Why do we have so many small countries? Why can't we just unite all of them into a big country called "Balkania"?🤔

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Aulawabe@reddit

1. It wouldn't be possible because we our self couldn't manage it.
Doesn't really need explanation for this one.

2. Others would not allow is even if we wanted to.
Historically other superpowers have wanted their own strong man in the region. Be it the west(Austria-Hungary/Germany/UK) or the east(Soviet Union/Russia and Turkey) They would want "their" guy to be running the show and they would do anything to make it so. No one wants a big dog. The west for sure wants smaller countries that can obey as do the Russians.

USA today would sure want to be a arbiter of some sort if this was anywhere nearly possible.

Personally in a perfect world as a Serb I would be all for. But It wouldn't work as there would always be someone wanting to dominate. We are not mature enough to even enter EU let alone form a greater Balkan country.

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morbihann@reddit

Some of us are already in a union of some sort. Catch up.

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Archaeopteryx111@reddit

Best comment. In terms of territory, only Romania is likely to peacefully reunite with Moldova at some point in the future.

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Arstanishe@reddit

the whole russian doll of transnistria -> moldova -> romania

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Glittering-Poet-2657@reddit

I feel like there’s also a good chance of Kosovo uniting with Albania.

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Jeffwv1965@reddit

Because of the deep love the Balkans have for one another- there is a reason Balkanisation is a term

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Connect-Friendship49@reddit

We all are just too specific people

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Basic-Sign-7144@reddit

The map is wrong. There is no country called Macedonia.

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Weary_Cable_3780@reddit

Croatia, Serbia, Slovenia and Bosnia and Herzegovina should form Yugoslavia Kosovo should unite with Albania Moldova should unite with Romania Macedonia should unite with Bulgaria

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tzoni_montana@reddit

all of these are Greece

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r-tty@reddit

Turkey, who forced Albania & parts of Bosnia to convert to islam a few hundred years ago, would disagree.

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Lizard_Of_Roz@reddit

It’s probably going to go further in the other direction. BiH is cracking at the seams lately. And Kosovo might get full international recognition at some point.

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Particular_Simple_30@reddit

America wouldn't like that

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ConsequenceKnown4012@reddit

Macedonia is Greece... this state over there is former yugoslave ...

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Embarrassed_Ad1722@reddit

Oh boy, here we go... You wanna start another Balkan war over who invented feta cheese?

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gligix@reddit

Unite Balkania! We would habe so many cool features

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ConfusedPhDLemur@reddit

Awful idea. I’m more than happy being in the EU.

The only new country I would support would be a Federal Europe, not this..

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Beautiful-Dish-6275@reddit

I mean, we are all probbaly gonna be in the EU country in like 30 years. Not that I mind, western Europe needs eastern Europe in the EU if it wants to make EU a relevant player in geopolitics.

Id rather have my country in the EU than be Chinas colony.

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naumovski-andrej@reddit

Yeah I don't think Macedonia is ever making it to the EU.

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Terrible_Wrap1928@reddit

thank god

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Active-Radish2813@reddit

Bulgaria will never lose its place as the most corrupt and poor EU country 💪

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sarcasmusex@reddit

How would you be China s colony? If anything EU seems to be usa s bitch at the moment. And all the inflation we are seeing in Europe has to do with US politics

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Beautiful-Dish-6275@reddit

EU is still far more resilient to USA than Croatia would be to China.

Look up what China is doing with Africa for example with belt and road initiative.

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No-Sandwich2225@reddit

Montenegro is basically a Chinese colony. They have sold themselves to China.

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Active-Radish2813@reddit

The "debt trap" stuff is frequently simplified and dramatized

Meanwhile the US blows up the world every Tuesday

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sarcasmusex@reddit

How? Even a comment from German chancellor triggered a wave of criticism, threats to withdraw military etc. Lets not talk about tariffs, threats to take Greenland, dependcy on gas and oil from USA. USA has way more control over EU than China has in Africa.

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Responsible_Chest116@reddit

I don’t think you would want in the EU, the smartest decision would be to make your own Balkan union as you would have more things in common and can legislate around those things.

The EU are a bunch of sleazy bureaucrats that would restrict and manage your countries direction based on their whim.

