Regrets of having kids abroad
Posted by Lauramadouk@reddit | expats | View on Reddit | 119 comments
I just want to rant really, and maybe there is someone who can relate to me? Anyways.
I've been living in Denmark for the past 12 years. My partner is danish, we have two kids who are 12 and 11 years old. We moved here for a better life, better social security and you know the whole,, happiest in the world coutry" etc etc.
12 years have passed and I hate it here. Before I was very social person, easily made friends, but here in Denmark I can't get through the people. The whole communication feels so forced. In 12 years I haven't made a single friend.
My kids are OK in school, I originate from Eastern Europe so I feel like the education is much easier for them here and it's the primary reason I'm staying.
My partner is supporting me to spend time with other people, and even though I'm trying to get out and find like-minded people, I never get past their shell of just being nice.
I feel like I will be stuck here forever and there is no way out. I miss my family, my sibling, food, culture, music, I miss the nature and oh so many more things.
I feel insanely lonely.
But my kids barely speak my language. It would be cruel to move them to a new coutry when they're almost in their teens. My partner would like to move because he can see that my mental health is declining.
But I just can't do that to my kids.
If we stay, they will most likely create their families here, which would force me to stay here because I want to be around them.
If I could choose I would have never done this. It sucks and I realised it too late.
Tldr; I hate it here and I can't leave because of the kids.
Skating_suburban_dad@reddit
Dane who moved to USA.
I would say it depends where you live in Denmark but overall I agree with you. Denmark is safe, clean , orderly….. and boring.
Copenhagen is okay, I got international friends living there they seem to thrive. Rest of Denmark is pretty suburban or outright countryside.
With that said, finding friends in Denmark is not impossible but it takes hard work and engagement. Having two kids and been in Denmark for 12 years without finding a single friend is kinda crazy, not even some of your kid’s friends parents?
Lauramadouk@reddit (OP)
I live in the countryside. My partner prefers countryside. We live in a very small town. I have aquitances, but I wouldn't call them friends. Sure, we hang out in school, talk to each other after legeaftaler etc. But it's far from calling someone a friend. As a female I miss the female energy so much 😭
Skating_suburban_dad@reddit
Yeah okay, sorry. Your partner should have known better
Artichoke-Rhinoceros@reddit
First, how could you not teach them your native tongue??? Ok, I won’t guilt you anymore. I am still mad at my mother, who was fluent in French and conversational in German, but didn’t raise me bilingual (English is my only language, sadly).
Although, if my knowledge of European education isn’t completely obsolete, don’t all students learn 3 languages in school? When I worked with a European team 20 years ago, people from Denmark, Netherlands, France and Italy all said they learned their native language and English, or another European language, from a young age, and then did a third language later on. I was so jealous! Has that changed? I guess it’s been an entire generation since then…I’m old! But if your kids are already multilingual, they can pick up other languages easier than kids who didn’t study languages at a young age. And there are international schools as well.
Ok, back to your situation =). 11 & 12 means middle school, yes? If your kids are happy and thriving with close friendships, and looking forward to “high school” (I know it’s structured a little different over there), maybe discuss with them the possibility of moving back home and see how they feel.
A relative of mine took a year off of work (her company at the time had a sabbatical program where you could take 6 months unpaid off after 10 years and get your same job back, or take a year off, and get the same level of job back, but the position was not guaranteed). She took her two middle school aged kids and hubby and they traveled around the world, doing online school while they went so the kids didn’t fall behind. The kids grumped and were middle schoolers, of course, but it was an amazing experience for them - to see the world first hand, to study history in the places instead of just reading about them, to tour and see the artwork up close and not just in a book. Admittedly, that’s different from what you’re thinking about doing, but maybe you could look at it as an experiment. Plan to go for a year and see how it is, have a plan to return if the kids are miserable, or it’s not what you expected either. Lots of people who leave the U.S. (where I’m from), are homesick, but when they come home, they find they no longer fit in here anymore either, and they end up leaving again.
