Polish people watching the spiderweb of fiber optic cables descend upon their country from Germany, knowing that it heralds the death of thousands of Russians
Ukrainians barely use optics in comparison to Russians and people had been using small drones in close distance before optic cable drones had been widespread.
There are just different drones, there is a world of difference between a Mavick, a Geran’, an Orlan… and different types are operated differently. Most drones used are pretty much commercial ones and those require one to be quite close. Most of the top line big ones don’t really require a pilot participation at all.
There are cases when drone operators are actually closer to the enemy positions than the infantry bc drones have a certain range and if you want to strike deeper then well you need to get closer
If he's delusional, he probably looked up how American HALE drones operate with Satellite communications, and assumed it works the same in Ukraine. Also not realizing the Russians also use a ton of drones.
People joke about getting their news via memes, but unironically, a lot of people do. Additionally, the mainstream media is essentially a meme at this point.
It's actually fucking terrifying, and honestly explains a lot about the current state of the world.
Not most, fiber optic drones are rare for Ukrainians. Drones used on the frontline are however repurposed commercial drones(or close to that) and do not have a lot of range. The big drones with a lot of range, which are used for strikes inside Russia or their “new regions” do not require a pilot at all.
Depends on the drones. The fiber drones are operated near the frontlines, the long range drones are operated far away, sometimes actually in Berlin. Germany has been assisting Ukrainian long range drone operators by giving then a secure base of operation, which is what this post is referencing.
Irs pretty clear by now that russian losses really outscale ukrainian ones. But yes of course they try to keep it close. But the ukrainians provides video for basically every single casualty at around 35k a month. Russia hasn't proven even close to that. In some areas its even reported that russians die 5 or 10 to 1 ukrainian.
Two big factors at play there: 1. defenders advantage — Ukraine being on defense has naturally lower deaths and higher medeva and thus survival rates for wounded
2. Russians don’t give a singular fuck about their lives. If you’re a Russian soldier, the man next to you doesn’t care whether you live or die. Your squad lead sees you as nothing more than another hostage whose family can be blackmailed for your sign up bonus. Your commander sees you as nothing more than a game piece to be thrown at the front to fulfil the weekly advancement quota. Your government only thinks about how to avoid paying your family the promised compensation for your death. Putin himself wouldn’t even piss on you if you were on fire, to them you’re not even human.
And your own family is pissed because they lost their income source, got blackmailed out of your sign up bonus and got fucked over on your death compensation.
Of course these fuckheads blow their brains out themselves the second they hear a drone buzz
Yeah good points. And the fact ukrainian drone technology is getting way ahead of the russians. So yeah the statement that "thousands die om both sides" is technically true but one side is clearly losing more.
perhaps. but then russia has more manpower to throw in the grinder, and russia, china and nothern korea produce ammunition etc way faster than all nato states combined, while turkey likely will switch sides within the next months. from that perspective russia gets rid of its fighting prisoners and old gear, while nato looses supplies faster than they can reproduce. this isnt about ukraine, from numbers game alone, an invasion army would have to outnumber defenders at least by the factor 4, they deplete nato ressources inside ukraine as a preparation for a ww3 size invasion.
Yeah you clearly dont follow this war at all and got no stakes so Im not even gonna bother. If you know this little about the world stay on r/greentexts and just laugh at funny memes okay?
Day 1540 of the 3 day special military operation: Ukraine is still sovereign. Russia has to force the draft because they are running out of conscript meat shields. They have outdated WWII gear that is basically falling apart. They even need help from North Korea, who's soldiers ended up just gooning when they got access to the world wide web. Russia is receiving targeted attacks deep inside their borders while they haven't been able to gain ground in months. Great success!
as said, theyre not there to win. and if 190 billion military budget for 2025 alone means ww2 falling apart gear, somethings missing from the picture. also from a chess nation i would expect a plan thats longer than "we keep fighting here and hope for the best". they invented scorched earth 80 years ago and won a war with that, and fighting a depletion war is the same mindset.
this isnt about cheering for one team and bonding over that and shitting over fans of the opposite team. i wouldnt be fond of russians marching more westwards, but give it a very few years and itll happen. america will retract from eurpoe before, as their imperial game has united a bunch of second world countries against them and thats already starting to unfold in iran and will spread. the world as you know it is about to end, and nobody wins in this, but perhaps humanity as a whole in the long run.
