If every Balkan country was a house in Game of Thrones, what would be its motto?
Posted by Fun-Wealth6537@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 183 comments
Glittering-Poet-2657@reddit
I like how almost no one answered the actual question and instead just started deciding which country is most like which house.
_-Event-Horizon-_@reddit
Bulgaria would be the dothraki.
Erozbey@reddit
Turkey, which has conquered it all, lost it all to rebellions, and longs to return to its former glory, would undoubtedly be the House Targaryen.
Amazing-Eggplant-346@reddit
Respectfully i cant connect Turkey with any form of glory or any ideal that even hypocritically seems like honour. Turkey's only "quality" is genocide historically. Doing Ethnic cleansing everywhere you go removes respect from your images it does add it. Again i am speaking historically. I dont have any issues against Turkey. I would really love if someone could point me to anything that that country has offered to this planet. I have search through so many historical books and talked to so many Turkish people yet the only thing they had to say is their food which none of their examples were turkish... honestly i am truly wondering at this point is there anything else than genocide that Turkey has to offer to this planet?
chrstianelson@reddit
Then Romania is Winterfell.
Tasty_Leading_3221@reddit
Yes, yes!
Winter is coming!
ZinbaluPrime@reddit
And Bulgaria will be the Lanisters. Betraying bastards that seek only gold and their own personal gain.
And drinking and brothels.
sylasnord@reddit
That sounds a lot like Serbians lmao
Ashckroft@reddit
He skipped history classes
OkCheesecake5894@reddit
We are the coldest one so I guess it's fitting we'd get "Winter is coming"
chrstianelson@reddit
Also the largest one.
And Winterfell's semi-autonomy relates well to Wallachia being a vassal rather than fully conquered I think, that is if we're going by the Ottoman analogy as proposed.
urbanOutlaw04@reddit
Nah Riverlands in much more fitting. Always invaded by foreigners.
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
Turkey would be Essos not a house and not targaryans😂😂
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
Targaryans are conquerors from Essos, so that fits Turkey tbh
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
They were from Essos 1000s of years ago ,Turkey would fit the actual part of Essos
taloschat@reddit
Turks were from essos(east asia) 1000+ years ago then settled cenral asia ans settled anatolia in 1070s-1300s.
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
Turks are dotrhaki people froma actual essos
tabulasomnia@reddit
trying a bit hard to distance yourself from turks, aren't you
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
What do you mean?
tabulasomnia@reddit
a family that came from far lands and settled in your continent, conquered all the lands but lost its former glory -> "can't be turks"
horse people -> "must be turks!"
\^this is you
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
“George R.R. Martin has stated the Dothraki are an amalgamation of Huns, Mongols, Alans, Turks, and Native American tribes (Sioux/Cheyenne).”
The author of the book also says but you wann be targaryen😂
This is you😂
tabulasomnia@reddit
look up "death of the author" some time
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
What??😂
Prudent_Station_3912@reddit
ananim amina fit etsin oe. oryantal fantazini skiim senin
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
No intiendo
Erozbey@reddit
Essos is Asia. It is home to many nations and tribes. The Targaryens were originally from here. They conquered Westeros. Their ties to Essos weakened over time, but they never forgot it. The Turks are true Targaryens.
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
they are not ,they are dothraki or people from actual essos not Targaryans
Erozbey@reddit
The Dothraki are actually Mongols.
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
Turkic and Mongols share the same origins
Erozbey@reddit
This is a common myth. Even if it were true, the Turks are the most distant from their Asian roots among the Turkic peoples. But you know what? Let’s just say the Turks aren’t Targaryens. I’m curious to know who you think the Targaryens are.
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
None really fits but I would say Croatians
Independent_Ad9839@reddit
For what reason tho?
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
The primary is ofcourse landscape ,the mos iconical scenes of Danaerys were filmed there,the struggle to remain autonomous ,value their bloodline
Onzii00@reddit
Turkey also is similar to the Targs with the whole cousin marriage history.
Ok-Exchange2711@reddit
Conquerors who came from the East to unite petty kingdoms under one banner — Turkey aligns with the Targs on that quite a lot
labubufxgg0t@reddit
But it won’t fit in their orientalist fantasy 😬😬 They will say Turkey is ghiscari or whatever cuz it fits their narrative more
WorkerPlayful4192@reddit
For me Turkey is Dorn.
