisteve@reddit
Just checked. I joined in 1998.
First thing I sold was a Palm Pilot. It used to be lawless. I bought clenbuterol and d-bol. People would sell homemade porn and associated used and unwashed items. Sometimes you'd find street drugs, but eBay would pull those sales if they found them.
la_winky@reddit
The kids will never understand the experience of dial up internet.
Don’t even get me started on Napster. You’d start the download and pray that you’d get your song by morning.
ejly@reddit
I remember once I set out to recreate a mix tape by downloading tracks to a playlist. It took me over a week to locate valid tracks and successfully complete each download.
michael41973@reddit
I was too. Never used checks, always got money orders. Was never scammed and always received the items I bought. Didn’t start selling until the early 2000’s and that was different too.
filtersweep@reddit
My first purchase was fake Nike sunglasses. What a disappointment
wjpell@reddit
I remember when eBay was something something.com/ebay. As I recall, they competed with haggle.com.
noidios@reddit
It was either www.auctionweb.com/ebay or www.aw.com/ebay
CryptographerOk3814@reddit
Joined 2001.
I remember this whole exact process.
DJErikD@reddit
My first eBay purchases in 1998 were a silk marijuana plant and a hand-painted kitschy bottle that’d be found today on Etsy.
It was wild when it was just weirdos and not all commercialized like today.
Ok-Lingonberry-8261@reddit
I didn't join eBay until I needed an obscure reference book for my dissertation, that would have been the mind '00s...
2_Bagel_Dog@reddit
My Ebay history only goes back to 2017, but feedback goes back much farther - I think my alter ego must have been an active early Ebayer since I can't figure out what some of the sales might actually be?
foxyfree@reddit
What is the process now?
carlivar@reddit
Money orders, not checks.
Scoobysnax1976@reddit
I used to buy DVDs and comics and it was easier to send cash. The cost of a money order wasn’t worth it for a $15 item.
depthchargethel@reddit
I sold handmade jewelry on eBay back then and would often get an envelope of cash as payment, money orders too. We had a lot more trust in people.
Daliguana@reddit
what’s a yoot
Juanfartez@reddit
unloosedcoin@reddit
Ute?
skilly2669@reddit
How much did you get for the moose?
rogun64@reddit
Packing items was a chore also. The USPS used to have strict rules on how things could be packaged, but they've loosened up over the years. I used to dread dropping packages off at the post office, because they'd find a problem every 3rd time I'd do it.
sunshine-and-kittens@reddit
In my day, you weren’t required to even have a photo in your listing. It was the Wild West back then!
Item not as described? eBay’s stance: not our problem.
Didn’t receive payment via snail mail? eBay’s stance: not our problem.
Seller cashed check (lol) but item never received? eBay’s stance: not our problem.
“We are just a venue” was their reply to pretty much every complaint. 🤪
calmneil@reddit
I luv ebay early years until now, i hate paypal then and now.
nibor@reddit
I've been a member since 2002 and I'm based in the UK. I had a digital camera by then.
earinsound@reddit
got some amazing deals in the 90s.
blackpony04@reddit
In 2000 I bought a 1965 Mustang Fastback off a seller in Texas (I lived in Illinois) without any vetting whatsoever, just the listing photos and the word of the seller. Totally worked out incredibly and being scammed wasn't a concern.
Would I do it now? Nope.
stlmatt@reddit
“The whole process took a couple of weeks at best. Hard to believe how far things have come in just 30 years.”
Took 30 years to shave off a week lol.
stlmatt@reddit
Money orders were always the go to. I never wrote or accepted checks.