Start 72 hour war with one of the poorest European nations
4 years later
Kids online making hyperpop fancams of your soldiers actively being reduced to red mist by Ukrainian drones
Modern Warfare 2 lied to me, Russia can barely hold their own in the Ukrainian countryside lmao Washington DC would be like Mike Tyson versus an anemic infant
One can fly drones from PC, it is quite hard, risky and expensive to organize for small drones, with their range adds lag and the need for retranslators and stuff.
The problem is to actually place them close enough so that a small and cheap drone’s battery will allow it to deliver the payload to anything significant. And while you are there doing it for a drone after drone, you might as well pilot it being more directly installed into the other parts of frontline duties and logistics.
Yeah, but the problem with that is that the IT pays about the same without the need to put your life at risk plus an option to work from abroad in some cases
It’s not about which is harder and which is easier, people still prefer to try the IT because you don’t put your life into a literal danger while still getting a good pay and benefits.
And yeah, it’s kinda hard to get into the army if you are a woman
Some people prefer going into it. Some people prefer signing the contract. I know both. I know a medic and a mechanic who signed the contract. One of the became a paramedic and the other - a mechanic. We talking about women here? I thought we talking about ‘most people from small mid towns buying 2 bedroom apartment after one year of combat’, which they can. They are also not in combat for a year during their service. Are you making a point or just trying to argue?
Conscripts generally don’t see front line action, they’re the ones doing border and checkpoint work as they don’t get the same combat training normal soldiers do. Not to say it never happens but the idea that Russia is running solely off forced conscripts is a cope imo. Most Russian soldiers are volunteers, maybe because of nationalism or just needing a way to provide for family at home, but either way they’re not conscripts being forced into front line positions.
I’m saying this because I have two friends who happened to become “war veterans” at the age of 19. They were sent to the second line as an “emergency reinforcement” so once the first line got hit they had to hold with what’s left of the first line. Neither signed a contract and were serving the end of the year of the mandatory conscript.
As for the forcing into signing a contract I personally know three people who have legal troubles (either the boss stole the money and everyone is a suspect in the case until proven otherwise or they worked in a military-related project and one of the developers fled the country) and they can’t get the legal processes to move because the cases just so happens to be “stuck”, but of course they are reminded that that can be solved by signing a contract
1) no such thing as a war veteran in Russia. We have ‘combat veterans’. And ‘combat veteran’ was also given to anybody who served in the border region when Kursk got invaded. Even to those who didn’t do jack
2) what second line? When was it? Was it during mobilisation? Because it ended 3 years ago.
3) no one is getting forced to sign a contract. Pressured into it? Sure. Forced into it? No. Even your examples set ‘pressure’ not ‘sign the contract or we’ll do harm to you’.
Yeah I don’t mean to say that people aren’t coerced or even “forced” through financial or social means, just that the idea of long term prisoners being conscripted for front line deployment is a myth. Sorry to hear about your friends, it sucks to be born in the wrong place at the wrong time and I don’t blame them for anything happening.
lefeuet_UA@reddit
They can't be far away because they use optic cables
ddg31415@reddit
Which can be as long as 40km.
SalvationSycamore@reddit
Polish people watching the spiderweb of fiber optic cables descend upon their country from Germany, knowing that it heralds the death of thousands of Russians
HMS--Thunderchild@reddit
the cables arent that long
Le_Montagne@reddit
Mossad, twist his nuts
PassivelyInvisible@reddit
Some of the cables are getting to be 10+ km (6+ miles). They have a spool under the drone that plays out as they fly towards their target.
sillycritersenjoyer@reddit
r/woooosh
SalvationSycamore@reddit
I already said they are, and I'm not allowed to lie on Reddit
PotatoesAndChill@reddit
based honest redditor
SilliusS0ddus@reddit
Imagine the face they'd make if they see a big rocket fly over them towards Berlin
PotemkinSuplex@reddit
Ukrainians barely use optics in comparison to Russians and people had been using small drones in close distance before optic cable drones had been widespread.
There are just different drones, there is a world of difference between a Mavick, a Geran’, an Orlan… and different types are operated differently. Most drones used are pretty much commercial ones and those require one to be quite close. Most of the top line big ones don’t really require a pilot participation at all.
jednorog@reddit
I wake up with my polish state mandated slut
🎩🐱♻️
RawardHoikes91@reddit
Polish state-mandated femboj, you mean.
CulturedHollow@reddit
a femboj can be a slut too
robber_goosy@reddit
Only irl these drone operators are right behind the frontline and prime targets for russian drones, airstrikes and infiltrators.
baturik128@reddit
There are cases when drone operators are actually closer to the enemy positions than the infantry bc drones have a certain range and if you want to strike deeper then well you need to get closer
bigmt99@reddit
They’ve also been running drones directly hooked up to fiber optic cables to circumvent jammers
DietNo342@reddit
Which under certain optics, lights up the fibre and shows you directly where the operator is
paraknowya@reddit
Nah, the fiber drones are connected to a relay.
