They're retarded. It's like people review bombing Slay the Spire 2 cause that Ana whatever was a consultant. They never got over their 2015 identity politics victimhood. The rest of the world moved on
Even if it were, the OP only posted one of 4 inclusion standards, of which films need to meet 2/4 to qualify. Simultaneously it "could" be true that Oppenheimer didn't meet this standard, but that Nolan chose the casting to check the diversity criteria.
He threw in his ultimate finisher move anyways by casting Elliot Page as Achilles. I can't wait for the victim posts from them when their character is lambasted online for the insane casting choice. Forget the whole trans thing for a second and imagine Achilles as a 5'1 emaciated baby man with a feminine voice.
Where are all the crazy leftists and woke people that were 100% against stuff like this. "How can a white country put white actors in stories to make it relatable to them!!!!"
But also, "We need to recast every story made by white people and also rewrite it so we can relate to it!"
It's always amazing how they can never see their own hypocrisy and they will also act like they never said it.
Or with their stupid "you can't be racist to people in power, and white men are the ones in power!"
But as soon as you throw that point back at them and point out the tiny hats that own and run everything, you're a bigot,racist,incel nazi.
When you strip away all the rhetoric and obfuscation, every single leftist policy boils down to hating white people. Every principle and double standard follows from this simple premise. Seriously, try to think of one leftist policy that isn't in some way punishing white people or promoting white genocide. It's the only thing they're consistent on.
Overwhelmingly left wing teachers indoctrinate children to perceive progressive values as the default position, push CRT, and promote LGBT trendism to reduce birth rates in white countries.
Between Animal Farm, the new Gladiator movie, and now this, I feel like Hollywood is intentionally trying to make bad movies out of what should be gold mines.
They make their money off of investors like Black Rock and such. A hit gets taken at the box office but the money is made in investments and tax write-offs. It is more about the social engineering, revelation of the method and inversion of reality.
That's one stipulation out of a choice of about 10. One of them is literally just hiring some interns, which is what he did on Oppenheimer (almost entirely white cast of men) that won Oscars.
Reading all the redditors rabidly defending the casting of a Sub-Saharan woman in her 40s as a Greek character who is described as fair-skinned and blonde is genuinely mind-blowing. It's not surprising at all, but I thought we were past peak woke.
It's like seeing the emperor with no clothes, while Redditors rabidly clap and cheer him on for wearing the most beautiful attire ever, call anyone who disagrees a racist chud, engage in the most bizarre mental gymnastics, and endlessly move the goalposts
It's one thing to not like the choice, despite the fact that I like Lupita she wouldn't have been my first choice but to believe the movie is gonna be shit just because of that? Not only sounds racist, its also pretty stupid.
I still can't figure out why these people of the film industry still care about Oscar. The public no longer care about it, and when the news about Harvey Weinstein being able to influence the outcome of it, it validate our view even more.
Now, why do these people still try to win an Oscar is beyond me.
Its rich people needing recognition from rich people at a rich people party. The Oscars arent for us, it’s for them. It’s a victory lap over the working class that they feel compelled to take every damn year. The Oscars, The Met Gala, all of these retarded events.
People like recognition for what they did. Jim carrey was also right about the awards shows, its bloated af because they all got filthy rich and lost humility. Competition does that to people; it brings out the worst in people
I wonder if you could get around the race quotas by hiring pale skinned Latinos, North African, white South African and West Asian actors... they're "ethnic minorities" but visually indistinguishable from Greeks, Italians and Spaniards.
I've said it in the last thread: The Illiad talks a lot about Ethiopian mercenaries under Nubian King Memnon fighting for Troy, and Homer praises their beauty and bravery at length. The ancient Greeks even gave Memnon a spin-off in form of his own literary epic, the Aethiopis. There's an actual literary and most likely historical basis for black people being involved in the battle for Troy that Nolan could have used. Just make Ulysses save Memnon's son from Achilles' wrath out of mercy, make him part of his crew, and teach him the ways of forgiveness - or whatever. It's really not that difficult to introduce black people in a way that is both historically plausible and close to the original narrative.
You can write as many paragraphs as you want and posts as many sources as possible, I'm still never gonna see Jesus as anything but a white dude or the little mermaid as a white redhead and will see anything other than that as stupid.