Whatever you do, life is meant to be lived. There is this movie, a goofy, but poignant romantic comedy, called Strictly Ballroom, from decades ago. The theme running through the movie is “a life lived in fear, is a life half-lived.” Don’t let fear stop you from being bold. If the experiment fails, pick yourself back up, and try something else. Don’t let yourself be stuck in a life you’re not living fully because you fear failure. Fail boldly and with abandon - it’s the only way to find the life you truly want to be living =).
Good luck to you and your family!
Mahi-K-2802@reddit
I am Eastern European living in the Netherlands. I live here almost 10 years and honesty, I kind of feel like you. However I do have friends but majority of them are also immigrants. It’s almost impossible to create friendships in this part of Europe if you haven’t been born here raised here.
When it comes to your children language, don’t you have maybe school that focus only on the language from your country, like Diaspora school in Netherlands. There’s plenty of schools opened by immigrants that only focus on teaching children the language of their parents + culture and history. They usually are weekend schools, maybe you should look for something like that.
Sue-Jones-123456@reddit
OP has not answered that question even though many in this thread have suggested that and other great ideas.
Ok-Let011@reddit
They don't make friends sadly, specially if you are an immigrant. I moved to a new house in Netherlands and I invited my inmediate (left & right) neighbors for dinner and they never got back, a bare smile is only the thing you ca mn expect here. Better make friends (put effort rather) within other immigrants because trying among locals is waste of time.
matches_@reddit
You said you can’t do that to your kids, but have you considered what you’re doing to them by being an unhappy parent? That to me has much bigger consequences.
BlueBambooBird@reddit
I 100% agree with this. Move to your home country. Your partner is already supportive and your kids will be resilient. They have family there too, so won’t be on their own and will pick up the language quickly. Do it before they become adults. It will make you a happier person and thus a better mother.
Crafty_Try_423@reddit
She didn’t say her husband is supportive of moving. She said he’s supportive of her efforts to integrate in Denmark. HUGE difference.
Raneynickel4@reddit
Actually, she did. She literally says "My partner would like to move because he can see that my mental health is declining." HUGE difference when people learn how to read.
Sue-Jones-123456@reddit
lol. Reading comprehension is a thing. But if English is not yoir mother tongue then perhaps more understandable. Many comments in this thread appear to miss the mark that way.
Crafty_Try_423@reddit
Ah good call, I missed that part. Thanks! Yeah then this seems really easy…just…move. Kids adapt.
Crafty_Try_423@reddit
She probably believes she’s faking it well enough. May or may not be true. Kids are very perceptive but they also tend to be very self-centric. If the parents fakes happiness even 50% it can be enough. (I’m not disagreeing with you though…what I actually see in OP’s post and the comments she’s responding to is that she has decided she’s unhappy and is looking for every reason not to make any changes that would fix it. She may be unwilling to broach the subject with her husband, so she’s just internalizing her unhappiness and is venting on Reddit when it gets to be too much. Not really looking for solutions because she’s not ready for the difficult work and discomfort that will entail.)
BlackJuniperDK@reddit
ourvoice.dk
Impossible-Snow5202@reddit
With all of the immigrants from eastern Europe and Turkiye in Denmark, couldn't you make friends with other immigrants from your original country?
Sue-Jones-123456@reddit
She never seems to respond to these reasonable questions. It’d be nice to have more context.
Anitalovestory@reddit
Sounds awful, I am so sorry. It’s easy to make friends in the US.
Gunzhard22@reddit
The common denominator is having kids - it's terrible everywhere in the world.
Sue-Jones-123456@reddit
Like they say “it takes a village to raise a child”. It’s hard to do it without support.
doggirlmoonstar@reddit
Agreed. I had my kid in a different country and life was amazing, best community I ever had (all other expats). Moved back to my home country and couldn’t be more isolated and miserable. Turning up anywhere with kids and trying to make friends from scratch - it just doesn’t happen. You have to know other parents in that country already or you’re outcast.
Crazy-Leopard-1844@reddit
Can you bring your kids to the US for summer and enroll them in a camp or class so they learn more English and stay for a couple months to test it out?
