We never get neat stuff …the Colt Mars mini assault rifle system!

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AMidgetinatrenchcoat@reddit

I think they got the pounds and kilograms measurements mixed up here

But honestly, very cool

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pinguinlord@reddit

I doubt they're mixed up, seems unrealistically heavy at 13 pounds loaded 3.something kgs/6.something pounds loaded seems more realistic

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AMidgetinatrenchcoat@reddit

Yeah Im starting to think they messed up the weight because according to this data it'd weigh like 30 pounds which seems absurd

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Tobi_1989@reddit

I love the fact the 5.56 MARS had the same length as 5.56 MINSAS, but twice the muzzle energy, giving it the actual CQ penetration the original 1980s PDW requirements listed

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit (OP)

I think from a design perspective its a masterclass on how this type project should be approached .

       Starting with the leadership coming from a operational background, using off the shelf already established components and addressing performance shortcomings using the most modern technologies available. It resulted in impressive capabilities while also providing rapid prototyping which i believe is the key because there isn’t really time for mission drift to set in and we ended up with 2 pretty impressive unique chamberings that didn’t need to reinvent the wheel so there also wasn’t time to over engineer solutions for non existent problems im looking at you p90

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thatARMSguy@reddit

Centurion Arms is making a reproduction of this. No clue when it’ll be released but they have functional prototypes

https://centurionarms.com/complete-firearms-uppers/5-56-harris-mini-assault-rifle-system/

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RamTank@reddit

Where do you get ammo for one of these though?

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DJ_Necrophilia@reddit

It wouldn't be all that different from converting 556 brass to 300blk. Probably just an extra step to neck down further

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GeneralBisV@reddit

They will also be making runs of the ammo as well iirc.

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ZeroTwo3@reddit

Very much looking forward to this; it's scratches an itch that the CMMG 5.7 just doesn't.

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_That_Guy_in_AZ_@reddit

It's been released, and sold out fast.

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit (OP)

There are a couple of important distinctions between this and a $350 PSA build especially when it comes to A. Innovative cartridge design 2. Pioneering new construction technology and very clever repurposing of existing elements 3. Unique tactical engagement doctrine that at least theoretically allow for better hit probability as well as effect on target while allowing for the higher round count because of the lighter weight everything at the most common and dangerous engagement ranges . Plus its like the opposite of the stupid new “battle rifle” adopted

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AyeBraine@reddit

haha not really

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thatbeersguy@reddit

some converted the weight wrong.

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GoredonTheDestroyer@reddit

Remember, kids at home - Multiply by 2.2 for lbs, divide by 2.2 for kilograms.

100lbs = 45.45kg.

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RevoTravo@reddit

lol it’s either 6.2 lbs or 30 FUCKING POUNDS! 🤣

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Evanflow39@reddit

I wonder if its possible to make a 5.56x30mm "Backcountry" (Using the case alloy that Federal made for the 7mm Backcountry) and could it match the velocity and energy of standard 5.56x45mm?

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit (OP)

Honestly the pistol based cartridge is nearly as intriguing (although my guess is that it will resemble a super hot .357 sig )

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit (OP)

That is an interesting idea i like the cut of your jib sir 🫡

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_That_Guy_in_AZ_@reddit

Who's this "we" here? I got mine when it was in stock.

https://centurionarms.com/complete-firearms-uppers/5-56-harris-mini-assault-rifle-system/?searchid=0&search_query=mars

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Key-Investment-3864@reddit

Wow I expected it to be in a different but similar available caliber of some variety but no they went all the way. How difficult is it to make the ammo for it?

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TheSlipperySnausage@reddit

I literally can’t find a single website selling it with a quick google

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Not_an_alt_69_420@reddit

I'm going to take a guess and assume 99.99% of people who bought that gun aren't buying factory ammo for it

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TheSlipperySnausage@reddit

True enough. If you had a method to cut down 5.56 to length and reshape it would be cheap to reload.

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit (OP)

I think that the most straightforward process would involve trimming.211 fireball not exactly a band burner in terms of sales but I suppose there is a widely available parent case and a fairly simple way to get to the .221 fireball and perhaps a single operation from parent case to 5.56X30 🤷🏻‍♂️ the extent of my own experience and skill level ends at older straight-wall loads completed with the lee hand kits i am learning though

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Not_an_alt_69_420@reddit

I've never done it personally, but that's a pretty standard practice when reloading for calibers you can't find the components for. I'm sure if you have $3k to drop on a gun, you have the money for whatever equipment you need to do it.

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RacerXrated@reddit

Asking the real questions.

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Sir-Claus@reddit

That's one heavy carbine, at least when you're into metric stuff😅

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DrBadGuy1073@reddit

This in 22tcm gimme

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit (OP)

I am sad the semi automatic carbine never popped up but i am currently awaiting the bolt action carbine 😬

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DrBadGuy1073@reddit

The Armscor M22? They look cool, although I'd want to tinker with it and probably make a 9x19mm barrel for it instead of 22tcm(r) if it uses glock mags. I'm sure 22tcm(r) performs great out of a 16" barrel as is, but I'd want to see what full length 22tcm is capable of.

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