Does everything have a price?

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RealWalkingbeard@reddit

Have some fun: cover up the not-for-sale sign with one reading "Sold!"

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badger906@reddit

I stuck a not for sale sticker in my project Land Rover. As I was getting notes through the door or under the wiper all the time. Sure I have a price. But it’s 3-5x the value of it!

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stupre1972@reddit

"Would you have sex with me for £1 million pounds"

"Yes of course"

"Would you have sex with me for £1"

"No, dont be stupid, what type of person do you take me for"

"We already established what type of person you are, now we are negotiating the final price"

There are a thousand variations on that joke, but, yes, everything is for sale

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SemtaCert@reddit

So you would sell your children?

Would you sell your services to murder someone or torture someone?

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stupre1972@reddit

Everything has a price.

Around the world, those are "services" that can be purchased.

Do you like it - judging by the way you phrased your question, I would say not.

Do I like it - most certainly not.

Dont forget that for many years, you could openly buy and sell humans. We are a little more discreet about it today, but 'modern slavery' is a far greater numbers problem than the historic ever was.

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SemtaCert@reddit

"Everything has a price."

So there is a price to buy your children?

There is a price to pay for you to torture someone?

I was trying to make a point that there isn't s price for everything and assumed you wouldn't do those things.

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stupre1972@reddit

"I was trying to make a point that there isn't a price for everything"

But that is my point, there is

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SemtaCert@reddit

Well I wouldn't sell a family member for any price, I wouldn't torture someone and there are many other things I wouldn't do.

So no, there isn't.

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imtheorangeycenter@reddit

See those people who have refused ungodly amounts and they've had skyscrapers built around them. Or motorways.

The Chinese have a very specificname for them I think. I'm sure the Germans will too!

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Ballbag94@reddit

But does that mean those people don't have a price or does it simply mean they weren't offered enough?

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J8YDG9RTT8N2TG74YS7A@reddit

I guarantee it's because they've not been offered enough.

If someone offered them £500million they would abandon the house immediately.

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I disagree. When you reach a certain age you may just want to live out your remaining time in the place where you are comfortable, and there’s really no difference between £500,000, £500million or even £500billion. You’re never going to spend it, there’s nothing you want that costs that much, why would you be motivated by it?

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audigex@reddit

Yeah my Nan is well into her 90s and her pension covers her needs. She primarily lives in her flat, the dining room/social room in her warden accommodation, and once a week she goes to town to spend £20 in the charity shops buying shit she doesn’t need to give away to whoever visits

Realistically she’d struggle to actually enjoy even an extra £100k herself because she just doesn’t need it, so being offered £100k or £100 billion makes basically no difference to her

I’d hope she’d have the sense to take a massive pile of cash to give to her loved ones, not least because she doesn’t mind moving house and decorating the new place would be one of the few things she’d spend money on… but for someone without kids I can see why they wouldn’t give a shit about the number getting bigger - they just want to be left alone in peace

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EmmaInFrance@reddit

They're called Spite Houses in English, IIRC.

There's other forms of spite constructions too, spite fences, for example.

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NeilPatrickWarburton@reddit

I believe in China they call them “Germans”.

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mdmnl@reddit

If I know my German it'll be a literal translation of personwhorefusedlargeamountsofmoneyandremainsintheirnowsingularhome

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mystic-echoes@reddit

Adding just two letters to that could completely change it.

PersonWhoreFusedLargeAmountsOfMoneyAndRemainsIntoHeirNowASingularHome

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MountainMuffin1980@reddit

In China they're called Nail Houses/homes.

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JavaRuby2000@reddit

The Ambleside XR2 was sat there for 15 years and rejected every offer. The owner finally changed his mind in 2022.

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NixyPix@reddit

Every man has a price. I judge yours to be £530.

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Ricky_Martins_Vagina@reddit

Maybe you could finger her for 300....?

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citruspers2929@reddit

I’m not going to bargain with you Ricky_Martins_Vagina

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hattorihanzo5@reddit

I do like some of the things... they do.

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OurSeepyD@reddit

Back to the Mitchell and Webb sub!

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Another_Random_Chap@reddit

Everything has a price, and that includes people's morals.

