Update: From Unobtainium to Maybe-Obtainium??? | Ukrainian Fort 232S 9mm | ATF Rule Change
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Update: From Unobtainium to Maybe-Obtainium??? | Ukrainian Fort 232S 9mm | ATF Rule Change
A proposed update to ATF import regulations, published in the Federal Register on May 6, 2026, would dramatically reshape access to Ukrainian-made firearms in the United States. The rule removes Ukraine—and most other former Soviet republics except Russia—from the list of countries subject to an automatic, blanket denial of Form 6 permanent import applications. Instead of automatic rejection, each application would receive case-by-case review by the ATF, aligning firearm import policy with current U.S. State Department guidance that treats Ukraine as a key partner rather than a prohibited source. This change effectively ends a 1997-era prohibition that has kept Ukrainian arms off the American civilian market for nearly three decades. One firearm that we examined at IWA 2026 in Nuremburg, Germany that could potentially be imported as a result of the rule change is the Ukrainian Fort 232S, a 9mm semi-automatic pistol variant of the Fort-230A submachine gun platform developed by RPC Fort, Ukraine’s state-owned small arms manufacturer. Under current rules, any attempt to import the Fort 232S (or similar Ukrainian firearms) is automatically denied regardless of the sporting-purpose compliance or end-user documentation. The proposed rule eliminates that categorical barrier, allowing licensed importers to submit ATF Form 6 applications that would now be evaluated on their individual merits. Provided the pistol meets all other federal requirements—including the Gun Control Act’s “sporting purposes” test and some other requirements for import–the 232S might be on the market soon. If finalized after the public comment period ends on July 6, 2026, the rule would not only potentially greenlight the Fort 232S but also signal a return to rationality in the U.S.–Ukrainian defense trade. Under the previous set of rules, Ukraine was treated the same way as North Korea. Industry observers anticipate a surge of interest in RPC Fort’s lineup, potentially introducing innovative 9mm platforms to the American market while supporting Ukraine’s defense industry. Until the final rule is published, however, the Fort 232S remains unobtainable for U.S. civilians—making this regulatory shift a pivotal moment for both firearms enthusiasts and transatlantic security cooperation.
BeenisHat@reddit
Hopefully this gets through. It's basically a Ruger LC Charger in 9mm though, if Ruger would ever get their poop in a group and release the LC Charger is something other than 5.7
Alpha_Hellhound@reddit
No kidding. 9mm, 10mm, 45acp. Not sure why they didn't just do everything they have the carbine in.
BeenisHat@reddit
Yeah, I don't get it. Unless they're trying not to cannibalize PC Carbine/Charger sales too much. The LC platform just seems better in every way I can think of though, other than looking a little goofy with the long barrel.
thin_hawaiian_line@reddit
I think the biggest problem is whether or not Fort and other Ukrainian companies are allowed to and/or willing to sell guns to the US.
Gunsensual@reddit
Almost anything to do with arms exports comes from the willingness to export excess to maintain the country's national interest- steady production. It's why we have European guns and ammo and tons of M16-derivative guns. The alternative is that each national government pays to keep factories scaled up but doing nothing.
So yeah, as long as they've met internal demand, they would be nuts not to export.
Ammo? Not so much, not with Ukraine and its current 3 day dilemma.
fkthisjob14@reddit
When the war ends, it will be very logical for them to do. Eventually, there will be a surplus of guns and ammo to sell, and civilian contracts will help keep the production lines going, requiring less subsidization from the government. I doubt they're going to want production capabilities to decrease in the next few decades.
bobrobor@reddit
That war won’t end anytime soon, and when it does they will not be exporting surplus much. Because another war maybe behind the corner. They will continue ramping up military spending for decades to come at this point. Their entire economy is based on war spending and foreign aid, pivoting to a civilian-first budget is impossible given the corruption levels in all branches of the government and localities.
Leafy0@reddit
I would think that if they developed and showed a civilian semi auto version of the gun that they were planning civilian sales and the USA is the biggest market for that by a large margin.
allisayisbeautiful@reddit
Meh. I want the russian guns.
irattlecannedmycan@reddit
The problem is we are in a cold war with them for stupid fucking reasons from shit the ussr did from after ww2 to present day and the rus cant give up that the ussr fell
nondescriptzombie@reddit
You could buy Russian guns and vehicles up until 2014 when they invaded Ukraine.
I missed my window on cheap Saiga-12's and genuine Izmash AK's.
irattlecannedmycan@reddit
Russian aks are shitty wasr 10s are better quality
MarryYouInMinecraft@reddit
...and other lies we tell ourselves.
GenericUsername817@reddit
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
fkthisjob14@reddit
Belarus is on the list of countries potentially getting the ban lifted. As a Russian puppet state and neighbor, I wouldn't be surprised if you see all sorts of "Belarusian" stuff being sold.
allisayisbeautiful@reddit
Hmm, interesting. Let's hope.
JimMarch@reddit
Why in the name of bad sex would we categorize Ukraine with North Korea in anything?
Not only are they key allies, we desperately need their drone tech which is now multiple generations ahead of anything we've got. The only ones close to them are the Russians who are sharing their shit with the Chinese who we're on the verge of war with!
Ghaaaaaaaaaa.
MarryYouInMinecraft@reddit
It made sense when they made the rules. Doesn't make sense now that we have an intelligence sharing pipeline with them and can bypass their corruption.
shit_poster9000@reddit
Not to mention the materials investments we poured in, and the resulting combat data without even putting a single US active duty trooper on the line. We haven’t faced a proper near-peer in direct combat since the Korean War.
Klutzy-Square-9453@reddit
Uzi out of production, SP7 fires a cartridge I don't want to buy, TP9 seems just too overpriced, and the Defender looks too toyish. This scratches the "mag in the grip pdw" itch heavily. Hope it makes it, and at a reasonable price. I'd pay Stribog costs for this
Odd_balls_@reddit
I hope we get cheep ammo imported again
Plenty_Pack_556@reddit
Bring back mass importation of AK ammo.
Own-Particular6321@reddit
We'll have an FRT for that by the end of the week it begins shipping to the US.
Echo017@reddit
Ukraine makes a lot of really interesting stuff and once peace is secured we will get to see inexpensive x39 again
Beebjank@reddit
I hope we get this. I’m tired of the lack of fixed barreled PDWs. I just bought a fucking Masterpiece Arms Defender (Mac-11 clone) to try and get something like this.
TaintTamerTerry@reddit
if thats a non reciprocating charging handle i would 10/10 buy this over any mp7 or tp9
Best_Compote2522@reddit
This gun was the inspiration for my Mac 11 machine gun build so cool we can get them now
GaybutNotbutGay@reddit
Frt's are getting designed for everything nowadays surely one wouldn't be too far behind it if it came into the country
Best_Compote2522@reddit
Yeah I just have to get my hands on one first
Nyancide@reddit
sorry if I'm misunderstanding, do you design frt's?
Best_Compote2522@reddit
Not at all I just collect machine guns I don’t own a single frt
Sensitive_Box_@reddit
This looks cool!
YackReacher@reddit
Wish this was sold here, even in semi.
darthjkf@reddit
I just want more of anything we don't already have. Gib pls.
YackReacher@reddit
This is awesome squared!