It could be flashbacks as we also see the horse. I dont think oddyseus returns to Troy so outside of flashbacks we shouldnt be seeing helen or achilles
She's definitely not ugly, but I wouldn't go out of my way to say she's the most beautiful woman alive. She's way over hyped, imho. I don't get the appeal of the plastic smooth skin and shiny forehead. Flat as a board, too.
Does it make textually any sense? I only know the archaeological perspective, and also not very well, but from my knowledge of Aegean LBA wall paintings women were depicted exclusively with white skin (contrary to men who were reddish-brown), so I guess that would not be the case if the most beautiful mortal woman at the time inversed that aspect.
But then again I probably shouldn't even ask this; this is Hollywood, they cast Christian Bale as Moses...
That's one stipulation out of a choice of about 10. One of them is literally just hiring some interns, which is what he did on Oppenheimer (almost entirely white cast of men) that won Oscars.
Snoot_Boot@reddit
Why is everyone here and on 4chan reacting to a crop of what is most likely a bot posting fake outrage articles?
I see this weekly on this sub, i can't tell if I'm out of the loop on something or if you're all this retarded
BongWaterRamen@reddit
They're retarded. It's like people review bombing Slay the Spire 2 cause that Ana whatever was a consultant. They never got over their 2015 identity politics victimhood. The rest of the world moved on
wolphak@reddit
%47 negative out of 200k reviews. The rest of the world didn't move on you just live in a echo chamber lol.
BongWaterRamen@reddit
I live in the real world where none of this shit matters. The only place you find people screeching about a Nolan movie is online
GreeksWorld@reddit
Your account exceeds 100K karma, the claim that you live in the real world has been invalidated.
cell689@reddit
I mean how can you judge the situation if you have no idea what it's even about.
ThePlumKing@reddit
Nolan should have just said fuck the rules, made an amazing movie, and then dare the academy to snub the film
Rowboat_of_Theseus@reddit
What the fuck are you people talking about, Oppenheimer had almost no black people and still won a shit ton
Reddit_Throwaway_899@reddit
It was submitted before the DEI rules were in effect.
Ibrahim77X@reddit
How convenient for this point
0110-0-10-00-000@reddit
This isn't exactly obscure.
Ibrahim77X@reddit
Alright, they came into effect in time for the 2024 Oscar’s…which means the Oppenheimer point is still relevant.
0110-0-10-00-000@reddit
Even if it were, the OP only posted one of 4 inclusion standards, of which films need to meet 2/4 to qualify. Simultaneously it "could" be true that Oppenheimer didn't meet this standard, but that Nolan chose the casting to check the diversity criteria.
Ordinary_Cat8495@reddit
I thought picrel was just schizoposting. Holy shit
DonnieMoistX@reddit
Jews are an underrepresented group by their standards.
dddeaddd@reddit
This is antimemeitic hate speech.
LateNightDoober@reddit
If you are wondering who the fuck is regarded enough to be mad about Slay the Spire 2, and the Last of us 2, these are those people.
I_Don-t_Care@reddit
After the bomb hit a lot of people were charred, dont be ignorant
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Shiiiieeeeeeematta
thereoncewasahat@reddit
Cillian Murphy is Irish.
Loy deedoy deeDumbs are honorary blacks.
HanselSoHotRightNow@reddit
He threw in his ultimate finisher move anyways by casting Elliot Page as Achilles. I can't wait for the victim posts from them when their character is lambasted online for the insane casting choice. Forget the whole trans thing for a second and imagine Achilles as a 5'1 emaciated baby man with a feminine voice.
Raider2747@reddit
He's not playing Achilles. You fell for ragebait.
He's playing Elpenor (the youngest member of the crew and the first to appear to Odysseus in Hades).
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
I can't wait for the leftists to simp for the large corporations and whine that the chuds aren't buying the product.
BrocoliAssassin@reddit
Where are all the crazy leftists and woke people that were 100% against stuff like this. "How can a white country put white actors in stories to make it relatable to them!!!!" But also, "We need to recast every story made by white people and also rewrite it so we can relate to it!"
It's always amazing how they can never see their own hypocrisy and they will also act like they never said it.
Or with their stupid "you can't be racist to people in power, and white men are the ones in power!"