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Morris_Alanisette@reddit

I think some people's morals are stronger than yours if you think that. I wouldn't murder someone for any amount of money for instance.

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BarNo3385@reddit

No.

A lot of things do, but almost certainly not everything where personal / emotional value in involved.

Say someone came to us and offered a huge sum of money (billions) for my young son's organs. He'd survive, but be blind, need constant medical attention and have a horrible life ahead of him.

The answer would be no followed by two short words that rhyme with Duck Boff.

The value scales involved aren't financial, so no amount of money is going to change the conversation.

If you're talking just "stuff" then, yes, almost certainly.

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Rich-Peak-3902@reddit

That's a proposition for him, not you; you don't own your son's organs to sell.

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BarNo3385@reddit

Given that its illegal regardless, I don't think the issue is necessairly whose got legal consent

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Morris_Alanisette@reddit

Huh, TIL that you can't even sell your own organs. There goes the idea of selling a kidney for a pack of Lurpak.

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LittleSadRufus@reddit

I understand why you'd refuse the money, but why you'd follow it up with a coy "Suck off?" is a mystery to me. Commiseration blow job maybe?

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BarNo3385@reddit

I mean, if you want to pay me £10billion for a commiseration blowjob we may have a deal.

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BG3restart@reddit

Well, it might be their dead dad's car that they wouldn't sell for even a million pounds. Some people are very sentimental.

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BarNo3385@reddit

Sure, but a million isnt that much these days.

What about a billion or a 100 billion?

At what point are you turning down mega generational wealth for your entire family to keep a car. And perhaps relevantly in that example, how do you feel your Dad would have reacted to you turning that deal down?

Sentiment can certainly add a huge amount on to the value of something. I've got things I wouldn't sell for 100 or even a 1000 times their nominal value. But for no possible amount of money? Dunno, at some point my kids future is more important than my memories.

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BladesMan235@reddit

A million is more than most people will earn in a lifetime of work and used wisely it would earn them more passively than the average annual income. It still is a lot.

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SemtaCert@reddit

You can earn a million pounds in your lifetime just by working a minimum wage full time job and that's not including any future increases...

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BladesMan235@reddit

Minimum wage would get you about 1.1 million BEFORE tax

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SemtaCert@reddit

Yes so more than a million...

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BladesMan235@reddit

And minus tax…? And consider that millions of people are a long way through their working lives and so minimum would have been lower for them..? So to say most peoples lifetime earnings is less than a million isn’t much of a stretch is it..

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SemtaCert@reddit

Well when you ask someone what they "earn" the number provided is before tax.

People generally progress in their career and earn more.

But I've just had a look and you're correct, which I'm quite surprised by.

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BladesMan235@reddit

Ok but I was replying to a comment about £1m not being that much.. if somebody “earns” money but don’t receive it all then the amount they don’t ever see is not really relevant to the discussion

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SemtaCert@reddit

Well if someone sells something worth £10k for £1m then they would have to pay tax on the profit too.

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BladesMan235@reddit

Not if it’s a car which is the subject of this post

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Lynvor@reddit

Lol you could completely change my life with as little as £10k.

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confused_potato1682@reddit

UK median lifetime earning is around 1.2 - 1.3 million

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BG3restart@reddit

So would you sell one of your children for a billion or a 100 billion? To my mind, some things are indeed priceless.

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BarNo3385@reddit

If you think your kids are in the same category as a car, then I don't really think there's a discussion to be had.

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BG3restart@reddit

The OP's question was does everything (more or less) have a price. I was just pointing out that some things are priceless to some people. It could be the car to that person, if it has sentimental value. Then it was implied that even sentimental value could be overriden for a price. I don't believe that's always the case, that's all. Once you have enough money for your needs and desires, money isn't the same driving factor.

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

Someone slipped a letter through our door when we were in the process of selling our house. It was a landlord and they offered us more money than our buyer. We said fuck off to that. I didn't want to sell my first home let alone move three hours away to a new area just because my husband got a new job. I was sad. I don't want my family home going to some loser landlord. We threw out the letter. He could've offered me three million and unlimited wishes and I'd still have told him to go fuck off into the sun.

