Saw this at the park today in Coppell and was curious if anyone can identify it or knows anything about it. Is it venomous? It didn’t seem aggressive, but I wanted to learn more.
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wellthatseemslikebs@reddit
Water moccasin. Not friend
I_like_race_cars@reddit
Not sure its a moccasin since op said it wasn't aggressive....and moccasins are mean as hell.
westex74@reddit
They are absolutely not. LOL. They’ll only strike if you literally step on them.
txman91@reddit
Hey, I’ve seen Lonesome Dove - don’t gaslight me.
/s because it’s 2026…
dtor84@reddit
Or swim by them.
Will_X_Intent@reddit
Swam by tons as a kid. Had them touch me as they swam by. I once swam in a cove that had dozens of them. Kinda freaky.
TeraByteOfficial@reddit
why are you swimming with them??
KingOfNothing_85@reddit
If you're in a lake or pond or river you are going to have them near. Same for copperheads in wooded areas. They just don't care unless they feel threatened by you.
kz750@reddit
A friend’s dog got bit by one at White Rock Lake. It was awful.
ea88_alwaysdiscin@reddit
I almost stepped on a copperhead a few years ago playing a wooded disc golf round. I looked down at the path right before setting my foot down and that snake was coiled up and 2 seconds away from striking. That shit was terrifying.
IdolCowboy@reddit
I tripped over a bug one that was cooked up by the creek. It just looked up, then went back to sleep.
ismiseanpuca@reddit
NGL but 47 years of wearing the costume and character of a man who's got answers, It'd all be gone in a panicked second skip running flappy hands screaming falsetto man who collects himself 200 yrds away with a full body shudder
Old_Entertainment234@reddit
Beaver or coyote?
natiusj@reddit
You should ask this before every date.
notadamnprincess@reddit
I accidentally launched one into my leg when I tipped back the recycling bin and didn’t see him. Turns out they don’t like that and getting bitten seriously hurts for a long time.
Randusnuder@reddit
Heritage?
TeraByteOfficial@reddit
near and snake infested waters as this person was describing is two separate things
Plucked_Dove@reddit
Maybe the most literal touch grass moment I’ve seen on reddit.
Substantial_Plant314@reddit
Easiest way to tell for me is the head. Does he have a round snot or pointed? This one is pointed he is venomus
You_DontKnowMyLife@reddit
The eyes are a better way to tell. "Slit" eyes is venomous whereas round eyes (other than coral snake) are non venomous. Cottonmouth snakes are also short and stubby and have more of a block shaped head.
notadamnprincess@reddit
Myth on the eyes. Cottonmouths usually have a defined brow ridge and white stripe in that area, and do not have labial banding (vertical stripes at their mouths) which is the easiest way to tell them apart from water snakes.
Substantial_Plant314@reddit
I don't know about you but I'm not getting close enough to gaze lovingly in to its eyes
texasusa@reddit
Is this true for most snakes ? Point = venomous?
cottonmouth_@reddit
This is true for pit vipers which accounts for all venomous snakes in the us but the coral snake which is very reclusive and rare to be bitten by. I worked with snakes back in the day and we had to be extremely careful with our coral snake specimen bc there was hardly any antivenom available due to low need iirc. Tldr decent rule for identifying venomous snakes in the states, abroad different rules apply
Cool_Intention_7807@reddit
Coral snakes are terrifying. As a young man in the navy back in the 60s my dad watched a fellow sailor die after being bitten while cleaning out a water intake line.
Substantial_Plant314@reddit
Very true, since they mention the city I assumed US. And since the US only has pit vipers this is the easiest way for me to know with just a glance. Also with a coral they are easy to identify if red touches black you're ok jack, if red touches yellow you're a dead fellow.
serpenthusiast@reddit
It's a gross oversimplification, anyone who tries to tell you that harmless and significantly venomous species can be told by this one simple trick, don't know a thing.
You_DontKnowMyLife@reddit
No
TeraByteOfficial@reddit
idc man
McGuirk808@reddit
Normally they're a fun surprise.
IamtheDoc1@reddit
It’s called Outside™️, you should check it out sometime.
TeraByteOfficial@reddit
nah
Random-Spark@reddit
Probably because they worked for a politician in grapevine.
mantisboxer@reddit
Live outside man
TeraByteOfficial@reddit
I live inside my home man
Crease_Greaser@reddit
Freaky how
Substantial_Farm1118@reddit
Facts. Used to swim in the lake as a kid with my siblings and they’d swim right by us without any harm. They’re chill most of the time.
xsil@reddit
Yea dude, my wife literally brushed her ankle against a copperhead last month and it didn't bite. Granted it was dark? idk if that changes anything lol but they're generally pretty chill where I live, and we have lots of them.
JMFPZL@reddit
They’ve chased me down river banks. They are territorial. Is 100% a cottonmouth/ Water Moccasin
westex74@reddit
No they didn’t.
JMFPZL@reddit
They did. My dad and I both LOL We used to go fishing every weekend down here in Texas. They’ve chased us while we’re on foot on the bank and also in a canoe. I have no reason to make this shit up on a dumbass Reddit.
fionageck@reddit
Cottonmouths don’t chase humans, they have no reason to. Anything perceived as ‘chasing’ is a misinterpretation of their behaviour. Sometimes it’s simply a matter of you being between the snake and its escape route; all you need to do is sidestep and they’ll continue past you. They may approach a canoe in the water but that’s due to them seeing it as something they can potentially rest on (think logs and other debris floating in the water) without realizing there are scary humans on board.
Slide_Locked@reddit
I’ve seen it myself firsthand
TexacoRodeoClown@reddit
I watched a water moccasin swim fast as fuck right at my little sister in the brazos river. Straight towards here. Believe it or not , different people have different experiences with wild animals. Just cus you’ve seen them be chill don’t mean they always are
fionageck@reddit
Cottonmouths don’t chase humans, they have no reason to. Anything perceived as ‘chasing’ is a misinterpretation of their behaviour. A couple likely explanations for what you saw are a) the snake was simply trying to get past your sister and she just happened to be in the way, or b) the snake mistook your sister for something it could potentially rest on (think a floating log).
TheRamblerJohnson@reddit
They want to be left alone.
TomeThugNHarmony4664@reddit
Nope. I have experienced their meanness waaaaaaaay too up close and personal.
I hates them, and I generally am cool with sneks.
tisabusyb@reddit
I’m from East Texas and water moccasins/cotton mouths will hunt you down and gut you like a fish. They are the bitches of the snake world. If it’s short, thick and black, don’t go near it.
Slide_Locked@reddit
Damn truth. Small stream by my house as a 10-11 year old in the early eighties; one those fuckers chased my ass. I remember it well to this day
Mnudge@reddit
Been watching too much Lonesome Dove.
They tend to be scaredy snakes and will try to get away unless you try to grab them or step on them .
sisterfunkhaus@reddit
I think of Lonesome Dove everytime someone mentions a water moccasin. Every time.
MagicWishMonkey@reddit
Unrelated to this thread, but the book is exxceptionally good. I'm not really a fan of westerns/cowboy stuff but that book got its hooks into me hard. It's very very good.
sisterfunkhaus@reddit
Me too. I read it for an American Literature class and it's my favorite book. The mini-series ended up being good too. Shockingly so.
MagicWishMonkey@reddit
I need to watch the mini series at some point, I've never seen it.
It's kind of funny that I definitely remember watching "the scene" when the show first aired, but I must have wandered into the room while my grandparents were watching it because it was the only part of the series that I've watched and it scared the crap out of me.
cluelessinlove753@reddit
It is 100% and northern cottonmouth Aka water moccasin
They are not aggressive. They can certainly be defensive if they feel threatened or cornered.
ElderFlour@reddit
I once had one on my window sill looking in my office window. I took a picture and sent it to my husband. He responded, “DON’T OPEN THE WINDOW.” Dude said like a handful of words a year. They always made me laugh. I miss him. Even snakes make me nostalgic.
cluelessinlove753@reddit
World class dad joke.
Hosedragger5@reddit
Yea, that’s made up.
Prestigious-Bike-593@reddit
That's a myth
kgvc7@reddit
Nah they’re not
nazutul@reddit
If i could downvote this twice, i would
wellthatseemslikebs@reddit
Diamond back water snakes are easy to spot because they have vertical lines drawing from their mouths. That one is a spicy boy
yeahright17@reddit
Pretty sure that's just a hognose. Eyes are too round to be a cottonmouth. Also, cottonmouths don't lift their head/neck like a cobra like this thing is doing. Hognoses do.
This_Daydreamer_@reddit
Cottonmouths hold their heads up like this all the time
calste@reddit
Then from this posture they open their mouth to show off their bright white inner cheeks. It's literally how they got their name.
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
Sorry, I think I took your comment the wrong way before. This thread has primed me to interpret everything as a disagreement, but I think you were just adding on to what Daydreamer said.
calste@reddit
Yeah I was agreeing! I can understand, lots of bad info going around. Whatever you said before, I didn't see it though.
BTW, thanks for everything yall do over at r/whatsthissnake it's become my favorite subreddit.
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
It was just something that could've sounded a little curt like "Cottonmouths frequently sit like this with their mouths closed."
My mind had essentially translated your comment to "But when cottonmouths have their head up, their mouth is open. This one's mouth is closed, so it's not a cottonmouth, dummy." -- totally my bad. Nothing you said suggests an underlying tone like that. This thread has just about done me in, and I think I'm about done with Reddit for tonight. 😂
And I love hearing that you enjoy /r/WhatsThisSnake. :) It's a wonderful place. Much better than this sub for snake IDs, lol
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
They frequently sit like this with their mouths closed.
fionageck@reddit
The other person who responded to you is correct, this is a cottonmouth. Plenty of snake species will raise their head to get a better look of their surroundings. It’s called ‘scoping’. Also, not sure what you mean by “eyes are too round”. Are you talking about the pupils?
shrike1978@reddit
!pupils
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
Pupil shape should not be used in determining the presence of medically significant venom. Not only are there many venomous elapids with round pupils, there are many harmless snakes with slit pupils, such as Hypsiglena sp. Nightsnakes, Leptodeira sp. Cat-eyed Snakes, and even some common pet species such as Ball Pythons.
Furthermore, when eyes with slit pupils are dilated by low light or a stress response, the pupils will be round. As an example, while Copperheads have slit pupils, when dilated the pupils will appear round.
Slit pupils are associated primarily with nocturnal behavior in animals, as they offer sensitivity to see well in low light while providing the ability to block out most light during the day that would otherwise overwhelm highly sensitive receptors. Slit pupils may protect from high UV in eyes that lack UV filters in the lens. These functions are decoupled from the use of venom in prey acquisition and are present in many harmless species.