LibrarianByNight@reddit
What? Why? English is taught quite early in folkeskole, but OP isn't even from the US; why would they want to test it out?
Sue-Jones-123456@reddit
Reading comprehension? She’s Eastern European as she says in her opening post.
LibrarianByNight@reddit
Yeah, and wth does that have to do with the US? I can read, thanks.
danielitrox@reddit
OP is from Eastern Europe
Reasonable_Drop_7101@reddit
Pretty sure the kids already have an extremely high level of english if they are enrolled in a danish school
nicktheduke@reddit
6 years in Poland with a 1 year old, no friends, no job opportunities. Worst place I ever lived.
Sue-Jones-123456@reddit
Can you escape?
swampgremlins@reddit
Why is the only other option your own country? Go to a new country so it’s an even playing field for everyone. Your kids will adapt. They can move to Denmark for uni if they miss it.
Megsdoll33@reddit
I second this suggestion! Perhaps a move to a different EU country would be a breath of fresh air for everyone. I’ve worked at international schools for the last 10 years in Spain and have seen lots of families come and go with kids. It’s true that it’s harder if they are older, but kids adjust to it and it can be a very enriching experience for them! In the schools I have worked at, most parents are very welcoming and open to making friends as they are new to the city as well.
HomoFerox_HomoFaber@reddit
American (and also Spaniard for some time now) who has been in Spain 20 years. I don’t work in ESL fields (I’m a lawyer), but this is all true. Spain is fantastic with kids. I can’t even fathom OP’s situation. My heart goes out to her, but it sounds quite culture-specific.
wombatrunner@reddit
I appreciate the idea but the practicality of obtaining a work based visa for another country and also not to have the language impediment she mentioned….way more difficult than is suggested.
breadit124@reddit
They wouldn’t need work based visas to move anywhere in the EU. The husband is a Dane and after 12 years the whole family is I imagine.
Big_NO222@reddit
Oh whatever. I know several successful, well adjusted adults whose parents moved them from one EU country to a different-speaking one in middle or high school and they turned out great. Yes, it's hard at first, but if the family unit is strong and happy, it will pay off much more. And if they stay in the EU, the visa is, of course, a non-issue.
Dont_mind_me69@reddit
No visas needed for EU countries. OP didn’t specify their own nationality, but since their partner is Danish they should be able to move to any country within the EU relatively easily. Language would absolutely still be an issue though.
Lieve_meisje@reddit
You nevee found someone from your country and expat like you to be firme with? Odd
00sunset00@reddit
Not odd at all. Social life is cultural and after years in London coming from the Balkans I have plenty of acquaintances, zero I'd call real friends. Very polite, very staged, lots of performative socialising with 0 authenticity. Over time that becomes very draining.
bluedelvian@reddit
Make friends with other immigrants.
Do I understand correctly that your kids still don't speak fluent Danish after 12 years living there?
Lauramadouk@reddit (OP)
Their main language is danish. They don't speak my native language.
bluedelvian@reddit
Oh I see.
Main-Estate-125@reddit
You do not understand correctly.
watfor@reddit
Sorry about that! As someone that lives in Norway and has lived here for a good 15 years or so, it's the same here.
I have been told that having kids makes it easier to make friends, but I don't have any, and it's "good" to know that, that alone doesn't change anything.
I have seen people that move from a different part of the country struggle with making friends in later life, so it would seem that this is not a uncommon complaint across all kinds of barriers.
T1sofun@reddit
I have been in Norway for 15 years. Have a 5yo. Socializing with other parents is so weird here. Like, everyone is always trying to project this perfect parent image. If I make a funny comment about how I love my kid but sitting through his gymnastics practice is the worst part of my week, they look at me like I just shot their dog. Like, relax. It’s ok to say out loud that not everything is perfect. I feel like I’m surrounded by aliens or androids sometimes.
00sunset00@reddit
Same in London. Whatever happened to British humour... Every child is basically a startup and their parents are the project managers of their activities. Every single little thing turned into major philosophy.