Kralqeikozkaptan@reddit
dorn didnt conquer all of westeros
callmeblastoid@reddit
Invaded from a different continent as well
ArkHystory99@reddit
Croatia would be House Nymeros Martell.
In the same way that the Targaryens never managed to conquer Dorne (they only managed to integrate it into the kingdom through marriage), the Ottomans never managed to conquer Croatia.
Beautiful-Dish-6275@reddit
Idk much about gotr, but croatia would be something related to money.
Glittering-Poet-2657@reddit
Here’s a fun fact for you, one of the major settings in the show is a city called Kings Landing, and the scenes that take place there are filmed in Dubrovnik.
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
House Lannister? They're very rich
iVar4sale@reddit
No way, we never pay our debts
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
Hahaha then house Rayne fits more😂
Affectionate_Mud1091@reddit
Don't know but Bulgaria is most definetly Blackfyres. "We bore the sword" and tried to take something that we thought was ours and failed 5 times.
Sensitive-Basis-6885@reddit
Greece is the reverse Lannister
We never pay our debts
AffenandieMacht8@reddit
😂
Proof-Ad62@reddit
Well it's not like the European powers haven't been trying their best to keep Greece in debt ever since it was founded as a country. Even the first governments were given huuuge loans after the Ottoman Empire collapsed.
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
That means house Rayne
Specialist_Juice879@reddit
Lmao
Andre_ev@reddit
Montenegro like fishing let’s be those that do not sow, how it named?
EntertainerMajor627@reddit
Montenegrinis do not sow, because when they wake up they need to sit down and rest from all the hard work they did.
apparat07@reddit
Kosovo????
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
actually, I'm sorry about that. I just didn't notice
apparat07@reddit
Well they're not recognized by all countries anyways so they're used to it. 😄
wiglafofpinwick@reddit
Greece = Tyrell. The Reach is the fertile, wealthy, and culturally sophisticated place in Westeros, it's home to the Citadel and the continent's ancient history from here creates crazy soft-power. Also a bit gay.
Turkey = Targaryen. Came from the east as the foreigners to the land, conquered all. Slowly assimilated and lost their resemblance to their ancestors. Their fall created a power vacuum.
Romania = Stark. Relatively massive lands in the north, with Carpathian Mountains. Also I don't know much about them lol.
Bosnia = Tully. A central region defined by its rivers, lacking highly defensible natural borders, and consequently serving as the tragic, perpetual battleground for the larger surrounding powers.
Croatia = Greyjoy. Large Dalmatian coast. Formidable naval powers like Republic of Ragusa/Dubrovnik and also coastal piracy operations (the Uskoks).
Albania = Martell. A different ethnic background (Rhoynar) than the rest of Westeros, similar to Albanians with a distinct ethnolinguistic isolate in the region (neither Slavic nor Hellenic).
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
Albanians different ethnic background??cool story bro
wiglafofpinwick@reddit
Dude read it again, Albanians are not Rhoynar right? I thought it's similar in a sense that their linguistic origins being unique in the region.
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
No dude Rhynurs are from Essos ,linguisically slavic and greek are also unique to themeselves ,if someone has to be from Essos are some Slavs and Pontic/Anatolian Greeks
wiglafofpinwick@reddit
Rhoynars are not from Essos, they are Westerosi origin with Andals and the First Men.
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
No they are from Essos ,this applies perfectly to Greece as many other stated because they also established a grand civilisation unlike Albania
wiglafofpinwick@reddit
Oh I thought wrong then. Thank you!
Punkmo16@reddit
Turkey - Targaryen
Greece - Martell
Slovenia - Arryn
Croatia - Greyjoy
Montenegro - Lannister
Romania - Stark
Albania - Baratheon
Serbia - Tyrell
Bosnia - Riverlands
WorkerPlayful4192@reddit
What about Bulgaria?
Cefalopodul@reddit
House Velaryon
ZinbaluPrime@reddit
The central Balkans does not exist. Or simply we're so boring nobody cares about us.
Punkmo16@reddit
There is no great house left in the Westeros.