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matt41gb@reddit
You would be terribly wrong. This is 100% a cottonmouth.
calste@reddit
Friend. But long distance friend.
No_Hat7946@reddit
No water. No moccasins in sight.
Recent_Pack_1585@reddit
Lonesome Dove
No_Grand7184@reddit
I remember that Steve Irwin did a show where he explored American animals and he said that the water moccasin was one snake that he would not handle because they have such a nasty disposition and will chase you. The crocodile hunter said this!
PM_ME_YUR_S3CRETS@reddit
Its true. They hate Australians.
notadamnprincess@reddit
Not a water moccasin/cottonmouth. It’s a water snake but I don’t know whether it’s a plain bellied or common.
ChicagoRay312@reddit
If not friend, why definitely not friend shaped?
fedroxx@reddit
That there is a danger noodle.
kgvc7@reddit
I don’t think so
MikeyThaKid@reddit
That there is a Snake.
Necessary_Switch_879@reddit
Davidson?
Brawn-Red-SR@reddit
As in Corby?
Necessary_Switch_879@reddit
It damn sure is Bob
LockhartTx2002@reddit
Did he play for the packers?
jdboone42@reddit
_pterodactyl laugh_
Makombi@reddit
Way to go snake
Necessary_Switch_879@reddit
That slut that I married
FourMountainLions@reddit
That damn snake is looking at the cameraman like
“You cool?” 🐍
blackop@reddit
Also known as a danger noodle.
RadWaste505@reddit
Or Nope Rope
Necessary_Switch_879@reddit
Or poison rope
RumHamDiary@reddit
Definitely not a trouser snake
Necessary_Switch_879@reddit
That's right Frank
RumHamDiary@reddit
Mantis Toboggan MD
funkyrequiem@reddit
Rum Ham!!!
No_Pilot_9103@reddit
Or Killy String
Lightzephyrx@reddit
As my fiancée said recently, a No No Noodle
854490@reddit
Heh, heh
DuctTape5119@reddit
Murder spagurter
Texan2020katza@reddit
This. This right here is why I love Reddit.
Hermit-The-Crab33@reddit
Looks friendly, tbh. Looks at that little curious face. Definitely try to give it a handshake
spoodlat@reddit
It needs a hat. Try putting a hat on it.
MephistoHamProducts@reddit
This is why I carry a wide variety of 3D printed, jaunty chapeaus...
bpmillet@reddit
Mmmm, hard to say really
IAmSixNine@reddit
Pretty sure its a worm on steroids. Snake is my 2nd guess though.
James-the-Bond-one@reddit
We need a banana for scale.
_L-U_C_I-D_@reddit
👁️👄👁️ oh
rob2722@reddit
That’s solid snake
cwsully_19@reddit
Only one way to find out..
Blatti@reddit
I believe that’s a southwestern hell nah
mbrace256@reddit
Yall, it’s a rat snake. Cheel.
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
It's Agkistrodon piscivorus
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
Northern Cottonmouths Agkistrodon piscivorus are one of two recognized species of large (76-114 cm record 188 cm) semi-aquatic pitvipers in eastern North America. Florida has a closely related but distinct species, the Florida cottonmouth Agkistrodon conanti.
Cottonmouths are venomous, and are therefore dangerous if approached closely or handled. They are not generally aggressive and will most likely flee any confrontation if given a chance to retreat. Some may bluff charge or boldly move towards humans to get out of a cornered situation, but have never been recorded chasing people.
Northern Cottonmouths are dark, possibly faintly patterned snakes (except as juveniles), best known for their defensive posture with a gaping, white lined mouth. They are also distinguishable from most watersnakes by their sharp brow ridges and dark stripe over the eyes.
The specific epithet "piscivorus" describes the one of the prey species of the cottonmouth - fish. The cottonmouth is also fond of frogs, mammals and other snakes. Although it may be commonly seen in lakes and ponds frequented by humans, few fatalities are recorded as a result of bites by cottonmouths.
Comparison of juvenile vs adult cottonmouth.
Species Complex Map | Relevant/Recent Phylogeography
The Agkistrodon piscivorus species complex has been delimited using modern molecular methods and two species with no subspecies are recognized. There is a zone of admixture between the two cottonmouth species where they overlap around panhandle Florida.
This short account was prepared by /u/unknown_name and edited by /u/Phylogenizer.
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Consistent_Disk1051@reddit
It's a coppell head
Squidssential@reddit
Damn you. 10/10.
dogepope@reddit
bump this to the top
Famous-Performer6665@reddit
It is definitely a cottonmouth. It's most likely a western cottonmouth (Agkistrodon piscivorus leucostoma) and yes, it is venomous. It is not aggressive. Most studies indicate that a cottonmouth is extremely unlikely strike when it is not stepped on or picked up.
They are generalist carnivores, eating fish, frogs, birds, and rodents. They are good swimmers. Juviniles have lighter pigment (often light brown with a regular pattern of dark spots). Local natural predators of cottonmouths include raptors (hawks, etc) and kingsnakes.
Candid-Brother-6845@reddit
That explains them being in Coppell.
Soviet-Bloc-Party@reddit
Underrated comment of the week
JJones214@reddit
Nah. But I would’ve let him have the whole sidewalk… the whole park actually. ✌🏾
MeesterBoobear@reddit
It’s a water snake. You can tell because there’s no venom gland over the eye, and it has big round eyes like a cartoon. Water moccasins carry their venom over their eyes, have a different nose, vertical pupils, and in general look like they have come from the depths of hell and are here to eat you.
Dark_l0rd2@reddit
Pupil dilation is a thing. The flat head with ridges over the eye, lack of labial barring, and the overall coloration and patterning all point towards cottonmouth. Cottons have beefy heads, so the presence of venom glands is not always noticeable, especially at weird angles.
Here's a copperhead with "round" eyes
serpenthusiast@reddit
you're wrong
MeesterBoobear@reddit
Google banded water snake and then change your username
shrike1978@reddit
This is the most cottonmouthy cottonmouth that ever cottonmouthed. It's not even a difficult or ambiguous one.
MeesterBoobear@reddit
Except it doesn’t have a single distinct cottonmouth feature.
It’s okay. My mom would also call it a cottonmouth. She thought almost every snake was an either a cottonmouth or rattlesnake.
shrike1978@reddit
You can just admit that your shit and this and stop trying to save face. You can literally see the cottonmouth pattern clearly in the second photo.
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This_Daydreamer_@reddit
Read the response to !cottonwater and try that again
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
There are a few things that can help differentiate between cottonmouths (A. piscivorus, A. conanti) and harmless water snakes (Nerodia spp.) once you learn to recognize them properly. It's important to try to apply as many keys as possible; the more of these characteristics you can accurately identify, the more reliable your ID will be. Underlined text links to pictures to help illustrate the keys.
Cottonmouths have a prominent, angular ridge along the top of the head, starting around the supraocular scale (directly above the eye) and running forward toward the snout (side view, front view). This ridge protrudes outward, partially overhanging the eye like a brow, and gives the snake an annoyed or grumpy looking appearance. This also partially obscures the eyes when viewed from above. In water snakes, the supraocular scale does not overhang the eye, giving the animal a 'derpy' appearance from the side or head on, and allows you to see most of the eye from above.
Cottonmouths have white or cream colored horizontal stripes or lines that run from below the eye toward the corner of the mouth, and often another that runs from behind the top of the eye toward the point of the jaw. Water snakes do not.
Water snakes usually have dark, vertical bars along the edges of their labial scales. Cottonmouths do not.
Cottonmouths and water snakes both darken with age, and the pattern is often obscured by the time they reach adulthood. When the dorsolateral pattern IS visible, cottonmouths have bands that are usually wider at the bottom than on top; like pyramids in side view, or hourglasses from above. In some individuals, the bands might be broken or incomplete, so this is not 100% diagnostic, but is still useful when used in conjunction with the other keys. Water snakes exhibit a wide variety of patterns; most species aren't banded at all, and the ones that are banded have bands that are wider at the top, like upside down triangles.
Adult cottonmouths often have a noticeable dorsal ridge along the vertebrae. This gives the body a triangular appearance in cross-section, which is especially noticeable in underweight or dehydrated animals, or when they initiate a defensive display. Water snakes, by contrast, are more cylindrical in cross-section.
Baby cottonmouths are born with yellow or greenish tail tips (used to lure small prey) that fade as they age. Young water snakes do not have these (baby N. sipedon, baby N. rhombifer for comparison).
Adult water snakes are fairly heavy-bodied, but cottonmouths of similar length tend to be significantly stouter. /n/n There are also some notable behavioral differences. Water snakes often bask in branches and bushes overhanging water; this is uncommon in cottonmouths. It is also true that water snakes often swim with the body partially submerged, while cottonmouths usually swim with the head held high and much of the body above the water line, but you can't rely on this characteristic alone; each are fully capable of swimming the other way and sometimes do so. Water snakes are more likely than cottonmouths to dive underwater to escape danger. When approached, water snakes are more likely to rapidly flee, whereas cottonmouths are more likely to slowly crawl away or simply stay still and hope not to be noticed. If approached closely or cornered, water snakes are more likely to flatten out their heads and/or bodies to appear larger and/or strike in the general direction of the person/animal they are cornered by, hoping to create enough space to escape. Cottonmouths, on the other hand, are more likely to tilt their heads back (to a near vertical angle) and gape their mouths open, displaying the white lining of the mouth as a threat display, and vibrate their tails.
Bonus: two separate sets of cottonmouths preying upon water snakes that allow direct comparisons between similarly sized animals, plus a picture of a juvenile cottonmouth (bottom left) with a juvenile common water snake (top) and a juvenile plain-bellied water snake (bottom right).
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serpenthusiast@reddit
my guy, I id snakes pretty much every day for the past 4 years, this one isn't even difficult, it's a perfectly average Cottonmouth A. piscivorus
Banded Watersnakes in this part of their range look completely different anyway, it's called the confluens phase(former subspecies) or commonly called broad-banded watersnake, very unique looking
If you actually want to learn have a read through our !cottonwater bot reply below
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
There are a few things that can help differentiate between cottonmouths (A. piscivorus, A. conanti) and harmless water snakes (Nerodia spp.) once you learn to recognize them properly. It's important to try to apply as many keys as possible; the more of these characteristics you can accurately identify, the more reliable your ID will be. Underlined text links to pictures to help illustrate the keys.
Cottonmouths have a prominent, angular ridge along the top of the head, starting around the supraocular scale (directly above the eye) and running forward toward the snout (side view, front view). This ridge protrudes outward, partially overhanging the eye like a brow, and gives the snake an annoyed or grumpy looking appearance. This also partially obscures the eyes when viewed from above. In water snakes, the supraocular scale does not overhang the eye, giving the animal a 'derpy' appearance from the side or head on, and allows you to see most of the eye from above.