But as soon as you throw that point back at them and point out the tiny hats that own and run everything, you're a bigot,racist,incel nazi.
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
When you strip away all the rhetoric and obfuscation, every single leftist policy boils down to hating white people. Every principle and double standard follows from this simple premise. Seriously, try to think of one leftist policy that isn't in some way punishing white people or promoting white genocide. It's the only thing they're consistent on.
pVom@reddit
Public education?
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Overwhelmingly left wing teachers indoctrinate children to perceive progressive values as the default position, push CRT, and promote LGBT trendism to reduce birth rates in white countries.
pVom@reddit
Ok better not educate poor people so instead of contributing to society they can be braindead dumbasses stealing your shit.
It's clear the education system failed you
pVom@reddit
I'm convinced this shit is a marketing strategy by bean counting corpos.
I don't even hear about these shit movies except from conservative chuds spitting cheetos
feesih0ps@reddit
wait how is Lupita NBongo getting casting the controversy here
COWonROIDZ@reddit
Because there’s not actually a confirmation what role Page is playing.
I_Don-t_Care@reddit
Whenever i see elliot page i can only imagine michael cera busting a nut inside juno
droogvertical@reddit
That would require Nolan to be something more than a boring uncreative hack who makes grey colorless films that suck.
PuddlesRex@reddit
Between Animal Farm, the new Gladiator movie, and now this, I feel like Hollywood is intentionally trying to make bad movies out of what should be gold mines.
dddeaddd@reddit
They make their money off of investors like Black Rock and such. A hit gets taken at the box office but the money is made in investments and tax write-offs. It is more about the social engineering, revelation of the method and inversion of reality.
AOC_Gynecologist@reddit
"the message" is the real product.
RobertOfHill@reddit
What message does the abortion that is Animal Farm supposed to have?
Searril@reddit
Capitalism bad
OldManChino@reddit
A kids movie anon
ahackercalled4chan@reddit
they're too busy "forcing behaviors" to try to make money
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Movies?
PLoxeus@reddit
If they are going to replace white characters with black actresses they could at least pick hot ones
jericho-dingle@reddit
Chicongo got a rise out of me
kerelberel@reddit
Where you howling and cackling?
donovan1983@reddit
At his desk, I imagine
MediocreFox@reddit
Does anyone have a spare bucket of chicken and bottle of Hennessy?
jericho-dingle@reddit
Chicken and Hennessy are delicious man
TMWNN@reddit
Spike Lee made a film about Chicago gangs called "Chiraq"!
BBWArchitect@reddit
Fourth Anon speaks the truth. But also the value of fried chicken is way beyond the value of what is being traded.
Tony_Roiland@reddit
That's one stipulation out of a choice of about 10. One of them is literally just hiring some interns, which is what he did on Oppenheimer (almost entirely white cast of men) that won Oscars.
Searril@reddit
Jewish people aren't white, they've made that clear
xgudghfhgffgddgg@reddit
Maybe they should add a requirement for the movie to be good to be eligible for the Oscars.
XanII@reddit
This movie will get more oscars than Dances with Wolves
Sunifred@reddit
Reading all the redditors rabidly defending the casting of a Sub-Saharan woman in her 40s as a Greek character who is described as fair-skinned and blonde is genuinely mind-blowing. It's not surprising at all, but I thought we were past peak woke.
It's like seeing the emperor with no clothes, while Redditors rabidly clap and cheer him on for wearing the most beautiful attire ever, call anyone who disagrees a racist chud, engage in the most bizarre mental gymnastics, and endlessly move the goalposts
Longjumping-Body-601@reddit
It's one thing to not like the choice, despite the fact that I like Lupita she wouldn't have been my first choice but to believe the movie is gonna be shit just because of that? Not only sounds racist, its also pretty stupid.
havyng@reddit
Oh no so le hecking racist
DronkeyDangus@reddit
Sure. So what if they cast a fair-skinned, blonde woman to play her role in 12 Years a Slave?
DreamsServedSoft@reddit
4chan can’t hold a candle to the contrarian skill of Redditors
MrMolester@reddit
I still can't figure out why these people of the film industry still care about Oscar. The public no longer care about it, and when the news about Harvey Weinstein being able to influence the outcome of it, it validate our view even more.
