This is very controversial but I think Minecraft is in no doubt a victim of corporate greed someone is going to call me "Nostalgia blind" or something but the truth is Microsoft doesn't give 2 flying craps about the game. I don't know why people keep pretending like the game doesn't suffer from this with the microtransactions, and the chat age verification in the UK and using AI for their promo art for their theme park. Not to mention the recent updates have barely anything to do in them they are very minimal and more kid friendly looking. If people keep denying this and just dismiss it as "Nostalgia" simply for critiquing the modern game I wonder how upset they would be if they suddenly put microtransactions in java edition.
I would have to say minecraft also has the same issue the game is in no doubt of my mind a victim of corporate greed people need to realize Microsoft doesn't give 2 craps about Minecraft they just want to squeeze as much money out of the game as they can. I'm sure someone is going to say that I'm Nostalgia blind or something, but why do we keep pretending like microsoft didn't screw over the game with low effort updates and micro transactions that isn't "nostalgia blind" that's just acknowledging the flaws with modern Minecraft, but most people just brush it off.
Halo 4, despite its flaws, is a masterclass in playing with your emotions. Where even when you do the right thing, the whole time, it still isn’t enough to save those he wanted to…
I was at +8 before the hater-brigade showed up.
Something’s, including people, can be deeply flawed. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t beauty to be found as well.
Maybe it's nostalgia, as Halo 5 was a game I played a lot in my childhood (I played halo 4 a lot, but I have some memory issues so I struggle to remember it) but I loved the gameplay of Halo 5, having variants for every weapon and vehicle without having some weird customization system was a really cool thing to have
Halo 5 would have been an amazing game, even with a mid campaign. If the multiplayer wasn't a microtransaction hell. You paid to get better vehicles in the firefight/pvp mode. The customization was the best halo had but required you bought loot boxes to get most of the armor without grinding 10 hours a day. If it had reach's currency system n didnt make its biggest gamemode pay to win it would've stood out more. Unfortunately it was on that loot box hype train that plagued most games at the time
and also even when u got cool weapons or vehicles to use you had to either think we are stomping right now why do i need to spawn something rare or we are lossing if i spawn something I'll get targeted and die. fire fight kinda fixed that but since ghost were op against enemy ai and everything else got insta melted you never spawned more than a req 4. the best you could hope for was getting something good off the random rolls.
Growing up on halo 2 and halo 3 multiplayer, every multiplayer afterwards felt like some awkward blend of halo and other FPS games that just never hit the same that halo 3 did. Halo 3 is the pinnacle of FPS multiplayer and I don’t think I’ll ever feel the same about another game again.
Reach multiplayer was good as well imo, but that was definitely where you can see the gameplay getting faster, and it didn't have the impact that Halo 3 had.
It had enough of that Halo 3 formula to hook me though.
Warzone and Swat were some peak Halo in Halo 5. But the advanced movement craze of the time ruined all other game modes with its movement tech.
Halo 5 campaign, we don’t talk about that 😅
Then do enlighten me. Because we all dunk on 343i, now Halo Studios, within the Halo Community. Because they do have a noticeable drop in quality compared to the Bungie era.
Lmao welcome to the world of Halo outside the Halo sub. Halo 4 sucks, and the only place you'll hear people praise it is the Halo sub because it's an echo chamber.
Do you see me complaining about the current state of halo? I know it’s in an abysmal nowadays. Doesn’t mean I will let others dictate what I can and can’t enjoy.
Halo 4 is nothing but flaws. Story, gameplay, visuals, everything's bad. Zero redeeming qualities. There is so much wrong, but I think the worst part for me was when the writers decided that humans actually aren't the forerunners, thus making the irony and tragedy of the human-covenant war null and meaningless. And playing with your emotions? Changing cortana's entire character just for some eye-rolling melodrama is a masterclass in playing with your emotions?
Typo, meant to type books. But I've read/listened to all of them up to fractures. After that I lost interest because well 343 halo sucks to be honest and 40k rabbit hole sucked me in. I still keep up with some of the lore out of nostalgia through a few youtubers, but when the books from your videogame franchise are more fun than the games I'm out.
It’s a master class in playing with my emotions because I still expected the games to be good after reach and they weren’t. They couldn’t even successfully start a new trilogy we got 3 games that feel like game 1 of a new trilogy and now they are doing nostalgia remakes for easy wins.
As a book nerd. I have a bone to pick about Reach. Reach as a standalone game, 10/10. Masterpiece.
But I completely fucked the established lore on Bungie way out. I think it’s far more terrifying that Reach fell in 24 hours, instead of some arbitrary ground war to find relics that dragged on for months. Humanity didn’t win 99.9% of its battles with the covenant, it merely survived. Reach was no different
You misread his comment. Because the image has diamonds before shit, he had to put the line where the diamonds end and the poop starts. So hes saying that halo was good under bungie and not after
dude ty idk why some said it's bait. i thought i was going crazy and misunderstood the meme. like I'm not being ironic halo under bungie aka up to reach gold. then 343 takes a shit over the franchise
I’ll just enlighten you then lazy bones. I have a Halo Tattoo. Halo is and its lore are peak fam. Shame you can’t see it. Might I recommend an optometrist?
Hey man I clicked your profile to check it out and read that your next tattoo was going to be one of your late lover, cool! But isn’t the person you listed a fictional character from anime? What’s that all about
I got the halo tattoo as a test, to make sure I dont fuck up the one I get after. I went to a local tattoo convention to shop around for the right artist. Then I’ve been broke for a while as I dealt with my grief in different ways. And now I’m just broke from the system keeping me down atm. I ain’t letting to keep me down, and I still plan on getting that tattoo for her. I appreciate you reading that long ass letter though.
Oh no im talking about the comment on your tattoo post, something about akagi from azur lane? thats a fictional character from anime no? Is the love letter to “her” as well? I’m confused!
I got the halo tattoo well over a year ago. So I didn’t know I talked about that in the comments. I thought you were referring to the post I made under it. To help alleviate your confusion, I lost the closest person I’ve ever known 2 years ago. The kind of unique individual you open your entire soul to. It wrecked me. Akagi is the nickname I gave her, based on the character from the mobile game Azur lane we both played at the time. Their personalities were extremely similar, so it was fitting.
At least I don’t have to wait 10 minutes for someone to walk down a hallway with a jump cut every two seconds and a flashback as to why they are in the hallway for the other half the episode.
Infinite is has my favourite campaign, the development of Master Chief was amazing, and the gameplay made me feel the closest to lore accurate Master Chief flying around with the grappling hook, pulling items towards me and throwing explosive barrels
Such a shame I make up the few that sees it this way
I’ve still never finished the game. I’ve started it over a couple times, played at different difficulties and tried different styles of play, but every time I get to the same spot and then stop. It just goes on and on and on.
It’s a great game, but you can tell it was Creative Assembly’s first time making a game like that. Hell of a first attempt, though. I remember thinking there was no way the strategy game churner studio was gonna make a good Alien game lol
The dynamics change a lot with the flamethrower, androids are annoying and at that point you aren’t really thrilled with the station itself. The game really falls hard during the final hours.
I had a fucking blast with southpark fractured but-whole, but there too i think it just went on for too long. They couldve cut out the entire laboratory section and the game would be fine if you ask me.
Yeah the space stage sounds amazing on paper but in practice it's just sooo repetetive and the amount of content with little to no innovation gets tedious very quickly
You went from RTS controlling an entire country back to running around as a single unit. It's genuenly the most jarring downgrade in a games pacing in history
Piss off the Grox, and suddenly it turns into whack-a-mole, and you can't even do the space exploration anymore because one of your planets gets attacked every 5 minutes
Play The UrQuan Masters (Star Control 2). I'm pretty sure Spore tried to rip it off and failed miserably. But you can still play UQM and experience the space stage at its best.
I mean you just put stuff in the middle and stock every planet with the same plants and animals you picked up animals and plants last,it wasnt that hard, at least in my memory
I usually never left creature stage as that was the most interesting to me personally. Oh, and I spent an immeasurable amount of tice just making creatures, buildings and spaceships, i even used and tried a shit ton of mods specifically for creation.
Now that I think about it, I pretty much used SPORE as blender for kids, lmao.
I think if the game ended at tribal I would not like it nearly as much as I do lol, it's an ok stage but too frustrating, civ stage made the RTS experience a lot cooler and has a better ending
i always hear this but i actually enjoy the space stage a lot. something about going around blowing up planets, finding purple or pink spice planets to terraform and colonise, and making bank off of it to my allies is kinda fun and relaxing
I poured an unhealthy amount of hours into Spore when I was a kid and like 90% of that time spent was in Space Stage. I loved it, the music and vibe was super chill. I wish they would make sequel (maybe one day)
It’s funny you say that cause that was always my favorite. I liked being able to explore other worlds, encountering other nations, space combat, nuking titans I’d come across, and I really liked the tedium of the spice trade. If I revisited it today I’d probably think it’s boring or doesn’t hold up anymore, but when I was a kid/pre-teen I spent hours playing space stage.
Also funnily enough can apply to the actual development of Spore. The demos showed at cons were amazing. The hype was so real. The evolution was originally supposed to be more realistic, underwater civilizations were a thing, the space stage was going to be this hard sci fi galactic adventure, and they had all this programmed and ready. They were showing it off. But EA thought it was too high concept and forced the team to dumb the game down at the last second and remove a bunch of content to focus mostly on the creature creator. Seeing it on launch was profoundly disappointing, but the fact it's still fun even after that just shows how good the original would have been.
That original version of Spore is still lost, only videos of it remain. EA snubbing him caused the creator (who also created the Sims) to leave and stop developing games, as far as I know. It was really sad.
is there any modern game that reuses the evolution mechanic and fixes that space age issue? or even mods that add more content. I'm always craving for spore but I want new stuff lol
Bruuuh 😭😭😭
It was the most fun stage for spore.
That stage is the one I've dedicated the most hours to, just building ridiculously large empires so that other runs could ally with each other and trade, it was peak.
Yeah. I did okay in Spore until the space section of the game. I unlocked the nuke ability and I accidentally nuked multiple planets due to misunderstanding missions that allies gave me. I'd think they wanted me to kill all of a certain species on one planet and assume it was the planet right next to them and then BAM, have their population is wiped out. It happened multiple times and got really awkward.