LibertyChecked28@reddit
Gone, reduced to atoms
OkBag8209@reddit
turkey is starks
Cefalopodul@reddit
"Corruption is coming"
ayayayamaria@reddit
Barely anyone has understood the question. It's "what would be your words if you country was a GoT house?", not "which GoT house would your country be?"
amazingamy19@reddit
Yeah, people genuinely answering what they want lol
Early-Show2886@reddit
Ada Kaleh = ''Ottoman Atlantis of the Danube''
Cold_Inflation_839@reddit
I wonder what would be the gypsies then.. 🤔
puppydogeEyes@reddit
Albania = House of Stark, hardy, honest and always the frontier against invasions (Skenderbeg) but hot tempered
Greece = Lannisters, glory & superiority complex but broke af and untrustworthy
Turkey = Targaryens, foreign invaders in the past and now are kind of just… there
Serbia = white walkers
Maximus_Dominus@reddit
Yes, the country known for its organized crime is the epitome of honest…
Ujemegaz@reddit
After the 90s. Before communism Albania was known for Cannon law, Besa and such. Times change.
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
Can’t criminals be also honest??
Bacciamo le mani😅😅😂😂
puppydogeEyes@reddit
Like every other Balkan country…? Pot and kettle?
Besides, we literally have besa.
True-Blacksmith4235@reddit
This is the wildest thing i ever read. 😂
fosixbarbar@reddit
İstanbul would be kings landing
FigRich2268@reddit
Maybe house Arryn?
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
Where are you from?
FigRich2268@reddit
Slovenia
Pipimer@reddit
Mainland Greece would be Dorne and The islands the Free cities
amazingamy19@reddit
Why are people saying we are Lannisters.
We are textbook Baratheons 😭
Lvl100Centrist@reddit
Turkey: Targaryens, though it sounds funny.
Greece: House Lannister. Rich history, arrogant, feelings of cultural superiority and viewing other culture as inferior. Also more handsome
North Macedonia: Hill tribes beyond the Vale.
Serbia: Maybe house Baratheon? Loud, proud and see themselves as wronged by everyone
Romania: House Stark probably? Forests, cold (for balkan standards) and gloomy
Albania: Greyjoys. Not because of the sea but because they are clan based, distinct and weird in their own way. Nobody else really likes them
Slovenia: House Arryn. Hurr durr we are not really balkan
RomuloMalkon68@reddit
Serbia definitely fits Baratheon. Considering they first started rebeling against Turks and were the one of their biggest enemies when the rebellion started. They also formed Yugoslavia with other kingdoms and they were the leading country, just like Baratheons were for decades after the rebellion.
RevolutionaryFeed259@reddit
Greece and paying off the debts? Come on now :D
Lvl100Centrist@reddit
I mean we have been paying our "loans" since 1827. We still do. If you look at European history, Greece seems like a good country to lend money to
Antique_Birthday6380@reddit
Isn’t this the same for all other Balkan countries, including Greece?
Prudent_Station_3912@reddit
greek and handsome l? lol
Lvl100Centrist@reddit
you are just jealous
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
That was funny actually😂😂
WorkerPlayful4192@reddit
What about Bulgaria?
Next_League6403@reddit
Turkey ''We Do Not Sow''
iheartloud420@reddit
Serbia baratheon, croatia lannister, montenegro or bosnia would be the Vale, albania martell, bulgaria is tyrell, turks targs as theyre foreign invaders and greece would fit for greyjoys because of the sea but they dont fit culturally, montenegro could be greyjoys too
iheartloud420@reddit
Actually greece can be martell because theyre dark skinned and gay
Pipimer@reddit
Yea or the free cities
iheartloud420@reddit
Oh yeah forgot about those completely, def most greek ones
Pipimer@reddit
Some islands like Rhodes is almost Bravos, Santorini and Mykonos can be the Summer Isles and so on
YourNormaMinecrafter@reddit
It is our fantasy to be rich so... If it was based on terrain I'd say the vale would fit us more.
iheartloud420@reddit
Idk i picked that because youre culturally more different than the rest but i think greece is better fit for martell as i said in another comment
YourNormaMinecrafter@reddit
From what I've seen all balkan countries have 80%-85% the same culture... so lets all agree we live in flea bottom 🗿
Adept-One-4632@reddit
Romania would be The North. Not just because of geographic reasons but because we feel different from the other balkan nations.
We are latin speakers, others are mostly slavic
Huxx007@reddit
What about Portugal?
RomuloMalkon68@reddit
Portugal valeryan
True-Blacksmith4235@reddit
Dorne
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
lucienlazar@reddit
Valid for all: Your stolen car is probably here.
kaiser_vfe@reddit
After going through so many wars, being so glorious and reaching what many nations couldn't - I believe Bulgaria would "Fire and blood". Either way in the end we got f-ed, yet we remain as one of the greats in history.
papadubizorz840@reddit
Chill. Not only Bulgaria fought many wars and came out victorious.