Cottonmouths have white or cream colored horizontal stripes or lines that run from below the eye toward the corner of the mouth, and often another that runs from behind the top of the eye toward the point of the jaw. Water snakes do not.
Water snakes usually have dark, vertical bars along the edges of their labial scales. Cottonmouths do not.
Cottonmouths and water snakes both darken with age, and the pattern is often obscured by the time they reach adulthood. When the dorsolateral pattern IS visible, cottonmouths have bands that are usually wider at the bottom than on top; like pyramids in side view, or hourglasses from above. In some individuals, the bands might be broken or incomplete, so this is not 100% diagnostic, but is still useful when used in conjunction with the other keys. Water snakes exhibit a wide variety of patterns; most species aren't banded at all, and the ones that are banded have bands that are wider at the top, like upside down triangles.
Adult cottonmouths often have a noticeable dorsal ridge along the vertebrae. This gives the body a triangular appearance in cross-section, which is especially noticeable in underweight or dehydrated animals, or when they initiate a defensive display. Water snakes, by contrast, are more cylindrical in cross-section.
Baby cottonmouths are born with yellow or greenish tail tips (used to lure small prey) that fade as they age. Young water snakes do not have these (baby N. sipedon, baby N. rhombifer for comparison).
Adult water snakes are fairly heavy-bodied, but cottonmouths of similar length tend to be significantly stouter. /n/n There are also some notable behavioral differences. Water snakes often bask in branches and bushes overhanging water; this is uncommon in cottonmouths. It is also true that water snakes often swim with the body partially submerged, while cottonmouths usually swim with the head held high and much of the body above the water line, but you can't rely on this characteristic alone; each are fully capable of swimming the other way and sometimes do so. Water snakes are more likely than cottonmouths to dive underwater to escape danger. When approached, water snakes are more likely to rapidly flee, whereas cottonmouths are more likely to slowly crawl away or simply stay still and hope not to be noticed. If approached closely or cornered, water snakes are more likely to flatten out their heads and/or bodies to appear larger and/or strike in the general direction of the person/animal they are cornered by, hoping to create enough space to escape. Cottonmouths, on the other hand, are more likely to tilt their heads back (to a near vertical angle) and gape their mouths open, displaying the white lining of the mouth as a threat display, and vibrate their tails.
Bonus: two separate sets of cottonmouths preying upon water snakes that allow direct comparisons between similarly sized animals, plus a picture of a juvenile cottonmouth (bottom left) with a juvenile common water snake (top) and a juvenile plain-bellied water snake (bottom right).
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Nikolai-Volkoff@reddit
Do not pet.
ez-pz-lemon@reddit
Yellow bellied water snake. Harmless.
Nosfermarki@reddit
I agree, head doesn't seem big/angular enough for a cottonmouth.
calste@reddit
Yeah, it's frustrating. But the only reason is that it's demosntrably incorrect. The head is at a bit of an odd angle on these photos, but every indicator is that it is a Cottonmouth. Facial markings, a faded bit still unmistakable pattern, body shape. It's all there. 100% Agkistrodon piscivorus
Rich_Helicopter_2128@reddit
accurate
This_Daydreamer_@reddit
No, this is definitely a cottonmouth
Phyrnosoma@reddit
no! I see plenty of Nerodia mistaken for cottonmouths but this is definitely a cotton
cluelessinlove753@reddit
100% northern cottonmouth
New_Substance_6753@reddit
a great place to put this will be iNaturalist. it will tell you what snakes these are and people will be able to correct it if it suggests the wrong thing. https://www.inaturalist.org
ALSO, DFW has one of the strongest inaturalist communities and we came 4th overall in the ENTIRE world for their nature challenge this may! https://www.citynaturechallenge.org/2026-final-results
justonemom14@reddit
I'm sorry to say I didn't participate in the recent challenge, but I do have the iNaturalist app and I love it! My mom is always asking me to ID stuff, and I'm like, you know you can download it too!
The main thing I love about it is that it's taught me the proper name for some things that I have "known" since I was a young child. But if I want to look it up on the internet, it's impossible to just look up something like "sticker bush" and get the right results. (My sticker bush was silverleaf nightshade, which my dad always called potato weed.)
New_Substance_6753@reddit
It’s such a cool tool. Not only does it identify things that Google can’t but you also get feedback from a real person who sees it later. It’s amazing
xxxJackSpeedxxx@reddit
To this redditors point, I was curious and uploaded it to iNaturalist to get the top suggestion. It looks like the cottonmouth’s have it.
Hourslikeminutes47@reddit
Is Snek
PNWShots@reddit
Native Texan snake tip:
With the exception of the coral snake, all venomous snakes native to Texas are pit vipers, and will have the easily identifiable triangular shaped head
cluelessinlove753@reddit
Really not a reliable way to ID snakes. Lots of heavy bud, snake snakes, flatten their head into a triangle to look bigger when threatened. Easy to Google dozens of pictures of harmless diamondback water snakes, or plain bellied water snakes with very triangular heads. Those two also happen to share much of their range and habitat with a cottonmouth, so they are frequently mistaken for one another. Takes a little practice, but not hard to distinguish between the markings.
Pinanims@reddit
Isnt the rule of thumb that triangular and head, most likely venomous? There are exceptions, but generally steer clear of anything with a triangular head
kamezzle13@reddit
Watersnakes will flatten their head as a defensive mechanism to appear triangular, which makes it especially confusing in this situation. The eye pupil shape can also be used as an indicator - pitvipers have slitty eyes like a cat, where as non venomous snakes have round pupils like a bug/amphibian. The problem with using the eye shape is that not only can lighting play tricks on you, but also you have to get close to the snake to get a good look.
Soggy-Bedroom-3673@reddit
The point being that you're unlikely to falsely ID a venomous snake as harmless for having a rounded head
kamezzle13@reddit
For sure, but the triangular shape head isnt a good indicator.
Pinanims@reddit
I see it as a good precaution.
Don't mess with snakes you don't know
If it's head is triangular, likely venomous.
That is NOT to say that a round head is safe, rather a triangular head is most likely unsafe.
It's like colored animals, if an animal is brightly colored it is likely poisonous or venomous, that does not mean non-colorful animals are safe.
cluelessinlove753@reddit
Seriously I’m the triangular head thing is useless
The first half of your second sentence is all the advice you need
Don’t mess with snakes. Leave them alone to do snakey things.
Pinanims@reddit
It's not useless, it's just context.
Red touches yellow, kills a fellow.
Red touched black, all good Jack.
It's also "useless" because you just shouldn't mess with snakes anyways. But having general rule that you can immediately visually identify is good for quick decision. And there's a reason it's there. MOST triangular head snakes are venomous, but there are exceptions, but an exception to a rule does not discount the rule entirely.
Similar to the "Leaves of 3, Leave it be" to avoid poison oak/Ivy. But that rule has exceptions when there are leaves of 3 that aren't poison and ones with more that are. But it's just a quick visual and mental note to help quick decisions.
It's not completely useless, but it can be encompassed in more black and white statements like "Just don't mess with any"
PS. This isn't really that deep, like you said, doing fuck with snakes. We don't have to get into it, just stating my POV
kamezzle13@reddit
I'm not arguing, I'm just saying a triangular shaped head is not a good way to tell if they are venomous or not. I spend a lot of time in nature - I don't want to get bitten by a snake whether venomous or not. Even water snakes have bacteria filled mouths with hook shaped teeth that can lead to a nasty infections.
Don't mess with snakes in general, and they will leave you alone.
calste@reddit
Like cats, snakes with slits for pupils can dilate them to a round shape. So it is very much not a reliable indicator.
There are also some mildly venomous but functionally harmless (to humans) species with slit pupils, including some Night Snakes that can be found in our area.
cluelessinlove753@reddit
No. It’s truly a terribly unreliable way to a snakes.
It’s not even one factor to consider. Pretty much all snakes will try to look bigger when threatened. One of the ways they do that is by flattening their body. For a lot of snakes, this makes their head look triangular. Water, snakes, and garter snakes end up looking very triangular.
While we’re on the subject… cat eyes are also not diagnostic. Pretty much all snakes have pupils that react to light. If you shine a bright light, most of them look like a vertical slit. In the dark, most of them look round
The rhyme for coral snakes is also junk. It works for the two species of North American, coral snake as long as they have typical patterns. But aberrant patterns are very common and often break the rhyme
Some things that are close to shortcuts. - if it has a rattle, it’s a rattlesnake. If it doesn’t have a rattle… Hard to tell. Lots of pygmy and Massasauga rattlesnakes have little/no rattle. - In North America, if it has vertical labial bars on the lower lip/jaw… It is not venomous. If it doesn’t have bars… Could be venomous or not. It also takes a little practice to understand what a labial bar is, and how it is different from, say, the chin blotches on a cotton mouth. - if it has heat sensing pits… It is a pit viper. All venomous snakes in North America are pit vipers except for coral snakes.
Low-Implement-820@reddit
Not really, like someone else said some snakes that are completely harmless to people will flatten their heads into a triangle shape when threatened too, like the hognose snake (and this snake can flatten out it's neck too and resemble a cobra, when it's harmless to people). Snakes just want to be left alone and people are giant scary predators to them, so if you leave them alone, they should you too. Like this cottonmouth here is only a danger if you mess with it or accidentally step on it, and even he may only open his mouth at you and just show you that instead of bite (but please don't test that, haha).
Best thing to do is to learn to positively ID the venemous snakes in your area or area you are visiting, and when in doubt, just leave it alone. if you have to move the snake along for some reason, spraying it with a garden hose should do the trick or you can call someone to relocate the snake for you too, there are people whose job it is to catch and relocate snakes for you.
SliverMcSilverson@reddit
Idk if I would call them harmless lol. I linked up with a random herpetology tour the other day and one guy was a graduate students catching snakes for his project. They found a diamond back that did not appreciate being handled and gave him a few bites lol. It looked painful
cluelessinlove753@reddit
In the specific context of identifying snakes, harmless has a specific meaning. It means the bite is not a medical emergency.
Harmless includes many non-venomous snakes… Except for ones that truly have a damaging bite. Google Rock Python for nightmares. Or ones big enough to constrict a human. It also includes a handful of snakes that are technically venomous, but where the venom is almost effective in humans or very hard to deliver an effective dose. Garter snakes are a good example.
Lots of snakes will bite if they feel threatened. A bite from a water snake or a rat snake is best described as angry sandpaper. They can break skin, but only superficial and soap and water is all that’s required for first aid. Contrary to popular belief, bites from most reptiles are pretty clean compared to mammal bites. Mammal mouths are nasty.
And I would much rather be bitten by a harmless snake than musked by one
SliverMcSilverson@reddit
Oh I see, I'm not familiar with that context, I was just thinking literally in this instance, my mistake.
