They hated him for telling the truth

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wafflepiezz@reddit

How tf does China have standard living equal to Brazil?

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PhilReotardos@reddit

China is ranked higher in economic output, job security, safety, infrastructure and global influence, but Brazil ranks higher in big fat asses, so the overall standard of living is roughly the same

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mandrewsf@reddit

If you put it like that, it's really Brazil > China

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OhHeyMister@reddit

China has fought 5.8 billion women, and not one fat ass. Thanks, communism!

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MindGoblin@reddit

That's what happens when you distribute the ass-fat equally

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llamaz314@reddit

They have that one thing but Chinese women are 100% better than Brazilians IMO. Will be controversial but it needs to be said

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Glonos@reddit

A fake and gay within the comment section?

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viciouspandas@reddit

I don't think you can really say which women are better anywhere, but a lot of the younger women in China, especially the wealthier ones, are extremely entitled and spoiled.

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m3m31ord@reddit

You can find brazilian chinese women with fat asses and asian features.

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ZarathustraGlobulus@reddit

Most chinese people are skinny. The obesity rate is really low. So there are no phat ass bitches, unlike Brazil. That by itself lowers the standard of living by 40-45%

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RealScionEcto@reddit

Because most chinese live in poverty, and their biggest investment, property just was nuked.

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They're in a similar HDI because their per capita GDP PPP is similar, China has a higher life expectancy, and Brazil has slightly higher education levels, which is mostly due to the older generation. You aren't sending 50 year old rural migrants back to school, but their kids are getting educated. The index doesn't take into account crime, and only the GDP effects of failing infrastructure are considered.

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Reading_username@reddit

At risk of being a China glazer, I lived there for 3 months one summer and it is absolutely not the same standard of living as in Brazil.

I never once was afraid for my safety or property in China, but in Brazil people are frequently robbed or burgled. Even sitting in cars in traffic.

Sure foreigners in China can suffer from political challenges or infrastructure concerns, but incidents are rare comparatively.

Also lets not pretend Brazil has public transit or technology on the same tier as China.

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AsleepExplanation160@reddit

to put it simply, you went to the tier 1 cities.

And if China is getting a similar score with low crime stats, then that means they're falling behind elsewhere

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LesserValkyrie@reddit

"If a country is willing to enforce the law then it has a lot of hidden issues"

What 3rd world thoughts is that lol

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AsleepExplanation160@reddit

Basically if they're overall scoring the same as Brazil, then they're behind somewhere when they're far ahead in saftey, although as other comments have pointed out HDI doesn't include crime. And China's score is heavily linked to the poorly educated older generations

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Schweckel@reddit

I think it's funny when europeans and americans say that rural china is so backwards compared to the "first world" but then forget that bulgaria and Mississippi exist. Kinda hypocritical I think.

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Vegetable_Review4967@reddit

Their crime rate is low because they are a police state with mass surveillance, and because of corruption

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viciouspandas@reddit

Corruption generally increases crime which is part of why Brazil with its comical levels of corruption has so much. Crime is lower in China because it's a police state and because of cultural reasons.

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Beebah-Dooba@reddit

“Police state” with a quarter of my Western nation’s incarceration rate. How does that work?

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Slide-Maleficent@reddit

Chinese corruption is massive, but mostly internal to the party. For an example, if you try to bribe a cop into letting you off a basic street crime - assuming you aren't a foreign national who can be deported - they'll probably be sending one of their execution vans for you.

Say, however, you are a nepotized low-tier party official - only there because daddy tongued Mao's butthole once - in charge of filling out form 140-51-B. If the yearly outcome of form 140-51-B is somehow important to continued prosperity of people above you in the party, they'll ensure you fill it out in a way that works for them and provide whatever cover you need to conceal the reality of whatever that form was meant to record.

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Vegetable_Review4967@reddit

Exactly what I meant. It's a more sophisticated form of corruption. The people that monitor the surveillance systems etc are paid off by the ones doing the crime, all from the same ccp party

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Slide-Maleficent@reddit

Definitely, but only about 7-8% of Chinese people are in the communist party - and only about 13% total are estimated to have anything approaching a usable CCP connection.

Major crime is internal and monopolized by the party - as well as being it's greatest weakness in overall functioning - but street crime tends to be lesser. Store and alley robberies are rare, and larger scale organized street crime is either non-existent (very hard to get drugs there) or basically run by the state through an intermediary (gambling dens, prostitutions, etc)

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Beebah-Dooba@reddit

Where did you travel then? What was your experience?

