New BMW M5 And Electric M3 Spied During High-Speed Testing

Posted by NISMO1968@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 32 comments

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit

The weight increase of the RS5 is making me really not excited for either the gas or electric M3 coming up...

I am sure the M3 won't gain almost 1400 lbs like the RS5, but i am sure it will gain quite a bit of weight.

Will probably make the CT5V Blackwing which is a class above seem like a lightweight sports car lol.

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Imakeshittycardesign@reddit

The G84 M3 won’t be a PHEV though. They will add a mildhybrid system which is like 50kg. Should be a lot lighter than the M5 and RS5.

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InsomniacAlways@reddit

Why is it called the G84? That doesn’t make any sense. We went from f80 > g80 > g84? Seems like a facelift not a successor lol

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Captain_Alaska@reddit

The chassis code is a meaningless identifier for the manufacturer, it doesn't mean anything beyond the fact it stands for a certain vehicle.

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InsomniacAlways@reddit

I hear you but for years the chassis code has at the very least made sense?

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Captain_Alaska@reddit

Well no, with the M3 it's gone E30, E36, E46, E90/92/93, F80, G80/G81.

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InsomniacAlways@reddit

Well yes, since the early 2000’s the codes have all made sense. I said for years, not forever

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Captain_Alaska@reddit

Well they haven't, you've picked the one and only generation of M3 where they just changed the letter between gens.

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InsomniacAlways@reddit

E92>F80>G80 still makes sense lol. I’m not saying it needs to follow a specific order

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Captain_Alaska@reddit

Again, not even the regular 3 Series follows that format. The previous gen M5 went back a letter code relative to the standard model.

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Gorgenapper@reddit

I'm just not excited anymore about this trend of making cars heavier and faster.

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user289734@reddit

The CT5V and Giulia Quad are better drivers cars anyway

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xTatamo@reddit

go buy one then , everyone says they are the best but no one wants one in the end

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People hate to hear this. Current gas BMWs including the M3 drive very much like an EV. An Ioniq 5N with less weight could easily replace the experience of many German cars with their automatic, turbo torque, and AWD system. Not to mention fake engine noise in many modern gas cars

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assblast420@reddit

The current gen M3 is ~1730kg. A Model 3 Performance which in many ways matches it in terms of speed and handling, is ~1850kg. So ~120kg more.

I don't know why other manufacturers keep ending up with these ungodly heavy EVs/hybrids when Tesla has shown it's possible to keep the weight down.

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RIP_Soulja_Slim@reddit

A Model 3 Performance which in many ways matches it in terms of speed and handling,

That is......

A very misguided statement.

The current M3 does the VIR lightning lap in 2:53.5. The model 3 performance did it in 2:58.4.

The Model 3 performance is more in line with an M440, Civic Type R, Golf R, etc.

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assblast420@reddit

The weight is the point, not the specific details on the performance. It's close enough.

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thejetssuckbigtime@reddit

I didn’t know some electric dildo is now a performance car benchmark.

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RIP_Soulja_Slim@reddit

Oh I mean that's cuz the Tesla is orders of magnitude less refined. The M car is still a BMW underneath - NVH accounts for hundreds of pounds on these modern cars. Ground insulations, firewall insulation, broad cabin insulation, thicker glass, etc all adds up. Then you put on top of that the much more complicated suspension components and architecture.

I mean, don't get me wrong the modern 3 series is a porker, and sadly it took the 2 with it, but Tesla isn't a benchmark here. Those cars are comparable weight because tesla skimps on all sorts of shit, not because they're designed to be lighter.

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half_regard@reddit

The weight increase

reminder that these types of comments almost exclusively come from people with 30+ BMIs

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit

Not liking that a car gains 1400 lbs between a singular generation means I am fat?

That is quite the statement.

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half_regard@reddit

means I am fat?

statically, yes

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Armored_Guardian@reddit

What if I am dynamically fat?

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strongmanass@reddit

The RS5, M5, Panamera, and AMG GT 63SEFJRIEEKDK are PHEVs with big batteries for compliance purposes. They have two full powertrains. The M5 is heavier than the i5 and the Panamera hybrid is heavier than the Taycan.

The M3 and M5 BEV should weigh less than all those PHEVs.

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You can tell it's heavy even in this picture

much like your mom lol

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