Now, why do these people still try to win an Oscar is beyond me.
RobertOfHill@reddit
Its rich people needing recognition from rich people at a rich people party. The Oscars arent for us, it’s for them. It’s a victory lap over the working class that they feel compelled to take every damn year. The Oscars, The Met Gala, all of these retarded events.
Ibrahim77X@reddit
It’s still a really prestigious movie award lol it’s not that hard to figure out
philmarcracken@reddit
People like recognition for what they did. Jim carrey was also right about the awards shows, its bloated af because they all got filthy rich and lost humility. Competition does that to people; it brings out the worst in people
gorgias1@reddit
Dumb. Oppenheimer on best picture.
MajikoiA3When@reddit
We wuz greeks or Cleopatra was black moment
Mucking_Maggots@reddit
big H too
suica1983@reddit
Mozart too!
JustChillin3456@reddit
I can’t wait for Ai to nuke Hollywood
ControlThat8187@reddit
They will never allow this power in the hands of the general population.
YinuS_WinneR@reddit
I am waiting for this but in videogames. Current ai vns are shitty yes but im sure one day we will have proper action games with ai dms.
godotiswaitingonme@reddit
AI produces garbage, that’s why
WafflesOfChaos@reddit
Dude, have you seen Dripwarts School of Drip? It's already leagues above the diarrhea that HBO is churning out.
HonestLemon25@reddit
AI is objectively anti human but for this reason I support it. Inshallah Hollywood is destroyed by AI
JustChillin3456@reddit
Hollywood is also anti human
The enemy of my enemy …
jawwa_jawwa@reddit
Is my enemy.
Hisenflaye@reddit
This is what I'm waiting for. We are nearly there now, with The Patchwright etc
theglowcloudred@reddit
If you think that The Patchwright and similar are "nearly there", it's probably for the best that you stay away from real cinema anyway.
Ptar_Migan@reddit
With the pace that tech progresses? A proof of concept this year will be a much different beast sooner than later
Hisenflaye@reddit
I understand your snark, but my main point was ai slop is better than what Hollywood is currently giving us. But I will follow your advice, unironicly
Ibrahim77X@reddit
Nah fuck that. Human-made for better out worse
Patience-Frequent@reddit
this movie is the biggest rage bait in history
RatioTechnical234@reddit
Nolan could've just cast that Daenerys Targaryen woman. Just give her a long blond wig this time, and voila, you've got your canon Helen of Troy.
Battle_Biscuits@reddit
I wonder if you could get around the race quotas by hiring pale skinned Latinos, North African, white South African and West Asian actors... they're "ethnic minorities" but visually indistinguishable from Greeks, Italians and Spaniards.
Icy_Special_5836@reddit
No, since it’s not about being diverse but being anti-white.
NoSoundNoFury@reddit
I've said it in the last thread: The Illiad talks a lot about Ethiopian mercenaries under Nubian King Memnon fighting for Troy, and Homer praises their beauty and bravery at length. The ancient Greeks even gave Memnon a spin-off in form of his own literary epic, the Aethiopis. There's an actual literary and most likely historical basis for black people being involved in the battle for Troy that Nolan could have used. Just make Ulysses save Memnon's son from Achilles' wrath out of mercy, make him part of his crew, and teach him the ways of forgiveness - or whatever. It's really not that difficult to introduce black people in a way that is both historically plausible and close to the original narrative.
Skywarper@reddit
You can write as many paragraphs as you want and posts as many sources as possible, I'm still never gonna see Jesus as anything but a white dude or the little mermaid as a white redhead and will see anything other than that as stupid.
ahackercalled4chan@reddit
stop trying to make excuses for DEI casting
SpringwoodOhio1428@reddit
Why would he ever care about getting oscars?
Ibrahim77X@reddit
It’s a prestigious movie award?
Skywarper@reddit
To the other pedophiles in Hollywood, yes.
fatjoe19982006@reddit
That broad looks like a crack whore.
mafiamasta@reddit
Damn yall so butt hurt
Who cares? Sure it's something to talk about but does anyone actually care?
2026 Adaption of a book from the god damn 7th century BC. Made by the director of a superhero movie.
Who cares. Watch or not. Don't make a talking point decide how you feel.