DietNo342@reddit
Na the physical fibre will show up under certain optics or filters or whatever
Raulr100@reddit
Yes and he's saying that the drone is connected to a relay on the ground which is then connected to the operator.
BearsAreBack18@reddit
Maybe this dude thinks there is a literal cable attached to the drone flying miles and miles
Nessy3fidy@reddit
Uh there are, the cables are usually 3-12 miles for normal drones.
BearsAreBack18@reddit
Huh, learn something new every day I suppose
Nessy3fidy@reddit
Yup you can even see pic of entire areas covered by glistening strands like some nightmarish spider hell
spookymemeformat@reddit
How does the drones not be tangled
DanRomio@reddit
This. The TS is a delusional kid, ir it's a fine-grained bait, in which case I applaud.
MrCockingFinally@reddit
If he's delusional, he probably looked up how American HALE drones operate with Satellite communications, and assumed it works the same in Ukraine. Also not realizing the Russians also use a ton of drones.
People joke about getting their news via memes, but unironically, a lot of people do. Additionally, the mainstream media is essentially a meme at this point.
It's actually fucking terrifying, and honestly explains a lot about the current state of the world.
Patience-Frequent@reddit
99% bait id say
Quitelowquitetall@reddit
There's actually a great drone video on Combat footage(?) where a waiting fibre optic drone is disabled by blasting a laser/LED at the optic fibre
Really cool stuff, not sure how they set up the other drone with the laser
jeggy111@reddit
I like the ones where they cut the fibre with scissors
UncleKeyPax@reddit
BRAZZERS. sorry
TurretLimitHenry@reddit
Lmao. Ukrainians have like 50km fiber optic drones.
amidoes@reddit
Yeah anon hasn't realized most drones are controlled by optic fiber due to interference
PotemkinSuplex@reddit
Not most, fiber optic drones are rare for Ukrainians. Drones used on the frontline are however repurposed commercial drones(or close to that) and do not have a lot of range. The big drones with a lot of range, which are used for strikes inside Russia or their “new regions” do not require a pilot at all.
Cuddlyaxe@reddit
It depends on the type of drone, but both the type you describe and the one in OOP exist. They usually just have very different targets
Haggis442312@reddit
They’re also not getting much sleep because they’re worried about their family back home in Kyiv who is getting airstriked every night.
airfryerfuntime@reddit
Depends on the drones. The fiber drones are operated near the frontlines, the long range drones are operated far away, sometimes actually in Berlin. Germany has been assisting Ukrainian long range drone operators by giving then a secure base of operation, which is what this post is referencing.
Spyglass3@reddit
Don't forget that if they're captured they're not making it to a POW camp
MiniGui98@reddit
The crisp state mandated artillery shells are their real breakfast
thr33beggars@reddit
Why don’t the Russians simply cover themselves in mud to avoid thermal drones? Didn’t they watch Predator? Are they stupid?
b2hcy0@reddit
on both sides thousands die daily. both sides exaggerate their effectiveness and try to cover up their losses.
MidsommarKrans@reddit
Irs pretty clear by now that russian losses really outscale ukrainian ones. But yes of course they try to keep it close. But the ukrainians provides video for basically every single casualty at around 35k a month. Russia hasn't proven even close to that. In some areas its even reported that russians die 5 or 10 to 1 ukrainian.
BoarHide@reddit
Two big factors at play there: 1. defenders advantage — Ukraine being on defense has naturally lower deaths and higher medeva and thus survival rates for wounded 2. Russians don’t give a singular fuck about their lives. If you’re a Russian soldier, the man next to you doesn’t care whether you live or die. Your squad lead sees you as nothing more than another hostage whose family can be blackmailed for your sign up bonus. Your commander sees you as nothing more than a game piece to be thrown at the front to fulfil the weekly advancement quota. Your government only thinks about how to avoid paying your family the promised compensation for your death. Putin himself wouldn’t even piss on you if you were on fire, to them you’re not even human.
And your own family is pissed because they lost their income source, got blackmailed out of your sign up bonus and got fucked over on your death compensation.