Coincidentally that guy also got musked by that snake haha.
cluelessinlove753@reddit
Honestly, that’s worse. It stinks and it sticks to clothes and skin.
SliverMcSilverson@reddit
They showed me how a plain bellied musk smelled like, reminded me of rubber, I didn't get a chance to smell the diamond backed musk though
cluelessinlove753@reddit
Watersnakes as a group pretty much have the worst musk. It is smelly and high volume.
Garters have potent musk, but much less volume. It’s also harder to mess up handling them because they are much smaller.
GlocalBridge@reddit
And elliptical “cat” like pupils. If the eye has a round pupil, it is nonvenomous (except for Coral Snakes). But also the second “nostril” on each side that makes them Pit Vipers.
Low-Implement-820@reddit
This isn't true, pupil shape has nothing to do with if it's venemous or not. The king cobra has a round pupil for instance, and those are very venemous. Pupil shape has more to do with what time of day the snake is active, like if it's more nocturnal for instance.
GlocalBridge@reddit
What nonsense. There are no Cobras in Texas. As for poisonous snakes in the United States we only have Coral Snakes (Elapids with round pupils and not pits) and the Pit Vipers (Rattlesnakes, Copperheads, and “Cottonmouth” Water Moccasins), with elliptical eyes and heat-sensing pits. These guidelines are 100% accurate. And the snake in the photos is not a Cottonmouth, but a harmless water snake (Nerodia).
Initial_Ad8780@reddit
Cottonmouth according to Google lens
Current_Decision_217@reddit
Use AI why must everyone make shit so damn hard
JBerg3484@reddit
If you want to get told a cottonmouth is a rat snake, pick it up, get bit and hospitalized, yes - absolutely use AI, it’s fantastic for that!
Otherwise, I’d recommend avoiding it if you value true information!
Current_Decision_217@reddit
Idk what youre using but thats not what mine said
This_Daydreamer_@reddit
The AI tools don't even agree with each other!
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
Because AI is fucking awful at identifying snakes. Seriously awful. It might get it right sometimes (likely in this case) and someone can become convinced that it's reliable because of confirmation bias, but it's terrible. Seeking help from knowledgable humans through resources like /r/WhatsThisSnake is the way.
no_mics@reddit
Definitely looks like my ex. Don't feed her Applebee's. 😒
Agitated-Sea6800@reddit
Those noodles will chase you too!
ampsdb01@reddit
😱
Acrobatic_Box9087@reddit
Might be a cottonmouth or a harmless water snake. Need a better pic of his head.
Just to be on the safe side, give that guy a wide berth.
Suspicious-Road-883@reddit
It looks like a yellow bellied water snake, cotton mouths have a more white belly and typically will hang their mouth open when encountering potential predators
Rich_Helicopter_2128@reddit
this is correct.
DarthSadie@reddit
Incorrect, this is a cottonmouth
AteEight88888@reddit
Who are you calling yellow-bellied?
cluelessinlove753@reddit
100% cotton mouth. Chin splotches a dead giveaway in combination with lots of other factors.
Phyrnosoma@reddit
add lack of labial bars, and the supraocular scales
parkeyb@reddit
Yeah we definitely don’t need any other pics to tell that this is absolutely a cottonmouth.
Low_Vermicelli5946@reddit
Hello cotton mouth!!
Illustrious-Wave652@reddit
that is commonly known as a Nope Rope.
Longjumping-Rip-1730@reddit
Speckled king snake = Beautiful coloring underneath and a boss of a Snake 🐍
Ibadanlomo@reddit
Please learn from a distance.
Impressive-Case431@reddit
Looks like non venomous yellow bellied water snake, eats frogs and fish
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
It's a Northern Cottonmouth Agkistrodon piscivorus. The reply to !cottonwater has tips on telling them apart. :)
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
There are a few things that can help differentiate between cottonmouths (A. piscivorus, A. conanti) and harmless water snakes (Nerodia spp.) once you learn to recognize them properly. It's important to try to apply as many keys as possible; the more of these characteristics you can accurately identify, the more reliable your ID will be. Underlined text links to pictures to help illustrate the keys.
Cottonmouths have a prominent, angular ridge along the top of the head, starting around the supraocular scale (directly above the eye) and running forward toward the snout (side view, front view). This ridge protrudes outward, partially overhanging the eye like a brow, and gives the snake an annoyed or grumpy looking appearance. This also partially obscures the eyes when viewed from above. In water snakes, the supraocular scale does not overhang the eye, giving the animal a 'derpy' appearance from the side or head on, and allows you to see most of the eye from above.
Cottonmouths have white or cream colored horizontal stripes or lines that run from below the eye toward the corner of the mouth, and often another that runs from behind the top of the eye toward the point of the jaw. Water snakes do not.
Water snakes usually have dark, vertical bars along the edges of their labial scales. Cottonmouths do not.
Cottonmouths and water snakes both darken with age, and the pattern is often obscured by the time they reach adulthood. When the dorsolateral pattern IS visible, cottonmouths have bands that are usually wider at the bottom than on top; like pyramids in side view, or hourglasses from above. In some individuals, the bands might be broken or incomplete, so this is not 100% diagnostic, but is still useful when used in conjunction with the other keys. Water snakes exhibit a wide variety of patterns; most species aren't banded at all, and the ones that are banded have bands that are wider at the top, like upside down triangles.
Adult cottonmouths often have a noticeable dorsal ridge along the vertebrae. This gives the body a triangular appearance in cross-section, which is especially noticeable in underweight or dehydrated animals, or when they initiate a defensive display. Water snakes, by contrast, are more cylindrical in cross-section.
Baby cottonmouths are born with yellow or greenish tail tips (used to lure small prey) that fade as they age. Young water snakes do not have these (baby N. sipedon, baby N. rhombifer for comparison).
Adult water snakes are fairly heavy-bodied, but cottonmouths of similar length tend to be significantly stouter. /n/n There are also some notable behavioral differences. Water snakes often bask in branches and bushes overhanging water; this is uncommon in cottonmouths. It is also true that water snakes often swim with the body partially submerged, while cottonmouths usually swim with the head held high and much of the body above the water line, but you can't rely on this characteristic alone; each are fully capable of swimming the other way and sometimes do so. Water snakes are more likely than cottonmouths to dive underwater to escape danger. When approached, water snakes are more likely to rapidly flee, whereas cottonmouths are more likely to slowly crawl away or simply stay still and hope not to be noticed. If approached closely or cornered, water snakes are more likely to flatten out their heads and/or bodies to appear larger and/or strike in the general direction of the person/animal they are cornered by, hoping to create enough space to escape. Cottonmouths, on the other hand, are more likely to tilt their heads back (to a near vertical angle) and gape their mouths open, displaying the white lining of the mouth as a threat display, and vibrate their tails.
Bonus: two separate sets of cottonmouths preying upon water snakes that allow direct comparisons between similarly sized animals, plus a picture of a juvenile cottonmouth (bottom left) with a juvenile common water snake (top) and a juvenile plain-bellied water snake (bottom right).
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No_Helicopter9369@reddit
Not friend. Cottonmouth
masquefetiche@reddit
That looks like a plain-bellied water snake, which is very common around North Texas ponds, lakes, and parks. Not poisonous
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
It's a Northern Cottonmouth Agkistrodon piscivorus. The reply to !cottonwater has tips on telling them apart. :)
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
There are a few things that can help differentiate between cottonmouths (A. piscivorus, A. conanti) and harmless water snakes (Nerodia spp.) once you learn to recognize them properly. It's important to try to apply as many keys as possible; the more of these characteristics you can accurately identify, the more reliable your ID will be. Underlined text links to pictures to help illustrate the keys.
Cottonmouths have a prominent, angular ridge along the top of the head, starting around the supraocular scale (directly above the eye) and running forward toward the snout (side view, front view). This ridge protrudes outward, partially overhanging the eye like a brow, and gives the snake an annoyed or grumpy looking appearance. This also partially obscures the eyes when viewed from above. In water snakes, the supraocular scale does not overhang the eye, giving the animal a 'derpy' appearance from the side or head on, and allows you to see most of the eye from above.
Cottonmouths have white or cream colored horizontal stripes or lines that run from below the eye toward the corner of the mouth, and often another that runs from behind the top of the eye toward the point of the jaw. Water snakes do not.
Water snakes usually have dark, vertical bars along the edges of their labial scales. Cottonmouths do not.
Cottonmouths and water snakes both darken with age, and the pattern is often obscured by the time they reach adulthood. When the dorsolateral pattern IS visible, cottonmouths have bands that are usually wider at the bottom than on top; like pyramids in side view, or hourglasses from above. In some individuals, the bands might be broken or incomplete, so this is not 100% diagnostic, but is still useful when used in conjunction with the other keys. Water snakes exhibit a wide variety of patterns; most species aren't banded at all, and the ones that are banded have bands that are wider at the top, like upside down triangles.
Adult cottonmouths often have a noticeable dorsal ridge along the vertebrae. This gives the body a triangular appearance in cross-section, which is especially noticeable in underweight or dehydrated animals, or when they initiate a defensive display. Water snakes, by contrast, are more cylindrical in cross-section.
Baby cottonmouths are born with yellow or greenish tail tips (used to lure small prey) that fade as they age. Young water snakes do not have these (baby N. sipedon, baby N. rhombifer for comparison).
Adult water snakes are fairly heavy-bodied, but cottonmouths of similar length tend to be significantly stouter. /n/n There are also some notable behavioral differences. Water snakes often bask in branches and bushes overhanging water; this is uncommon in cottonmouths. It is also true that water snakes often swim with the body partially submerged, while cottonmouths usually swim with the head held high and much of the body above the water line, but you can't rely on this characteristic alone; each are fully capable of swimming the other way and sometimes do so. Water snakes are more likely than cottonmouths to dive underwater to escape danger. When approached, water snakes are more likely to rapidly flee, whereas cottonmouths are more likely to slowly crawl away or simply stay still and hope not to be noticed. If approached closely or cornered, water snakes are more likely to flatten out their heads and/or bodies to appear larger and/or strike in the general direction of the person/animal they are cornered by, hoping to create enough space to escape. Cottonmouths, on the other hand, are more likely to tilt their heads back (to a near vertical angle) and gape their mouths open, displaying the white lining of the mouth as a threat display, and vibrate their tails.
Bonus: two separate sets of cottonmouths preying upon water snakes that allow direct comparisons between similarly sized animals, plus a picture of a juvenile cottonmouth (bottom left) with a juvenile common water snake (top) and a juvenile plain-bellied water snake (bottom right).