You should have been fucked even more considering the fact you were on Nazi side in second world war. And on the German side in the first world war.
kaiser_vfe@reddit
Well thing is that most Balkan countries had happy end, while Bulgaria didn't. I would add Serbia to that but still
This_Lion5856@reddit
If anything, no one really had a happy end. Every country in the Balkans is fucked in various different ways
iheartloud420@reddit
Yeah only bulgaria went through many wars lol
WorkerPlayful4192@reddit
Bulgaria is Riverlands.
MyPlantsDieSometimes@reddit
Naa man, iron islands. We be going raiding every summer until the herb emperor got to us.
crnecarape@reddit
Nope, Riverlands (backstabbers 😂)
No hard feelings, it's just for fun
WorkerPlayful4192@reddit
😂
mosa_kota@reddit
🇭🇷 Croatia — “We’ll Invoice You.” 🇷🇸 Serbia — “Historically Ours.” 🇧🇦 Bosnia — “Complicated Since Forever.” 🇲🇪 Montenegro — “Tomorrow, Maybe.” 🇸🇮 Slovenia — “We’re Not Balkan.” 🇲🇰 North Macedonia — “Please Update Your Maps.” 🇦🇱 Albania — “The Mercedes Remembers.” 🇧🇬 Bulgaria — “One More Emigrant.” 🇷🇴 Romania — “Your Wallet Is Safe… Probably.” 🇬🇷 Greece — “Send Another Bailout.” 🇹🇷 Turkey — “Formerly Everyone’s Problem.” 🇽🇰 Kosovo — “Recognize This.” 🇭🇺 Hungary — “Brussels Sends Ravens.” 🇲🇩 Moldova — “Still Has Wine.” 🇨🇾 Cyprus — “Buffer Zone Eternal.”
Sensitive-Emu1@reddit
Bosnia — “Complicated Since Forever.”
North Macedonia — “Please Update Your Maps.”
Turkey — “Formerly Everyone’s Problem.”
Greece — “Send Another Bailout.”
these 4 doesn't sound like a motto. Rest is great, and you are the only person who understands the task.
Mountain-Yard-928@reddit
Best answer by far
Prudent_Station_3912@reddit
only comment actual answering op s question. al the others trying to match houses to countries :facepalm:
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
"Recognise this" is diabolical 😂🥀
mm19761976@reddit
Lord-Francis-Bacon@reddit
Turkey obv Targaryen
MinimumArt8781@reddit
Well... there's no doubt Romania would be the North. Lol
CarobOk8979@reddit
The first to stand against the Russian wildlings. Also the wolf is a symbol we have inherited from the Dacians
MinimumArt8781@reddit
Arguably the second to stand, my guess is the Ukrainians are the wildlings lol (no offense and all the love for them, heroes!)
CarobOk8979@reddit
My bad, Russians are the White Walkers
WagwanMoist@reddit
Perfect. Similar to the White Walkers they don't care about casualties. Just raise more poor soldiers/undead and send them to the meat grinder.
MinimumArt8781@reddit
White walkers on scooters and Chinese golf carts
MinimumArt8781@reddit
Exactly
Best-Pollution7110@reddit
Too much truth here
WinterSnake16@reddit
Romania - The North
Turkey - Targaryens
Greece - Dorne
Bulgaria - Reach
Serbia - Lannisters Westerlands
Croatia - Baratheons Stormlands
Bosnia - Riverlands
Albania - Grejoys
Slovenia - Vale
Hidrogen_Cosic@reddit
Serbia is House Baratheon, conquered half of the balkans quckly, then lost it all quckly, twice.
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
sounds more like The Greyjoys
Hidrogen_Cosic@reddit
Greyjoys have the sea, the baratheon mainline was also highjacked by lanisters posing as baratheons, just like serbian giverment was hijacked ny montenegrins, bosniaks, and croats posung as serbs
Iamjustashade@reddit
Romania is the North. Bordering with the free people (Ukraine) and what’s after? Yep.. white walkers
Worth_Concentrate472@reddit
🤣🤣
Best-Pollution7110@reddit
Kosovo = Bran Stark, Bran the broken, Three-Eyed Raven, becomes the King
Dragons = America, melted the Iron Throne
Signal_Intention6774@reddit
Greece would Valyria cause they are the true inheirtors of Romes legacy in the Modern world. Turkey would the Greens of House Targaryen pretending to be Rome and actually holding alot of territory but losing it to infighting.