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Guilty_Struggle_6089@reddit

Fool

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

No. I didn't want to sell my house, but couldn't afford to rent it out as I'd be in the negative every month. I really loved that house and wanted someone else to love it as much as I did. I didn't want some asshole landlord to get it and rent it out for some extortionate amount.

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colin_staples@reddit

I think their point is that if you actually got three million and unlimited wishes, why would you not take it?

Just use a wish to get the house back...

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Neither_Process_7847@reddit

And another for the winning numbers for the next euro millions triple rollover and buy all said landlords properties off them?

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

Money doesn't buy happiness and fuck landlords. They are scum. Would never ever sell to landlords or developers.

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colin_staples@reddit

You may have missed my point

You could your unlimited wishes to fuck all landlords, or even vaporise them forever

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

I could do, but I don't want to have the power of fixing society. I'd rather stay a nobody.

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Rich-Peak-3902@reddit

"Money doesn't buy happiness" is just something poor people say.

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colin_staples@reddit

Or something rich people say to keep down poor people

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

I would be happy if I lived in a cardboard box. You have to put things into perspective. There are people who have it much worse than me.

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Rich-Peak-3902@reddit

That's a different proposition. That's "No money doesn't bring unhappiness"; they are not the same.

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

Yeah, but I know a higher amount on my old house would not have made me happier because I would know it came from a landlord who is scum. Any landlord in existence is scum. They are not good people. Money will never buy me happiness. I'd rather have my family and my health. Who cares if I'm penniless or homeless.

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Rich-Peak-3902@reddit

Money buys health and security for your family.

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

That’s a classic fallacy. Money provides comfort, not security. True security comes from community, character, and a conscience you don't have to hide from. If you sacrifice your morals for a payout, you’ve actually made yourself more vulnerable because you’ve lost your integrity.

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Rich-Peak-3902@reddit

Wow.

Just checking, you're actually going to die on the hill that a homeless person is as secure in life as a homeowner, just with a different level of comfort?

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

I’m not just 'dying on a hill,' I’m speaking from a reality my family lived. My grandfather was homeless from the day he was born in New Jersey because both his parents died on the day of his birth. He was raised by his 11 and 13-year-old sisters under a bridge.

They had zero financial security, but they had a level of actual security you clearly don't understand: they had absolute loyalty, a shared will to survive, and an integrity that kept them together.

A homeowner with a mortgage they can't afford and a family that doesn't speak to each other is 'secure' only on paper. My grandfather and his sisters survived because they weren't for sale. If you think a house is the only thing that keeps a person secure, you’ve never actually had to rely on your own character to survive.

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Rich-Peak-3902@reddit

Why the straw man argument?

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

It's not a straw man; it’s a lived reality that exposes the flaw in your definition. You’re equating 'security' strictly with 'property and bank balances.' I am telling you that my grandfather was more secure under a bridge with a family that wouldn't break than a person with a house who has no one to trust.

If your version of 'security' can be bought and sold, it’s just a commodity. Real security is what’s left when the money is gone. You’re calling it a straw man because you can’t account for the fact that people can be 'secure' in their spirit and their relationships without a penny to their name. My family is the proof. What’s your proof?

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Rich-Peak-3902@reddit

No, you're equating that, not me, hence the straw man. You are responding to an argument I didn't make; i.e. that that money buys the *only* type of security or that money is the *only* source of happiness. That was not the proposition.

The things you state bring security and happiness do so, I agree. The things I state bring security and happiness *also* do so. Do you understand the proposition now? If not, you're going to keep arguing against something no-one is saying.

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

I understand your proposition perfectly. You’re arguing that money is an additional layer of security. My point, which you seem to be avoiding, is that for many people, that 'extra layer' comes at a cost that makes the security a lie.

If I have to take money from a 'scum' landlord who is someone who exploits the basic human need for shelter to get that 'security,' then I’ve traded my character for a bank balance. To me, that makes me less secure, not more.