I don't think it's fair to say any game that has any sort of micro transactions will inevitably be designed to be less fun without them. I've played several that said MTX were completely optional, and didn't lie about it. AD and USI come to mind.
oh boy, time to shill for my favorite idle game, FE000000! its def one that i think is more appealing as a math nerd, but theres two things that it has going for it that stave off that problem:
- every tier of meta scaling is new, different, and increasingly unhinged
- the game has a well defined end point, at which point it stops amd youre done. (it still takes over a month to hit it if you know what youre doing so its not super short either)
they're literally games that mostly.play themselves. which is exactly how you should play them to fully enjoy them. you're not supposed to play them as your main game, rsther as something running in the backvround that tickles your dopamine-receptors via "numbers go up, now even uppier!".
Yeah, the first 1\~2 hours there's endless upgrades you can take, and insanely fun to progress. and then soon after u have to afk for 2 days straight to get 1 upgrade that will improve your stats for like 0.1%.
I remember one quote from Nerdcubed that describes it well. "It's a puzzle game that you can lose. It's a puzzle game that sometimes gives up on the pretense of being a puzzle game and goes 'fucking GUESS, guess you bitch!'"
Genshin and other similar games. The story just keeps on repeating with few added flavors and new characters.
Enter new area
Meet the new rare gacha characters
Kill some boss
Repeat
The issue with that is that they end up introducing gimmicky enemies that require certain characters, or characters that require certain other characters to be viable in endgame (so at their full potential) so you can get more pulls to repeat the cycle. Genshins suddenly doing this with Natlan and nod krai (new content) and it's caused me to stop playing it entirely because I spend like 3 minutes fighting an enemy others can blitz in 10 seconds because they have the new shiny character that does peepeepoopoo damage, whereas my character only does normal damage
Genshin does suck if you play endgame, especially SO on anything higher than hard mode. But because I'm a complete idiot, I only just put together a proper team and can 27 abyss, no 36 because again, I'm an idiot
I'm curious what your AR is, also what characters you enjoy playing, I didn't pull most characters from nodkri and still 36 star abyss with Navia, Chiori, Xilonen, and Furina as my best team
Hot take: I absolutely love gacha games, but only as a F2P player, and I have never spent a cent on a video game past the initial download price. Any collecting-type mechanic makes me go crazy and I love a sense of difficulty to pour some time into, especially with chance-based gimmicks, but the hype of it immediately dissipates upon investing real currency... I think it's more to do with the sense of achievement and overcoming the odds, for me.
Hey as a fellow gacha f2p enjoyer(kinda) I have to recommend warframe, it has a ton of characters(frames) to get and all of them are related to some kinda of chance based gimmick, but I feel its more fair because you can trade with others players just by farming characters pieces
That sounds excellent! Take up a lot of storage space, though? The main thing stopping me from downloading a bunch more gacha games is honestly my subpar availability of space on devices...
Well zzz is like 60gb on my pc, and warframe is 50gb, but yeah they do take a lot of space, there is Warframe for cellphone too, but I didn't play on it so I can't recommend
Yes! So satisfying when I'm upset to log on and see what I've gained over the years, much more than a majority of other players despite never having spent money on it... Makes me feel like even this small thing proves that I **am** capable of effort and dedication, even in my darkest moments...
I have a similar mindset, but I'm willing to pay a few pounds a month for a game I'm enjoying. To me making the most of that small budget is part of the challenge and I like planning around it.
Actually, I really like that too! If spending money on a game makes you happy and allows you to think about it and responsibly consider the implications of that, then I'd argue it's even a net positive for you- It's super important to emphasise your wellbeing and happiness, after all, and spending money on that sort of thing to a reasonable extent allows you to develop your self-control and critical thinking skills while promoting healthy self-care and enjoyment! An excellent idea!
I only ever bought like 1 skin (20 smth euros) in Nikke, mostly because it gave me so many good moments in the last 3 years, I considered it a compensation as if I bought the game.
It also gave me 10 pulls so there's that.
Even with a single purchase, I was still able to collect every single character (150+), with several copies of duplicates for most of them, and other than pvp I can comfortably engage in endgame content.
If your mind is so weak that you give in to gambling it's literally on you. If you feel that the game requires you to pay in order to be enjoyable, just fucking leave it. There are dozens of other ones. Or play a normal game.
I feel like limbus company is the exception, you can just buy the characters you want with the ingame currency without having to gamble. Im free to play and i have 100 - 200 hours and im up to the latest stsge in the story. There are also events which have a free character and you can get a bunch of resources just by playing the game how you normally would. It feels kinda like darkest dungeon. The gambling system genuinly feels pretty bait anyway.
What baffles me are all the F2P players. Why play the gambling game without gambling. Like imagine going to a casino just to drink tap water and listen to the machines make ungodly noise.
God forbid I have better things to spend my money on, and just genuinely enjoy the sense of achievement and gameplay mechanics. I heavily enjoy gacha games because I'm a hardcore completionist and the inherent idea of something being hard to obtain and ruled by chance is appealing to me. I like having something to grind out and pour my time into in the same way I love pokemon shiny hunting, and it feels great to know that what you have is from your own skill or dedication to something that you enjoy. The second I invest even a cent into a game, the thrill instantly vanishes.
it depends, some gachas arent pay to win, so you can log a 20 min session to do the dailies, collect your rewards and move to another game, not every game has to be an all nighter.
Fallout 4. I have hundreds of hours on it, but i finished the main quest line once, and in general the game gets stall in ate game and restart with a different build.
stealth archer is the only build that doesn't completely fucking suck. but the problem is that it's pretty basic and never changes from beginning to end in any way at all.
Idk man. The two handed mace head-bash killmove always gives me a chuckle. It's so excessive. In fact, two handed mace in general is a pretty great time. It does shine extra bright with mods, though, like every other part of Skyrim.
I always play One Handed+Destruction+Enchanting and it is always a ton of fun.
Not abusing any potions or enchanting shenanigans. Just level up destruction and enchanting to make a super magic sword and wack people with it. It they are far, you shoot them with fire balls.
Yeah I always found that going heavy into archery eventually left you feeling bored, destruction magic and one handed means you got range and melee and a fun special effects budget while you're at it
Switch Destruction for Restoration and add in shield.
Restoration perks give you infinite stamina pretty quick and infinite stamina shield bash is a nice combo. You have no good ranged options but with infinite stamina you can just sprint over to them
I have never once ran stealth archer through all my playthrough and combat was plenty fine. I also don’t play with mods so I’m sure people that do have a completely different standard as they already modified the game to fit exactly what they want anyways.
You start as a normal stealth archer, start learning conjuration or illusion, at first you can summon some weak minions or make enemies fight eachother while you pick at them from range, then later you can summon a magic bow, turn invisible etc.
Mage builds are quite fun when you play on higher difficulty and have to actually think about spells you use and not just nuke every room with fireballs.
At least stealth and Illusion builds have something you could call gameplay. For melee and destruction magic its just holding down one Button with zero feedback if the Action actually hit.
At least with melee, you can mix it up with some enchanted weapons and shield bashing. Pure magic in Skyrim is the worst of any ES game, since you can't make your own spells, so you're stuck spamming the same one over and over.
Ah thanks for that. I was asking because my wife will maybe start Skyrim someday soon, and honestly, once she realizes this is a way to play, she will love it 😃 Thats not a negative for her, there are more diamonds behind the diamonds
Yeah it’s actually crazy when you look at the game and start to see that it is almost perfectly designed to encourage the stealth archer gameplay, and almost all playthroughs even when you intentionally try to avoid stealth archer you can get sucked into it very easily.
Advice for any new skyrim runs, if you’re going to do an assassin sneaky character build, ditch the bow entirely and force yourself to only go for melee in stealth. Genuinely really fun
They really need to remake the games completly, updating the game so that the gameplay actually enhances the amazing story and world that it is trying to convey, rather than bismerching it with dog gameplay (the games are old so I understand that the gameplay is dated, and people can play them with rose tinted glasses).
Then they can finish the story completely without the rushed rgb ending.
Yeah. I wish in the start we could choose - either escape with Cerberus for "renegare" playthrough, or go with Alliance with "paragon" one. Also all of those decisions in games before? They should count! What did they do to rachni queen....
The cruicible is a stupid mcguffin. Should be removed or re-worked completely. And the ending too, should be different altogether. No ghosty-boys and RGB endings
The Crucible is a McGuffin, but that's honestly not only the ME3 teams fault. The previous games did basically nothing to set up a weapon against the Reapers. Any solution would have felt like a McGuffin. That said there are aspects to the Crucible that I like, such as it being this collective effort by all the cycles.
Yeah, that's never going to happen. Bioware is barely holding on as it is. No way big daddy EA would allow a risky project like that. I don't necessarily disagree with you, though. Mass Effect is one of my favorite game series of all time. A chance to get a proper ending to it would be amazing.
I put off finishing me3 for the longest time, until my bro in law challenged me to finish it in something like two days and he'd buy doom eternal + any DLCs that came out.
I had me3 cleared in about a day + good ending too
Being real for a moment, I don't see a way to fix the rgb ending beyond just making it an r ending, if you get my meaning. The Crucible just destroys the Reapers and how much else gets destroyed along the way is based on how many good boy war points you got. I don't see this being liked by fans either though since we're taking away last minute choices and people love clicking dialogue buttons.
There shouldnt be a choice at the end of the game, the last 10% of the trilogy should be locked in and be completely driven by everything you have done up to that point
True. Green makes 0 sense, it's just blatant space magic. Maybe blue can be left as a "bad" ending, since it also makes no sense to "control" the reapers. Isn't it just normal indoctrination logic?
Yeah. Green always weirded me out. Blue is a nice [bad end] if you rewrite it as Shephard ending up indoctrinated, just like the Illusive Man was. Then you can also have the reject the choice ending where the galaxy fights on and maybe the next cycle fixes it.
Literally every mobile game mmo base builder. Hook you with free gems, very fast construction times, then slow it down and throw microtransactions at you every 20 minutes
Dukes archives and the new londo ruins are pretty cool. But yeah ever DS run i basically quit after Anor Londo because lost izaleth and Tomb of Giants suck.
After O&S I told my friends that the game is finished for me. I have seen a few runs and knew what was coming up and I said a hard no, not masochist enough.
Most of the time they just fall short unless they are some autism industry mods.
Mashing up a ton of unrelated mods leads to not such a cohesive gaming experience most of the time, I really wish there was a mod like calamity but for minecraft
I think you just need to avoid putting some really obnoxious mods. Like jutsu kaisen mods, because being able to flatten out a forest isn't really that fitting, and messes with the power balance completely.
Some world with my friends died pretty much immediately after people put a mod like that in the server. Like, it sounds cool on paper, but it just clashes too much with everything else.
I meant the popular mod packs that I see on YouTube and social media, I’ve tried many, but it’s always some bullshit with 10 different unbalanced and unrelated power systems and you always start with like 10 books and tons of different shit that just constantly reminds you that it isn’t one content mod, but rather a mashup of different mods.