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Beautiful-Dish-6275@reddit

There arw Balkan sleazy bureaceats who want to control western countires, it goes both ways.

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Responsible_Chest116@reddit

Yes of course, but they are YOUR sleazy bureaucrats. Not France’s, Spain’s, Belgium et al.

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puzzledpanther@reddit

I'd rather have German bureaucrats do things than Greek bureaucrats.

In fact I'd be willing to lend my country's governemnt to the Japanese for a few decades so they can sort it out and teach our politicians how not to be fucking governing bums.

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Beautiful-Dish-6275@reddit

Tbh, i think all bureaucrats are equally bad, balkan and western.

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el_salinho@reddit

You think Balkan countries don’t have sleazy bureaucrats that restrict and manage their countries on their whim?

You really, seriously, think balkan countries are more functional than western europe?

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starlordbg@reddit

According to popular belief, the EU is about to collapse in the next few years /s

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Swimming-Salt-21@reddit

EU has been about to collapse for the past 20 years, and yet ammong EU citizens it’s very popular and many support it according to the polls.

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Wild-Dimension6232@reddit

And I'm hearing this for the last 30 of my 41 years on this planet while continuously seeing the same people ready to go flip burgers for 13e/h(minimum salary) in the very same EU.

It's strange how non of them went to the super liberal and humane Moscow or the technology wonder that in 5 years will be better than USA and EU together called China. So please stop with the bullshit

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That_One_Guy1357@reddit

According to scaremongers on the right, sure.

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Lin_Un@reddit

I wonder why …

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Should_have_been_ded@reddit

Last time we did that we named a salad after the assassinated emperor

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AgreeableFeedback868@reddit

Last time we had one y'all were rather upset about it

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Active-Radish2813@reddit

They'll have to invent a word for joining many small hostile policies into one, maybe balkanization

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Opening_Coast3412@reddit

Why Slovenia is a Balkan country while Hungary is not?

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sbepka@reddit

Crack open a history book on this region, and you'll find why.

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Eastern_Weather_8748@reddit

Leave Greece out of it. Only the Turkish part we keep. The rest is for the Slavs. Albania can join also.

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Kaiser-Kahan@reddit

Because we would fuck your mother when you dare to touch Istanbul.

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Mguener@reddit

Because at some point some fascists will start massacring others who think differently, who believe differently

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1stFunestist@reddit

It is interesting that that union takes only half of Greece and rest is (probably) given to Turks.

🥛🔥

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Katatoniac@reddit

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Kooky_Appeal_6554@reddit

How would this work? Three different Faith:

Christians: Katoliks and Ortodoks, and Muslims: Sunni and Bektashi

Only in Romania at Dobrogea is a peace to live together

https://www.rjontour.com/grand-mosque-constanta/

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gryspnik@reddit

The revolutionaries of the 19th century wanted to do exactly that. The imperialists of the time didn't want this because it'd create a very strong and strategically placed state that they wouldn't be able to control. Instead, they created a dozen impotent little countries that are under the full control of Germans, UK, France, USA and Russia

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Madatefute@reddit

You mean “foreverwar” country? 😂

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neobedirhan@reddit

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Voldypants_420@reddit

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Altruistic-Board5322@reddit

Con: a new genocide

Pro: We can make a movie though, captain Balkanika, smoking cigarettes, drinking 6 coffees per day and losing his money in slots machines

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albardha@reddit

That sounds like two pros to me.

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Altruistic-Board5322@reddit

😂 true balkan spirit you have there my friend

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username_not_found19@reddit

Only 6? Those are rookie numbers. You gotta pump up those numbers

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Saul_Andrei_2003@reddit

And being drunk all the time😂

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Vdd666@reddit

6 coffees and no alcohol? Must be the trailer

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Available_Bus_9010@reddit

Alcohol is expensive 👀

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Altruistic-Board5322@reddit

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Available_Bus_9010@reddit

"smoking cigarettes, drinking 6 coffees per day and losing his money in slots machines" THATS ME!

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xploiter1@reddit

I don’t see no alcohol in that list.