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Ntx-Italiano@reddit
Almost certainly a Cottonmouth. I go fishing in the creeks and rivers around here a lot and cross paths with these guys and water snakes often. They like to stand there ground unless in water, but pretty harmless.
brad28820@reddit
I've no idea but it's scary there are people saying totally different things lol
shrike1978@reddit
Every flaired user from r/whatsthissnake, including myself, is giving the correct answer of Cottonmouth.
serpenthusiast@reddit
Dunning Kruger effect at its finest !
BigBirdLaw69420@reddit
https://makeagif.com/gif/iasip-frank-reynolds-on-the-gun-controversy-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-wSJNMB
DCJustSomeone@reddit
It’s a reptile noodle!
NativeTxn7@reddit
Cottonmouth
Fun_Departure_3013@reddit
A good way to know what you are dealing with is this simple rule:
If it bites you and it hurts, non venomous
If it bites you and you die, venomous
slickhour@reddit
Cottonmouth (because it displays white lining of its mouth to its threat when it gapes). Stands its ground in front of intruders. Venomous, capable of delivering a painful and potentially fatal bite.
Sole_Whisperer64127@reddit
It looks like it only wants to attack you. You really pissed it off. I’m a snake expert.
dreams123@reddit
It's a moccasin, but not the kind you want to put on your foot.
Particular_Base_1026@reddit
Eastern Hognose snake
Elguapo69@reddit
Plugged this image into Gemini and chat gpt and both said plain/yellow bellied water snake. Not venomous
This_Daydreamer_@reddit
You really shouldn't trust !aitools, especially since both Gemini and ChatGPT got this one wrong, as they very often do
Elguapo69@reddit
You’re right. Reddit is much more reliable at identifying poisonous snakes as evident by the comments in this thread.
This_Daydreamer_@reddit
r/Dallas is not reliable at identifying snakes, but r/whatsthissnake is. There are several of us from WTS in the comments here and we're all telling you that this is a cottonmouth. https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/1teer3h/dallas_tx_cant_settle_on_which_snake_this_is_and/
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
We like AI tools like iNaturalist, Merlin and Google Lens, but there is still too much subtlety and nuance to animal identification to rely on them in their current state. For reptiles, even the best tools are eclipsed by the knowledge of amateurs, and can result in guesses that endanger snake or human health. We don't recommend their use and generally consider comments like 'Google Lens says it's a racer' to be unhelpful.
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TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
It’s a North Cottonmouth Agkistrodon piscivorus. AI tools are awful at identifying snakes
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
Northern Cottonmouths Agkistrodon piscivorus are one of two recognized species of large (76-114 cm record 188 cm) semi-aquatic pitvipers in eastern North America. Florida has a closely related but distinct species, the Florida cottonmouth Agkistrodon conanti.
Cottonmouths are venomous, and are therefore dangerous if approached closely or handled. They are not generally aggressive and will most likely flee any confrontation if given a chance to retreat. Some may bluff charge or boldly move towards humans to get out of a cornered situation, but have never been recorded chasing people.
Northern Cottonmouths are dark, possibly faintly patterned snakes (except as juveniles), best known for their defensive posture with a gaping, white lined mouth. They are also distinguishable from most watersnakes by their sharp brow ridges and dark stripe over the eyes.
The specific epithet "piscivorus" describes the one of the prey species of the cottonmouth - fish. The cottonmouth is also fond of frogs, mammals and other snakes. Although it may be commonly seen in lakes and ponds frequented by humans, few fatalities are recorded as a result of bites by cottonmouths.
Comparison of juvenile vs adult cottonmouth.
Species Complex Map | Relevant/Recent Phylogeography
The Agkistrodon piscivorus species complex has been delimited using modern molecular methods and two species with no subspecies are recognized. There is a zone of admixture between the two cottonmouth species where they overlap around panhandle Florida.
This short account was prepared by /u/unknown_name and edited by /u/Phylogenizer.
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Athelle@reddit
The amount of people confidently and incorrectly identifying this as a cottonmouth is kinda scary. It's most likely some kind of water snake but I can say with certainty it is not a cottonmouth. Cottonmouth have a very distinctive brow ridge and line to their eye. Please crosspost this to r/whatsthissnake for an accurate ID.
cluelessinlove753@reddit
It is a cottonmouth
Chin blotches, triangular body, jagged pattern, typical dark coloration for mature snakes in this part of the range
Athelle@reddit
I see. I will delete my post. Still seems unusual to me but I am not an expert and should not have commented. Thanks for the reply.
cluelessinlove753@reddit
No worries. I’m kind of a nerd about this stuff and have spent a couple of years in some really helpful Facebook groups that are staffed by expert herpers and herpetologists.
I think one of the most valuable, because it is huge/active/well moderated, is the North Texas snake identification Facebook group. They will ID snakes from anywhere, not just North Texas… But not pets.
Rich_Helicopter_2128@reddit
lots of bad answers here. non venomous plain bellied water snake.
This_Daydreamer_@reddit
Do yourself a favor and don't try to handle any watersnakes. This is 100% a cottonmouth. The bot response to !cottonwater has some good tips on telling the difference
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
There are a few things that can help differentiate between cottonmouths (A. piscivorus, A. conanti) and harmless water snakes (Nerodia spp.) once you learn to recognize them properly. It's important to try to apply as many keys as possible; the more of these characteristics you can accurately identify, the more reliable your ID will be. Underlined text links to pictures to help illustrate the keys.
Cottonmouths have a prominent, angular ridge along the top of the head, starting around the supraocular scale (directly above the eye) and running forward toward the snout (side view, front view). This ridge protrudes outward, partially overhanging the eye like a brow, and gives the snake an annoyed or grumpy looking appearance. This also partially obscures the eyes when viewed from above. In water snakes, the supraocular scale does not overhang the eye, giving the animal a 'derpy' appearance from the side or head on, and allows you to see most of the eye from above.
Cottonmouths have white or cream colored horizontal stripes or lines that run from below the eye toward the corner of the mouth, and often another that runs from behind the top of the eye toward the point of the jaw. Water snakes do not.
Water snakes usually have dark, vertical bars along the edges of their labial scales. Cottonmouths do not.
Cottonmouths and water snakes both darken with age, and the pattern is often obscured by the time they reach adulthood. When the dorsolateral pattern IS visible, cottonmouths have bands that are usually wider at the bottom than on top; like pyramids in side view, or hourglasses from above. In some individuals, the bands might be broken or incomplete, so this is not 100% diagnostic, but is still useful when used in conjunction with the other keys. Water snakes exhibit a wide variety of patterns; most species aren't banded at all, and the ones that are banded have bands that are wider at the top, like upside down triangles.
Adult cottonmouths often have a noticeable dorsal ridge along the vertebrae. This gives the body a triangular appearance in cross-section, which is especially noticeable in underweight or dehydrated animals, or when they initiate a defensive display. Water snakes, by contrast, are more cylindrical in cross-section.
Baby cottonmouths are born with yellow or greenish tail tips (used to lure small prey) that fade as they age. Young water snakes do not have these (baby N. sipedon, baby N. rhombifer for comparison).
Adult water snakes are fairly heavy-bodied, but cottonmouths of similar length tend to be significantly stouter. /n/n There are also some notable behavioral differences. Water snakes often bask in branches and bushes overhanging water; this is uncommon in cottonmouths. It is also true that water snakes often swim with the body partially submerged, while cottonmouths usually swim with the head held high and much of the body above the water line, but you can't rely on this characteristic alone; each are fully capable of swimming the other way and sometimes do so. Water snakes are more likely than cottonmouths to dive underwater to escape danger. When approached, water snakes are more likely to rapidly flee, whereas cottonmouths are more likely to slowly crawl away or simply stay still and hope not to be noticed. If approached closely or cornered, water snakes are more likely to flatten out their heads and/or bodies to appear larger and/or strike in the general direction of the person/animal they are cornered by, hoping to create enough space to escape. Cottonmouths, on the other hand, are more likely to tilt their heads back (to a near vertical angle) and gape their mouths open, displaying the white lining of the mouth as a threat display, and vibrate their tails.
Bonus: two separate sets of cottonmouths preying upon water snakes that allow direct comparisons between similarly sized animals, plus a picture of a juvenile cottonmouth (bottom left) with a juvenile common water snake (top) and a juvenile plain-bellied water snake (bottom right).
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Rich_Helicopter_2128@reddit
the only danger this thing poses is musking on you
manalishi@reddit
lol at the comments - apparently it for sure is harmless except it might actually kill you
KingOfNothing_85@reddit
Most predators can kill you, these snakes only "go after you" if they feel threatened by you. The while idea of being chased or whatever comes from them beelining to their safe spot that you happened to be in the way of.
More people die from bees or dogs per year than cottonmouths.
joshwaynebobbit@reddit
What about dogs with bees in their mouths?
DeeezzzNutzzz69@reddit
Chances are low but never zero
Fit-Presentation-778@reddit
Best comment hands down.
FastEngineer5635@reddit
Pick it up from behind the head, or just start playing a recorder .
portuguese_pandaa@reddit
That's a venomous danger mouthed cotton noodle
Beginning-Head-4006@reddit
1st of, u could have ai this . 2nd , is Coppell in Dallas city limit? Why don't u post it in r/Coppell
kgvc7@reddit
It’s not a cottonmouth/water moccasin. It’s a water snake.
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
No, it's a Cottonmouth Agkistrodon piscivorus. It has crossbands that are widest at the bottom, enlarged supraocular scales, different facial markings, and more. !cottonwater
kgvc7@reddit
Look at the eyes. You’re wrong dude.
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
What about them? They're slit-shaped, and even if they were round, this is still 100% a cottonmouth. !pupils for more. 👍
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
Pupil shape should not be used in determining the presence of medically significant venom. Not only are there many venomous elapids with round pupils, there are many harmless snakes with slit pupils, such as Hypsiglena sp. Nightsnakes, Leptodeira sp. Cat-eyed Snakes, and even some common pet species such as Ball Pythons.
Furthermore, when eyes with slit pupils are dilated by low light or a stress response, the pupils will be round. As an example, while Copperheads have slit pupils, when dilated the pupils will appear round.
Slit pupils are associated primarily with nocturnal behavior in animals, as they offer sensitivity to see well in low light while providing the ability to block out most light during the day that would otherwise overwhelm highly sensitive receptors. Slit pupils may protect from high UV in eyes that lack UV filters in the lens. These functions are decoupled from the use of venom in prey acquisition and are present in many harmless species.
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SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
Northern Cottonmouths Agkistrodon piscivorus are one of two recognized species of large (76-114 cm record 188 cm) semi-aquatic pitvipers in eastern North America. Florida has a closely related but distinct species, the Florida cottonmouth Agkistrodon conanti.
Cottonmouths are venomous, and are therefore dangerous if approached closely or handled. They are not generally aggressive and will most likely flee any confrontation if given a chance to retreat. Some may bluff charge or boldly move towards humans to get out of a cornered situation, but have never been recorded chasing people.