Attila60@reddit
been in Norway fo 40 years, I agree, basically impossible to make friends here.
watfor@reddit
Good to know that nothing will change for me in.. 25 years from now. Men det ordner seg...
Admirable-Eagle-231@reddit
I’m not going to lie, I’ve experienced this moving states within the US. It’s just a cultural quirk as most people form their lasting relationships early in life in many of these places. I’d recommend a hobby/club to join as an outlet for you. Sports, nature, sailing, hiking, crafting, etc. People going out in these kinds of activities will naturally find some of ‘their people’ but it takes time and effort. Take the time to teach your kids your language. If you can travel back and forth a bit to give some perspective and pressure relief for you.
I’m truly sorry you are going through this. This is really a difficult and depressing situation for you i imagine. One step in front of the other, take some deep breaths and find a hobby you enjoy, old or new to shake off this funk.
00sunset00@reddit
Originally from a gorgeous Balkan country, been in London for a while with two kids and I completely relate.
The school mums are either pretentious wannabe-posh or completely closed off in their own communities, own language, own world.
Luckily me and my husband share the same language and the kids speak it too. We're planning to move back. Kids will need time to adjust, but so be it, sometimes you just have to make the call.
The housing market here is just impossible. Old houses, tax after tax. Kids have no real freedom, everything is scheduled and optimised.
Have you considered an international school back home? Worth looking into if you're seriously thinking about going back.
Broad-Lobster7470@reddit
Man Denmark is not far from Eastern Europe. You should take them back home for visits
Economy-Reading-2811@reddit
She does, TWICE A YEAR!!!
HyperSculptor@reddit
Don't assume it would be bad for your kids. They'll adapt in no time, make new friends etc... All the good things you're missing, if you move back there, your kids will get to enjoy them. Lastly and most importantly, your partner is on the same page. Just go for it. The bill of regrets is expensive!
gringosean@reddit
As someone who moved at that age, don’t do it to them.
lurch99@reddit
Why not take the kids to your country every summer?
I think you have plenty of options to fix the dilemma you described.
Lauramadouk@reddit (OP)
We do travel to my homecountry twice a yearr already, but that's absolutely not enough time with their grandparents or other family members.
lurch99@reddit
Then extend their visits there. I bet there is also a community in Denmark of your people too, where you and your kids could get a fix of your local culture and language, no?
GabriellaVM@reddit
Yes, my parents Augusta Hungary every few years. My dad had to stay behind much of the time to work, but my brother and I stayed with my grandmother or my aunt and uncle for nearly the entire summer.
Storabert@reddit
19 years in Sweden, 4 kids, I feel exactly the same. My only friend is an Italian 😂.
Round_Transition_346@reddit
4 years in Sweden, I have maybe 1 friend hihihi
skintmint13@reddit
7 years in Norway and not a single Norwegian friend!
T1sofun@reddit
15 years in Norway. Tons of acquaintances, no real friends. Hate it. When I do make friends, they’re always other immigrants, and they eventually leave.
Attila60@reddit
lol ! 40 years in Norway and not a friend either ! something's weird with the Scandinavians !
Selko29@reddit
I think you're heavily underestimating the ability of your kids to adapt. If you move them now they will still have their entire middle school and high school years to make friends, and by the end of their first middle school year they will probably be fluent in your native language.
The longuer you wait, the harder it will get, If they were 15/16 years old it would be much much harder, but right now is the perfect time.
Squidbilly37@reddit
Your kids will adapt. You won't.
Laminestra@reddit
First of all, fair play to you for putting your children's education and wellbeing first. Recently, I met a lady who moved with her two young sons to Marrakech from Switzerland just because she wanted to live in an exotic place, and I was disgusted. I am an expat myself. Making friends with other expats is easier than with locals. There must be someone out there! I suppose you tried FB groups and Meet Up... Can you go back to your country more often? Even on unpaid leave? I don't know your situation and I'm just throwing some random suggestions
zyneman@reddit
Dont settle in small land mass countries. You might b there 4 a long long time
classicalworld@reddit
Denmark is part of the continent of Europe. Plenty of trains and cheap flights to the entire continent.