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Charming-Panic3561@reddit

Coffee is WITH alcohol

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rastgele_anime_fan42@reddit

Those are his nightly activities (except coffee, as that's the whole day), he drinks alcohol during the day

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name2sayMKD@reddit

We are united.........in hate/s

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hamsifalacata@reddit

It would be like super mega Yugoslavia and everyone would die

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haiwany@reddit

USA is ready to bring democracy to Balkania. Oo wait is there some oil here?

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adighaalan@reddit

Yeah the last time someone tried to unite the balkans, it didnt end up very "well"

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Aggravating-Milk-688@reddit

Yes, last time that idea turned out really great for everybody. Whole groups of people were so ecstatic about that very same idea—so unbelievably excited—that they disappeared from the face of the earth.

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Terrible_Wrap1928@reddit

spontaneous combustion out of excitement

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hihimorius@reddit

Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are not small, they are bigger than many West Europe countries

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SignificantMeet8747@reddit

we're all essentially a single country during the summer

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Terrible_Wrap1928@reddit

fr

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CryptographerKind632@reddit

why same stupid question over and over again!

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ZenaMeTepe@reddit

Laziness and human desire to live at someone elses expense. That's why.

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oldyellowcab@reddit

Let’s resurrect Romans / Eastern Romans / Ottomans / Austria-Hungarians. Brrr🥶🥵

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SentenceTop1585@reddit

been there, done that

once some countries become civil enough they will join EU

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

It’s still a long way unfortunately until some countries are having fascist fill whole stadiums in 2026. 😔

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SentenceTop1585@reddit

Not aware of any such happenings, but fascism is prohibited by law in EU

On the other hand, I can think of some countries run by fascists, with their youth massively protesting against them for a long time

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

It’s not the only thing ur not aware of so don’t bother my friend.

Future Croat generations will tell you

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SentenceTop1585@reddit

Oh well, being aware of things most of people aren't, doesn't make them true or important

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

Don’t worry brother

Average hreddit poster check soccer fan check

1+1=2

Let me guess black is ur favorite color to wear

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SentenceTop1585@reddit

actually blue and white, but I did go true my metal phase (only black) when I was your age

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ArteMyssy@reddit

you re simply jealous

you want Austria keeps the status of the biggest war criminal in the Balkans

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

I mean Austria banned you guys from gathering in bleiburg doing Hitler chants and called ur gathering (where ur official elected politicians appeared) fascist and a revisionism festival.

The Major just lately stated that the Croat government wanted the ban to be lifted, ofc it was aggressively rejected.

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RiverNo6782@reddit

chill Aleksandar

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mdouk@reddit

Corruption over 9000

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TurbulentVoice3475@reddit

You are new here huh?

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Longjumping_Turn_105@reddit

Austria here, hear me out before the Turks start speaking.

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Mr-Potato-Head99@reddit

I'd rather revive Byzantium than Austro-Hungary or the Ottomans.

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Able-Art-3042@reddit

yeah the hungarians have been quite terrible

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Yhuichy@reddit

Seethe

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Clear-Edge-3612@reddit

And it would be the second greatest country in all of southeastern Europe!

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mahnatazis@reddit

Yugoslavia existed at one point. It didn't include all the countries from this map. Let's just say it didn't exactly work out in the end.

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PeroCigla@reddit

Not gonna work.

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Captain3007@reddit

First Tsardom tried that and you didn't like it

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Johnbaptist69@reddit

Because it's north Macedonia, and they are Slavs. Also Albanians. Also Alexander was serb.

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Sashpeto@reddit

We haven't had a Balkans war in a while ...

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rastgele_anime_fan42@reddit

Yeah the sequel got boring, we need a threequel

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JufffoWup@reddit

The yugo wars were Balkan War III.

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rastgele_anime_fan42@reddit

I think that's more like a spin-off, as it included way more countries, way more time, and a whole different plot than the first two.

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baxulax@reddit

What a shitty map…why is Greece only half Balkan?

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MintCathexis@reddit

Short answer: mountains.

Long answer: history and mountains.

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Mountain_Radio8936@reddit

O shit here we go again...

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Nice-Panda-7981@reddit

United states of palinka

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Aromatic-Studio-137@reddit

Bot post

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2x_tag@reddit

Yes, call the country Battleworld.