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Reading_username@reddit

We stayed a few days in lower tier cities. I was in Datong for 5 days, which is like a tier 3 or 4 city.

Id still rather live there than anywhere in Brazil.

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march__________@reddit

Datong was great, wouldn’t say it’s a tier 3 or 4 city tho. I then went in the villages of my girlfriends’s grandparents and those are truly rural cities. But It felt safe, I wouldn’t feel safe in the Brazilian equivalent

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lolopiro@reddit

urban places in brazil is where you shoudnt feel safe, not rural.

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DarkScorpion48@reddit

Lol at the fucking downvotes by gringos

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SteveImNot@reddit

Have you been to Brazil?

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Fangslash@reddit

Crime is generally infrequent enough that the perception is more tied to media reports rather than real prevalence

If China is truly crime-free then you wouldn’t have anti-theft grates on every apartment unit

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viciouspandas@reddit

Usually these comparisons use human development index, which is a combination of GDP per capita PPP, education, and life expectancy. Crime isn't part of that and it's hard to make an index that captures everything.

China is very much a middle income country with lots of inequality like Brazil, but if crime and infrastructure are important to you, then China is doing way better.

China's HDI is a little higher than Brazil's with similar incomes but higher life expectancy and lower education levels. I'm think the younger generation is more educated, but since they developed more recently, the older generation is significantly less educated, and it's not like they're going to go back to school at 50.

So while both are in a similar range, I would still say that China has a better quality of life because worrying about getting shot and the quality of the trains aren't captured in the index.

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poop-machines@reddit

Agreed. China's developments have been recent. This means it takes statistics time to catch up. For example, older people have spent most of their lives living in a low income, low regulation, and low HDI country. Most older people in China also smoke. It would make sense that after so many years poor, they'd have a lower life expectancy.

In the average 70 year olds lifetime in China, things have changes so much more than the average 70 year olds in Brazil. It will take statistics time to catch up.

One thing I should mention however is that 65% of china's population is tier 4 or lower. This means that even lesser visited (by tourists) tier 3 cities are well above average for China. The rural folk still have a pretty bad quality of life that isn't better than Brazil, imo. Note: I haven't been to Brazil but I have been to close, similar gdp, south American countries.

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StormOfFatRichards@reddit

What are Brazil's tier 1 cities like

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mooowolf@reddit

says someone who has never been to any city in China at all

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nsaisspying@reddit

yeah yeah yeah why use a standardized measure like standard of living when you can use one guy's experience for a period of 3 months.

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barryhakker@reddit

China earned some level of glazing, but don’t forget that that the majority of people there still live in pretty shitty conditions. Lived there 10 years and travelled a lot.

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LazyBoyXD@reddit

Which country doesnt have people living in shitty condition anw

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Reading_username@reddit

Switzerland

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analthunderbird@reddit

Do you know that for a fact? I wouldn’t be so sure

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LesserValkyrie@reddit

I live in Switzerland and yes it's quite equally good everywhere.

It's not that hard considering it's a very small country.

I'd say from what I remembere that the italian part is enclaved a bit far from the rest of the country, and there is not a lot of jobs there expecially considering all the Italians want to work here, but it's still swiss standards.

I'd say the worst and poorests village in Switzerland is still better to live in than any city in Europe

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barryhakker@reddit

Sure Wang Ming, deflect. The point was that China has a tendency of shaping to narrative to make itself look good, and we shouldn’t forget many people still don’t have it great there. Same as with any other nation.

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LazyBoyXD@reddit

im not gonna deny that lol but which country dont try to make themselves look good? Like which major country haven't tried to make them look better then they are?

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yumstheman@reddit

You don’t need kidnapping insurance when traveling to China. That’s all you need to know.

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newgrounds@reddit

I don't need it in Brazil either

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SalvationSycamore@reddit

You don't, but your family would benefit from the money when you disappear

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newgrounds@reddit

Don't have one

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LesserValkyrie@reddit

did they get kidnapped

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roehnin@reddit

I was kidnapped in China.
Had to jump out of a moving car.

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Softspokenclark@reddit

China also organ harvesting on the same tier as Brazil

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yumstheman@reddit

They harvest those from ethnic minorities in shadow prisons, which does affect my need for kidnapping insurance.