Honestly if you know of a good mod pack with good exploration and adventure then tell me, terraria calamity left the bar pretty high for me in terms of content mods
Dont forget to mention the lovely "can't use the weapon because not enough level in xyz stat" and the weapon will be a basic ass iron sword.
Whats even worse is that it takes ages to level up anything, so you just quit the modpack 15 minutes in because you cant use any of the fun stuff you find.
I always thought there’s probably a reason why no one has taken such a monumental task, just how physicist kill themselves after studying thermodynamics, but if you manage to enjoy the process of making that mod, you might just make Minecraft history
these were the words i was looking for man. minecraft's a really fun game but unless you have a minecraft hyperfixation it gets boring once you max everything out
I wish expert packs existed in modern versions. I do still love 1.12.2, but I like a lot of the vanilla features and mod selection from the newer versions as well.
Imagine this gang, what if you actually play good mods??
Make a new world, get yourself create and create aeronautics and figure out everything yourself using the ponder feature. I did that and it was the most fun I ever had in a video game hands down.
That’s because it’s supposed to be a grind, beginning to end. But that’s why you use that time during machine processes to deck out your base and explore other tech/magic mods inside
Same, and I tried for so long to press carbon with my bare hands. Took a long tike to realize that just the act of digging and seeing cool new rocks, valuable or not, was pretty cool on its own.
Yeah, it was just shit. At least now I've gotten used to the taste and have figured out some pretty nice ways to cook the shit to make it palateable. When you're a kid, you have no coping mechanisms yet and no freedom or autonomy to figure any out, so it's like you get full force diarrhea straight into your cerebral cortex courtesy of life itself.
I do sometimes both envy and pity the people who had diamond childhoods. On one hand it was probably a lot harder emotionally to go from diamonds to shit. On the other, at least you had some diamonds and I'm sure that gives you a level of hope and compassion someone who's been buried in shit the whole time may not have.
I was talking with my doctor, since this was my first physical after turning 30.
And it's really weird how often I hear from people who dislike how they spent their 20s, or insisted that 30 was when you really start being who you are, and start living your truth.
I've got a bunch of other small anecdotes, but they all tl;dr to say "It's true, what they say: life is truly what you make of it."
Yeah, being given optionality and mobility fuckin rules, I’m stoked everyday that I’m not in my childhood bedroom watching king of the hill reruns and desperately waiting out the school week
I still watch king of the hill reruns but everything else has changed significantly for the better
This depends very heavily on how you grew up. I'm on the flip side. I had plenty of freedom and my parents left me alone once I hit like 11 or 12 years old. So I was chilling and would love to go back and live like that again. High school was peak growing up for me since I had mobility and freedom of a teenager without the burden of expenses and a full time job. I find it interesting how different people answer a question like this.
Yeah people like to bitch and moan but I’d take adult responsibilities in exchange for freedom 8 days a week. It’s so, so much better than being a kid and I didn’t have a bad childhood either.
Depends on how you live it and your environment. If you constantly get pampered by your parents, growing up privileged in a majority neighborhood.... And after you turn 20'ish you suddenly have to care for yourself, no one pays your expensive toys that you were used to and you have to wash your shitty underpants all by yourself.
Yes, then adult life might be shit.
But there are people who had a shitty childhood.and only after they finally got rid of their parents grip, they bloomed. Made a lot of friends, had a good time, finally making progress in something like a career.
Yeah, here here. It's not that life has gotten any easier since I've become an adult, I'd say it's been shit mode the whole time with very rare diamonds in-between the corn, but now I am free to wade where I like in the shit cavern. I'd rather face adversity than abuse.
League of Legends.
Started playing with friends and we had so much fun for months.
Lost friends in the process and end up up grinding ranked just to burn out and drop the game for good.
It's like a drug. 9 games out 10 are shit. But that 1 great game of LoL is better than anything you've ever played. So you grind through the following shit games chasing after that pure hit of dopamine.
It is. And the worst part is that you stop enjoying wins at some point, it doesn't make you feel great anymore, it's more like a relief, because if you lose you'll get tilted and feel like absolute garbage.
Now hold on a second- the problem absolutely is my fucking teammate on Halo Wars 2. I play with a friend in 3v3s. After like 10:30pm the only solo queue-ers playing the game don't even have a second base 10 minutes into the game. Sometimes they don't even build fucking units! Or they build units and then refuse to do anything with them.
i enjoyed playing league a year or so back (exclusively non-ranked solo queue) and the issues which i'd otherwise be dealing with were bearable enough. i dropped it because riot's shoving its rootkit up our asses and i don't like the idea of the chinese government having one on my PC
That is so real, the phase of league after beeing good enough to understand the basics and not good enough to grind ranked was genuinely peak gaming experience
The trick is to stay gold-level. Like not really terrible, but also decent enough to carry every now and then. Just run it down mid every once in a while, the proper LoL way.
Copium, it gets better after gold. Emerald is peak league in my opinion. Teammates start being constantly decent and honest less toxic. Silvers are the most atrocious group of mentally ill people I have ever encountered.
Fuck, I actually get you there. I've never been good enough to get above gold, but Silvers are genuinely some of the worst. They think they're the best cause they got out of Bronze so they constantly talk down but refuse to take any pointers or advice themselves.
Maybe Emerald is good but Diamond 5 was by far the most toxic players before Emerald was a rank. The Gold-Plat area was the best mix of players a few years back. It took me longer to rank out of silver than Gold when I was doing the grind and then felt like I was back in Silver once I was trying to get out of Plat 1 in terms of trolling and toxicity, except the diamond players knew how to better help the other team
Yeah LoL definitely suffers in the higher levels from over-optimization in the meta. If you are basically limited to only ten of the most powerful champions at a given time with very specific strategies that have to go off without a hitch every single game, gotta have your runes a certain way, gotta do the pick a certain way, no room for failure to stay in the upper levels of the player base, that's no longer a game that's, like, doing taxes while your Asian dad yells at you over your shoulder. No longer fun, no longer any room for out of the box thinking. People treat it as a sport but I would argue most high level sports even have more room for improvisation and creativity.
Gold level is perfect for being able to bust out sleeper builds and do fun shit while still being matched with people who know what they're doing.
Every single person I know who hates the game burned out on ranked. The people I know that enjoy the game play it casually. Something something dont let your hobby become your job.
I mean you can just... not grind ranked regardless of your skill lmao.
I started playing after Arcane came out, am now level 500+ and pretty good at the game, and have yet to touch ranked once. Playing normals and Mayhem with friends only.
Solo/duoqueue is a hellscape. Playing alone is a hellscape (I'm a jungle main...)
But playing with friends in normals and ranked flex? So much fun tbh. Like the feeling of when you and your friends come together and achieve a great game together is amazing.
... And then there's the opposite type of game where everything just goes to fucking hell where you're stuck in it for at least another 15 minutes.
People always say that games like dota and Lol are only fun with full stack of friends,but with randoms it s usually toxic hell and stuff. Does anyone like stayed in this "fun" while not crossing " hategrind" territory? And how?
only enjoy the game with friends personally and my friend group is good enough to not get torn apart by a videogame. we all enjoy the game and 5-stacking casually is super super fun. soloqueue ranked climbing can be fun but only if you have an extremely healthy relationship with competitiveness and dont get addicted. you need a specific mindset and personality to enjoy soloqueue
How did you lose friends? lol. My friends and I tried it, a few of us just found it boring after a few weeks and the other 2 kept playing in their spare time but would still play other games with us.
Yeah just a weird lack of social awareness and being a control freak that hates when other people dare to enioy things in a different way than themselves.
Tarkov is shit all the way through, the game looks and plays like ass and it's irritating getting my head taken off by some fucker who was just a mere pixel on my screen that I had no cgance of ever seeing/reacting to
Also games like apples to apples or cards against humanity. They're funny until you start seeing the same things over and over again, or the groups humor gets sorted. It's like oh it's Dave's turn again, pull out your pop culture refrence cards.
Yup. It was cool at first, but then every 10th prestige you saw was obviously gotten from a modded server, and then it meant nothing. I ended just prestiging once and hitting 70 and leaving it there.
I got boosted to 70 in a modded/hacked/whatever you wanna call it server in MW2 back when it was current. I didn't know much about how it worked so I showed my friend and he was like "Dude, you can prestige!" I thought this was some awesome flex so I prestiged and subsequently lost all the guns I had just unlocked in an instant. I was happy that I had everything unlocked and planned on keeping it that way only to lose it all within a few hours. I was devastated lmao.
Haha yeah, going from that AK to the base classes always hurt at first until I got good enough to breeze through the levels with a UMP-45 and stopping power lol
wasn't another point of prestige that you could unlock new perks/better variants of perks and also be able to combine weapon attachments that couldn't be worn together prior to prestiging?
On my main PC I have an entire SSD dedicated to the game, which sadly takes up a fifth of the space before installing maps, but yeah, theyre fantastic and better than zombies has ended up today. Got a great mix of classic style and borderline campaigns. No way CoD devs will allow it since it extends the life of the game indefinitely and they want people to keep picking up the newest game.
I just saw someone on COD Zombies post how the game isn’t safe to play on PC? That even with a legit Steam install, the dude faced hackers online that messed with their game and panicked cause they thought the hackers could have more access to your computer.
I’m a noob in all this and didn’t even understand much. Is your experience with Bo3 on PC fine?
Ive been fine, but i haven't played MP in years and there have been exploits, so its best just to keep it solo or with friends. People can literally have access to your PC with some exploits. Zombie maps are safe as well. It is well worth it just for zombies solo or with friends.
Gotcha. I was wondering whether to leave it to an old laptop that’s fully offline. But maybe I should just read up about it properly and prepare my regular PC well for it 🤔
What the fuck do you mean we get another op girl with sad backstory? Again?
Why is the protagonist so incompetent?
Why is the outfit for Lycaon in the Collab isn't obtainable???
And lore problem. Why the fuck are all the people here are stylish? Like, isn't this the last place where people can live a "normal" life? Ts so bullshit tho and honestly it just feels like they are going for more fanservice than designs that speaks for the character...
And finally, If we have all these powerful competent dangerous women here. Why can't we just use them to massacre a entire population of ethereal (enemies in game who are reanimated magic corpses) in each hollow?
Mind you, we basically got walking nukes as our agents. SO WHY ARE WE STILL STUCK AS THE "last city gang! We can't do shit!"
YOU CAN! YOU LITERALLY CAN! IT ONLY TAKES A CONCENTRATED EFFORT!
AND EVEN THE SMALLEST GIRLS CAN PARRY TONS OF HEAVY METAL GOING AT MACH SPEED AT THEIR DIRECTION! THEY ARE DANGEROUS! THEY ARE NOT TO BE MESSED WITH! SL WHY CAN'T WE JUST BUTCHER THEM ALL!?!?