SpaceBetweenNL@reddit
However, you DO have a husband. I also don't have any real friends in my current country, but I was also rejected by everyone I loved.
Isn't it cool to have a long-term partner, who's good enough, I guess?
i_regret_life@reddit
I am danish and was an expat kid from 12-16 yrs old, and even I had trouble fitting in when I came back. I completely understand where you’re coming from.
Competitive-Papaya26@reddit
Start teaching them your language.
eternallytiredcatmom@reddit
Suggesting r/multilingualparenting although it is much harder to change the dynamics at home with teenagers, but it’s full of good advice and resources
Both-Basis-3723@reddit
Very true. My kids were younger when they started. I’m old and learning languages is Sisyphusian. They do Saturday school as well but I’m getting the impression that’s more about candy at this point
Both-Basis-3723@reddit
My wife only speaks to them in mandarin and will only answer them if the speak it back. Bump first few months but now they are pretty fluent. Hard core but mother tongues can’t be optional.
Get some hobbies. Get some other foreigners. NL isn’t easy this way but I would focus on doing something you love and you’ll meet like minded people.
Also, a lot of people suck and you only figure that out when you are older. That’s why it was easy to meet people when you were young. That and new classes every semester, going out all the time, drinking etc.
You need to feel yourself some joy, the people come from your being happy. At least that’s my perspective.
anjunableep@reddit
If you and your partner's only objection to moving is concern for the kids and they are pre-teen then you would be surprised how quickly they adapt: socially, language, everything. Source: that happened to me.
I understand your concern for them and yes it's disruptive but don't dismiss the option when you don't really know how they would react. In some ways maybe it's better for them if the family as a whole is going to be happier.
Anyway it doesn't have to be all or nothing. You can move to your home country and move back if things don't work out; spend half the year in your home country, the rest in the Netherlands, etc. Maybe take the kids for the summer holidays (a few months) or something and see how they get on?
Just a thought: do your kids speak English? If so there are many schools all over the world that operate only in English. Those schools are also more outward looking / less insular than the local ones since many of the students are from expat / immigrant families themselves.
confinement_beam@reddit
I mean, it could be Denmark, or it could be that as we get older making new friends is extremely difficult.
LibrarianByNight@reddit
It's both, but it's 20x in Denmark.
LibrarianByNight@reddit
I'm also in a Denmark and can relate. If you didn't make your friends in 0.klasse, you don't have any. I have made friends in my home country expat group and was on a team briefly that was super social and welcoming.
I think it sounds like a move is probably best and it's great that your husband is supportive. Depending on where you live and your native language, there are home language classes hosted by the kommune that your kids may be eligible for. Would international school in your home country be an option? It's so reasonably priced in Denmark, but I know that's not the case everywhere.
Stock_Fly3825@reddit
How often do you travel to see your family? That could help. Also, usually in places like that it is easier to engage and make friends with expats much more than with locals. Try some cluds for sports or anything else that you like..I’m sure if you do a little research you might find those expat groups on internet and see what they have in Denmark..
GPS501@reddit
Bro
Tell the wife you are going out to get milk and then run
Run away back to your country
Life is short
Successful-Web6033@reddit
Had a wife and kids in Baltimore, Jack. I went out for a ride and I never went back.
Yorkshire_rose_84@reddit
I’m with you my European neighbour. I’m from the UK and live in the US. Even though they speak English here, I am constantly the butt of jokes.
My husband and daughter have both integrated superbly. My daughter (9) will be starting at a performing arts school in the next academic year, something I could never take away from her as they don’t have schools like this in the UK unless you pay for them. My husband has many friends and loves his job. I feel like it’s me that the fun sponge.
I did post on here a few months ago with a similar post and I received lots of useful response. I now volunteer at my local library just to get out of the house now. I found prior to that I had become an introvert and hated being around people, in actual fact I just didn’t know how to be “me” anymore. Not a wife or mother, me.
Is there anything which you enjoy doing? Is there an expat community of people with the same shared culture as yourself? It could be nice to have friends who understand your background? It would also mean you don’t feel so alone.