If you're disappointed by the decision you disagree with being made by someone you respect then welcome to earth
Hot-Explanation-5751@reddit
Is this a true explanation??
tonysopranoesque@reddit
That DEI requirement thing is real?
spunk_wizard@reddit
She looks bloody good for 43 though, to be fair
LPBPR@reddit
FYI Christopher Nolans rehab announcement incoming, just waiting for the standard Hollywood DUI arrest....
Harambefan69@reddit
Anora literally won best picture a year ago and there are no brown people in the movie
Doodenelfuego@reddit
Women are considered an underrepresented group
Here's the list of rules
Virgil_Rug_Say_RUG@reddit
holy shit this is so cancerous
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Wait, does this mean I can now be racist against women?
TrueBooBoo@reddit
“Underrepresented racial/ethnic group”
The full cast will not look like they should either way so maybe Nolan decided that he would go for full brownie points with Hollywood.
Virgil_Rug_Say_RUG@reddit
is that 30% rule a real thing written somewhere in the oscar guidelines or something?
Iamredditsslave@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/comments/1td77b4/anons_discuss_the_odyssey/olts9qy/
KlinkKlink@reddit
sasuga
TheMoonandTheThief@reddit
-fly_away-@reddit
should be all Greeks and Mediterranean, tanned olive skin, not whites you bunch of retards
cc81@reddit
The events of the Odyssey is some 10-20 years after the start of the war. So depending on when she shows up she would be the correct age.
not_pletterpet@reddit
It could be flashbacks as we also see the horse. I dont think oddyseus returns to Troy so outside of flashbacks we shouldnt be seeing helen or achilles
thisguy883@reddit
They have a point.
I guess Nolan is trying to win as many awards as he can.
Hollywood is such a damn joke.
Tony_Roiland@reddit
The rules haven't changed since he made Oppenheimer. Which is almost entirely white dudes. And it won Oscars.
oneshot0114@reddit
He would not dare to cast black people as the scientists behind one of humanity's most destructive inventions
FunkalicouseMach1@reddit
My ginger
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
The lead actor is Ir*sh so basically black
Positive-Face1705@reddit
All I see is a bunch of sheep being lured and rawed by ragebait marketing.
cumble_bumble@reddit
Idk what everyone here is yapping about but I just want to say that woman is gorgeous
ChiefSitsOnCactus@reddit
she is fugly
cumble_bumble@reddit
Are you perhaps homosexual
ChiefSitsOnCactus@reddit
are you perhaps a zoophile ?
cumble_bumble@reddit
If you can't appreciate the beauty of a black woman because you are a racist prick then that's your loss 🤷🏼♂️
Skywarper@reddit
She's definitely not ugly, but I wouldn't go out of my way to say she's the most beautiful woman alive. She's way over hyped, imho. I don't get the appeal of the plastic smooth skin and shiny forehead. Flat as a board, too.
hondacco@reddit
Everyone knows the Trojan War didnt happen, right? This was always a fairy tale....
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
That's a far-right anti-Hellenic conspiracy theory, someone ban this bigot.
Skywarper@reddit
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
Greeks are underrepresented
8last@reddit
What good is an Oscar if nobody watches it? Is this just for rich people to pass money back and forth?
SKRyanrr@reddit
Chicongo 💀
WheresTotoro@reddit
The storyline is about Ithacans who are a massively underrepresented group.
s0lja@reddit
Chuddisey
AlyxxStarr@reddit
Eh… would
hfFvx4G6xU4ZEgzhSM9g@reddit
Is that a joke? Lol
Nolan has lost his mind.
regimentIV@reddit
Does it make textually any sense? I only know the archaeological perspective, and also not very well, but from my knowledge of Aegean LBA wall paintings women were depicted exclusively with white skin (contrary to men who were reddish-brown), so I guess that would not be the case if the most beautiful mortal woman at the time inversed that aspect.
But then again I probably shouldn't even ask this; this is Hollywood, they cast Christian Bale as Moses...
rumSaint@reddit
Last anon is spitting facts.
Tony_Roiland@reddit
That's one stipulation out of a choice of about 10. One of them is literally just hiring some interns, which is what he did on Oppenheimer (almost entirely white cast of men) that won Oscars.
LowOwl4312@reddit
@grok replace her with Japanese teenager