What is your legal recourse (can you sue) for getting kicked out of a pub over nothing?
Posted by Charming_Usual6227@reddit | AskABrit | View on Reddit | 48 comments
YorkshireMary@reddit
No. The Landlord has jurisdiction. The only exception would be racism or homophobia which are protected categories.
littlebird2446@reddit
Mate you were being a dick for sure. They’re not kicking you out for nothing. Probably a typical annoying lad, too tanked up and disturbing others.
CrimsonKaiserRyu@reddit
Businesses can refuse service so long as doing so doesn’t contravene the equalities act.
Even if that wasn’t the case though, what exactly would you be suing for? Wasted bus faire? Despite what kitschy films may have you believe, courts don’t exist to slap down obscene fines on people to make claimants rich, they’re there to make sure an aggrieved party is restored. So if not being allowed in the pub hasn’t cost you anything, there’s nothing a court can do about it.
MLMSE@reddit
To sue you would have to show you incurred some sort of loss. You incurred no losses, you have nothing to sue for. It's his/her pub, they can choose whether you are welcome or not - just as you can choose who comes into your house.
FiresidePete@reddit
Forget it and move on I have been barred from a few but never for fighting, its water off a ducks back, its their lose.
ShroomTopsInTheSun@reddit
Depends on the given reason you class as nothing. More info to your post would help.
zibafu@reddit
We may have laws and rules decider by governments, but the publican has his own rules and laws and if he wants you gone, you're gone 😂
Evening-Tomatillo-47@reddit
Is the No Reason in the room right now?
user_deleted_life@reddit
Nothing its private property, they can kick you out for anything they want, in fact they don't even have to give you a reason.
seven-cents@reddit
Right of admission reserved.
It's private property, they can kick you out for any reason unless it's discrimination based on a protected characteristic.
i.e. if they kick you out because you are disabled, or because you're gay, or because of your race etc
pulltheudder1@reddit
I think people get confused with private property and ‘public house’
PabloMarmite@reddit
None. A pub can refuse your custom for any reason unless it’s because of a protected characteristic.
xplorerex@reddit
Even then its doesnt really matter because they dont need a reason to not serve anyone.
Stunning_Anteater537@reddit
Yup this. They're not called The Guvna for nothing. Their word is law within the walls of the pub.
68_namfloW@reddit
[This you](https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18YBuYHm49/?mibextid=wwXIfr)?
mojnjaro@reddit
You can be kicked out over nothing. I was in a pub and told the manager behind the bar the toilets were a mess. Quite calmly and without shouting. He came over after I'd sat down and said to us can you drink your drinks and leave. Best thing is, about a year later he was sacked by the brewery and was asked to leave.
mojnjaro@reddit
Probably not the Landlord can have who they want in the pub
smellyfeet25@reddit
Did this happen to you?
bisensual@reddit
If the UK is anything like the US, no. You have no right to be there and there’s no injury (not necessarily physical, but something you deserve compensation for like lost wages or a physical injury you had to pay to fix or lost work for) caused by being kicked out of bar. Now if there’s legal discrimination (in the US we call them protected classes, and I assume there’s an analogue in the UK) *and* you can prove you were kicked out because of your identity in such a class of people, then yes. But it’s not for being kicked out it’s for discrimination.
Again, from the US, but came up on my feed.
DeliciousUse7585@reddit
Please tell us more about the US
bisensual@reddit
Look when I commented it was a bunch of smart ass answers and I was trying to help by offering what I know about a legal system that is in large part based on English common law. But sure, beat the “presumptive American” horse again.
DeliciousUse7585@reddit
Calm down mate
bisensual@reddit
Lol ok
GlitteringBryony@reddit
Nope, unless it's to do with a protected characteristic (there is an official list of them, ie "We don't serve puffs here" is about a protected characteristic and you could argue a case for discrimination, "We don't serve mackems here" is not.) - It comes down to a load of technicalities sometimes (eg, "If someone with Tourettes is screaming something that sounds like racial abuse, is it discrimination against a disabled person to tell them to leave?") But generally, a landlord or someone acting as their agent (ie, bar staff, doormen, etc) can kick out anyone at their discretion.
Maurice_Foot@reddit
Is “drunk git” a protected characteristic?
inide@reddit
Nothing.
The very few situations in which there might be recourse are so rare that they would make international news. For example, if there were a disaster or attack that resulted in a 'shelter in place' warning.
SidratFlush@reddit
You don't have to go home, but you weren't allowed to stay there.
Pubs have a duty of care not to serve intoxicated people, failure to do so may result in the server or licensee or both being fined, losing their license or jail or combination of all three.
Have a great time, not a long time. That way you'll be welcomed back with fondness rather embarrassment or blanket ban across multiple pubs in the area. Or wider, depending on the offense and or publican. They all talk to each other, they sometimes drink in each other's establishments too.
Go back next month and don't do what you did tonight. Have two, go home or elsewhere.
BillWilberforce@reddit
Only if it were due to a protected characteristic such as race, gender, sexuality, disability. Otherwise they can refuse to serve and ban you for any or no reason.
NerdOnTheStr33t@reddit
This being posted at half 12 on a Thursday night... 🤣🤣🤣
Just call it a night and go home, champ. You won't even remember this tomorrow.
NerdOnTheStr33t@reddit
OP is this you?
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/1tde6cx/british_man_hauled_out_of_bar_when_he_was_meant/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
JinxThePetRock@reddit
You're going to need to tell us more about the nothing that happened shortly before you were kicked out for it.
nunatakj120@reddit
Go to bed ya dafty.
wosmo@reddit
From what I understand (not a lawyer, etc) it's incredibly difficult - they'd have to show overt discrimination against a protected characteristic, or similar.
Besides the fact you don't actually need a reason to remove someone from private property, licensed premises aren't just able to, they're expected / legally obliged to. This makes it very defensible, and puts a huge burden on the accusation.
parkchanwookiee@reddit
You have hantavirus just go home
ValidGarry@reddit
No, and I'm sure there was a reason.
Efficiency_base@reddit
When it’s been posted at 12:30 on a Friday morning there’s definitely a reason 😂
Few_House_5201@reddit
No recourse unless it was over a protected characteristic.
wardyms@reddit
The fact is they can, if they absolutely want to.
“Over nothing” - this is also the bit that isn’t true in most scenarios.
LichenTheMood@reddit
Nope. 'Nothing' is not a protected characteristic
Competitive-Peace-54@reddit
None, you have no legal recourse, it’s a business, private property and you can and clearly have been asked to leave, for any or no reason at all.
Especially a pub, being a licensed premises they have to ensure they protect their licence to make sure they keep it, that includes removing anyone who might kick off, be violent, aggressive, abusiveor intoxicated.
fickle_tartan@reddit
For actually no reason, they just felt like it? Nothing, you have no recourse. Nobody has an automatic right to be served in a pub.
Businesses can refuse service for any reason as long as it's not discriminatory. If they kicked you out because of a protected characteristic then you would potentially have a legal case.
BetterAsk7395@reddit
Absolutely none, they can refuse service to anyone
Xanavaris@reddit
Nope. Pubs have the right and responsibility to refuse service for any reason. Whatever you did to annoy the landlord, you don’t get to force them to let you in again. https://thelicensingguys.com/knowledge-base/is-there-a-legal-right-to-be-served-in-a-pub/
DifferentWave@reddit
On what grounds are you suing?
MJLDat@reddit
There is none.
Shoddy-One-2064@reddit
Yea, I'm sure it was over nothing
DeliciousUse7585@reddit
Do you have a legal right to be in that pub?
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