Help me pick a Graphics Card! First build, new builder.
Posted by WhisperingBlume888@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 40 comments
This is my very first build, I’m hoping you’ll give me your opinion on a new graphics card. I really appreciate it.
Here’s my parts list:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mm4bHW
My budget is around $700-1000 (I’d like to stay around $500-800 range if possible)
It’s a white build. I like the look of the MSI 5 series in white but I’m open to others (especially since I can’t find the MSI 5070 at retail for some reason).
I’ll be upgrading my power supply as well as adding one more set of fans. I was considering just adding 2 more fans at the bottom and a Corsair RM850 for the power supply. It’s only $130 and small enough to fit in my case. (Also open to other options for this).
Thank you!
Eat-Playdoh@reddit
You need an RTX 6000 PRO, anything less isn't worth doing 👍
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
What’s the difference between this and the 9070? A lot of people are recommending it
Eat-Playdoh@reddit
I'm just fucking with you 😅
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
I am 1000% gullible 😭🤭🙃🫣
Eat-Playdoh@reddit
Here's a quick breakdown of the naming conventions from lowest to highest:
NVIDEA cards (most recent series):
RTX 5050 - 8 GB vram - 💩
RTX 5060 - 8 GB vram - tight budget / entry level card
RTX 5060ti - 16 GB vram - mid tier 1080p/can do 1440p resolution gaming at lower settings
RTX 5070 - 12 GB vram - 1440p on a reasonable budget
RTX 5070ti - 16 GB vram - top of the midrange with a very comfortable amount of vram
RTX 5080 - 20 GB vram - high end card (4k gaming decent fps at high settings)
RTX 5090 - 32 GB vram - enthusiast card (overkill, if you don't know why you'd need it you probably don't, also good luck finding one at a reasonable price)
(VRAM is how much memory the card has, higher resolutions require more vram, but excess vram won't make your card faster. It's a threshhold, either you have enough or you don't (higher quality settings or a higher resolution = need more vram. More vram MIGHT mean that if in the future you want to play games requiring more vram you'll have it on hand (i wouldn't worry about that though))
AMD Cards (most recent series):
AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT - 16 GB vram - high end card (4k entry point, at high settings might be able to pull 60fps)
AMD Radeon RX 9070 - 16 GB vram - high/upper midrange card
AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT - 16 GB Vram - budget/midrange card, decent (comparable performance than a 5060ti 8gb version but with more vram) high settings 1080p resolution, can do 1440p.
I would recommend getting the cheapest AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT you can find (don't worry too much about the aftermarket brand, (companies buy gpu's from nvidea then "trick them out" and put fancy fans on them, it's the same gpu with different cooling features on them). It will be inside your budget of $500-800. You should be able to find one around $750 ish. The reason is it is comparable to the NVIDEA 5070ti in performance, and has the same amount of VRAM, but is about 250 dollars cheaper.
Now, the difference between NVIDEA and AMD for someone like you (novice at computer building), is that NVIDEA is like buying an iPhone, and AMD is like buying an Android phone. There are some bells and whistles that the android might not have but you get more bang for your buck. An iPhone you'll end up paying a hefty premium for equivalent performance, or end up spending with an inferior model compared to the competition while having the same budget.
To be more specific NVIDEA cards are better at raytracing (light reflections), but I suspect that that won't matter as much to you as someone who's just getting into building their first desktop. I think you would be happier with the greater performance per dollar you'll get out of an AMD card, it will give your build more longevity than if you stepped down to a NVIDEA card with less power to stay within your budget.
NOTE: this recommendation for a gpu is solely based on your budget and not the other components you've selected. I have not reviewed your posted build. BUT regardless of your other components (assuming your case is atleast big enough to hold the gpu) I would still recommend the 9070 XT regardless, because if you ever want to upgrade other components in your desktop you can always move the gpu into the new build, or over to a different desktop.
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
This is so incredibly helpful genuinely thank you!
Eat-Playdoh@reddit
You're welcome dickhead 🫶 have a nice weekend 😘
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
The “your welcome di*khead” is wild haha
Vortrexion@reddit
The 9070XT is arguably better than the RTX 5070 in terms of performance. You should also be using DDR5 instead of DDR4, and I gave you a CPU that would be better at gaming. Unless you're in a specific niche that requires the additional RAM, 64GB is unnecessary for most people. Didn't include a PSU, just choose something that's 850W+ and isn't the cheapest thing you could fine.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GLKfPf
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
Someone mentioned to me that I can’t use ddr5 unless I get a new motherboard, is that true?