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Financial-Cow-7263@reddit

civil war speedrun

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Late_Secret3480@reddit

You unite Macedonia with Greece except if you mean Scopia

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TurkOmbre@reddit

Countries like Romania are already quite large. Romania can easily house 40 million people; it just needs to have more children. On the other hand, Yugoslavia needs to be reborn; they speak the same language. Macedonia should be divided between Bulgaria and Albania, and Kosovo between Serbia and Albania.

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photo_master13@reddit

Because every "nation" there gets there first, and every nation has a very unique mentality, and every single nation has a very unique language. /S

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Grounds4TheSubstain@reddit

Because you've been killing each other for centuries, especially when forced into larger states that mix multiple ethnicities.

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

Please no, we don’t need more Frankenstein states

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ArteMyssy@reddit

das gute alte ”Serbien muss sterbien!”

Össi bleibt össi auch in der fünftten Generation

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

Are you okay ? Or you just struggle with German ?

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ArteMyssy@reddit

i am struggling with verkappten nazis

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

You guys have an unhealthy obsession with Austria and hating it.

Get some therapy

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ArteMyssy@reddit

don t be delusional, Austria doesn t really count

but an Austrian calling the project of an united south-Slavic state "Frankenstei", reveals his habsburgsnazi genes

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

i am an Austrian Serb and not really, most serbs and croats reject Yugoslavia.

Why would any Serbs simp or look back in nostalgia towards an opressive regime run by an Croat/Slovene Dictator who fought against Serbia in WW1 and only made sure later that all interests are covered beside the serb ones, not only that but also further butchering it territory with autonmous zones after paying the most blood in ww2.

and chill down with calling people nazis, but habsburgsnazi was a funny one

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Unable-Stay-6478@reddit

most serbs and croats reject Yugoslavia

Not exactly true.

Reducing Josip Broz Tito to a “Croat/Slovene dictator” is peak oversimplification. If Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia was supposedly anti-Serb, why did millions of Serbs support it for 45 years, dominate its army, and move into its biggest cities and institutions?

Reducing Tito to a “Croat/Slovene dictator” is peak oversimplification. If Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia was supposedly anti-Serb, why did millions of Serbs support it for 45 years, dominate its army, and move into its biggest cities and institutions?

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Mr-Potato-Head99@reddit

says the Austrian.

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

What positive legacy has Yugoslavia ?

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dummysquill@reddit

what we need is food for our economies

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

Transparency, rule of law and battling of corruption/nepotism is most importantly imo (but this is the case for all nations tho)

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dummysquill@reddit

Subtlety, favouring other dominant nations, strengthening giving liabilities to heiers and not letting new comers own anything other than a car. How human

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Substantial_Oil8201@reddit

How many valleys tou got

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PavelKringa55@reddit

Balkan wars v3!!!

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oioioioioioiioo@reddit

Strategically it would be great but unfortunately the nationalism mentality in the Balkans is against, everyone considers their own plot an independent nation now

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raskoe47@reddit

this is mostly because of years of opression under all kinda of empires and kingdoms that made people be proud of being part of “their own” independent state that is so ethniclly and religiously homogenus

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lukatsito@reddit

This.

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FlamosSnow@reddit

I do not want to be put in a union with more of me.. I hate my country enough to have to deal with other people's same bulshit in a different language

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Grand-Glove-9985@reddit

We are already united in the European Union, and within the Schengen area you can travel freely without borders. For the rest who want to join, come on. We are waiting for you and your culture, but be aware that we are going to invade after, ... as tourists, with loads of cash in our pockets destined for your local business.

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Fare-Snake@reddit

Thats doomsday formula...

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levenspiel_s@reddit

And then what?

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Saul_Andrei_2003@reddit

Balkan battleground

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michixlol@reddit

And what happens with the rest of Greece?

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tempestwolf1@reddit

Latigrecoturkislavia

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Saul_Andrei_2003@reddit

Pov: You just summoned a demon😂

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Tonyukuk09@reddit

İ have an idea: unite them and attach the Türkiye afsgs

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Kalatapie@reddit

That sounds familiar. Oh, wait! https://youtu.be/aGReLj4QPZU?is=J44mVOlZu0kjv-HZ

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Putrid_Speed_5138@reddit

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procust9@reddit

Cromania 🇷🇴 ... capital in Pula 😎

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FrontEnd_Enthusiast@reddit

And since those are southern (yug) Slavic people, we could make up a name for that, sth like Slavoyugia?

