Is it better to get a 5070 TI OC over a 9070 xt, with a 340 CAD difference?

Posted by B_1605@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 21 comments

I’m building my first pc and I’m wondering if I should get a 5070 ti over a 9070 xt, but the 5070 ti is approximately 400 cad more after tax.

List of parts:
ryzen 7 9800x3d (bundle)
msi mag x870e tomahawk wifi (bundle)
t-force 32gb 6000mhz cl30 (bundle)
crucial t710 2tb ssd
corsair rm850e psu
corsair nautilus 360mm aio
corsair frame 4000d case

I game at 1440p and don’t care much for RT or anything fancy. I usually play games on medium settings to maximize fps. Other than gaming I code and that’s it.
I’m flexible with my budget if it’s truly worth it, as I don’t want to touch the build again for many years.

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TheKitler@reddit

Is there a specific reason you picked the X870e tomahawk bundle? You could save $130 by going with a cheaper bundle. You could also get the 7800x3d bundle for $240 less, which will perform nearly the same in 1440p.

The rest of your parts are also expensive. The Corsair parts due to brand tax and the SSD because it's PCIe 5.0. Do you really need a drive that fast?

I know your question is strictly about the GPU but you sound concerned about value. Thought I'd point those few things out in case you didn't know.

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B_1605@reddit (OP)

i was originally looking to get the 7800x3d bundle but as i mentioned i’m trying to future proof as much as possible so i don’t get buyers regret. since i’m able to afford the difference, i decided to go with the 9800x3d. then again, im not an expert when it comes to parts so the difference is negligible maybe im better off getting the 7800x3d? i’m not sure at this point.

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TheKitler@reddit

If/when you find yourself in a position where the 7800x3d doesn't do what you need it to do, the 9800x3d wouldn't have been able to do it either. In 1440p, they're 3% apart on average.

I'd reconsider the PSU, AIO, and SSD as well. You're not future proofing anything here by going with more expensive parts. Air cooling would even be enough.

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TheDreadfulSagittary@reddit

They're more like 10% apart in 1080p, which better represent the true performance difference. Being 3% apart at 1440p more likely represent a GPU bottleneck.

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TheKitler@reddit

They're more like 10% apart in 1080p, which better represent the true performance difference.

OP is in 1440p

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TheDreadfulSagittary@reddit

Yes? It's about CPU performance though. It is ~10% faster regardless of the resolution.

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TheKitler@reddit

Right, but that's not relevant in this case. OP will never see a 10% difference in 1440p so why mention 1080p?

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TheDreadfulSagittary@reddit

OP will never see a 10% difference in 1440p so why mention 1080p?

They will, for CPU constrained games. Looking at CPU data from GPU constrained games is kind of pointless in the discussion, which is why looking at 1080p results makes more sense. 1080p tells you what the CPU is actually capable of, instead of telling you what the GPU is capable of, which was not the question.

They want to go a bit higher for futureproofing, ie for any games in the future they might play that will require more CPU performance. Presenting 3% in that case is not accurate, that is not how much faster the 9800X3D actually is.

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TheKitler@reddit

So in those specific cases OP didn't mention at all, it's 10%. Got it.

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TheDreadfulSagittary@reddit

The case of being CPU constrained... which was OPs question.

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Expert_Conflict6374@reddit

Do you want a good experience for at least many years to come with DLSS 5, 6, 7...

Or do you want to save 400 CAD now and your card will be completely abandoned in 2027 when the next AMD card comes out. In the meantime the copycat Ray Regeneration is in 2 games you don't play, and PT not even supported in games like Pragmata. In the meantime AMD users are relying on 3rd party hackware like OptiScaler to get FSR4 into games and get banned.

It's a serious question you need to decide yourself. The price/raster performance argument has been used by AMD fans since Polaris days (2015), but there's a reason this brand of GPU still has only 10% market share despite what a 'steal' they sound like on the surface.

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TheDreadfulSagittary@reddit

It doesn't sound like you would need a 5070 Ti. The benefits are better RT and a bit better upscaling quality, otherwise the performance is very similar to a 9070 XT. If any of your coding benefits from CUDA is the only other reason I would think of, but that's more data/ML oriented.

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B_1605@reddit (OP)

okay that makes sense but what about future proofing? I read online that nvidia usually has better support for older cards, but i’m not really sure.

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TheDreadfulSagittary@reddit

Yes they do, sort of. Nvidia has consistently brought new DLSS versions to old card generations, so you can run the latest upscaling model on 20 series cards. They are however not as good at running those newer models as the new cards, so you don't get the full performance benefit. I'd expect a similar treatment in the future.

AMD on the other hand has struggled with their upscaling implementation, to the point where their latest (first actually good) model with FSR4 only runs on 9000 series cards, and anything older has to use the much worse FSR3 and 2. Theoretically they should be able to offer similar support going forward, but we don't know if they will.

They did also a while ago announce the premature end to support for Radeon 5000 and 6000 cards, which got a huge public backlash, at which point they turned around and said they would keep supporting them. If they had stopped support it would have been really bad in comparison to Nvidia (Radeon 5000 competed with RTX 20, support for which is still expected for several more years), and that they tried to stop is already kind of bad.

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B_1605@reddit (OP)

okay with all this in mind i’m heavily leaning towards the 9070 xt so thanks a lot. also side note, are there any issues with the parts i listed or is it a good build?

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B_1605@reddit (OP)

i live in ottawa so i’ve been looking at canada computers and amazon. where else could i be looking?