Of course these fuckheads blow their brains out themselves the second they hear a drone buzz
MidsommarKrans@reddit
Yeah good points. And the fact ukrainian drone technology is getting way ahead of the russians. So yeah the statement that "thousands die om both sides" is technically true but one side is clearly losing more.
b2hcy0@reddit
perhaps. but then russia has more manpower to throw in the grinder, and russia, china and nothern korea produce ammunition etc way faster than all nato states combined, while turkey likely will switch sides within the next months. from that perspective russia gets rid of its fighting prisoners and old gear, while nato looses supplies faster than they can reproduce. this isnt about ukraine, from numbers game alone, an invasion army would have to outnumber defenders at least by the factor 4, they deplete nato ressources inside ukraine as a preparation for a ww3 size invasion.
MidsommarKrans@reddit
Yeah you clearly dont follow this war at all and got no stakes so Im not even gonna bother. If you know this little about the world stay on r/greentexts and just laugh at funny memes okay?
Supremely_Zesty@reddit
Day 1540 of the 3 day special military operation: Ukraine is still sovereign. Russia has to force the draft because they are running out of conscript meat shields. They have outdated WWII gear that is basically falling apart. They even need help from North Korea, who's soldiers ended up just gooning when they got access to the world wide web. Russia is receiving targeted attacks deep inside their borders while they haven't been able to gain ground in months. Great success!
b2hcy0@reddit
as said, theyre not there to win. and if 190 billion military budget for 2025 alone means ww2 falling apart gear, somethings missing from the picture. also from a chess nation i would expect a plan thats longer than "we keep fighting here and hope for the best". they invented scorched earth 80 years ago and won a war with that, and fighting a depletion war is the same mindset.
this isnt about cheering for one team and bonding over that and shitting over fans of the opposite team. i wouldnt be fond of russians marching more westwards, but give it a very few years and itll happen. america will retract from eurpoe before, as their imperial game has united a bunch of second world countries against them and thats already starting to unfold in iran and will spread. the world as you know it is about to end, and nobody wins in this, but perhaps humanity as a whole in the long run.
CroatInAKilt@reddit
"A WW3 size invasion"
I am begging you to take your medicine, Ivan
thr33beggars@reddit
Cover up their losses…with mud?
RawardHoikes91@reddit
It only works for like 30 seconds, then you start warming up the mud with your body heat.
Zapkin@reddit
You say this like Russians aren’t constantly covered in a thin layer of mud 24/7 already.
MonkeyPanls@reddit
... And the Ukrainians, using only the best Estonian hackers, have programmed their drones to compensate for Russian mud
Thomas_Pereira@reddit
/remove-mud
Glasgesicht@reddit
Why don't they just go home and avoid the chance of being blown up entirely?
CroatInAKilt@reddit
Because then they would have to live in Russia
PotemkinSuplex@reddit
Mud doesn’t help much against thermals, an umbrella does though. Thermals on drones aren’t as much of a thing as people sell it though.
the_marxman@reddit
Because the Ukrainians have seen Predator and have trained with the mud defense in mind.
VirtualPantsu@reddit
They probably watched a soviet knock off where they drink vodka instead
xemanhunter@reddit
Modern Warfare 2 lied to me, Russia can barely hold their own in the Ukrainian countryside lmao Washington DC would be like Mike Tyson versus an anemic infant
Nessy3fidy@reddit
I mean Ukraines entire military was built against countering Russia, after they survived the blitz it was always going to degrade into a slugfest.
2BEN-2C93@reddit
More blood for the blood god. More meat for the meat cube.
Nessy3fidy@reddit
Do we have enough orphans for the meat dragon?
united_we_ride@reddit
I remember that meat cube.
Was really meaty, definitely cube shaped.
StormOfFatRichards@reddit
Yea this is exactly why Ukraine won the war 4 years ago
Slide-Maleficent@reddit
Too bad, so sad, git gud filthy russian casual
Doomie_bloomers@reddit
Not one person in here to point out that Berlin is in Germany and not the neighbouring country of Poland?
CORVlN@reddit
When you're Russian ethnic minority cannon fodder and the trees start speaking VVVVVVRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZ
confused_wisdom@reddit
If they figure out how to fly drones from a pc, there will be a million volunteers for both Ukraine and Lebanon online
PotemkinSuplex@reddit
One can fly drones from PC, it is quite hard, risky and expensive to organize for small drones, with their range adds lag and the need for retranslators and stuff.
The problem is to actually place them close enough so that a small and cheap drone’s battery will allow it to deliver the payload to anything significant. And while you are there doing it for a drone after drone, you might as well pilot it being more directly installed into the other parts of frontline duties and logistics.