Hugs from across the pond.
pinkandpurplepens@reddit
I had my kids abroad and recently went home after 10 years. Basically same reasons as you, I don’t want mine to establish their whole lives there or marry someone from somewhere else (it was a very international city) and go off god knows where. Mine are very young not even in school yet. Thank you for posting this because it affirms my choice even tho most people thought we were completely insane for moving back to “evil” America
Reasonable_Drop_7101@reddit
Well you know in the end your kids still have the possibility to marry someone from anywhere and set up their lives anywhere
CrazyAd1835@reddit
Non TCKs should think twice before committing to a family in another country imho. They often struggle and feel very stuck. I’m a TCK and it’s my “normal” to be in a “foreign” country, and not have a family or friends , and move around if I please.
Faselis@reddit
What is a TCK?
1ovemylife@reddit
Third culture kid. A child who grew up outside of their parent’s countries.
Entebarn@reddit
Could you spend a couple summers there and find same language speakers nearby? Or do a test year?
zinjanthropus99@reddit
I can relate to your post 100%. Unless you were born or raised in Denmark as a kid, this is a very difficult place to be, especially if you’re social.
nimenionotettu@reddit
Goes with all Nordics.
Cultural_Owl9547@reddit
Not sure how much it helps you but for fears like this I ended up moving home to Eastern Europe pregnant and had my kids at home near my mum. Having family close is extremely helpful I’m not gonna lie but the truth is I’m extremely lonely here as well. It could be that kids do that to you, or I’m unsure but for me its not really a location. After being abroad for so long and living with a foreigner I feel like an outsider at home also. So check your options or maybe go home for a summer break to visit and see but its not at all sure that your life would he significantly better at home.
Sufficient-Job7098@reddit
That is my opinion as well. Being back would be fine but not necessary better.
Embarrassed_Key_4539@reddit
It sounds like therapy could be beneficial for you
Lauramadouk@reddit (OP)
I've been in therapy for 7 months now, with little success.
therapyinenglish@reddit
You are absolutely in a tough situation, but a good therapist will be able to help you feel a little better even during the first session. That was certainly the case with my own therapist and continues to be the case even many years later - if he ever stops being helpful, I’ll find a new one. But so far so good.
Let me know if you want to talk things over. I have the sense there is a lot more going on here than just your hatred of Denmark.
therapy-in-english.com
This might have some relevance for you:
https://therapy-in-english.com/blog/i-moved-abroad-for-my-partner
No-Fix-9093@reddit
Time for a new therapist
ambergresian@reddit
A therapist can only do so much.
Sometimes that's "being so peace" with an unideal situation if you can't make moves otherwise. That doesn't mean the situation improves. And asking to be at peace with that can be a lot.
No-Fix-9093@reddit
True but therapists have different modalities, some of which work better for others and some less. For OP, it should ideally be someone who also specializes in counseling immigrants/expats along with any other areas relevant to OP.
ambergresian@reddit
That's true. For example, I've personally for my own purposes with trauma found CBT absolute shite and DBT much better. Because CBT was very invalidating like, no, these are real things that happened to me and continue to happen to me, I don't need to reframe it, it genuinely happened and continues to happen and sucks. What I can do is learn coping mechanisms to exist in a place that has shitty things going on, cause I'm either here or I'm killing myself, so if I'm here let's learn how to cope.
So yes. The right therapist in that regard does matter. You need to find someone who can meet you where you are.
fe8888@reddit
My family moved around a bit when I was a kid. I changed country 4 times between 7-14yrs of age. As a kid, it was tough, but I'd do it all over again. It enriched my life beyond explanations. Take your family back to your country for a year, test it out.
Lauramadouk@reddit (OP)
That's so nice to hear that, I mean it. I hear a lot of horror stories tho, about people losing their roots and their identity and that's what I am afraid of.
Bridgerton22@reddit
I think you should take a time off like vacation. Go home first to your country that would be better for your mental health. Then come back to Denmark once you miss your family.
Cojemos@reddit
Making friends these days is much more complicated than it was the last century.