You’re treating this like a math equation where more money always equals more security. I’m telling you that in the real world, the source of the money matters. My mother and uncle died because of a system that puts a price on life. I’ve seen the 'security' money provides, and I’ve seen the devastation it causes when it's withheld. I’m not 'arguing against no-one'; I’m arguing against the idea that we should ever prioritize financial 'security' over our humanity. If you can’t see why some money is too expensive to take, then we aren't even speaking the same language.

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Rich-Peak-3902@reddit

I think this comes from you confusing who you're arguing with. I never said anything about the validity of landlordism or your particular situation (btw, I agree that landlords are parasites). You have made a false equivalence between my generalized statement that money buys happiness (in the abstract) with the specific statement that you should have accepted the money from the landlord, made by another commenter (which I have no opinion of).

I completely agree with you that the broad statement "money buys happiness" has conditions and caveats like every broad statement. "Water is good for you" is a general truisim, but drowning is bad. "A slice of cake is nice" is a general truism, but it's not nice to have it thrown in your face. "Money buys happiness" is a general truism, but when acquired from a negative source is tainted.

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

I'm glad we’ve reached the point where you agree that money from a negative source is 'tainted.' That was my point from the start.

But comparing the death of my family members due to financial barriers or the survival of orphaned children under a bridge to 'having cake thrown in your face' is a bit of a stretch. For you, this is a philosophical exercise about truisms. For me, it’s the reason I value my integrity and my family over any 'price' someone tries to put on them.

We can agree that money is a tool, but I’ll stick to my 'hill': a person’s security is measured by what they won't do for money, not by how much they have in the bank.

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Rich-Peak-3902@reddit

I'm sorry, at what point did I compare anything in your life to anything?!

This is such a bad faith argument. The chip on your shoulder is far too big to deal with.

Have a great weekend.

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notemark@reddit

I would say that a misunderstanding and would indeed say that money does not buy happiness, what it does buy is comfort.

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Lynvor@reddit

You'd turn down three million because the buyer was a landlord?

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Broccoli--Enthusiast@reddit

Id give it away before selling to a landlord

Bastards the lot of them.

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

Hell yes. I don't want my family home going to some loser whose going to rent it out and I don't want developers tearing it down. My house has been standing for 500 years. It doesn't deserve to be turned into a shopping mall or something equally ugly thing that society doesn't need.

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Lynvor@reddit

Do you mind if I ask how much it's currently worth?

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

Insurance says it would cost £1.6M to rebuild because they would have to rebuild to historical accuracy. I don't care about £1.6M pounds. I don't care if I never retire. My parents died never having retired. My mom died because she couldn't afford her cancer treatment and her older brother died because his dialysis went up so he had to stop taking it. I don't really care about money or being poor forever. My happiness is worth more.

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Arnoave@reddit

This doesn't sound like the UK

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Artistic-Fish1125@reddit

That’s because part of it wasn’t. As I mentioned earlier in the thread regarding my grandfather, my family is from New England. I'm a dual citizen.

The 'security' people keep preaching about in this thread is exactly what the US healthcare system is built on—profit. My mother and uncle died because in the US, if you don't have the money to pay the 'price,' you don't get the care.

I’m living in the UK now, but I carry those lessons with me. Seeing my family die because they weren't 'worth' the cost of treatment is exactly why I find the idea that 'everything has a price' so repulsive. It’s not a logical debate for me; it’s the reason I have empty chairs at my dinner table.

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bars_and_plates@reddit

I would say almost everything but there are obvious limits to it.

For example, would I sell a sentimental item that I own for a million quid - probably.

Would I sell my liver? Probably not.

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yearsofpractice@reddit

I’m 50 and one of the saddest discoveries in life is that everything and everyone has a price. Even those that think they don’t. Everything has a price.

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DigitalStefan@reddit

Some guy bought an island for $10k. He quit his job and spent 40 years making it habitable, planting trees, introducing animals.

Someone offered him $30M for it and he turned them down.

Guy knew what made him happy and money wasn't it.

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lxxmng@reddit

Not for sale" usually just means "I am tired of people offering me fifty quid for it.

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colin_staples@reddit

I would say almost everything.

Because there will always be exceptions.