AND I HATE HOW THEY DESTROY THEIR OWN IDENTITY AS A UNIQUE GAME NOW! The TV idea was awesome, the characters costume tells me what hey are, the protagonist are entertaining and competent but now???? They butchered their identity for the sake of familiarity. The fuck??????
any game with more than like 3 discoverable endings. i am not replaying ur shit regardless of how good it was, just to discover the ending where Scrimblo Bimblo doesnt die because i took the Emerald Of Death back to the start of the game.
Far Cry 3. After Vaas' death the game is pretty much over, the second island and the final boss just feel like a artificial extension of the game. No real story and no felt stakes.
No real story? There’s the entire privateer storyline with the German guy (if you remember anyone’s name but Vaas and Jason you’re a fucking liar,) where you end up having to torture your buddy. Also, you get the wingsuit.
Such an amazing game in the early tiers, very unique feeling to most vehicles, fast rewarding progression, and then you get past like tier 4 or 5 and it becomes an absolute slog
well you don't have to play top tier. I miss the days of Mig15 vs F86A Sabres ... then they started adding the CL13 and for me it went downhill from there...
I don't understand why more people don't just play realistic battles with props... a lot more fun than getting shot at with missiles from everywhere
As someone who actually played Destiny 2 since launch (and still does), No one actually replayed the Red War or Forsaken. The tangled shore was forgotten and used only to "Return to Spider". Anyone telling you "I miss doing the Baron hunts!" is lying.
They tried to move the story to a live service where new players canonically woke up after the war and therefore don't need to complete it. I still think the new player experience is a hot mess, but it is worth mentioning that they tried to streamline it instead of a new player having to play through 6 yearly DLCs and numerous seasonal campaigns just to catch up.
Destiny 2 is a terrible fps from the jump, at least in its current state. Basically zero story, minimal direction, bunch of fetch quests, unintuitive mechanics, and probably the worst inventory system I've ever seen. I never played at launch, but my ex asked me to play with her and it was genuinely an awful experience. You need a website and an app to make it remotely functional.
Yeah, it's the best game I ever uninstalled and will never touch again. Nice ending point at The Final Shape and then "they all lived happily ever after" is how I treat it.
I didn't really care about the grind but Bungie as a whole never respected their player's investment into their game. Hypocritical whales kept them fed for a long time
yeaah... i dropped off after witch queen because my friends stopped playing and the price was too steep. Which was such a hard decision to make because i love the guns in the game, just couldn't justify the expense anymore
Overwatch, I played every since 2 came out, and it was so fun at first, but recently it felt like I was just doing a chore l, the winds didn't really feel the part, and I wasn't getting enjoyment from it anymore
Yes and no, I think it peaks in like diamond. Where everyone has a baseline level of skill but there's room to do off meta things with sufficient skill.
The rage Overwatch induces in me is unholy. It’s led to me saying some genuinely demonic things. We won’t talk about how this is most certainly a skill issue on my part.
I would argue that many of them are good while you are still in the story part and making your character grow, but with time I understood that basically I liked the oart of the MMOs that felt like a single-player RPG and disliked everything that made them a MMO
That's the only reason I like Elder Scrolls Online, but believe me if there was a way for me to mod a complete map of all of Tamriel into Skyrim and play a fully voiced massove singleplayer campaign for the next 5 years straight, I would in a heartbeat
MMOs are shit because the players turned into shit. An MMO is suposed to be a game mixed with a social network to do stuff with people while you grind and then players turned it into a turbo optimization game with no place for idle fun.
exactly. now bring back early to mid 10s League "balancing" back (spoiler: there barely was any, which made the game inherently fun), Riot games. I want to kill some overfed Jax who think they're unstoppable
Tbh that’s why i eventually dropped TF2 back in the day. A ton of weapons just lost all their sauce because they weren’t "balanced", so now there’s only 2 viable scatterguns and grenade launchers (aside from the loose cannon) are basically placebos of eachother.
I want to refute this, but I have started two separate playthroughs of RE6 with different people and both fizzled out around the same time. Maybe you have a point...
That’s the thing! The game isn’t terrible mechanics-wise. It just greatly, greatly overstays its welcome and becomes a tedious slog. The mechanics are there but the gameplay design is mediocre.
Not bad? I think it's considered one of the, if not the best of the modern resident evil games? Where did you even hear the hate part? Some people might have some minor issues with that game but I believe it's a general consensus that the game has excellent horror and environments and the new RE engine performance is still exceptional to the day (an was when RE7 released)?
The unskippable videotape in the Ship is a straight line annoyance. But I agree that Mia’s present day is a proper RE section, and the crawlers are great enemies there.
Oh yeah, the tape is a bit meh, but it goes smoother than some other sections because you get a new gun (even if it kinda sucks it's fun to use an automatic gun recklessly lol) and the bombs, so you get some new toys to play with.
As soon as you get back to present time Mia, you have a multi-layered area you can traverse in different ways, some optional loot to work towards and the crawlers are an actual threat rather than an annoyance you can solve by popping on shotgun shell.
This is kinda my criticism towards some other parts of the game in general. Lucas section is fun but linear and Marguerite old house is made annoying by the fucking bugs being the single most obnoxious this franchise ever had.
I am particularly pissed about the Marguerite section because the house is creepy and fun to explore, but the bugs are simply way too fucking boring to deal with. She is also a lot of waste potential. Good concept to have a "weak" boss that relies on ambushing and deploying minions but good fucking Lord how much health does she have and why the fuck does she spend more time scuttling around the walls than actually ambushing you.
With Mia it's as if they suddenly remembered what RE gameplay loop was.
All of them pretty much have a last section consist of a linear level with crappy and confusing level design filled with dudes that can instant kill you even if you only show them your little toe.
Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey. Actually had story, characters, variety, and actual exploration.
Then it goes into shitty MMO RPG grinding mode and it’s not even a MMO RPG. At least in those, there’s other people to hang out with while you grind.
I played so much classic up until before they dropped Burning Crusade in.
I loved it. But raiding and guilds absolutely killed my desire to ever play the game again. Ever.
It's solved content. Why in the fuck are we stressing out over spreadsheets?
People pulled dumb bullshit over loot, friendships ended over guild drama, judgements made purely based on values from a spreadsheet.
You want to talk pure numbers around DPS? Fine. There's merit to that. But healing and tanking? So much more goes into those roles than spamming buttons and slapping a two digit number on someone.
I got bored of grinding at around level 50 and started playing the auction house. Started by resetting prices and cornering smaller markets, by the time I got banned I was employing around 30 ppl intermittently and about 70-80% of all AH listings were mine though cutouts via my guild mates. Taught me a lot about the economy. I was like 13 lol
Retail maybe, with classic thats pretty much where it ends for most. Early leveling is a completely unique experience, very social and every item, boss and dungeon feels great. Have not experienced anything similar in any game. Then lvl 50+ is the same old MMO grind of dungeon/raid etc with sweaty nerds who don't want to interact with anyone, just grind as fast as possible. Got boring real fast for me then
Classic up until I think Pandaria used to have a really well crafted levelling system, each zone you went had quest chains to follow and encouraged world exploration. When they redid the world with Cataclysm, despite however you feel about that, the world still had that crafted story, more defined and linear story telling than classic did. But when they re-balanced the leveling and squashed exp gains, you'd often outlevel the zone you were in almost immediately, leaving stuff flat and unfinished and propelling you towards endgame which is mostly sitting around in a city while in a queue for a dungeon
10 man Raiding might be the most fun I've ever had playing a video game. I've raided from Wotlk classic and we're about to start Siege of Orgrimmar in MoP now.
In 10 man heroics you can't afford to carry anyone's weight so every person is important and every person has to contribute strategically. Calling out cool downs, trying to figure out what optimizations your class can make to make the fight easier for everyone else, and mastering your rotation to do the most dps or healing you can is just so much fun. Nothing beats killing the boss you've been stuck on for weeks. The people I play with have become some of my closest friends. It's amazing.
I will say, that it's a lot less fun when you play with people who treat it like a job. You've gotta find a guild that has the right balance of hardcore raiding with casual mindsets.
Hot take but Borderlands. I know its depends on preference but grinding over and over again isn't my thing. I realized what this game is about far too late, I basically got to the point where beating a single regular story mission enemy took me a solid several minutes, and I could get killed it several shots. Then I realized you had to grind to level your character up and hope to get lucky to get high level and stat gear. I honestly love BL2 but I can't for the love of it grind so much. I first had to drop the game during the boss fight where you save Roland because that fuckass combine broodmother type boss kept screwing me so much it just decided to leave the map so I had to go to a completely separate place to get it. Then I returned again and played for longer (even played some of the DLCs and they're so awesome like the main game aside from gridning) but eventually dropped the game for good around where you start going go Handsome Jack's evil mordor looking area. Those hyperion robots gave me PTSD to this day, if I hear those robot walking thumps I completely lose my shit, or when I just remember the sounds of them landing from the sky I just go insane.
Only if you do ultimate vault hunter mode after beating the story twice. You almost have to farm certain bosses for certain gear, especially if you want to do OP levels. I lived it but it's not for everyone.
Yeah you're right. I have no idea then, first time through should be a breeze. I'm guessing they didn't do a single side quest then or very few at most.
This is my impression. I replayed Borderlands 2 enough that I got the sidequests I did down to a science. Have no clue what they are, I just know on playthroughs I've had since that a sidequest would appear and I intrinsically know whether or not I need to do it to stay on level with enemies.
To be fair, I feel like the story of Bl2 uses urgency to add tension. Great for the atmosphere of the game, but bad for people who think they're under a constant timer. Once you realize you can take your time and Bl2 isn't like a choice-based game or a time-gated game, it gets a lot easier. I could absolutely see someone new to the game rushing through the main story by accident
Nah, it's just not that hard. Especially if you use the right weapons and get a well synergized build. You also don't have to grind gear that much. Also, you don't have to grind to get the perfect gun, whites and greens are more than enough to beat the game most of the time. If you don't mind me asking, what class did you play as?
I felt like I had hit a wall the same way you had, but then I got the idea to re-spec my character (which you do in Sanctuary, at the same place you change skins) and put all my skill points into one specific tree instead of spreading them around like I had been doing prior. After that, I practically flew through the rest of the game
I really should give the game a second chance sometime. Unfortunately my new pc cannot run the game at all so it won't be anytime soon. It's genuinely one of my most favourite games and it feels kind of unfair to leave it off the way I did
There's also no shame in getting a better loot mod. It's a singleplayer game. For second+ playthroughs, I always get a good loot mod cus I actually want to try all the legendary guns and I don't want to spend 3 years grinding.