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MendiWTF@reddit

Balkan countries: Government f*cks you, neighbours and family takes care of you.

EU countries: Governent f*cks you and then tries to take care of you. At least they get to have our money so they can give it to the richer!

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myladyart@reddit

Well, I understand from your question that you don’t know them. That’d answer to your question

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bratorimatori@reddit

Because we would dominate, and we don’t want that. Do we now?

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DucaJ@reddit

Its 2026, you do not need political reasons to commit genocide, catch up.

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ContributionLatter32@reddit

Look up balkanization you will laugh your ass off at this post xD

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MFDOM2K@reddit

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staritraper@reddit

Corruptia would fit better

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Merdaviglioso@reddit

Biggest civil war ever.

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SnoopCheesus@reddit

We would tear each other to shreds.

Why don't animal shelters keep cats and dogs in the same cage?

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smiley_but_not_happy@reddit

Id like to migrate to Balkania

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Einherjeren@reddit

Balcony?

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IK417@reddit

Because a more proper name would be: Great Civilwaria

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Western-Pear5874@reddit

We can’t come together because too many of us cling to centuries-old conflicts inherited from distant ancestors, repeating them without reflection instead of thinking for ourselves.

I believe this mostly happens because we're the least educated people in Europe.

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trisul-108@reddit

Why can't we just unite all of them into a big country called "Balkania"?

Because that requires removing the word "balkanisation" from the dictionaries. Publishers are pushing back on the initiative.

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kvnstantinos@reddit

They’ll all join the EU eventually anyway

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powerexcess@reddit

And like fk attika and the peloponese for some reason

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Timely-Marzipan2049@reddit

Yeah, good idea! In this great new state everyone must speak Romanian, capital is Bucharest and religion Orthodox.

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Giposaur@reddit

That's why you don't skip school classes...

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Pmike9@reddit

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WhodIzhod69@reddit

Ahem ahem

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Money-Rest-380@reddit

We'd be warring over alcoholic beverages :/

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shadowdance55@reddit

We are in the process of doing just that. We also included a few other less significant countries to the west, and the name is different (something something "union"), but we're getting there!

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somberxba@reddit

The only right answer!

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Icy_Relationship_401@reddit

We speeding the invention of hyper racism with this idea

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ixxorn@reddit

As a Hugarian I feel equally grateful and offended at the same time.

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Emotional_Fan239@reddit

Whis part of Turkiye colored but not Trieste?

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NZTamoDalekoCG@reddit

Unity is overated, look at history.

Disunited Greeks fought off the mighty persian empire.

United Germany lost more territory and ethnography united than as a decentralised "mess".

As a former Yugoslav I honestly say Yugoslavia is now stronger than ever. At least one goverment might be doing something right at any one time, keeping the others on its toes.

Also honorable mention goes to united China versus disunited Europe, which ended up thrashing one of the most dominant civilisations on this planet.

As somebody who is into history....this is also why I think EU is a extremly bad idea.

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Jayar9000@reddit

They tried under Tito to keep it together. It fell apart the moment he died. Crazy how much people that speak the same language want to kill each other so badly

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Tutrastra@reddit

Some of them are Russia's vassals. They are not trustworthy.

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FixLaudon@reddit

Well there is already a state where all those guys live together kinda happily. It's called Austria.

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Lebor@reddit

Alright guys, lets start right on with giving it some better name this time.

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BlokZNCR@reddit

Half of Greece is yellow, either part of Türkiye or Italy, nice

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LizardmanJoe@reddit

Turkey is just the European part now. The rest is NESW, whatever that is.

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AJSE2020@reddit

WSA*

Western south asia

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Young_Owl99@reddit

I get the Turkey part but why would you enjoy Greece being a part of Italy lol.

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Trody34@reddit

New fear unlocked 😳

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EverythingIsTakeeeen@reddit

Meh, these countries should unite but they are too retarded. You got Turkey on the east, Italy and Germany from the north. Also Yugoslavia gave good possibilities to negotiate and nice coastline.

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