Northern Cottonmouths are dark, possibly faintly patterned snakes (except as juveniles), best known for their defensive posture with a gaping, white lined mouth. They are also distinguishable from most watersnakes by their sharp brow ridges and dark stripe over the eyes.
The specific epithet "piscivorus" describes the one of the prey species of the cottonmouth - fish. The cottonmouth is also fond of frogs, mammals and other snakes. Although it may be commonly seen in lakes and ponds frequented by humans, few fatalities are recorded as a result of bites by cottonmouths.
Comparison of juvenile vs adult cottonmouth.
Species Complex Map | Relevant/Recent Phylogeography
The Agkistrodon piscivorus species complex has been delimited using modern molecular methods and two species with no subspecies are recognized. There is a zone of admixture between the two cottonmouth species where they overlap around panhandle Florida.
This short account was prepared by /u/unknown_name and edited by /u/Phylogenizer.
There are a few things that can help differentiate between cottonmouths (A. piscivorus, A. conanti) and harmless water snakes (Nerodia spp.) once you learn to recognize them properly. It's important to try to apply as many keys as possible; the more of these characteristics you can accurately identify, the more reliable your ID will be. Underlined text links to pictures to help illustrate the keys.
Cottonmouths have a prominent, angular ridge along the top of the head, starting around the supraocular scale (directly above the eye) and running forward toward the snout (side view, front view). This ridge protrudes outward, partially overhanging the eye like a brow, and gives the snake an annoyed or grumpy looking appearance. This also partially obscures the eyes when viewed from above. In water snakes, the supraocular scale does not overhang the eye, giving the animal a 'derpy' appearance from the side or head on, and allows you to see most of the eye from above.
Cottonmouths have white or cream colored horizontal stripes or lines that run from below the eye toward the corner of the mouth, and often another that runs from behind the top of the eye toward the point of the jaw. Water snakes do not.
Water snakes usually have dark, vertical bars along the edges of their labial scales. Cottonmouths do not.
Cottonmouths and water snakes both darken with age, and the pattern is often obscured by the time they reach adulthood. When the dorsolateral pattern IS visible, cottonmouths have bands that are usually wider at the bottom than on top; like pyramids in side view, or hourglasses from above. In some individuals, the bands might be broken or incomplete, so this is not 100% diagnostic, but is still useful when used in conjunction with the other keys. Water snakes exhibit a wide variety of patterns; most species aren't banded at all, and the ones that are banded have bands that are wider at the top, like upside down triangles.
Adult cottonmouths often have a noticeable dorsal ridge along the vertebrae. This gives the body a triangular appearance in cross-section, which is especially noticeable in underweight or dehydrated animals, or when they initiate a defensive display. Water snakes, by contrast, are more cylindrical in cross-section.
Baby cottonmouths are born with yellow or greenish tail tips (used to lure small prey) that fade as they age. Young water snakes do not have these (baby N. sipedon, baby N. rhombifer for comparison).
Adult water snakes are fairly heavy-bodied, but cottonmouths of similar length tend to be significantly stouter. /n/n There are also some notable behavioral differences. Water snakes often bask in branches and bushes overhanging water; this is uncommon in cottonmouths. It is also true that water snakes often swim with the body partially submerged, while cottonmouths usually swim with the head held high and much of the body above the water line, but you can't rely on this characteristic alone; each are fully capable of swimming the other way and sometimes do so. Water snakes are more likely than cottonmouths to dive underwater to escape danger. When approached, water snakes are more likely to rapidly flee, whereas cottonmouths are more likely to slowly crawl away or simply stay still and hope not to be noticed. If approached closely or cornered, water snakes are more likely to flatten out their heads and/or bodies to appear larger and/or strike in the general direction of the person/animal they are cornered by, hoping to create enough space to escape. Cottonmouths, on the other hand, are more likely to tilt their heads back (to a near vertical angle) and gape their mouths open, displaying the white lining of the mouth as a threat display, and vibrate their tails.
Bonus: two separate sets of cottonmouths preying upon water snakes that allow direct comparisons between similarly sized animals, plus a picture of a juvenile cottonmouth (bottom left) with a juvenile common water snake (top) and a juvenile plain-bellied water snake (bottom right).
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kgvc7@reddit
AI BS
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
Nope. Every word this bot has ever reposted was written by a real expert.
EdKrull@reddit
Could have escaped from SnakesPlus in Watauga
Yos13@reddit
Looks like a rat snake - not venomous. It’s not a coper head and it’s not a viper/water moccasin the head is not triangular.
doubtfurious@reddit
No step on snek
throttledog@reddit
Can you pry its mouth open with your fingers so we can see the teeth? Also, flip it over to show the belly. Might have a real one
Classic-Bar4370@reddit
That’s a baby back rattle cat
sdckitkat@reddit
Cotton mouth / water moccasin. Best left alone to do snek things.
grittyfish@reddit
My wife (a self professed expert on snakes and all snake related things as she's from Florida) says Cottonmouth. Venous. Beware. She's usually right. Being Canadian I have no idea what's happening....sorry 🤷
hot_rod_kimble@reddit
I'm not expert, but I'd put $20 on cottonmouth/water moccasin
yeahright17@reddit
I think it's a hognose.
Matildamonstrosity@reddit
Ridged back, pale belly, aggressive fuck off posture… yup
justinhaled@reddit
I second this novice ID.
hypnob0t@reddit
its funny to me that a snake scientist is called a HERPEtologist.....teehee!
Really though, did anyone ever watch Jeff Corwin growing up??? God that was some great shit.
Developesque1@reddit
See face - is pit viper type, aka, poison pokemon.
Triangle head, not good things, do the dead.
Probably won't kill, but gonna give you the fever shakes like you don't want.
thatwillnotsuffice@reddit
What a cutie
jv105782@reddit
Venemous cottonmouth
RaccoonAwareness@reddit
r/whatsthissnake
AwkwardRainbow@reddit
That subreddit is one of my favorites and whew, these comments have me stressed because of it lol.
FleaBottoms@reddit
To be on the safe side my grandma also took a garden hoe to these critters.
latinobombshell@reddit
Girl bye
EnvironmentalPie4825@reddit
😆😂
Low-Implement-820@reddit
The shade that snake is throwing in the 3rd pic lol, these are great. yes, this is a cottonmouth, right down to the classic "head up" position they so often do. He's venemous but will leave you alone if you leave him alone. if you need to move him along for some reason, spray him with a garden hose and he should leave but otherwise he should move away on his own too. Beautiful, healthy looking snake, thanks for sharing!! Loved the pics.
Any-Spring1504@reddit
Cottonmouth from the looks... killed a woman picking berries on the side of the road in Louisiana with her kids in the truck when I was growing up.
SimpleVegetable5715@reddit
That’s a cottonmouth/water moccasin. Not friend, but they’re still likely more scared of you than you are of them.
serpenthusiast@reddit
friend from a distance
JamesonThibodeaux@reddit
Ok cotton mouth. Common in Texas. She venomous, not too deadly though.
Denalitwentytwo@reddit
Water moccasin, not cool.
This_Daydreamer_@reddit
Northern Cottonmouth, Agkistrodon piscivorus, !venomous and !cottonwater for tips on telling the difference between a cottonmouth like this guy and a watersnake
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
Northern Cottonmouths Agkistrodon piscivorus are one of two recognized species of large (76-114 cm record 188 cm) semi-aquatic pitvipers in eastern North America. Florida has a closely related but distinct species, the Florida cottonmouth Agkistrodon conanti.
Cottonmouths are venomous, and are therefore dangerous if approached closely or handled. They are not generally aggressive and will most likely flee any confrontation if given a chance to retreat. Some may bluff charge or boldly move towards humans to get out of a cornered situation, but have never been recorded chasing people.
Northern Cottonmouths are dark, possibly faintly patterned snakes (except as juveniles), best known for their defensive posture with a gaping, white lined mouth. They are also distinguishable from most watersnakes by their sharp brow ridges and dark stripe over the eyes.
The specific epithet "piscivorus" describes the one of the prey species of the cottonmouth - fish. The cottonmouth is also fond of frogs, mammals and other snakes. Although it may be commonly seen in lakes and ponds frequented by humans, few fatalities are recorded as a result of bites by cottonmouths.
Comparison of juvenile vs adult cottonmouth.
Species Complex Map | Relevant/Recent Phylogeography
The Agkistrodon piscivorus species complex has been delimited using modern molecular methods and two species with no subspecies are recognized. There is a zone of admixture between the two cottonmouth species where they overlap around panhandle Florida.
This short account was prepared by /u/unknown_name and edited by /u/Phylogenizer.
Snakes with medically significant venom are typically referred to as venomous, but some species are also poisonous. Old media will use poisonous or 'snake venom poisoning' but that has fallen out of favor. Venomous snakes are important native wildlife, and are not looking to harm people, so can be enjoyed from a distance. If found around the home or other places where they are to be discouraged, a squirt from the hose or a gentle sweep of a broom are usually enough to make a snake move along. Do not attempt to interact closely with or otherwise kill venomous snakes without proper safety gear and training, as bites occur mostly during these scenarios. Wildlife relocation services are often free or inexpensive.
If you are bitten by a venomous snake, contact emergency services or otherwise arrange transport to the nearest hospital that can accommodate snakebite. Remove constricting clothes and jewelry and remain calm. A bite from a medically significant snake is a medical emergency, but not in the ways portrayed in popular media. Do not make any incisions or otherwise cut tissue. Extractor and other novelty snakebite kits are not effective and can cause damage worse than remaining calm, seeking help and waiting for professional evaluation.
There are a few things that can help differentiate between cottonmouths (A. piscivorus, A. conanti) and harmless water snakes (Nerodia spp.) once you learn to recognize them properly. It's important to try to apply as many keys as possible; the more of these characteristics you can accurately identify, the more reliable your ID will be. Underlined text links to pictures to help illustrate the keys.
Cottonmouths have a prominent, angular ridge along the top of the head, starting around the supraocular scale (directly above the eye) and running forward toward the snout (side view, front view). This ridge protrudes outward, partially overhanging the eye like a brow, and gives the snake an annoyed or grumpy looking appearance. This also partially obscures the eyes when viewed from above. In water snakes, the supraocular scale does not overhang the eye, giving the animal a 'derpy' appearance from the side or head on, and allows you to see most of the eye from above.
Cottonmouths have white or cream colored horizontal stripes or lines that run from below the eye toward the corner of the mouth, and often another that runs from behind the top of the eye toward the point of the jaw. Water snakes do not.
Water snakes usually have dark, vertical bars along the edges of their labial scales. Cottonmouths do not.