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Dogulol@reddit

they are not israel bro

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SalvationSycamore@reddit

They do that to domestic minorities, not tourists. Big difference.

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sm753@reddit

I've been to China and Brazil. Nobody in China has ever advised that I carry I "fake" wallet and phone to give to muggers when they mug me...Brazil though...yes.

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NakeleKantoo@reddit

Rio de janeiro? not even Brazilians wanna go there

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OverMistyMountains@reddit

LOL Rio is unbelievably nice with gorgeous people.

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NakeleKantoo@reddit

just like the rest of brazil, yk what doesnt happen in the rest of the country tho? the extreme amount of gang violence

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WintersbaneGDX@reddit

My experience in Brazil: met a pair of men selling their bodies on the street. They both had large fake breast implants (despite obvious male features, beards etc). They said their pimps forced them to get these implants against their will because it was more popular with the customers.

My experience with China: they cheat in online games.

Conclusion: both nations are equally garbage

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Masak0vske@reddit

Not sure if this is supposed to be a joke, but if it's serious, you aren't really good at drawing conclusions. Putting sexual slavery and cheating in online games in the equal category of evilness is pretty dense

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yaoikat@reddit

Do you know what a joke is? 💀💀💀

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Masak0vske@reddit

Not sure if this is supposed to be a joke DO YOU KNOW WHAT A JOKE IS!!!!

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Reading_username@reddit

first day on the internet?

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Masak0vske@reddit

You can think of it that way, yes. English isn't my first language either, so the task of telling if it's a joke or not becomes harder, too

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NapoleonNewAccount@reddit

Is sarcasm not a concept in Russian? Or did all your funny people get sent to Ukraine?

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new_KRIEG@reddit

Git gud scrub

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GFRSSS@reddit

It is sarcasm very common in this sub

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RockerGamer10@reddit

Clearly cheating in online games is far worse, shame on them.

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Masak0vske@reddit

Sometimes I encounter takes so stupid I can't tell if the OP is joking or actually this dumb. On Reddit, it's either a hundred signs the post is a joke, or none at all. So if that was indeed a joke, don't mind me

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biscuitboyisaac21@reddit

It was very clearly a joke.

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WintersbaneGDX@reddit

It was indeed a joke, but not a lie. I really did meet those guys.

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WintersbaneGDX@reddit

LMAO

Where do you think you are, son?

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crabvogel@reddit

damn i hate cheaters

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Lazzyrus@reddit

The only correct thing to do when speaking about China is to glaze it when people talk bad about it and to talk shit about it when people glaze it.

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b3rn13mac@reddit

yeah my company had an on-call bodyguard for whenever people needed to go to brazil

not the case for china lol

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donchaldo21@reddit

Ngl living in Japan sounds horrible.

Like to visit but not to live there...

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Cojo840@reddit

Brazil is not actively failing as civilization

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DEEP_SEA_MAX@reddit

First of all Taiwan is beautiful and should definitely be a tourist destination for anyone visiting that part of the world, but that’s not a picture of Taiwan.

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ElgdFwTaP1@reddit

It’s Wulai hot springs in New Taipei City Taiwan

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DEEP_SEA_MAX@reddit

My wife says “pi la” (bullshit) that isn’t Wulai but I don’t know man all you Asians look the same to me.

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ElgdFwTaP1@reddit

https://maps.app.goo.gl/958Pz8ottvEPxUyu7

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DEEP_SEA_MAX@reddit

Well I guess that settles it, my wife apparently is kind of a bai chu (dummy)

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0c_099@reddit

What's the point of having security, better infrastructure, cheap eletronic devices, better education system, higher standard of living but you can't enjoy coxinha or pão de queijo, or do a churrascão na laje with loud music? Its pointless, also, you can trashtalk the government as much as you want as long you don't start spreading lies or have power to get someone arrested for corruption

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Jinrex-Jdm@reddit

Living in Taiwan for 12 years... It's true. Plus the Cost of Living is not that high.

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j0shman@reddit

Been to Chine a couple of times, safe (apart from scooters every fucking where) and easy to travel around.

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Kevin_LeStrange@reddit

Is that Wulei village in the picture?

