On one April day, all of the planet’s top 50 hottest cities were in India

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hysys_whisperer@reddit

Isn't that normally the case in April?

Most of the world isn't at their peak heat of summer in April, but India is, so it's always the hottest place each April.

It's definitely more hot this summer, but in April, it's always the hottest and that hasn't changed. The problem isn't that it's always the hottest place each April, it's that it's more hot now than most Aprils of the past.

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quotes42@reddit

No. As someone who grew up in india - Normally, India’s peak heat happened in May. Before monsoons arrive in June. The monsoons are why by June India is past peak seasonal heat. The word “summer” in India for the whole time was growing up there from the 90s to the 2010s meant “the month of may”. In more recent years, it has started to get a lot hotter a lot sooner - in April.

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retiez@reddit

As an Indian, I want to say that compared to the rest of the northern hemisphere, summers start a little early in India from April, and it starts getting a bit colder after monsoons arrive by the end of June

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Ok_Main3273@reddit

Thank you for reporting from India. But would you say that temperatures of 120 F / 49 C as seen for a week now in part of Pakistan are normal for early May? I have no idea.

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Drone314@reddit

The subcontinent is fucked, only a few places a billion people can go, it’ll be ground zero for the first true mass climate migration and conflict.

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Jovan_Knight005@reddit

The subcontinent is fucked, only a few places a billion people can go, it’ll be ground zero for the first true mass climate migration and conflict.

The entire European continent won't be saved from mass migration that are going to inevitably happen once the climate crisis begins.

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jorgespinosa@reddit

Honestly I think only South America and Oceania will go relatively unscathed

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sleepytipi@reddit

Depends. If the gulf stream fails SA loses the Amazonian rainforest. If that happens the whole world is fkd. Air quality and forest fires will be out of control. The Sahara will get wet and flood like crazy, which will throw off the weather elsewhere on the African continent too.

It's all connected, and it's all a very delicate balance that we humans aren't nearly as prepared for as we like to think. Even our worst estimations don't really speak to the terrors of what everyday life will be like for most of us.

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inafrog@reddit

Completely agree. Plus the clock is ticking for all coastal and low-lying settlements regardless of temperature and weather patterns. The last time the atmospheric concentration of CO2 was at the current levels, the oceans were like 75 feet higher.

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sleepytipi@reddit

Well, I guess on the plus side of things - no more Florida.

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rematar@reddit

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XavierRussell@reddit

Arizona Bay haha

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KerouacsGirlfriend@reddit

Learn to swim!

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sleepytipi@reddit

Those cascadia seperatists are about to get their wish lol.

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khoawala@reddit

Open up Europe to Indians!

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Shoddy-Childhood-511@reddit

This is part of the push for EU ID. They can give Europeans access to services, even online, but exclude anyone non-local, or charge them extreme prices. I'd expect that illegal migrants in Europe will not even be able to buy food in Europe in a decade or two, much less find work, obtain a phone, etc.

Also, Europe has become much less food sufficient. The UK imports half their food. What do you think they'll be eating in 40 years? Or should I say who?

Russia is very much open to Indians, assuming they enlist to fight in Ukraine, where Russia looses 30k troops per month. Ukraine accepts foreign fighters too, but does not waste them in meat waves, and Ukraine is a major food exporter.

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gta0012@reddit

Iran probably goes first, complete lack of water.

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redditmodsRrussians@reddit

Speaking of which, didn’t Tehran run out of water already and it’s not like the conflict is improving drinking water availability?

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MariaValkyrie@reddit

Unless Pakistan decides to nuke India for draining the only river that flows into their country beyond its breaking point.

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redditmodsRrussians@reddit

Oh, most of them are gonna go to the same place…..and its definitely not Disneyland

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PsudoGravity@reddit

When?

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bathandredwine@reddit

Maybe having 12 kids each was NOT a great plan.

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Diaza_Kinutz@reddit

They can come to America! We will welcome them with open arms! Melting pot! Land of the free!

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daviddjg0033@reddit

dilapidated spec skyscrapers not to any code spec in china will hold the part of India Pakistan deatabilizes with Xi's tech?

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jbond23@reddit

Pre-monsoon India is always brutal.

Haven't posted this one in a while. Some of it is a little out of date. The general sentiment isn't.

Looking at the Indian Sub-Continent and S Asia as a whole, it appears to contain a perfect storm of chaos factors.