PinguThePenguin_007@reddit
bitch it’s not the operators that are the problem it’s the drones
strawberry_semenade@reddit
Lebanese terrorists can already be fought via remote activated pager
logunleonov@reddit
Another day, another propaganda post
Dr_Axton@reddit
WYM sign a contract?
The Russian sign has been forcing people to sign the contracts and sent the conscripts for quite a while
PinguThePenguin_007@reddit
literally the exact opposite is happening but ok 🙂↕️ повірю
u1ro@reddit
My man People from small/mid towns can buy 2 bedroom apartment after one year of combat It's the main force in this situation
Dr_Axton@reddit
Yeah, but the problem with that is that the IT pays about the same without the need to put your life at risk plus an option to work from abroad in some cases
vverbov_22@reddit
Maybe if you're a senior dev in some good ass place. Russia pays balls amounts of money to volunteers
Just_George572@reddit
Gang. Not everyone can work in IT lmao. It’s like saying ‘but working in an oil industry pays the same’.
Dr_Axton@reddit
Neither is the army and I’d say there’s still more people in IT than people with contracts
Just_George572@reddit
You think getting into the army is as hard as getting into it, lmao?
Dr_Axton@reddit
It’s not about which is harder and which is easier, people still prefer to try the IT because you don’t put your life into a literal danger while still getting a good pay and benefits.
And yeah, it’s kinda hard to get into the army if you are a woman
Just_George572@reddit
Some people prefer going into it. Some people prefer signing the contract. I know both. I know a medic and a mechanic who signed the contract. One of the became a paramedic and the other - a mechanic. We talking about women here? I thought we talking about ‘most people from small mid towns buying 2 bedroom apartment after one year of combat’, which they can. They are also not in combat for a year during their service. Are you making a point or just trying to argue?
BobertRosserton@reddit
Conscripts generally don’t see front line action, they’re the ones doing border and checkpoint work as they don’t get the same combat training normal soldiers do. Not to say it never happens but the idea that Russia is running solely off forced conscripts is a cope imo. Most Russian soldiers are volunteers, maybe because of nationalism or just needing a way to provide for family at home, but either way they’re not conscripts being forced into front line positions.
Dr_Axton@reddit
I’m saying this because I have two friends who happened to become “war veterans” at the age of 19. They were sent to the second line as an “emergency reinforcement” so once the first line got hit they had to hold with what’s left of the first line. Neither signed a contract and were serving the end of the year of the mandatory conscript.
As for the forcing into signing a contract I personally know three people who have legal troubles (either the boss stole the money and everyone is a suspect in the case until proven otherwise or they worked in a military-related project and one of the developers fled the country) and they can’t get the legal processes to move because the cases just so happens to be “stuck”, but of course they are reminded that that can be solved by signing a contract
Just_George572@reddit
1) no such thing as a war veteran in Russia. We have ‘combat veterans’. And ‘combat veteran’ was also given to anybody who served in the border region when Kursk got invaded. Even to those who didn’t do jack
2) what second line? When was it? Was it during mobilisation? Because it ended 3 years ago.
3) no one is getting forced to sign a contract. Pressured into it? Sure. Forced into it? No. Even your examples set ‘pressure’ not ‘sign the contract or we’ll do harm to you’.
BobertRosserton@reddit
Yeah I don’t mean to say that people aren’t coerced or even “forced” through financial or social means, just that the idea of long term prisoners being conscripted for front line deployment is a myth. Sorry to hear about your friends, it sucks to be born in the wrong place at the wrong time and I don’t blame them for anything happening.
PotemkinSuplex@reddit
Ne shturm
KabouterPrikPrak@reddit
Foreigners doing dronework are on the front. This is war propagando. Although i must admit. Id rather have them dradting for the west...
vverbov_22@reddit
Fake: anon has a job
Gay: anon has sex with chechen men
jbourne71@reddit
Real and gay.
pacard@reddit
At least Russians get socks now https://www.cbsnews.com/news/over-300-years-later-russian-soldiers-get-socks/
Nottsbomber@reddit
Processing img r3xkw1jq9x0h1...
DUBToster@reddit
Depends, fpv quad operator are on the battlefield, fixed wings operator and boat operator are not on the battlefield
Just_George572@reddit
Still are on the battlefield, just further away from the line of contact
Just_George572@reddit
Peak Ukranian propaganda. I wonder if someone fell for it.
krawf@reddit
Man are psyops really trying to get us to root for Russia in this? Also where cat
brassman00@reddit
Truth is they're both living like the Russian half.
u1ro@reddit
Oh no, wet dreams