Do most people genuinely not know nor care about laws?
Posted by Hopeful_Addition7834@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 12 comments
I had this thought the other day that it seems to me that some people truly either don't know laws or don't care about them.
And I don't mean minor traffic rules, but basic contract and privacy rights and principles.
For example, if you stay in a traditional minded place, "Mr Workingclass Monkey" would not paint your house the color you want, due to it being wrong in his traditions.
Ziggity_Zac@reddit
Most actual police officers don't know, nor care about laws. They mostly try and bust you because they feel like you did something wrong.
LanceLynxx@reddit
To be fair most legislators, lawyers, and judges also don't know unless they spend several days looking over piles of books and papers
Expecting policemen and average people to know every law is unrealistic
Ya_Boi_Konzon@reddit
Good indication we should have less laws!
AitrusAK@reddit
In my experience, most people lack integrity - which is the core reason why they don't follow the law.
What I mean is that doing the right thing simply because it's the right thing to do is a foreign concept to them. Unless they benefit from performing an action (or refraining from it), they see no reason to do it.
It takes courage, impulse control, honesty, and accountability to do the right thing even when nobody is watching. Having the motivation to do the right thing when people are watching is easy, it's not so easy when the only one watching you is you.
Doing the right thing when everyone prefers the wrong thing is even harder - especially if peer pressure, political correctness, groupthink, and implied social reprisal for noncomfority is involved.
And to make things worse, a lot of people view that what is "right" means what is "right for me" and who cares about everyone else. They believe that everyone else is cheating and scheming to get ahead. They feel an urge to "get while the getting's good" or else they will be left behind if they don't do the same thing - and anybody who tries to compete fairly is a sucker and a loser.
From speeding, running red lights, and parking badly to lying on taxes, cheating on significant others, and doing the bare minimum at work - it all speaks to lack of integrity.
The constant competition - and the sense that they're never able to get ahead - makes them angry, entitled, jealous of others' success, and bitter.
That's why flopping is common in sports - the "if you ain't cheating you ain't trying" mindset, when in reality if you need to resort to cheating and shenanagians you're just proving that you don't deserve the win. It translates to everyday life. They don't get bothered or concerned about cheating the system / breaking the law. They get upset about getting caught because they feel like everyone else is getting away with it, so why shouldn't they?
Key-Contest-2879@reddit
This should be the top comment!
Aura_Raineer@reddit
I’m a bit confused about the point of this post.
I don’t fully agree that no one cares about laws it seems like we have too many people pushing for too many laws actually.
But I’m also unclear from the framing of OP, whom you are referring to, for example bringing up privacy laws etc seems to indicate that you are talking about members of law enforcement rather than the general public?
Susbirder@reddit
Not only to they not know about laws...they don't understand the concept of rights.
LanceLynxx@reddit
People never cared about laws. They care about the consequences of breaking them.
That's why coercion and violence is used by the State to enforce the law. Most people only understand the fist and boot.
OrvilleJClutchpopper@reddit
Probably the truest statement ever uttered.
Hopeful_Addition7834@reddit (OP)
I am not denying what you say, but I think even without morality, it is just more beneficial in the long-term to keep contracts.
Like, if I would "teach someone a lesson", they might just try to get revenge, so there is not much point in it.
DownrightCaterpillar@reddit
Lawrence Kohlberg's model of moral development, which has been in use for about 50 years, puts punishment avoidance as the first stage of moral development. According to his and his research associates' numerous experiments, most people top out at stage 3 or 4, which mean that the individuals either infer what's right or wrong from their personal acquaintances' feelings and opinions, or they infer from the law and strong cultural norms.
So, what that means is that a minority of people are at stage 4 (Law and Order orientation). So, yeah, most people don't care about the law in any meaningful sense.
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