Are there any brands that are 100% fire safe?

Posted by Price-x-Field@reddit | ebikes | View on Reddit | 18 comments

Hello all, looking for a fire safe, hybrid bike for someone 6 foot. Here are the things I want:

Shimano brakes and gears

Suspension

Throttle

Comfortable

Not too concerned about the speed and range, as I mainly want to use this for exercise. I just want the electric aspect for going up tougher hills and getting home when I’m tired.

Don’t really have a set budget, but I don’t wanna spend too much. I’m open to everything but it must be 100% safe to bit catch on fire.

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Inciteful_Analysis@reddit

You are 100% abusing how probability works.

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12VHPWRHELL@reddit

This is literally impossible, all lithium batteries carry a fire risk. As well as most high power electronics

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Background_Gur6691@reddit

Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) batteries are incombustible

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cj191@reddit

They are also rarely used in smaller ebikes because of the lower energy density compared to lithium ion. They are more common in electric mopeds/motorcycles where space is not as big a factor.

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Price-x-Field@reddit (OP)

Damn. I really want one but I am so worried it will burn down while I’m not home

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Revolutionary-Half-3@reddit

There's a world of difference between sketchy batteries made from used cells, and properly constructed packs with trustworthy cells from the likes of Samsung and other reliable manufacturers.

A proper BMS with cell level monitoring instead of a balance circuit with no BMS functions.

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cj191@reddit

OP did qualify his question as "100% fire safe." We are just answering the question accurately.

Now if his question was "which batteries/ebikes are least likely to burst into flames?" then yeah. Of course samsung batteries, or any UL certified pack is the way to go.

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Well, unless you're using it in some unfathomably stupid way, if the battery is UL certified you're probably good. Most ebike fires are caused by cheap ones with sketchy batteries. The chance of it happening really is minuscule.

And batteries generally don't simply catch fire or explode, if you're not charging or using it, the chance is even less. The real danger with leaving ebike batteries unattended is them slowly degrading when not charged, but this is mostly mitigated by charging them to like 80 percent before you put them in storage.

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Price-x-Field@reddit (OP)

Okay well, do you have any bike recommendations.

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12VHPWRHELL@reddit

Lectric is the cheapest brand worth considering, their bikes are solid and offer great power and range for the money,

Velotric and Aventon are pricer but offer better features and build quality, velotric especially seems to have really great IPX ratings.

I'd also advise checking out the new Segway Muxi, it's got the coolest features I've ever seen on an ebike, great power, and it's only 1700 bucks.

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Gold_Area5109@reddit

Privet range is fairly important there... and if you know that you could also just search the sub it's a fairly common ask

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hike2climb@reddit

Just buy name brand. Go to a bike shop. Aventon is the floor price for something decent. The big 4 bike brands go up from there, specialized, trek, cannondale, giant.

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Aww8@reddit

there is no 100% but 99.95% is not that hard to find.

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Proxy345@reddit

None, even your phone isn't safe. I had one phone that turned into a spicy pillow and I buried that thing in the backyard.

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Tasty-Fox9030@reddit

If you want to either search ebay or go back in time, you might be able to find an ebike that uses a sealed lead acid (car) battery. Those are not nearly as flammable as a lithium battery, and as a side bonus will please most redditors on this subreddit as they are slow like a conventional bike and this is what they love.

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FantasticSalt9@reddit

In reality, however, any UL listed battery and total system has a very low risk if any at all. The UL designation indicates there are multiple safety systems built into the product to mitigate this exact issue. Most e-bike brands such as Velotric, Aventon, Urtopia all meet this standard and each of them has at least one model that ticks all your boxes

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cj191@reddit

Yeah. The ones with no batteries. Even the phone/laptop you are using to post this isn't 100% fire safe because it has batteries.