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bmcgowan89@reddit

I find it’s easier to just hate everywhere rather than learn about countries

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The_Demolition_Man@reddit

Post is a Japanese person arguing with a Brazilian

Reddit uses opportunity to attack America. Makes sense.

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peepers_meepers@reddit

they're always thinking about us <3

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vaterl@reddit

I’d chalk it up to daddy issues

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Ok_Dimension2051@reddit

It’s because we AmeriCAN not AmeriSHOULDN’T

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XiJinpingPressParody@reddit (OP)

源代码链接

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Slide-Maleficent@reddit

> be taiwan
> see Xi call 'private island'
> google 'why like private island'
> takes hint
'yo hoo - mr general secretary'
'we have beautiful small island with many young chinese'
'all are completely helpless and have small feet'
'why talk bomb? instead talk vacation!'

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wang439@reddit

Of course he loves to visit the, uh... "private island"

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RedSander_Br@reddit

As a brazilian, that dude is insane if he thinks Brazil is better then China, maybe in the 60s it was, but nowdays Brazil is on the same standard of living as current day Russia, and Russia is literally fighting a war.

TBH, China nowdays is even better then the US in some aspects.

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JucaLebre@reddit

Falou tudo

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ExcitableSarcasm@reddit

BBL Latinas vs some repressed society of NEETS and controlling housewives who will have sex with you once a year once you get married.

I know which way I'm going anons.

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analthunderbird@reddit

They don’t call it BBL for nothing

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AsbestosDude@reddit

Brazil is the last on the list by far

Its obviously 1. Japan 2. Taiwan 3. China 4. Brazil

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Tommson667@reddit

Taiwan actually has higher HDI than Japan (at least according to this source https://globaldatalab.org/shdi/table/shdi/CHN+JPN/?levels=1+4&interpolation=0&extrapolation=0), it has an actual multiparty democracy (instead of Japan where LDP basicly always wins) and should you happen to be an member of lbtq Taiwan has a bit better rights (it's one of the two nations in Asia where gay marriages can be preformed, other one being Thailand). So arguably in some aspects Taiwan is a actually a bit better place to live, though the threat of PRC and other factors can bump it down bellow Japan depending on what you prioritize.

But I agree, PRC is deffinetly 3rd place and Brazil 4th.

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sm753@reddit

My family is from Taiwan so I might to biased...but this 100%.

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ExcitableSarcasm@reddit

For what it's worth, neither China or Taiwan have women only carriages because groping isn't epidemic and normalised.

JP glaze is unreal.

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analthunderbird@reddit

“Normalized” is definitely pushing it, but yes it is a problem.

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AsbestosDude@reddit

Ya fair I think Taiwan and japan are pretty interchangeable on the list, I guess i put japan higher because of things like culture and city design with the high-speed trains.

Taiwan is incredible though.

Can they both be #1?

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O_Queiroz_O_Queiroz@reddit

Bundas e churrasco

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Dry_Blueberry6806@reddit

The fact that one is a tiny island with one big city and the other is the second most populated and third biggest country in the world probably has something to do there.

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iSailor@reddit

Taiwan does not have a standard of living equal to Japan. Taiwan is prosperous through TSMC but regular people live in decaying buildings, deep developing country vibes. Despite my sympathy to Taiwan, it's not comparable to Japan.

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cokeplusmentos@reddit

Ok but is Brazil turning footsteps into electricity? I don't think so

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Reading_username@reddit

Brazillian showers turn water into electricity though if you're not careful

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AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit

Brazil turns garbage into fire.

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EuGaguejei@reddit

Brazilians double jump so turning steps into electricity would be inefficient

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Zebedeuepaminondas@reddit

As a Brazilian having lived in both places, everyone is tripping here. Taiwan's infrastructure looks a lot more like Japan than China, as in everything was built in the 90s and it's just degrading ever since. Stuff in China is brand new.

In terms of quality of life: in all those 3 countries you will be expected to work like a slave doing overtime. In Brazil you're not, but there's a chance of getting robbed (mostly in big cities, the countryside is perfectly safe).

End of the day I'd rather be in Brazil, because I have lots of hobbies and interests and I see work as a means of maintaining those things I like. Also, I've always dreamed of owning land so nothing compares to my country, where you can buy 1000 square meters in the countryside for like 35 thousand dollars. If you just wanna make money and dedicate yourself to work, China is probably the best place to be right now. Wages in Taiwan and Japan are crap.

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