Smyth's Pickup Truck Conversion Kit Turns The Chrysler 300 Into an All-American Ute

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kstetter@reddit (OP)

Putting the European 300's diesel engine in this would make it the best pickup in America

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Solon_City_Schools@reddit

You might be the first person to ever explicitly ask for that engine in something. Those things are terrible in the trucks they did come in.

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kstetter@reddit (OP)

All pickup trucks are better with diesels, even diesels worse than their gas engines

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scrappybasket@reddit

That’s the silliest take I’ve seen in a while

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kstetter@reddit (OP)

Pickup trucks should be diesel, cost savings and torque

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scrappybasket@reddit

Here are a couple examples for you. 6.2 Detroit diesel has 240lb-ft, 7.3 IDI has 338lb-ft.

5.7 Hemi, 5.0 coyote, 6.2 LS all have more torque. Gas is cheaper, replacement parts are cheaper. Better fuel economy when comparing these engines

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Nemo123161@reddit

Those are the dumbest diesel examples you possibly could have picked

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LordofSpheres@reddit

Those are the perfect examples to show that diesels are not universally better than gassers.

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Not really. For starters they're all 30 year old engines being compared to more modern engines, secondly if it's low end grunt you want they are still superior because peak torque on both the 6.2 and 7.3 diesels come on at less than half the RPM of any of the other engines listed.

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LordofSpheres@reddit

Cost savings are miniscule when maintenance is vastly more expensive and the diesel adds a $10-13k upcharge. On fuel costs alone, a diesel would have to get 25% better gas mileage for me to be breaking even versus my gassers. They just aren't. Nevermind triple the cost for every oil change, the added cost of DEF, the fuel filters, the extra cost of maintenance parts... Injectors for my gasser cost $400 to do a full set. That's what a single injector for the diesel would cost. One.

Torque is a problem best solved by gearboxes. Power is what matters for performance of all sorts, and gassers do just fine there.

I am jealous of modern diesels for their exhaust braking setups. That's the only real advantage that I think is worth the tradeoffs.

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scrappybasket@reddit

I’ll bite. So you’d rather have the 6.2 Detroit diesel over the 6.4 Hemi, 6.2 LS, and 5.0 Coyote?

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kstetter@reddit (OP)

In a pickup truck? yes. In a sedan I would rather a cummins or a 5.0

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scrappybasket@reddit

Okay let’s compare apples to apples then. Would you rather have the 3.0 eco diesel in a ram 1500 or a 5.7 Hemi in a ram 1500?

My follow up question would be, have actually towed any significant weight with both?

Because I have, I tow boats for a living at a marina and I’d pick the 5.7 all day. In fact all 3 of the people I know that owned a 3.0 eco diesel traded theirs in for a 5.7 within 2 years for the same reason

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HeavyCanuck@reddit

Who wouldn't want a heavier, more expensive engine? That runs on more expensive fuel? And has to buy DEF on top of that fuel? DEF that goes into unreliable emissions systems that break frequently?

I'll suffer with gas, thanks.

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