Counter terrorism update now includes all flavors of libertarianism

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unapologeticjerk@reddit

Yeah, but are we going long A and who has the AWP?

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Last_Comedian_5043@reddit (OP)

I enjoyed everyone's inquiries and arguments! I wish I had more time to explain every philosophy within our philosophy. I must be off, so please, if you have any disagreements, I encourage everyone to broaden their studies. Libertarianism is a surprising diverse school of thought, and the history is surprisingly interesting.

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boogieboardbobby@reddit

I'm not sure this post makes much sense. Didn't see anything that represented Libertarianism(in any form) as a counter terrorisms extreme.

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Last_Comedian_5043@reddit (OP)

Anarchism includes many libertarian schools of thought. From left to right including anarcho capitalism.

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DerMef@reddit

That line clearly has "violent" as a qualifier. Do you believe that violent political groups are not a terrorism threat?

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Last_Comedian_5043@reddit (OP)

There's a part in the document that does not have violent anarchism as a qualifier. That's on purpose. Plus how many times have we seen the government use force on nonviolent "offenders".

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boogieboardbobby@reddit

So because they used the terms Left or Right wing, that is supposed to encompass anarcho-capitalism and other forms of Libertarianism?

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Last_Comedian_5043@reddit (OP)

They just vaguely stated anarchists in general.

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ToaKraka@reddit

The document mentions "violent left-wing extremists, including anarchists and anti-fascists", and "violent secular political groups whose ideology is anti-American, radically pro-transgender, and anarchist". I don't see how that counts as "all flavors of libertarianism".

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Last_Comedian_5043@reddit (OP)

Many forms of anarchist theory are libertarian. Historically it is by definition.

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ToaKraka@reddit

That's one flavor, or maybe several flavors. You said "all flavors".

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Last_Comedian_5043@reddit (OP)

Yeah all the flavors that support a society free from authority and coercion. So unless your flavor is the fabled "authoritarian libertarianism"

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SirMapleDuck@reddit

I’m assuming he’s referring to “anti-fascists” unless you consider your pro-fascist?

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xrebel21@reddit

False dichotomy much?

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ToaKraka@reddit

The term "anti-fascist" technically encompasses libertarians at first glance. But, in the context of real life, I expect a person who calls himself "antifa" to be authleft, not libleft.

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UrBoiSkinnyPenis69@reddit

This post is ridiculous

Lib-Larp

You can't coopt every good ideology so that yours can never be criticized. If that counter terrorism update applies to you, you aren't a Libertarian.

(No not all leftists are terrorists)

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Last_Comedian_5043@reddit (OP)

The issue is they made it very vague. Lumping all flavors of libertarianism together with other forms of extremism should worry you.

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2022_Perhaps@reddit

You’ve repeated the “Lumping all flavors of libertarianism together” statement. Can you provide a few quotes from this document that strongly supports this thesis?

Or, can you cite a few sections and explain how that statement fits your conclusion? And for what it’s worth, I’m not asking you to go all academic here. Just looking for casual internet banter.

I’m not doubting your statement and I’m also aware of previous positions that could target libertarians, but I’m now seeing how this document changes much of what we already know (but I also don’t have time to read it in detail).

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Last_Comedian_5043@reddit (OP)

The basis of my statement is anarchism was added to the new measures recently. Anarchism in itself labeled in such a vague way targets many libertarian schools of thought. For me personally, for example, agorism and counter economics.

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AlphaTangoFoxtrt@reddit

If that counter terrorism update applies to you, you aren't a Libertarian.

Homeboy, the FBI literally label the Anarcho_Capitalist flag and the Gadsen flag as signs of Domestic Terrorism.

https://vault.fbi.gov/domestic-terrorism-symbols-guide/Domestic%20Terrorism%20Symbols%20Guide%20Part%2001%20%28Final%29/view

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Last_Comedian_5043@reddit (OP)

Thanks for the link homie

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Cowrekted@reddit

Honestly the most concerning one is the "radically pro-transgender" imo since not only is it intentionally vague, but also meant to target characteristics that have nothing to do with terrorism.

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Last_Comedian_5043@reddit (OP)

I mean, many in the maga movement would consider just existing as radical.

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AGodDamnFreeMan@reddit

I'd be willing to argue to the contrary if you'd like but I am not trying to start fights, etc. just here for good conversation!

I think my opening statement would be regarding your (HILARIOUS in this context) profile pic suggesting you're pro-transgender combined with the tag of 'JOIN or DIE' under your name not exactly supporting your statement that the transgender movement has nothing to do with terrorism. Haha!

Yes, I looked at your profile and I'm assuming (-er, hoping?) it has the do with being active in the r/warthunder subreddit. Lol!

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AlphaTangoFoxtrt@reddit

Now includes

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Homeboy, the FBI literally label the Anarcho-Capitalist flag and the Gadsen flag as signs of potential Domestic Terrorism.

https://vault.fbi.gov/domestic-terrorism-symbols-guide/Domestic%20Terrorism%20Symbols%20Guide%20Part%2001%20%28Final%29/view

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EnlightenedDragon@reddit

"I hereby certify that I do not believe in or advocate the initiation of force as a means of achieving political or social goals".

Certainly not the violent type they're looking for, not that it matters to the administration in the least.

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