Borderlands is the fucking worst game franchise to me. We once played it for HOURS in coop and it felt like I was still doing the tutorial. We just progressed through the game with zero resistance and every second of it felt like shit
Yeah i loved the game but all the nerfs and stale gameplay plus the devs complete lack of care killed it for me. Uninstalled for Arc Raiders when that came out and though i still enjoy it, unfortunately could go the same way, if Embark dont get their shit together lol.
That and their complete inability to literally add anything except warbonds. People have been waiting for ship upgrades or a reason to use almost any game resource outside of medals. They’ve made it clear they don’t really give a shit and we’ll just get a a half baked warbond and a cookie cutter biome every few months.
I'm stupid, is the point that he has to work hard to get to the good part? Or is he stoked the whole time because there are diamonds followed by a door to a whimsical world?
Tic Tac Toe. Once you figure out a good strategy the game becomes nothing. Years wasted trying to perfect my technique, only to burnout and become a severe alcoholic.
Indeed. Most kids figure the game out in a couple of hours of play and immediately become severe alcoholics. Society has got to do something about it. Enough is enough.
If your opponent knows how to play it always ends in a draw, unless someone is stupid enough to not choose the center first, which means they don't know how to play anyway.
Common knowledge is to start in the center, but if you start in a corner, you can bait them into losing... X in corner, they probably follow with O in the middle, you put X in the opposite corner (which seems like a stupid move but it's not), they put O in another corner, you put X in the last corner, and now they're fucked because you win.
This assumes O makes a pretty bad fumble with the corner move. The first three moves listed are all optimal, but if O plays a side then it ends in a draw, which is the best O can do if X plays optimally. If O plays anywhere except the center, they will lose.
Yeah, this only catches someone once or twice, if their only prior tic-tac-toe strategy consisted of "the middle is the best square, the corners are second best"
Starting the center is not optimal play. Unless you were talking about the second player. Optimal first move is always take a corner. You can force a win if the second player plays anything other than the center.
then is a draw, thats the best possible scenario if you start, there isn't really a way to force a win, the opponent can always cause a draw, but you are right as well, starting from the corner gives more opportunities to commit mistakes to your rival, so it may be better if the opponent doesn't know how to play, imo center is superior because its over quickly and guarantees a draw at worse.
It doesn't really become shit, you just run out of diamonds. Anyway, I recommend trying the Connect 4 or Gomoku dlc, they expand the base game so much.
ARPGs and borderlands can feel like slot machines for Millennials in the worst way.
Especially Diablo and PoE when you finish the story and have to grind for weird currency to get special maps to get specific loot under crazy conditions. I know its fun for a lot of folks but I feel like I've gotta do spread sheets in between playing the most boring inventory loot management system. I get a little dopamine rush when I find that good item... Whoopdeedoo, I actually need a minimum 20 of them because that only got me one chance at the thing I need... back to grinding.
Story was ass, guns were stereotypical archetypes, classes were unimaginative but holy hell when a full build comes together and you just smite a poor little gremlin with the full power of God. Beautiful.
Shame the devs cut and ran after they released that overpriced garbage dlc
I never even got to the end ngl, I played it when it first came out and jusy saw it as a 3rd person destiny clone with a story that was very difficult to follow
Genshin was so unbelievably fun on my initial playthrough, but once you discover the whole map through the statues, it starts to die down, and then once you finish the "main" quest (you can skip straight to the "New" main quest) there is little to do besides events and even those have been sidelined for the wonderland gamemode
FF16 for me. Starts off very strong but then it becomes a bunch of fetch quests and bloat that just muddles the entire experience. I was not a fan of many of the side quests and feel the game could do without them as well.
I have 1000+ hours on rivals. I find the fun in mastering each character. 18 lords now at this point. Plus the arcade mods they come out with keeps it kinda fresh, but also, I can see where you're coming from. I just invent the fun along the way
I love helldivers 2 but its a broken buggy mess lacking content where it matters like weapon customization and ship upgrades all they do now is shit out a warbond occasionally. Rivals was fun until they added brain rot characters that ruin all the fun while also making terrible balancing decisions. Both suck and I hardly play either anymore
helldivers 2 is infested with immense issues that make it half the game it deserves to be, but it was in a much worse state on launch. rivals i havent played since like season 3 so i cant really talk but i did have fun with it, my friends just lost interest. i guess i just dont understand this concept of a high of trying a new game lmfao im not gonna enjoy a shit game just because its new
It's really not that difficult to understand. new game comes out and IF you like it you overlook the flaws and issues in game but the more you play the more you notice them and the more annoying they are because they don't get fixed or even addressed, it's why games like hd2, rivals, bf6, arc raiders and other successful games get praised at launch but if you look at the the communities now it's just people complaining about everything. When I started playing hd2 last summer I thought it was amazing and couldn't stop playing and didn't understand why there was so much vitriol all the time and even clowned the people complaining non-stop but the more I played the more I realized how shallow, buggy, and broken the game is. Lack of end game content, bugs/glitches that have been around since before I started playing, terrible balancing, not enough info in game and instead being shared in fucking discord, weapon customization is a joke, and more. Now I play like once a week same with rivals.
I disagree with Helldivers honestly. I'm at 200 hours mostly solo diving and still love the game very much. If friends play which is a rarity it's even more fun.
I'm also an Overwatch enjoyer since OW1 release, Rivals biggest problem is that the neutral game is rly boring, whoever has the most impact with their ult normally wins the team fight. If they solved that I feel like the game would be a lot better.
Bioshock 1. Everything leading up to Ryan is so fucking good. Then that scene hits and your mind is blown away, and it's probably the greatest thing gaming has ever done.
And then the last third is just kind of hollow and empty.
The thing about Bioshock 2 is that while it never hit the heights of the first, it was just consistently very good to decent.
System Shock 2 did this to a degree, but the after that scene, it mostly continues as good as it did before, since it leans a lot more on isolated atmosphere than on story.
Same with infinite for me. The game is so sick for me up until around rescuing Elizabeth from the tower. But once we get into comstockception and time fuckery is where the game loses me FAST
The "main" line, limgrave to lucaria to leyndell, is solid, everything after and most of the optional stuff ranges from ok to pure garbage. Everyone hates on Dark Souls 1's endgame, but imo elden ring's is much worse, to the point that it's straight up not enjoyable. I actually kinda like the ds1 endgame, aside from izalith, i dont get the hate. Meanwhile most of my elden ring runs either end or get put on hold after leyndell. Fire giant, foreskin duo, maliketh, and the all knowing fuck are dumper fires, I'd rather fight bed of chaos 10 times than any of those pieces of shit once.
I think this image fits the description of the feeling when you log on an online competitive game for fun then minutes later you want to end someone irl
i can't even give a better example right now just because i've been pissed about genshin for a little bit, game's stuck in 2021, they actively hurt f2p players more and more, barely giving the game proper QoL improvements, it just keeps getting worse
The Sims 4. On paper almost every expansion is fantastic, but when you own them all it's a shit show of notifications, options and the life panels become 4km long.
I learned the other day that you can turn off some apps on the sims phone (cupid corner thing and the bunny social network thing). It doesn't fix all of the notifs but it helps.
unironically modding Skyrim. Imagine spending weeks installing mods and making your game rival any other modern games and just getting bored after 5 minutes.
Another crab’s treasure. In a game full of bright colors and happy music, the last few hours are the opposite. Pitch black silence at the bottom of the ocean while you dodge your way through way too many giant laser crabs.
It works with the game’s themes of depression and the inevitability of ecological damage, but man is it genuinely grating to be in darkness and silence for that long.
FF15 has to be one of the best examples of this. Pretty decent first and second act only to fucking DESTROY any hope of a good ending with some random timeskip that ruins the pacing of the whole game
damn OP i feel the same way. IMO Mondstadt, Liyue, Inazuma were peak Genshin. Sumeru and Fontaine were still pretty good all things considered. Then Natlan came and I just completely lost interest and still haven’t finished it.
Holy shit take
Everything from mondstand to Inazuma was literally trash(plotwise).
It only started to pick up on sumeru, and since then Every update has been pretty much better than the last
Weird because I have the exact opposite experience. The first 3 nations were swell but felt a little dry in terms of personality and overall story, but Sumeru - especially with the sidequests - were really enjoyable. And Fontaine? The ocean exploration was so fun I'm sad we've never returned. Natlan and being able to play as different saurians was close, but not quite as fun. I will say its story and most of the characters were kinda dull, but meh, it's a game with like 5,000 hours of content I'm not gonna cry if there's a few misses here and there.
Fontain was peak genshin. Amazing characters. Gorgeous open world. Story with a believable twist. The traveller feels like the catalyst, rather than being the sole savior of the country. And the BGM-OSTs? Absolute cinema.
Genshin impact is divided in story quality and gameplay quality.
Early to mid Genshin, Mond to Inazuma is mid story, good gameplay. The story was still trying to figure itself out and the open world shine was still present.
Mid to late Genshin, Sumeru to Nod Krai is great story, mid gameplay. The story found its footing but the first real wave of powercreep has happened.
I agree but I think what makes genshin shit is not relevant to story or zones but game systems
When you first start you play the game. You explore, do the story, kill some innocent hilichurls, just do whatever you want.
As time goes on you meet extremely bullshit systems. The scam weapon banner, low pull counts, weekly boss limits, boring artifact farms, repetitive reputation grinds, exploration QoL locked behind limited 5 stars, zone exclusive mechanics that make some enemies very annoying to fight against and more
I disagree partially. I found Mondstadt’s story to be quite basic, which is understandable since it’s the first chapter, but I was still bored. Liyue and Inazuma were great, but imo Genshin peaked with Fontaine. Personally I found the story to be the best as well as exploration and side quests.
I stopped playing after Natlan though, we agree on that. Will probably start again when Capitano comes back
Different take for me on Genshin and gacha games as a whole.
Genshin is great at the start of any update since there's a huge map to explore, stuff to find... But that's like 2 days. Then it devolves into doing your dailies, doing the event... Essentially a second work to get the crumbs they give you to roll characters. Gameplay itself in the end is essentially looping the same skills and ultimates and even the events often have a gameplay that's shallow at best but let's face it the goal isn't friction with the player. It's to make you feel good and give you the feeling that you achieved something so that you come back playing every day until the day you snap and start putting money in the game thinking "well I've played for free for so many hours, I can give the game some money". Realized recently I'm not "playing" these games to truly play them but to get paid with some free currency.