Cottonmouths and water snakes both darken with age, and the pattern is often obscured by the time they reach adulthood. When the dorsolateral pattern IS visible, cottonmouths have bands that are usually wider at the bottom than on top; like pyramids in side view, or hourglasses from above. In some individuals, the bands might be broken or incomplete, so this is not 100% diagnostic, but is still useful when used in conjunction with the other keys. Water snakes exhibit a wide variety of patterns; most species aren't banded at all, and the ones that are banded have bands that are wider at the top, like upside down triangles.
Adult cottonmouths often have a noticeable dorsal ridge along the vertebrae. This gives the body a triangular appearance in cross-section, which is especially noticeable in underweight or dehydrated animals, or when they initiate a defensive display. Water snakes, by contrast, are more cylindrical in cross-section.
Baby cottonmouths are born with yellow or greenish tail tips (used to lure small prey) that fade as they age. Young water snakes do not have these (baby N. sipedon, baby N. rhombifer for comparison).
Adult water snakes are fairly heavy-bodied, but cottonmouths of similar length tend to be significantly stouter. /n/n There are also some notable behavioral differences. Water snakes often bask in branches and bushes overhanging water; this is uncommon in cottonmouths. It is also true that water snakes often swim with the body partially submerged, while cottonmouths usually swim with the head held high and much of the body above the water line, but you can't rely on this characteristic alone; each are fully capable of swimming the other way and sometimes do so. Water snakes are more likely than cottonmouths to dive underwater to escape danger. When approached, water snakes are more likely to rapidly flee, whereas cottonmouths are more likely to slowly crawl away or simply stay still and hope not to be noticed. If approached closely or cornered, water snakes are more likely to flatten out their heads and/or bodies to appear larger and/or strike in the general direction of the person/animal they are cornered by, hoping to create enough space to escape. Cottonmouths, on the other hand, are more likely to tilt their heads back (to a near vertical angle) and gape their mouths open, displaying the white lining of the mouth as a threat display, and vibrate their tails.
Bonus: two separate sets of cottonmouths preying upon water snakes that allow direct comparisons between similarly sized animals, plus a picture of a juvenile cottonmouth (bottom left) with a juvenile common water snake (top) and a juvenile plain-bellied water snake (bottom right).
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nslimmo@reddit
FYI no snakes are "aggressive", only defensive! Subtle difference but means a lot when you consider the public's perception of snakes. They're just scared of people lol
PM_ME_FIRE_PICS@reddit
No North American snakes are outwardly aggressive towards humans.
Black mambas (Africa) and eastern brown snakes (Australia) will actively seek you out to fuck you up.
serpenthusiast@reddit
they will not, funny how often such is claimed online and yet there does not exist a single video
ToddtheRugerKid@reddit
You've never had one charge at you from 10 feet away on a trail have you?
DaddyMalfoy@reddit
r/whatisthissnake
hawtsince92@reddit
Leave that sweet baby alone. He’s just trying to exist. Also he is a venomous cotton mouth or water moccasin as they are sometimes called.
LuckyLoquat4660@reddit
I have a free app called Seek, it identifies all kinds of knitters.
serpenthusiast@reddit
the Seek Ai, while better than Google lens, chatgpt whatever, is still very much flawed, you can get much much better answers from qualified people like over on r/whatsthissnake
MLMLW@reddit
That looks like a water mocassin (cottonmouth) and they are venomous.
The-Architect-93@reddit
ChatGPT; This appears to be a nonvenomous water snake, most likely a Plain-bellied Watersnake or a closely related Nerodia species.
WYYATA@reddit
Same response I got but clearly it is a water moccasin due to all the smarter than AI Reddit snake experts in the Dallas sub…
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
This is certainly a terrible place for snake ID, but some of us come from /r/WhatsThisSnake and know what we're doing. This is a cottonmouth Agkistrodon piscivorus, and ChatGPT is worse than useless for this.
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
!cottonwater can help anyone interested in learning.
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
There are a few things that can help differentiate between cottonmouths (A. piscivorus, A. conanti) and harmless water snakes (Nerodia spp.) once you learn to recognize them properly. It's important to try to apply as many keys as possible; the more of these characteristics you can accurately identify, the more reliable your ID will be. Underlined text links to pictures to help illustrate the keys.
Cottonmouths have a prominent, angular ridge along the top of the head, starting around the supraocular scale (directly above the eye) and running forward toward the snout (side view, front view). This ridge protrudes outward, partially overhanging the eye like a brow, and gives the snake an annoyed or grumpy looking appearance. This also partially obscures the eyes when viewed from above. In water snakes, the supraocular scale does not overhang the eye, giving the animal a 'derpy' appearance from the side or head on, and allows you to see most of the eye from above.
Cottonmouths have white or cream colored horizontal stripes or lines that run from below the eye toward the corner of the mouth, and often another that runs from behind the top of the eye toward the point of the jaw. Water snakes do not.
Water snakes usually have dark, vertical bars along the edges of their labial scales. Cottonmouths do not.
Cottonmouths and water snakes both darken with age, and the pattern is often obscured by the time they reach adulthood. When the dorsolateral pattern IS visible, cottonmouths have bands that are usually wider at the bottom than on top; like pyramids in side view, or hourglasses from above. In some individuals, the bands might be broken or incomplete, so this is not 100% diagnostic, but is still useful when used in conjunction with the other keys. Water snakes exhibit a wide variety of patterns; most species aren't banded at all, and the ones that are banded have bands that are wider at the top, like upside down triangles.
Adult cottonmouths often have a noticeable dorsal ridge along the vertebrae. This gives the body a triangular appearance in cross-section, which is especially noticeable in underweight or dehydrated animals, or when they initiate a defensive display. Water snakes, by contrast, are more cylindrical in cross-section.
Baby cottonmouths are born with yellow or greenish tail tips (used to lure small prey) that fade as they age. Young water snakes do not have these (baby N. sipedon, baby N. rhombifer for comparison).
Adult water snakes are fairly heavy-bodied, but cottonmouths of similar length tend to be significantly stouter. /n/n There are also some notable behavioral differences. Water snakes often bask in branches and bushes overhanging water; this is uncommon in cottonmouths. It is also true that water snakes often swim with the body partially submerged, while cottonmouths usually swim with the head held high and much of the body above the water line, but you can't rely on this characteristic alone; each are fully capable of swimming the other way and sometimes do so. Water snakes are more likely than cottonmouths to dive underwater to escape danger. When approached, water snakes are more likely to rapidly flee, whereas cottonmouths are more likely to slowly crawl away or simply stay still and hope not to be noticed. If approached closely or cornered, water snakes are more likely to flatten out their heads and/or bodies to appear larger and/or strike in the general direction of the person/animal they are cornered by, hoping to create enough space to escape. Cottonmouths, on the other hand, are more likely to tilt their heads back (to a near vertical angle) and gape their mouths open, displaying the white lining of the mouth as a threat display, and vibrate their tails.
Bonus: two separate sets of cottonmouths preying upon water snakes that allow direct comparisons between similarly sized animals, plus a picture of a juvenile cottonmouth (bottom left) with a juvenile common water snake (top) and a juvenile plain-bellied water snake (bottom right).
I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, here report problems here and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that here. This bot, its development, maintenance and use are made possible through the outreach wing of Snake Evolution and Biogeography - Merch Available Now
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
AI tools are terrible at identifying wildlife. This is Agkistrodon piscivorus, a venomous cottonmouth
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
Northern Cottonmouths Agkistrodon piscivorus are one of two recognized species of large (76-114 cm record 188 cm) semi-aquatic pitvipers in eastern North America. Florida has a closely related but distinct species, the Florida cottonmouth Agkistrodon conanti.
Cottonmouths are venomous, and are therefore dangerous if approached closely or handled. They are not generally aggressive and will most likely flee any confrontation if given a chance to retreat. Some may bluff charge or boldly move towards humans to get out of a cornered situation, but have never been recorded chasing people.
Northern Cottonmouths are dark, possibly faintly patterned snakes (except as juveniles), best known for their defensive posture with a gaping, white lined mouth. They are also distinguishable from most watersnakes by their sharp brow ridges and dark stripe over the eyes.
The specific epithet "piscivorus" describes the one of the prey species of the cottonmouth - fish. The cottonmouth is also fond of frogs, mammals and other snakes. Although it may be commonly seen in lakes and ponds frequented by humans, few fatalities are recorded as a result of bites by cottonmouths.
Comparison of juvenile vs adult cottonmouth.
Species Complex Map | Relevant/Recent Phylogeography
The Agkistrodon piscivorus species complex has been delimited using modern molecular methods and two species with no subspecies are recognized. There is a zone of admixture between the two cottonmouth species where they overlap around panhandle Florida.
This short account was prepared by /u/unknown_name and edited by /u/Phylogenizer.
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thisisDougsPhone67@reddit
There is an app called "Seek" that will identify plants, bugs and snakes with you camera...highly recommend. You can load your pictures to id it..
serpenthusiast@reddit
eh, the Seek AI is way better than google, chatgpt whatever, but still sucks ass
CrimsonAllah@reddit
Gemini says it’s a Yellow-bellied Watersnake
serpenthusiast@reddit
and it's wrong
Crying_in_99Ranch@reddit
Careful, any mention of using AI will get you downvoted to oblivion
serpenthusiast@reddit
cuz it's ass
abbyabb@reddit
I wouldn't put my trust in an AI to accurately ID a snake.
Creeptoke@reddit
Thick body thin tail, is what I’ve heard as a dead ringer for cottonmouth
msn23@reddit
Cottonmouth for sure, keep away.
High_Pains_of_WTX@reddit
OP, in the future, zoom in on the head. Head shape tells you everything about a snake.
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
Nope. !headshape
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
Head shape does not reliably indicate if a snake has medically significant venom as This graphic demonstrates. Nonvenomous snakes commonly flatten their heads to a triangle shape in defensive displays, and some elapids like coralsnakes have elongated heads. It's far more advantageous to familiarize yourself with venomous snakes in your area through photos and field guides or by following subreddits like /r/whatsthissnake than it is to try to apply any generic trick.
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Smurf_turd@reddit
I’m in the not a cotton mouth camp. Wouldn’t bet enough to touch it but that’s my 2 cents
Ridiculicious71@reddit
A diamond shaped head always means poison. That said, it should not bother you unless you bother it.
TheGreenRaccoon07@reddit
Nope (even though this snake is a venomous cottonmouth). See the bot reply to !headshape
SEB-PHYLOBOT@reddit
Head shape does not reliably indicate if a snake has medically significant venom as This graphic demonstrates. Nonvenomous snakes commonly flatten their heads to a triangle shape in defensive displays, and some elapids like coralsnakes have elongated heads. It's far more advantageous to familiarize yourself with venomous snakes in your area through photos and field guides or by following subreddits like /r/whatsthissnake than it is to try to apply any generic trick.