Anonymous30005000@reddit
Hmmm are you sure you would suddenly make so many friends in your home country? What age were you when you emigrated? It’s just that it’s hard for everyone to make friends at 30+ years old and I would not assume I could relive my twenties just by moving back to my home country. The atmosphere of being social has died a lot since COVID and never resurrected. I can never return to 2019 even if I move home. I wouldn’t move your children if they are happy. If your children are old enough to survive with just their father for a month at a time, why not go home by yourself for a longer visit to really see if this is a good decision for you.
MadeThisUpToComment@reddit
I think a lot of us who move in our 30s and 40s make friends oends through parents of other kids. For us thats at least been the intro. We have cycled through most of the expats who arrived around the same time and many since. We've filtered that down to a pretty close firend group.
The difference for us, compared to OP, is neither my wife or I are local. So we're together on building a community within our expat bubble, which does include a few locals.
aLegionOfDavids@reddit
If it helps, I’m an expat in America and feel the same. No social whatsoever, have to drive everywhere, everything’s politically divided now, all friends I had moved because they were priced out of my area, family is a 24h journey away by plane..sucks
Zeca_77@reddit
My husband (a local) and I were the ones who had to move out of the capital city due to housing costs and leave friends behind. It's definitely isolating. I haven't been able to make friends in my new town.
Mel_tothe_Mel@reddit
Kids are resilient. We moved our teen to dad’s home country of Spain without her knowing the language. You only have one life. If you’re not your best self, you’re not the best parent you can be.
Professional_Team438@reddit
That’s the life of immigrants. Stick it out or move home.
Big_Hope_4102@reddit
I live in a very warm and friendly country, but I understand your feelings. I think it's less about the place and more about parenting in an unknown country. It's hard to parent our kids in an environment that is different from how we grew up. Others have said therapy, and I think that's important as well. Get to the real reason to why your mental health is declining.
e9967780@reddit
I regret that as well
Lauramadouk@reddit (OP)
❤️
Sufficient-Job7098@reddit
I don’t have super rosy illusions about my social life back in my home country. I know that locals back at home can suffer from loneliness, they can grew apart from childhood friends. Adult children and parents/in laws can have family feuds, and those feuds can be particularly painful because it is between close family members. This is just part of normal ups and downs of human life.
I have good relationships with my family back home. I have overall positive views about people there And I am happy to visit.
But I don’t see social lives people back home meaningfully better to entice me to daydream about returning. ( I am also from Eastern Europe, abroad since 2000 ish , young-adult kids)
CapitalAd5339@reddit
No offense, but Eastern Europeans do tend to fixate on the negatives. If you focus on what’s bad, you will never give a chance for good to come into your life. Happiness and contentment is to some extent a decision - somewhat along the lines of making lemonade if you have lemons. If you choose not to, then things can be difficult.
After this long, with a degree of willingness to meet new people and some openness on your part - you should have been able to find your community, even if that means just 1-2 friends. What about others from your home country?
phillyphilly19@reddit
Summer is coming. Can you take them to your home country for a month or so? Reconnect with your family and friends and introduce them to your home culture? I mean soon I'll be in college and you don't have to stay in the same country if you're a partner is willing to move. You only owe it to your children to raise them, not to make them the Center of Your World till you die.
gnarly_medusa@reddit
Try to find a community of locals from your native. I'm sure there are groups on Facebook or any other platform where you can find people from similar backgrounds.
brokerlady@reddit
it's not too late. i suppose you've already tried to meet people with the same background as you rather than just pursuing danish people as friends? go visit where you want to move and make a plan. if your kids speak english too maybe they could go to an international school? you get one life, you've tried, just go for it.
Whisky_and_razors@reddit
Have you tried finding other people from your home country? I always find it such a relief to speak my home language, have the same points of reference and so on.
SweetAlyssumm@reddit
This is a good cautionary tale for others though unfortunately it's too late for OP. OP, I wish you the best, it sounds hard.
cinamarroll13@reddit
Maybe get them into language classes? Are there any expat communities from you country there?