Ended up stopping all gacha games a few days prior aside from Project Sekai (rythm game so the bonuses the gacha characters grant you actually feel more like cheats than actual gameplay).
have to agree. I have some fond memories about the early coop event, like the one we fought the cryo flower in dragonspine, the gameplay is fun, the asthetic is good, it was lovely. And then the "nation of war" came and it looks like goddamn Disneyland. They also really fucked up the personality of their cool characters, having them say cringe stuffs in side events (looking at you Raiden Shogun, why tf would you go to the wood alone and happen to meet us building a cringe fest over here?)
This is literally the exact opposite of Genshin, lmao. Exploring is fun, but the real good stuff usually isn't the archon quests, its the world quests and the lore you find in the background. Or go a step farther and actively listen to the OST albums instead of just leaving it in the background.
I was questing with someone and we were casually complaining together and they went "yeah I actually hate this game too" and truer words have never been spoken lol
Yeah that's a big one for me. Really enjoyed playing through it with a friend, but then once we got to the deep desert we realised it was pointless. To do anything fun you'd need to join a big guild to PVP and that just doesn't seem fun, since the game can be so glitchy. Looking at the patch notes though they seem to be changing things. I figure if I give it a couple years there might be a reason to play through to the end game again.
Stormworks. Game starts out fun and unique, wow i can build ships and many other crafts and do rescue and resource missions! Except the buoyancy mechanics are terrible and the building. And the missions mean nothing and there is no progression or need to build more or other ships.
It's a throwback to games like Sacrifice. And I'm glad that's in the game, it's still a unique cool experience till this day - both in terms of world design/setting and the gameplay.
Wish EA would've done just two things - actually market it as what the game devs developed it, i.E. a game like Sacrifice we haven't seen in years, and actually let them finish the game properly. Fuck you EA execs.
First is a diamond, even though the lord souls areas are kinda poopy. Ds2 is ass all the way and ds3 beginning is really meh until the quality starts rising later in the game and just keeps going up until the end. Imho.
For honor. It was amazing back when the tone was gritty and everyone sucked at the game equally. Now its a tryhard toxic flashy hellscape with heroes getting released broken every time.
A game doesn't need to be hardcore hard to not be boring. People going through some of the most astetically beautiful areas like verdania, or fights like carmelita, garmond, sett, the tower and the abyss, which all carry different impact for the story with beautiful soundtracks and call it boring after going through act 1 and 2 is a wild take.
The thing with Minecraft is that there’s effectively no good progression system to keep you engaged with it. The game is almost designed to catapult you to near-endgame as quickly as possible, with everything added on top of that basically acting as prestige gimmicks. Enchanting is a ridiculous grindfest if you do it meta-properly and not very interesting if you do it as intended.
You make one wood pickaxe to make one stone pickaxe to get iron and then you’ve effectively skipped 3/4ths of the gear tiers like that. Copper is pointless because it’s no harder to get than iron. Basic enchantments on diamond makes netherrite irrelevant.
This is why you should play Vintage Story, because it’s actually got good progression systems and engaging mechanics with real depth to them.
For me it is Bioshock Infinite, it has an amazing beginning and it doesn't deliver afterwards on gameplay or writing, you complete it out of Stockholm syndrome
Every gacha game by nature follows this pattern to suck you in. Hearthstone got me, their rewards structure is so much for your first few wins and so little for everything beyond that
Ghost of Tsushima, first one at least. Decent story, well voice acted, gorgeous game, fun combat, and a massive open world filled with checklist garbage, trailing missions, and generic enemy camps.
Got to the second part of the island, realized I had another dozen hours minimum to slog through, and just closed the game and never opened it again.
Guntavarion_warlord@reddit
This is very controversial but I think Minecraft is in no doubt a victim of corporate greed someone is going to call me "Nostalgia blind" or something but the truth is Microsoft doesn't give 2 flying craps about the game. I don't know why people keep pretending like the game doesn't suffer from this with the microtransactions, and the chat age verification in the UK and using AI for their promo art for their theme park. Not to mention the recent updates have barely anything to do in them they are very minimal and more kid friendly looking. If people keep denying this and just dismiss it as "Nostalgia" simply for critiquing the modern game I wonder how upset they would be if they suddenly put microtransactions in java edition.
ktsb@reddit
halo franchise before and after bungie left
Guntavarion_warlord@reddit
I would have to say minecraft also has the same issue the game is in no doubt of my mind a victim of corporate greed people need to realize Microsoft doesn't give 2 craps about Minecraft they just want to squeeze as much money out of the game as they can. I'm sure someone is going to say that I'm Nostalgia blind or something, but why do we keep pretending like microsoft didn't screw over the game with low effort updates and micro transactions that isn't "nostalgia blind" that's just acknowledging the flaws with modern Minecraft, but most people just brush it off.
hellzyeah2@reddit
That’s a steaming hot take fam. Halo 2 of 3 is some of the best media, ever.
srcactusman@reddit
Isn’t that what he said? Before (gems) and after (shit) bungie left
hellzyeah2@reddit
Halo 4, despite its flaws, is a masterclass in playing with your emotions. Where even when you do the right thing, the whole time, it still isn’t enough to save those he wanted to…
Gecko-002@reddit
Over 1k downvotes is diabolical lmao
hellzyeah2@reddit
I was at +8 before the hater-brigade showed up. Something’s, including people, can be deeply flawed. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t beauty to be found as well.
RegularlyClueless@reddit
Maybe it's nostalgia, as Halo 5 was a game I played a lot in my childhood (I played halo 4 a lot, but I have some memory issues so I struggle to remember it) but I loved the gameplay of Halo 5, having variants for every weapon and vehicle without having some weird customization system was a really cool thing to have
ImNotABotScoutsHonor@reddit
Dear fucking god.
RegularlyClueless@reddit
Late childhood, I would've been like around 9 when it came out
ImNotABotScoutsHonor@reddit
Late childhood is 18 in most medical and psychological circles, homeslice. Which is to say, adolescence is part of childhood.
I'll reiterate: dear fucking God
RegularlyClueless@reddit
I consider childhood and adolescencd to be separate but alr
ImNotABotScoutsHonor@reddit
Doesn't really matter what you consider what. I cited medical and mental professionals for a reason.
Feel free to become an expert in the field of human developmental stages and change the definitions and ranges if you'd like.
rook188@reddit
Halo 5 would have been an amazing game, even with a mid campaign. If the multiplayer wasn't a microtransaction hell. You paid to get better vehicles in the firefight/pvp mode. The customization was the best halo had but required you bought loot boxes to get most of the armor without grinding 10 hours a day. If it had reach's currency system n didnt make its biggest gamemode pay to win it would've stood out more. Unfortunately it was on that loot box hype train that plagued most games at the time
Mobius_1IUNPKF@reddit
“mid” campaign like it’s not the worst halo campaign of all time
GuneRlorius@reddit
Infinite still exists
Mobius_1IUNPKF@reddit
Infinite cannot come close to how bad H5 fucked the lore
RegularlyClueless@reddit
I liked it somewhat, maps were good and the mechanics of having multiple Spartans was cool, even if the story was mid
ktsb@reddit
and also even when u got cool weapons or vehicles to use you had to either think we are stomping right now why do i need to spawn something rare or we are lossing if i spawn something I'll get targeted and die. fire fight kinda fixed that but since ghost were op against enemy ai and everything else got insta melted you never spawned more than a req 4. the best you could hope for was getting something good off the random rolls.
tripsafe@reddit
Growing up on halo 2 and halo 3 multiplayer, every multiplayer afterwards felt like some awkward blend of halo and other FPS games that just never hit the same that halo 3 did. Halo 3 is the pinnacle of FPS multiplayer and I don’t think I’ll ever feel the same about another game again.
Doobalicious69@reddit
Reach multiplayer was good as well imo, but that was definitely where you can see the gameplay getting faster, and it didn't have the impact that Halo 3 had.
It had enough of that Halo 3 formula to hook me though.
LilXansStan@reddit
Honestly i prefer H2 and Reach over H3
Switching from Hitscan to Projectile without adding Bloom just made H3’s gunplay feel too floaty and disconnected for me
GerardWayIll@reddit
Yeah, there's a reason everyone uses the br in h3.
hellzyeah2@reddit
Warzone and Swat were some peak Halo in Halo 5. But the advanced movement craze of the time ruined all other game modes with its movement tech. Halo 5 campaign, we don’t talk about that 😅
Ubera90@reddit
This post was brought to you by 343.
hellzyeah2@reddit
Fuck 343
hellzyeah2@reddit
Yall just hating to hate at this point lol
bermass86@reddit
you comply misunderstood their point lmao
hellzyeah2@reddit
Then do enlighten me. Because we all dunk on 343i, now Halo Studios, within the Halo Community. Because they do have a noticeable drop in quality compared to the Bungie era.
bermass86@reddit
yeah, that's what they said, the start is good (until 3) and it sucks later
hellzyeah2@reddit
Imagine thinking Reach is a bad game from a gameplay or story standpoint. Only thing it fucked up was the overarching lore.
bermass86@reddit
oh my god bro reach is made by bungie, I just forgot it existed
hellzyeah2@reddit
Remember Reach
Triple96@reddit
Gr8 b8 m8
Bernard_PT@reddit
You didn't mention halo 4 in the first comment
hellzyeah2@reddit
God forbid a man drinks after work lol
b055dj@reddit
The Chief/Cortana dynamic being the ONLY selling point of Halo 4 isn't an endorsement of the game.
TectonicTechnomancer@reddit
Halo 4 is only a masterclass in Holo booty.
Dominator616@reddit
Based
Aimin4ya@reddit
Master cheeks
hellzyeah2@reddit
Also*
Skizordrone@reddit
I only liked 4 for the multiplayer. The zombies mode in it was so cool. The story was ass tho, let’s be real
Cosmonate@reddit
Lmao welcome to the world of Halo outside the Halo sub. Halo 4 sucks, and the only place you'll hear people praise it is the Halo sub because it's an echo chamber.
srcactusman@reddit
Looking at halo 4 Cortana’s tits makes it up for me tbh
hellzyeah2@reddit
Do you see me complaining about the current state of halo? I know it’s in an abysmal nowadays. Doesn’t mean I will let others dictate what I can and can’t enjoy.
Exurota@reddit
Halo 4: the silent protagonist's monologue: press button animation edition
Dirty_Dan117@reddit
They hated him because he spoke the truth
firehawk_hx@reddit
They hated him because he spoke straight doodoo ass
cnail@reddit
Halo 4 is nothing but flaws. Story, gameplay, visuals, everything's bad. Zero redeeming qualities. There is so much wrong, but I think the worst part for me was when the writers decided that humans actually aren't the forerunners, thus making the irony and tragedy of the human-covenant war null and meaningless. And playing with your emotions? Changing cortana's entire character just for some eye-rolling melodrama is a masterclass in playing with your emotions?
hellzyeah2@reddit
Tell me yall haven’t read the book series without telling me
DjAlex420@reddit
I have and enjoy the book. But halo 4 sucks
hellzyeah2@reddit
The book? You do know there is like 30 books right? And the first three released were a trilogy.