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nexea@reddit
Thats not accurate. If you want to learn more about snakes, try r/whatsnakeisthis. Ive learned so much there!
Op this looks like a Northern Cottonmouth, but to be sure, Id post it to the snake group.
Impossible-Try-9161@reddit
That there's the venomous Cottonmouth.
You_DontKnowMyLife@reddit
This looks like a banded water snake. Not venomous.
Mashalot@reddit
That’s a Western Cottonmouth aka Water Moccasin. Thick, dark body, triangular head, yellowish color underneath.
Low_Yam_4761@reddit
Those are called Danger Noodles.
RigoGRANDE@reddit
I'm in DFW too. If you're on Facebook there's a great Facebook group that can help identify snakes. Search for "What kind of snake is this? North Texas Educational Group" if you're interested. The admins are very helpful, and there are even some who can relocate if you need.
Beavis09@reddit
Slithering like he own the place
Actually_R0bin@reddit
Not sayin OP needs to hear this, but dear reader, if you see a snake and don’t recognize it it’s venomous or not…
LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!!
Best case of a bite you walk away re-learning that a threatened creature is an aggressive one.
Worst case you die a very painful death because you didn’t realize what it was. Maybe they have an anti-venom and treat you in time or maybe they don’t.
1Freeport@reddit
Cottonmouth AKA Water Moccasin
mylightisalamp@reddit
Hey download inaturalist, it’s an app that helps you ID any living organism and you’ll have conversations like this on there, but just more niche specific nature nerds
Dad_Bod_All_Day@reddit
Shovel target ! And 2 pieces …. 🤷♂️
TacosAndSarcasm@reddit
That is a well fed cottonmouth
If you ever have another occasion where you need to identify a snake r/whatsthissnake has experts that will help they're fantastic
FrogyyB@reddit
What did ai say?
Comprehensive_Win200@reddit
That right there is the species called "Nope Ropes" and they got fangs FYI
champagne_sup@reddit
Yeah no thanks 🙂↔️
engx_ninja@reddit
Which park?)
ummkay_ultra@reddit
I've killed enough cottonmouth/water moccasins to say that is one.
MochiHugs@reddit
That thing blends in way too well with the grass. Gotta be some kind of copperhead, I'd stay back
rick6426422@reddit
Get ready, I remember walking Andy brown as a kid in early summer and seeing 20+ snakes making their way across the pavement. No idea if it’s a mating/season thing
Ok_Unit_4099@reddit
Throw it against the wall. If it sticks it’s a slug, if not it’s a snake
ribbitribbitmf@reddit
Pretty sure it's a danger noodle, so if it sticks to the wall that means the scary scetti is done cooking
HighPlainsDrifter79@reddit
water moccasin, venomous.
Neoxenok@reddit
That there is a nope rope.
ribbitribbitmf@reddit
danger noodle
REDDWOOD9@reddit
Texas Rat Snake
texasbob2025@reddit
Not 100% sure its a cotren mouth but sure enough that im not touching it or getting close to it.
hourefugee@reddit
You can post to Southeast Texas Snake ID on Facebook, looks like a water snake to me, doesn’t have the cottonmouth brow or lines.
Regardless if you need it to move somewhere, spray it with a hose. All snakes are friends and the reason most people get bit is trying to mess with them.
VeganWerewolf@reddit
It’s a bull snake and it’s not venomous
electricjesus88@reddit
Bull shit
Gloomy_Spell_9835@reddit
Water Moccasin
Southguy_@reddit
Cottonmouth ! Venomous
CherryPickens@reddit
Pretty sure that’s a water snake. Totally harmless.
CherryPickens@reddit
Pretty sure that’s a water snake. Totally harmless.
Edit: my bad. That’s a Danger noodle.
PantherCityRes@reddit
Not at all...that is a water moccasin, aka a Cotton Mouth.
bakedbats@reddit
Oh what a beaut of a cottonmouth!! Always wanted to see these guys irl! He was very aware of you lol he might not have been aggressive then, but I know if you got close you would've seen that mouth OPEN and him telling you to eff off lol
EducationalMilk4170@reddit
FWIW I am casting my bet that it’s a water moccasin. The horizontal markings under the eyes are *usually* a tell tale sign.
Exciting_Cat730@reddit
Plain-bellied Water Snake
rodCinder@reddit
Rat snake .. maybe?
richbomb98@reddit
The snake appears to be a cottonmouth, also known as a water moccasin, which is venomous. They are common in the southeastern United States and prefer wet or semi-aquatic habitats.
KM964@reddit
It’s a nope.
sunny-jam@reddit
Post it to “What kind of snake is this North Texas Educational Group” on Facebook. The experts on there are super helpful and fast with an answer
Minimum_Society_69@reddit
This is a Diamondback Water Snake. It’s not a cotton mouth. The big tell for me is the eyes. The labial bars also help.
malletgirl91@reddit
Just so you’re aware, venomous does not mean aggressive. Venomous snakes would much rather save that venom for food not for us. Most species only bite as a last resort when they feel threatened and have nowhere to run. As a first resort, if they can, they’ll run. If they can’t run, they try to look big and scary and show a threat display to scare you away. If you aren’t scared away, then they’ll bite.
Not saying they are perfectly safe obviously, but for the most part they don’t see us as food and want nothing to do with us. They’re more scared of us than we are of them.
Even though elapids have the deadliest venom, more people get bitten by colubrids. Colubrids rely on camouflage so unsuspecting people will accidentally step on them (or come close to it), which hurts and startles the snake causing it to bite.
El_alacran214@reddit
Looks like a killer for sure 😨
cro_aero@reddit
Beautiful water moccasin. He’ll let you know if he’s threatened. They’re overall pretty gentle, but if he coils up and shows you his white mouth, just walk away, avoiding his head. I assume you found him near a body of water… he’s just sun bathing.
drooply@reddit
No doubt this snake and his buddies were drinking heavily on a Friday and one of them dared this one to pose in front of a camera as it’s been an ongoing rumor amongst the snake community that there are people who will snap a picture of you and make you famous. Imagine the look on his buddies faces when he returned. This one is obviously posing, too.
Ok_Broccoli_8143@reddit
Thats not even a snake
OldMcMittens@reddit
He has such a cute grumpy looking face in that first photo
Dallas_till_i_croak@reddit
Diamondback water snake
justrigt08@reddit
You sure about that?
Dallas_till_i_croak@reddit
No. OP should pet it
justrigt08@reddit
Classic rule: if it bites you and you die, venomous.
noncongruent@reddit
And if you bite it and you die, poisonous.
pmmeurbassethound@reddit
He's gotta start now if he wants to make the HEB grand opening.
86Sliva94@reddit
Which park?
Nothing93124@reddit
That’s Steve, he cranky since his wife left, so leave him alone.
emzim@reddit
This is definitely a cottonmouth. The chin, body shape, and pattern are all consistent with
VegetableMistake6898@reddit
Danger noodle!!!!
CaptainDubiski@reddit
Obviously a cottonmouth. Water snakes don't look as similar as people think
GravitationalEddie@reddit
Is snek. Stand back and watch snek go away. Encourage snek to go away, especially towards away from you and others. Do not act like fren. Act line snek need to go away. Everything will be okay.
Sea_Of_Phones@reddit
Google lens.....
Technology, ever heard of it?
Phyrnosoma@reddit
Cottonmouth, Agkistrodon piscivorous. Venomous and best admired from a distance
chouse951@reddit
Idk…fuckers got his head raised like he’s thinking about being aggressive.
USNorsk@reddit
It’s a Coppellhead.
Cansum1helpme@reddit
Local politician - snake
Meta-Closet@reddit
According to AI, it’s a water snake
Alivaronas@reddit
So definitely not a water snake then.
aguila1915@reddit
Based on this thread it’s either completely harmless or incredibly deadly.
Bravo, internet.
SimpleSimon665@reddit
Definitely a water moccasin. Very dangerous
nickgomez@reddit
It’s not the Grand Prairie cobra
abbyabb@reddit
Post this to the snake ID sub. I'm usually pretty good at identifying between water snakes and cottonmouths, but I'm struggling with this one.
I don't see the eye mask/shadow that cottonmouths typically have.
The eyes are giving more colubrid over pit viper. (most snakes belong to the colubrid family, generally not venomous or their venom is not significant to humans. The venomous snakes found in the Dallas area are either pitvipers (cottonmouth, copper head, rattlesnakes) or coral snakes).
I see a more pixelated pattern near the snakes belly, which makes me think more cottonmouth.
The shape of the snake seems more cottonmouth than watersnake. It has a more teardrop shape rather than a more rounded shape.
Either way, you won't come across a snake here that will try and attack you unprovoked. It might bite if you step on it by accident. It might bite if you mess with it. If you ever need a snake to move, just spray it with water.
nexea@reddit
Im not seeing any labia bars that would be on a banded or plain belly watersnake. It is a bit hard to see, but I think I see a faint pixilated pattern, the ridge above the eye and maybe an eye band, but that might be a shadow. I think the belly pattern is right for a cottonmouth.
tatsontatsontats@reddit
I don't think u/serpentarian browses the Dallas sub, but they're the pro
MacRapalicious@reddit
If it bites you and you die please let us know
kakacon@reddit
it’s a cottonmouth
cluelessinlove753@reddit
Venomous northern cottonmouth, Agkistrodon piscivorus
InternetsIsBoring@reddit
That ain't nothing but a daddy long legs. Sans the legs
BradyCakes5150@reddit
Sidewinder
hatecirclejerks@reddit
Looks like a friend to me.
longhairPapaBear@reddit
Coral copper water rattler.
FutureMrFixYoHeart@reddit
that sh*t right there look like a lizard
The_Texas_Cuban@reddit
Both Claude and Google Lens say Cotton Mouth
Broken_Frizzen@reddit
Cotton mouth
EreshkigalKish2@reddit
Nice snake
gr0uchyMofo@reddit
Alabama Black Snake
joebat219@reddit
Learn more what its a snake stay away from
juliximab@reddit
Either a danger noodle or a nope rope
ThatGuyFTW1@reddit
Cottonmouth, venemous.
Current_Decision_217@reddit
You should've picked it up
OKTimeFor_PlanB@reddit
Can't quite tell, but the sudden shrink of its tail leads me to think moccasin.
Different-Nobody4228@reddit
Nope rope. Danger noodle.
Wafflehouseofpain@reddit
It looks similar to a cottonmouth but the head doesn’t look right. Best to treat with caution.
cmcosmos@reddit
That head looks cottonmouthy to me. And pic 2, he's def giving side-eye. Not yer friend.
mmarc76@reddit
Cottonmouth, that's bad boy
harley_jarvis@reddit
I agree cottonmouth
PlantOG@reddit
Harmless eastern rat snake.
EvanOnTheFly@reddit
Cottonmouth likely. Beware!