Vortrexion@reddit
That is indeed true, hence why I added a different motherboard as well. Made it a somewhat white board to match the current aesthetic.
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
I am doing digital art in the PC hence why someone recommended more RAM. Is that a niche example or do you think it’s fine without. I mostly do streaming and digital art on my PC and video editing.
Vortrexion@reddit
Is there any actual gaming that would be done on this PC, or would it primarily be for work? If so, I'd actually switch my CPU suggestion so it isn't gaming focused and more productivity based.
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
It’s mostly gaming and streaming said games, with digital art as a hobby. It’s gaming focused mostly
Vortrexion@reddit
One last thing, when you mention digital art and video editing, will you be editing in 4K, or is it going to be mainly in 1080P? Is digital art going to be on a 2D or 3D canvas? Both of these would effect the amount of RAM you would potentially need.
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
Some is 4k most is 1080, most is 2D minor 3D playing around and learning.
Vortrexion@reddit
Should honestly be fine with 32GB right now then, if you want you could get a 48GB kit, but it'll cost a pretty penny. To answer your other question, AIO stands for All In One cooler, which is your CPU cooler that has 3 fans on it.
Vortrexion@reddit
Additional research could definitely find a cheaper pair of monitors and maybe a cheaper AIO, but it's personally up to you.
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
What is an AIO? Sorry, new to this.
wolfieman217@reddit
That's your CPU cooler. AIO in this context refers to an all in one water cooler.
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
Thank you 🙏🏻
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
My case can fit a bigger motherboard as well, it was a mistake actually that I got a mini, would you have any recs for if I ever upgrade my motherboard to one that would fit well in the case?
johnd_224@reddit
Don't get retail windows 11, don't get 64gb of ram get just one kit 2x16gb and get 3200mts not 3600 it will run at your CPUs native speed if I am not mistaken and it will be cheaper lastly, the 3060 ti is a bit of a weak point with this CPU. You could get a better gpu with a lesser CPU
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
I already have these things, my first build is what’s linked. I’m looking to fine tune and upgrade a little bit. Starting with a graphics card and power supply and maybe adding some fans. Later potentially the motherboard and RAM and CPU.
dimetyltryptaminn@reddit
Rx 9070 xt
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
If you don’t mind me picking your brain a bit, what do you like about this that makes it a good fit for the build? I’m new and learning
dimetyltryptaminn@reddit
In 500-800$ price range id say most will recommend u a 9070XT
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
Is there a brand that people like for this? I see a lot of brands I’m not familiar with.
Mravac_Kid@reddit
I've had various Sapphire cards over the past 20 years and I was quite happy with them. Sadly, the Sapphire Nitro (their top range) is way more expensive than other comparable cards.
dimetyltryptaminn@reddit
Its newest gen amd card, competes with Rtx 5070 ti in raw performance, but its 200$ cheaper than rtx 5070 ti. And propably 30% faster than normal rtx 5070. Good bang for buck 👍🏻 also has 16gb vram
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
Oh thank you so much 😊
dimetyltryptaminn@reddit
No problem. Also works fine with ur 5800X if u game on 1440p
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
Thank you I was worried mostly about that compatibility!
dimetyltryptaminn@reddit
Np. 850w 80+ gold modular psu would be good, 750w even but why not get 850w since its equal in price
Montech century II 850w 80+ gold modular
Corsair RMe 850w 80+ gold modular
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
Thank you! For some reason the bottom of the case is very tight fitting for a power supply, so I’m hoping they fit! I’ll check these out 💚💚💚
dimetyltryptaminn@reddit
Add ur case and that psu on pcpartpicker, it will show if the psu fits. That case looks pretty big, but check maximum gpu length too
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
Oh perfect! What is GPU length? The actual length of the graphics card itself?
Mravac_Kid@reddit
In your budget range the RX 9070XT is the best choice, as it competes with the much more expensive 5070Ti. However, I'd recommend a regular RX 9070, slightly less powerful than the 9070XT but much cheaper, and a fair bit more powerful than the 5070 for not much more money.
WhisperingBlume888@reddit (OP)
Thank you for the rec!
Bichaelcycle@reddit
get a 9070XT
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RFsMnQ/xfx-quicksilver-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-97tqickw9
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/j8gZxr/gigabyte-gaming-oc-ice-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-gv-r907xgamingocice-16gd
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/L9nXsY/yeston-sakura-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx9070xt-16gd6-oc-sa