DjAlex420@reddit
Typo, meant to type books. But I've read/listened to all of them up to fractures. After that I lost interest because well 343 halo sucks to be honest and 40k rabbit hole sucked me in. I still keep up with some of the lore out of nostalgia through a few youtubers, but when the books from your videogame franchise are more fun than the games I'm out.
somemeatball@reddit
I prefer it when my games don’t have a separate novel of required reading attached
Wiggie49@reddit
My biggest gripe with 4 was the change in visual design, it was so god awful it immediately pulled me out of the game.
hellzyeah2@reddit
Oh yeah that is the biggest flaw. His armor being changed by “nanites while in cryo” is bullshit
mck1129@reddit
yeah pig, enjoy your corpo slop
sorryiamnotoriginal@reddit
It’s a master class in playing with my emotions because I still expected the games to be good after reach and they weren’t. They couldn’t even successfully start a new trilogy we got 3 games that feel like game 1 of a new trilogy and now they are doing nostalgia remakes for easy wins.
JacksGallbladder@reddit
Halo 4 is a master class in legitimately trying to re-paint the Mona Lisa lol.
saketho@reddit
I bought the game to shoot alien bad guys, dafuq am I supposed to do with a story
Nazboi6442@reddit
The only solid Halo was CE. 2 was inconsistent as shit.
Mental_Jeweler_3191@reddit
Reach is even better, I think.
hellzyeah2@reddit
As a book nerd. I have a bone to pick about Reach. Reach as a standalone game, 10/10. Masterpiece. But I completely fucked the established lore on Bungie way out. I think it’s far more terrifying that Reach fell in 24 hours, instead of some arbitrary ground war to find relics that dragged on for months. Humanity didn’t win 99.9% of its battles with the covenant, it merely survived. Reach was no different
Mental_Jeweler_3191@reddit
Yeah, I don't know anything about the books.
Played the hell out of that campaign, though.
hellzyeah2@reddit
Just remember. Humanity didn’t defeat the covenant. They defeated themselves right before we were snuffed out.
Sesemebun@reddit
You misread his comment. Because the image has diamonds before shit, he had to put the line where the diamonds end and the poop starts. So hes saying that halo was good under bungie and not after
hellzyeah2@reddit
Then I followed up with why halo 4 is great further below
Mobius_1IUNPKF@reddit
It’s not comparable to the HCW Trilogy
Tonberry_Cheesecake@reddit
But it isn't great.
ktsb@reddit
dude ty idk why some said it's bait. i thought i was going crazy and misunderstood the meme. like I'm not being ironic halo under bungie aka up to reach gold. then 343 takes a shit over the franchise
Clyde-MacTavish@reddit
I think you completely misunderstoor them.
Diamonds (before) Shit (After Bungie left)
LarryCrabCake@reddit
See even you excluded 1. Library is a pain in the ass.
bitnode@reddit
Halo 3 was meh
hellzyeah2@reddit
Go look at my latest post go look at the last post I made
AHighAchievingAutist@reddit
No
hellzyeah2@reddit
I’ll just enlighten you then lazy bones. I have a Halo Tattoo. Halo is and its lore are peak fam. Shame you can’t see it. Might I recommend an optometrist?
TheScoopster@reddit
Hey man I clicked your profile to check it out and read that your next tattoo was going to be one of your late lover, cool! But isn’t the person you listed a fictional character from anime? What’s that all about
hellzyeah2@reddit
I got the halo tattoo as a test, to make sure I dont fuck up the one I get after. I went to a local tattoo convention to shop around for the right artist. Then I’ve been broke for a while as I dealt with my grief in different ways. And now I’m just broke from the system keeping me down atm. I ain’t letting to keep me down, and I still plan on getting that tattoo for her. I appreciate you reading that long ass letter though.
TheScoopster@reddit
Oh no im talking about the comment on your tattoo post, something about akagi from azur lane? thats a fictional character from anime no? Is the love letter to “her” as well? I’m confused!
hellzyeah2@reddit
I got the halo tattoo well over a year ago. So I didn’t know I talked about that in the comments. I thought you were referring to the post I made under it. To help alleviate your confusion, I lost the closest person I’ve ever known 2 years ago. The kind of unique individual you open your entire soul to. It wrecked me. Akagi is the nickname I gave her, based on the character from the mobile game Azur lane we both played at the time. Their personalities were extremely similar, so it was fitting.
TheScoopster@reddit
Ah okay that clears it up. Sorry to hear that happened to you. All the best!
hellzyeah2@reddit
Appreciate it fam 🤙🏻
AHighAchievingAutist@reddit
Ok I checked your post, it’s a cool tattoo for sure but I’m pretty disappointed you didn’t get it on your butthole
hellzyeah2@reddit
Fair enough. Have a nice day.
AHighAchievingAutist@reddit
You too baby
GandalfTheGay_69@reddit
Halo fans are the one piece fans of the gaming world
hellzyeah2@reddit
At least I don’t have to wait 10 minutes for someone to walk down a hallway with a jump cut every two seconds and a flashback as to why they are in the hallway for the other half the episode.
Gamepass90@reddit
It got truly amazing after that in terms of storytelling especially
IdioticZacc@reddit
Infinite is has my favourite campaign, the development of Master Chief was amazing, and the gameplay made me feel the closest to lore accurate Master Chief flying around with the grappling hook, pulling items towards me and throwing explosive barrels
Such a shame I make up the few that sees it this way
ktsb@reddit
the development of Master Chief 🤮
Suban33@reddit
My eyes ain't so good, that mining pick looks mighty like a gold club.
TheCommissarGeneral@reddit
oh fuck dude
Shill4Pineapple@reddit
Holy fucking rage bait lmao. You got me good. More power to you if you genuinely believe that.
Simpsanit@reddit
So... the whole time?
Final_Campaign2617@reddit
ye
JuiceManOJ@reddit
Interloper4Life@reddit
Half-life 1 - the Xen level is a bit off....
GordonLettuce@reddit
Alien Isolation, games sweet till 5 fake endings
Blasteth@reddit
game's sweet but is double the lenght it needed to be. really hope they change the lenght issue with the new game.
ReturnRadio@reddit
Too long? Steak too juicy too?
Absolutemehguy@reddit
You'll get it when you're employed, champ.
Bakonn@reddit
If you play it you will know, at that point you just stop caring about enemis or any horror aspect of it, and just rush the story.
It goes on way to long with nothing new being added and good part of the quest are go here press x or collect y.
ReturnRadio@reddit
I have played it. I loved every second and was pleasantly surprised each time the game kept going.
OptimalApelikebeing@reddit
once i got the shotgun and the flamethrower, it stopped being a horror game and started being a space marine game
BiSaxual@reddit
I’ve still never finished the game. I’ve started it over a couple times, played at different difficulties and tried different styles of play, but every time I get to the same spot and then stop. It just goes on and on and on.
It’s a great game, but you can tell it was Creative Assembly’s first time making a game like that. Hell of a first attempt, though. I remember thinking there was no way the strategy game churner studio was gonna make a good Alien game lol
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
> Waiter! Waiter!!! help, it takes me too long to orgasm. My steak is too juicy
clown
PotemkinSuplex@reddit
The dynamics change a lot with the flamethrower, androids are annoying and at that point you aren’t really thrilled with the station itself. The game really falls hard during the final hours.
Aurora428@reddit
People who just divide playtime by the game price to determine how "good for the value" it is are ruining gaming
Yes length matters to a certain point, but there will be variance from game and genre.
Cauchemar89@reddit
That proper allegory would be "1 kilo steak too much for you?"
And yes, 1 kilo of steak stops being enjoyable around half-way in.
SleepyDG@reddit
This is the reason AAA slop taken a hundred hours to complete now btw
brutalblakakke@reddit
As a massive fan of the game, yes it's too long. Sometimes less is more.
daberle123@reddit
I had a fucking blast with southpark fractured but-whole, but there too i think it just went on for too long. They couldve cut out the entire laboratory section and the game would be fine if you ask me.
emiller7@reddit
I wish it was quadruple the length so I got to play more of it
Bread_bread_bready@reddit
Spore (i fucking hate space stage)
ASTG_99@reddit
Yeah the space stage sounds amazing on paper but in practice it's just sooo repetetive and the amount of content with little to no innovation gets tedious very quickly
Mmaximuskeksimus@reddit
You went from RTS controlling an entire country back to running around as a single unit. It's genuenly the most jarring downgrade in a games pacing in history
StarSpliter@reddit
Damn I didn't even realize that as a kid. That is wild but I guess the didnt have the time, money, or creative energy to make a space rts.
NoxiousVaporwave@reddit
When I get to space stage I just boot up sins of a solar empire.
AccessTheMainframe@reddit
Stellaris is what 10 year old me dreamed the Space Stage could be
Riskypride@reddit
I always thought something similar to halo wars would’ve been a good ending for spore
hhhnnnnnggggggg@reddit
EA forced them to release before it was ready
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
a single unit that manages your whole "empire". decontextualizing things is truly a feature of our time, eh?
Mmaximuskeksimus@reddit
Ah yes, because a multi planetary empirr is incapable of making a second fuckin ship. Or doesn't have other captains
Reddit_Throwaway_899@reddit
Space stage should have been what Stellaris is. Or closer to it.
bdrwr@reddit
Piss off the Grox, and suddenly it turns into whack-a-mole, and you can't even do the space exploration anymore because one of your planets gets attacked every 5 minutes
nenad8@reddit
Play The UrQuan Masters (Star Control 2). I'm pretty sure Spore tried to rip it off and failed miserably. But you can still play UQM and experience the space stage at its best.
hellzyeah2@reddit
Mastering terraforming was fun
RaidriConchobair@reddit
I mean you just put stuff in the middle and stock every planet with the same plants and animals you picked up animals and plants last,it wasnt that hard, at least in my memory
winged_owl@reddit
Dont forget the part where your progress keeps getting erased by some other empire coming along. Every couple years or two.
LarryCrabCake@reddit
You spend the entire game looking forward to the space stage
Once you're there, there's nothing else to look forward to
QueenSylvy@reddit
Normalize never playing space stage and ending in civ or tribal
GEDDUH@reddit
I usually never left creature stage as that was the most interesting to me personally. Oh, and I spent an immeasurable amount of tice just making creatures, buildings and spaceships, i even used and tried a shit ton of mods specifically for creation.