1.8b people growing at 20m/year. Maybe 2.5b by 2050.
Nowhere to go since the land routes out all involve 15,000ft passes that are closed, easily defendable and that already have military presence. Or into Myanmar which is dense jungle. Or into Iran and that route's harsh and lawless. Or into Afghanistan which is an active war zone. The sea routes are difficult, long and the likely destinations uninviting. All of which makes any mass emigration very unlikely.
The rich and middle classes may find a way out, but not the poor
Pollution problems (see all the main cities but especially Delhi, Karachi)
Large areas at risk of flooding from rising sea water when they're not being flooded by the monsoon.
One country (India) that controls water flow to two others (Pakistan, Bangladesh)
Dysfunctional governments. Increasingly extreme
Religion
Nuclear weapons
Severe and increasing danger of Black Flag weather every year. That's a combination of heat and humidity that kills humans without air conditioning.
Mass exposure to Black Swan weather. Bangladesh in particular is densely populated and prone to flooding. But so are the poorest states in India.
Very rich anarcho-capitalists, in control of technological industry, powered by very large reserves of coal but with little oil.
A proxy war zone on one porous border with Afghanistan that keeps spilling over into Pakistan with the help of US drones. (Is this over?)
Pakistan now well into collapse after multi-year floods & heat
Critical water shortages both in cities and for food production
Climate change induced heavy weather. Uncertain monsoon and extreme heat.

That's quite a pressure cooker.

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Mean-Alternative-416@reddit

Sounds fun

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mutherhrg@reddit (OP)

This continues to highlight that the most climate vulnerable nations are in south Asia. And two of said South Asians nations have nukes and hate each other. I can't see this ending well, not to mention the possible involvement of China.

And somehow even with India and Pakistan staring down the barrel of civilization ending heatwaves within a few years, nobody seems to be paying attention to this groundbreaking piece of news.

The current fuel crisis that we're in also doesn't help the situation. Will we see large scale blackouts and load shedding in June?

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Erinaceous@reddit

The terrifying one is Iran. When the war escalates again, which I'm sure it will, it will be absolutely horrific for the Iranian people as Israel conducts Gaza type operations on a country that's already having wet bulb events and is going to be very affected by a super ENSO cycle. The thought of those people going through these conditions without power and desalination plants chills me to the bone.

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Shoddy-Childhood-511@reddit

Iran has high elevations, so they'll mostly escape the high wet bulb temperatures for a long while. Israel is further north and on another sea, so they'll escape for a while.

Anyone actually near sea level on the Persian gulf shall face very high wet bulb temperatures much sooner. If Israel or Iran choose to take out power and ACs at the right time, then many many people would die.

Israel and US success against Iran so far has largely depended upon soft power, including spying by Iranians, but this sounds finished now, and could reverse somewhat.

Imho Iran shall obliterate Israel eventually, not sure how or when though. Israel has younger demographics, because Israelis and Palestinians have attempted out breeding each other,which benefits Israel in a conflict. Iran otoh has 10x more people and vastly more land and natural resources.

If the US invades Iran, then Iran would deploy enough drones to kill many US troops. Ukrainian drones kill 30k Russian troops per month. Iran could not do so much against the US, since the US would never use such sacrificial tactics, but the US only accepted 60k dead and 150k wounded in Vietnam, and moral would suck going in. Also, the US has 1.5 million military personnel, but of this only 150k have real combat roles, and the rest do tech & logistics jobs. And a draft sounds untenable.

Also the possible twists mostly favour Iran: Iran can mine the whole strait, not just the Oman side like now. Iran can hit US pipelines and refineries asymmetrically. Iran could shoot down US spy satellites, if the Chinese sell them the technology. Russia or NK could decide that giving Iran nukes made sense, even assuming Iran does not obtain nukes themselves.

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Jovan_Knight005@reddit

Iran didn't even start the war this time, the United States of America and Isreal did.

But the comment's on point, regardless.

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TheIrishWanderer@reddit

On a side note, I'm curious what you're referencing from 1999.

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Jovan_Knight005@reddit

Operation Allied Force,the 78 day long aerial bombing campaign that 19 countries that were members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) bombed the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (FRY) without approval from the United Nations Security Council (UNSC). It had opened a Pandora's Box that is probably not going to be closed in our lifetimes.

Not to mention the consequences that over ten thousand tonnes of depleted uranium ammunition being dropped on military and civilian infrastructure in Serbia, Montenegro and the Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija) have on the environment and the civilian population, even in 2026.

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Key_Pace_2496@reddit

Yeah, India is kind of fucked at this point. If you live there and have the ability to leave you kind of need to get on that.

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gmuslera@reddit

The Ministry for the Future, first chapter, but with a whole country instead of a single city, for the sequel.

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StatementBot@reddit

The following submission statement was provided by /u/mutherhrg:

This continues to highlight that the most climate vulnerable nations are in south Asia. And two of said South Asians nations have nukes and hate each other. I can't see this ending well, not to mention the possible involvement of China.

And somehow even with India and Pakistan staring down the barrel of civilization ending heatwaves within a few years, nobody seems to be paying attention to this groundbreaking piece of news.

The current fuel crisis that we're in also doesn't help the situation. Will we see large scale blackouts and load shedding in June?

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