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
😂😂😂
PluralCohomology@reddit
The coat of arms of House Celtigar looks like the Croatian one, but with crabs. They don't have any canonical motto though.
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
elite ball knowledge
ATAKURT1453@reddit
turkey = dothraki from essos
because we aren't a balkan nation.our representation must be something other than houses
Best-Pollution7110@reddit
No, the dothraki are the Roma. Turkey is Essos though
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
The Turkish are conquerors from the east, sounds pretty much Targaryen
ATAKURT1453@reddit
targaryen = roman empire
FallopianInvestor@reddit
No bro Turks are Aboriginals aq
Content-Departure-77@reddit
Serbia? Iron Islands.
True-Blacksmith4235@reddit
What islands? We are literally land locked.
Content-Departure-77@reddit
Not by geography but by mentality.
True-Blacksmith4235@reddit
I wish. They are actually more democratic.
Content-Departure-77@reddit
Iron Islands? Definitely. But they are small, sidelined, stubborn and unimportant and all that while daydreaming about their importance and significance in big world.
True-Blacksmith4235@reddit
You literally described almost the entire Balkan.
I would go with Baratheon, considering we’re we are. They have the reputation of being warmongers, got fucked by the Lannisters, lost several wars and i have a Robert type of uncle in the family slava.
Plus we are definitely not the most sidelined country in real life, both in relations and in similarities with others.
Redditor-K@reddit
Why do they call it the seven kingdoms when excluding the Crownlands you have 8 kingdoms for 8 families.
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
Because the Targaryens don't rule Dorne
AlPacino21x_@reddit
Romania - The north
Turkey - Crownlands
Bosnia - Riverlands
Serbia - Westerlands (Lannister)
Albania - Iron islands
Bulgaria - Stormlands
Greece - Dorne
N. Macedonia - Vale
Reach - Croatia
Portugal - some Esos tribe
Slovenia is in Manga fiction
Razvalio@reddit
Which one is the most racist?
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
House Targaryen, I guess
Razvalio@reddit
Then I know which one is Bosnia
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
Wait?! Are the Bosnians racists?!!!
Razvalio@reddit
The whole Balkan is 💪
sajkoterrapefft@reddit
Croatia - Growing strong
Slovenia - We light the way
Bosnia - Ours is the fury
Serbia - Hear me roar
Montenegro - Once joined, Never sundered
Albania - We do not sow
That's all of the balkans I know about. If you know, you know.
Fun-Wealth6537@reddit (OP)
It's crazy how there are no Bosnians in the comments
caesarj12@reddit
We are not wealthier than our neighbors, have nice beaches but no naval power, no powerful army, stubborn. I guess Dorne suits us.
Nazgul_1994@reddit
More like iron islands. No hate.
Bittlegeuss@reddit
"We may or may not repay some of our debts"
urbanOutlaw04@reddit
Riverlands for Romania because of always being invaded by foreigners.
True-Blacksmith4235@reddit
Plus Riverlands is always described as fertile land and a part of Pannonian Plain is in Romania.
FanofTurquoise16@reddit
The Wallachian plain is even more fertile, at least compared to the Western Plains (Romanian part of the Pannonian Plain).
YourNormaMinecrafter@reddit
From what I've seen all balkan countries have 80%-85% the same culture... so lets all agree we live in flea bottom 🗿
Ok-Exchange2711@reddit
North Macedonia Tyrells. Often falsely understimated by its neighbors and uses diplomacy to survive.
Hvac_designer99@reddit
Wrong map you sack of shit. 🇦🇱🇽🇰
Halicos93@reddit
So we Serbs are house Baratheon xD nice!.
HanzDelcev@reddit
Macedonia is definitely the Riverlands.
No matter who is fighting it's always the battefield.
wolfadamm@reddit
Wolf is the symbol of Turks for centuries. So no need to say who its gonna be for the Turks. 🐺
callmeblastoid@reddit
Historically Targaryens
iheartloud420@reddit
Serbia baratheon, croatia lannister, montenegro or bosnia would be the Vale, albania martell, bulgaria is tyrell, turks targs as theyre foreign invaders and greece would fit for greyjoys because of the sea but they dont fit culturally
Key-Performer-357@reddit
Serbia and Albania: Brackens and Blackwoods. Don't care which is which.
True-Blacksmith4235@reddit
Baratheon maybe