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MonkeyBoy697@reddit

Yeah, obviously. Most people if you asked them to assassinate someone for free would say, but if you were to offer them enough money there would be a point that they would agree

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OurSeepyD@reddit

I don't agree. I'm not assassinating anyone for a billion dollars, and I reckon the majority of people I know are in the same boat.

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CarpeCyprinidae@reddit

yeah - its the sort of thing you need an actual motive for other than money.I wouldnt say theres nobody I'd take out, but if I did it, it wouldnt have been for payment

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MonkeyBoy697@reddit

You’re all pussies then, quite frankly.

Hypothetical question then; your girlfriend/fiancee/wife/boyfriend/husband or whatever you’re into and your kids or dog, cat, whatever are being held at gunpoint by a crazy person and they’re all wearing suicide vests that the mad man has control of… you have a choice, you either shoot him in the head and kill him there and then (and he wants you to do it) or your loved ones die… are you telling me you wouldn’t do it? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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OurSeepyD@reddit

You’re all pussies then, quite frankly.

Lol ok big man.

Your hypothetical question is completely different. You've gone from price to something else entirely.

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quite_acceptable_man@reddit

Without a second thought, and I'd sleep very soundly that night.

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roxieh@reddit

I think this says more about you than the general population.

Some of us really don't care about money that much.

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MonkeyBoy697@reddit

Ok, remove money from the equation altogether… crazy man takes your loved ones hostage, puts a suicide vest on them, has a phone in his hand ready to blow them up - but he hands you a loaded gun and says you have 10 seconds to shoot him in the head or he kills them… are you telling me you wouldn’t kill him for free?

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roxieh@reddit

That's a completely different set of parameters. The question is does everything have a price. The answer for many people is no.

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MonkeyBoy697@reddit

So you would do it for free under those parameters 🤷🏻‍♂️ … so there is a price, may not be monetary, but there’s a point at which you would do it

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roxieh@reddit

so there is a price, may not be monetary

The point was it was about money 😂 but sure change it all you want internet stranger, whatever point you want to make!

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EloquenceInScreaming@reddit

I've got my house paid off and I'm not a big shopper. No amount of money would be worth having a murder on my conscience for the rest of my life

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Cold_Table8497@reddit

Depends on the target. Maybe free, maybe no price high enough.

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mdmnl@reddit

Depends on the target

Him? We were gonna do that anyways.

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New-Hawk3124@reddit

there is also a difference between value and replaceability. someone might refuse to sell an old car for years because it belonged to their dad or because restoring it became part of their personal story. money can outweigh that eventually for some people, but it does not automatically mean the object was only ever worth cash to them.

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CarpeCyprinidae@reddit

restoring it became part of their personal story

like someone I know who's been paying to store a broken 1980 Capri for the past 28 years

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SpudFire@reddit

I think so but then some people are incredibly sentimental. If somebody is refusing an offer for their house which is 10x market value, you're probably going to wonder if they've got a body buried under the patio.

If somebody offered 50k above market value for my house, I'd probably take it, assuming I can upgrade with the money available.

Similar to your point about the car, I own a classic mini. It was my first car and I have no intention of selling it. The amount of people out in public that ask me how much I'll sell it to them for is crazy. I always tell them £50k, to which they scoff that it's probably only worth £5k. I agree, it probably is, but you asked how much it'll cost you to buy!

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Polldit220@reddit

An American woman stayed at my hotel once and when she said she wanted to buy it I said it wasn’t for sale. She replied “Oh honey, everything’s for sale”. Turns out she was right. Ker-ching! 💰

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Polldit220@reddit

I sell for tree fiddy

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ApprehensiveRun1382@reddit

5 million was enough for someone to fuck up his own country.

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Frequent-Cobbler4232@reddit

What country is this person in charge of?

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Oddball_bfi@reddit

Ooh... OK. I'll meet you on your own ground.

What country are all the immigrants in charge of? None? Ah, then it isn't a problem, eh?

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escapingfromelba@reddit

That's a false comparison, you must know that.

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Oddball_bfi@reddit

Oh, dear. Silly me, trotting out nonsense.

And what is "This highly influential political figure operating a national PR and propaganda network isn't in charge of the actual country so he can't fuck anything up!"

That's perfectly reasonable is it?

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