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unseenmover@reddit

Ha. cars require a drivers license and insurance..

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SexiestPanda@reddit

And yet cars aren’t being towed away like this despite being driven more reckless than e-bikes/emotos and being thousands of pounds heavier

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unseenmover@reddit

emotos dont conform to any requirements allowing them to ridden on public infrastructure like cars, motos or class'd ebikes. They should require a license and insurance.

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SadisticPawz@reddit

They do. They're functionally equivalent to motorcycles. Still doesnt make it any less unfair when the response is disproportionate to the real danger.

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unseenmover@reddit

"off road" motorcycles not intended for road use and cant be registered as such...

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snoogins355@reddit

In the Boston metro it's like Mario Kart

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Dickparker420@reddit

Motorcycles don't even need insurance in my State, just registration and M endorsement if greater than 50cc

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snoogins355@reddit

Yup gotta appease the government powers

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unseenmover@reddit

more like appeasing a city, county or states ability to protect its self from liability...

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And give big oil profits? When did we lose the plot about what's going on here? A giant truck in a neighborhood to haul away light weight vehicles cause we didn't allow them properly by focusing infrastructure on fast light weight vehicles... So big oil would be happy

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SingleTack@reddit

Absolutely this, dude was working, providing an 'essential service' even, on a very low impact vehicle. Meanwhile ridiculous mall crawlers and coal rollers live their lives without concern.

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Rude-Possibility4682@reddit

Delivering a takeaway is hardly an essential service by any long stretch of the imagination.

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snoogins355@reddit

Got little kids? As the parent of a toddler, I respectfully say shut the fuck up. I got a little belligerent drunk tornado at home that needs food and I'm too exhausted to cook sometimes. He already went full alligator roll banshee screaming while trying to grab his dirty diaper at lunch.

These guys are essential. They literally were deemed that during the pandemic.

Don't hate the player, hate the lack of sane transportation regulations, enforcement and education.

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Rude-Possibility4682@reddit

Yes, and I work too, but still manage to shop and cook too, and if I fancy a takeout I'll fetch it myself. Either by walking or picking it up on the way home from work. I really don't get that drunk, that I'm incapable of making or getting some food.

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Arcanum3000@reddit

The guy in the original post could've registered it, but didn't.

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SingleTack@reddit

Well I used quotes because I agree and think it is shameful. But they are considered essential workers by the US federal government and the state of CA. If you were delivering during covid you qualified for the first round of vaccines.

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CG_Ops@reddit

The crawlers/rollers are (were, from factory at least) legal for road use from day 1. These bikes are sold as off-road only. NIU XQi3 Street Edition is CA legal and only ~$1k more than the Throne 60v Shadow that OP was riding.

Sometimes laws suck, but, we have to deal with them or work to change them. OP could've ridden an actual eBike (class 3) or gotten a properly registered new/used eMoto, knew the risks, took them, and lost.

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SingleTack@reddit

I don't disagree and am very pro regulation at just about every level.

A discusting fact is that the poorer you are the more likely you are to face enforcement of regulation. A person walking, can get Cavanagh stopped, loitered, trespassed, etc. Bikes get impounded easily like this. Illegally modified trucks roll around and sometimes catch problems when caught. I could find more steps but it ends with tech companies in Georgia sucking out all the fresh water and facing no repercussions.

I have no real fear of a young adult working on a stupid over torqued dirt bike and neither should you. Every day I feel the pressure of an unfair car centric society that dipropionately punishes the most venerable.

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CG_Ops@reddit

Your concerns are valid but aren't really about eBikes/eMoto. It does suck that policing is unfairly focused on the have-nots.

Unfortunately, our country's hard-on for capitalism and disdain for "socialism" (more accurately, socialistic policies) means that fewer and fewer options are viable as one looks further and further down the social/financial hierarchy. Worse, still, the less one has, the more prone to (most) crimes they are for a variety of sociological reasons.

In the country and reality we live in, we must operate within the (increasingly unfair) rules that apply to us or risk the consequences. Had OP been on a class 1-3 eBike or a registered eMoto, they'd still be doing their thing.

In my case, I de-restricted my class-1 to class-3 and ride accordingly - I stay away from class-1 areas or ride within class-1 speeds. It sucks, but I play the game so I can keep my bike/money from overzealous enforcement.

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urlond@reddit

They do when banks decide to repossess vehicles for late payments.

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Electrical_Tof@reddit

But never when people are shoving multiple tons around in anger within the design of big oil

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mityman50@reddit

Are you the same type of people angry when emotos post here, but now you’re cross-posting them here??? They were in an emoto sub!

Get a fuckin grip. Move on with your life

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Fun-Appointment-4457@reddit

Idk dawg clowning on someone else’s downfall never ends well karma wise :/ it’s not like local governments particularly care about the differences between e-bikes u could very well be next if the laws change 🤔😓

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komi54@reddit (OP)

I follow the laws in my area. People like this are the reason those laws might change.

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Electrical_Tof@reddit

... You don't think people like oil execs create the conditions where infrastructure meant to be limiting for those not choosing cars goes wrong when the limits get pushed is... The fault of the people choosing better transportation? Not the fault of the government for not providing adequate safe infrastructure for such often reasonable choices (knobby tires on pavement is a silly byproduct of people not having the option for their choice which would probably be less ostentatious if not for? The limitations!)

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SadisticPawz@reddit

I just wish we'd give PEVs a proper chance to thrive into being the future of mobility. Every class having its place and being appropriately accessible.

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Composed_Cicada2428@reddit

Shocking that sub is filled with right winger dbags

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_haha_oh_wow_@reddit

I'd opt for something I could register or just get a proper e-bike/cargo bike.

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Isorg@reddit

I mean how hard is it to make this street legal and just follow the damn rules??

I know dirtbikes can be made street legal, why not this thing?

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BusinessCasualBee@reddit

The penalties he incurred by not doing so make it cheaper to just buy a new bike

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Arcanum3000@reddit

From what I've read in the original post, he could've registered it pretty cheaply before it got impounded, but he didn't.

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BusinessCasualBee@reddit

Yep he’s a moron. Not sure why I’m getting downvoted. He said as much in the original thread, he’s just going to buy a nicer bike

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Arcanum3000@reddit

Sorry, some of the people in the other thread seemed to be presenting the "it's so expensive for him to register now" argument as if it's a justification for him not registering. I thought you were doing the same. My bad.

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snoogins355@reddit

Depends how much power car dealerships have on making everything car dependent

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Arcanum3000@reddit

It seems to depend on the locale. Some places it's harder than others. And sometimes it's just impossible, either because the registration system doesn't support it, or the bike is incapable of having required equipment like turn signals attached, or both.

But also a lot of the clowns riding these electric dirt bikes on the streets are doing so specifically to avoid licensing and registration.

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