Now that I think about it, I pretty much used SPORE as blender for kids, lmao.
QueenSylvy@reddit
Thats also my favorite way to play, spending waaay too long customizing everything to my hearts content
maxtinion_lord@reddit
I think if the game ended at tribal I would not like it nearly as much as I do lol, it's an ok stage but too frustrating, civ stage made the RTS experience a lot cooler and has a better ending
TheKingOcelot@reddit
Honestly the cell stage is my favorite by alot
SexDefendersUnited@reddit
booo
sharplyon@reddit
i always hear this but i actually enjoy the space stage a lot. something about going around blowing up planets, finding purple or pink spice planets to terraform and colonise, and making bank off of it to my allies is kinda fun and relaxing
beefycheesyglory@reddit
I poured an unhealthy amount of hours into Spore when I was a kid and like 90% of that time spent was in Space Stage. I loved it, the music and vibe was super chill. I wish they would make sequel (maybe one day)
Khafaniking@reddit
It’s funny you say that cause that was always my favorite. I liked being able to explore other worlds, encountering other nations, space combat, nuking titans I’d come across, and I really liked the tedium of the spice trade. If I revisited it today I’d probably think it’s boring or doesn’t hold up anymore, but when I was a kid/pre-teen I spent hours playing space stage.
Burritozi11a@reddit
How it feels to be a Space stage enjoyer
driku12@reddit
Also funnily enough can apply to the actual development of Spore. The demos showed at cons were amazing. The hype was so real. The evolution was originally supposed to be more realistic, underwater civilizations were a thing, the space stage was going to be this hard sci fi galactic adventure, and they had all this programmed and ready. They were showing it off. But EA thought it was too high concept and forced the team to dumb the game down at the last second and remove a bunch of content to focus mostly on the creature creator. Seeing it on launch was profoundly disappointing, but the fact it's still fun even after that just shows how good the original would have been.
That original version of Spore is still lost, only videos of it remain. EA snubbing him caused the creator (who also created the Sims) to leave and stop developing games, as far as I know. It was really sad.
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
nigh everyone does (except me, but I get why everyone hates it)
landartheconqueror@reddit
I loved space stage for the first few hours until it just becomes a slog dealing with space pirates. But it's civilization age that I hated.
Cyka-Blast@reddit
is there any modern game that reuses the evolution mechanic and fixes that space age issue? or even mods that add more content. I'm always craving for spore but I want new stuff lol
Serious-Breakfast908@reddit
Bruuuh 😭😭😭 It was the most fun stage for spore. That stage is the one I've dedicated the most hours to, just building ridiculously large empires so that other runs could ally with each other and trade, it was peak.
Stormjoy07@reddit
They say as soon as you get to space stage, close the game, open Stellaris, and design an empire similar to your Spore Empire.
DepravedDreg@reddit
Yeah. I did okay in Spore until the space section of the game. I unlocked the nuke ability and I accidentally nuked multiple planets due to misunderstanding missions that allies gave me. I'd think they wanted me to kill all of a certain species on one planet and assume it was the planet right next to them and then BAM, have their population is wiped out. It happened multiple times and got really awkward.
gsidifkskfnf@reddit
Single cell stage was boring also
TheChannelMiner@reddit
Playing it for a short while is fine for a bit but yes I agree it gets boring fast.
hellzyeah2@reddit
These top comments are really after some of my favorite franchises huh.
Doobalicious69@reddit
I love spore as well but it was a steaming, messy pile.
Still wicked fun though.
Tokipudi@reddit
That's because you don't play as a pacifist.
manny011604@reddit
Resident evil 8 the factory area
OwnHousing9851@reddit
Any idle game ever
Rip_Off_Your_Toenail@reddit
Perhaps counter-intuitively, the best idle games actually have a concrete ending (Universal Paperclips, for example)
StuntHacks@reddit
There's some gems that are purely the first part. But it's increasingly rare, especially with the advent of vibe foding
undeadansextor@reddit
Give me the gems
userbrn1@reddit
The following have zero microtransactions, so the game is actually designed around being fun
Magic Research 1 and 2 (mostly idle but there are some active components)
Melvor idle (based on runescape; also have some active components)
Cookie clicker (although I haven't played in a while, might have been enshittified?)
Ngu idle (probably the most elaborate and greatest idler ever made imo)
Trimps (I don't like it personally but it has a very long term and dedicated fan base)
StuntHacks@reddit
I don't think it's fair to say any game that has any sort of micro transactions will inevitably be designed to be less fun without them. I've played several that said MTX were completely optional, and didn't lie about it. AD and USI come to mind.
userbrn1@reddit
what are those abbreviations for?
pitline810@reddit
Cookie clicker
StuntHacks@reddit
Unnamed Space Idle, undisputed king
If you're down for some more raw numbers, Antimatter Dimensions
If you're into RuneScape, Melvor Idle
Evolve Idle and CIFI also supposed to be very good but I haven't played either
Honorable mentions to Crank and Orb of Creation, those aren't really Idle but still amazing incremental games
CaseroRubical@reddit
vibe foding
StuntHacks@reddit
Fuck
pwillia7@reddit
you're foding my vibes
PotatoCase@reddit
Except for trimps, Possibly the best idle out there, Dont look stuff up, just play, and you'll see
LordHonchkrow@reddit
oh boy, time to shill for my favorite idle game, FE000000! its def one that i think is more appealing as a math nerd, but theres two things that it has going for it that stave off that problem: - every tier of meta scaling is new, different, and increasingly unhinged - the game has a well defined end point, at which point it stops amd youre done. (it still takes over a month to hit it if you know what youre doing so its not super short either)
PotatoCase@reddit
This sounds like you'd live this little game called trimps
BainCantCook@reddit
i hate any rebirth-similar mechanic so much
JannyBroomer@reddit
"we could only think of 5 things, so prestige and do those 5 things again, slightly faster!"
heywix@reddit
Revolution idle is the only game I've seen not do this
OwnHousing9851@reddit
revolution idle's whole thing is prestiging, as someone who got all 520 achievements
TalaHusky@reddit
Explain?
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
they're literally games that mostly.play themselves. which is exactly how you should play them to fully enjoy them. you're not supposed to play them as your main game, rsther as something running in the backvround that tickles your dopamine-receptors via "numbers go up, now even uppier!".
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
someone didn't play many idle games and it shows
616659@reddit
Yeah, the first 1\~2 hours there's endless upgrades you can take, and insanely fun to progress. and then soon after u have to afk for 2 days straight to get 1 upgrade that will improve your stats for like 0.1%.
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
Ou've definitely played some weird idle games if this is how you've progressed after 2 days
ANGLVD3TH@reddit
This is part of why Tower Wizard is pretty much the only one I like. It is just about 1-2 hours, beginning to end. Never overstays its welcome.
Caelestas@reddit
The best idle games i've played are the ones that take years to finish x)
WhatTheFlox@reddit
Causal Necromerger would like a word.
Siri2611@reddit
You know what would be fun? Making the player reset the whole game for a minor buff - idle devs
big-yugi@reddit
I didn’t come here to get called out like this, I get insane satisfaction from seeing the numbers get REAL big
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
and especially from numbers getting REAL big EVEN FASTER after each reset
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
>minor buff
> biff that literally speeds up your progress by up to 100000000000000%
HappyToaster1911@reddit
Nah, there are some that aren't like that, Ultrakill just gets better per examplr
ChoiceFudge3662@reddit
Bro misread a word
Is-Fish-A-Fruit@reddit
Did you read indie?
Slight-Bedroom-8655@reddit
All in his mind?
VladutzTheGreat@reddit
I too read it as indie first and was confused lol
kraftian@reddit
My favorite idle game ultrakill
JackDoesThingz@reddit
Genuinely yes
THEPIGWHODIDIT@reddit
Minesweeper
mydadwhereishe@reddit
It always coming down to a 50/50 is such shit
SagaSolejma@reddit
Tbh if it ALWAYS ends on a 50/50 then thats a skill issue
adjectiveant@reddit
What are you on about dawg a large board with zero guesswork required is a statistical anomaly
SagaSolejma@reddit
Then how come that's like 80% of the large board games i play.
adjectiveant@reddit
Either you’re making guesses without realizing or you’re playing a version of minesweeper with a smarter generation algorithm that minimizes guessing
AshThePoutine@reddit
Play no-guess minesweeper problem solved
Rubes2525@reddit
I remember one quote from Nerdcubed that describes it well. "It's a puzzle game that you can lose. It's a puzzle game that sometimes gives up on the pretense of being a puzzle game and goes 'fucking GUESS, guess you bitch!'"
DenkJu@reddit
That's why I only play Minesweeper implementations that do not require guessing.
BiSaxual@reddit
Oh man, I haven’t thought about NerdCubed in years. That dude was one of my favorites when I was in high school.
tipppsfedora@reddit
No way man I love minesweeper
gwapogi5@reddit
Genshin and other similar games. The story just keeps on repeating with few added flavors and new characters. Enter new area Meet the new rare gacha characters Kill some boss Repeat
YoungDiscord@reddit
Any gacha game
Because they're gambling disguised as a game.
They hook you with initial extra pulls, once you are addicted, they open the floodgates to the shitshow.
BlackestFlame@reddit
You get a lot of videogame now
aghastmonkey190@reddit
The issue with that is that they end up introducing gimmicky enemies that require certain characters, or characters that require certain other characters to be viable in endgame (so at their full potential) so you can get more pulls to repeat the cycle. Genshins suddenly doing this with Natlan and nod krai (new content) and it's caused me to stop playing it entirely because I spend like 3 minutes fighting an enemy others can blitz in 10 seconds because they have the new shiny character that does peepeepoopoo damage, whereas my character only does normal damage
Urmomsfavouritelol@reddit
Genshin does suck if you play endgame, especially SO on anything higher than hard mode. But because I'm a complete idiot, I only just put together a proper team and can 27 abyss, no 36 because again, I'm an idiot
GoogIe_Slides@reddit
I'm curious what your AR is, also what characters you enjoy playing, I didn't pull most characters from nodkri and still 36 star abyss with Navia, Chiori, Xilonen, and Furina as my best team
nobodyimportant1377@reddit
Hot take: I absolutely love gacha games, but only as a F2P player, and I have never spent a cent on a video game past the initial download price. Any collecting-type mechanic makes me go crazy and I love a sense of difficulty to pour some time into, especially with chance-based gimmicks, but the hype of it immediately dissipates upon investing real currency... I think it's more to do with the sense of achievement and overcoming the odds, for me.
Mafagafinhu@reddit
Hey as a fellow gacha f2p enjoyer(kinda) I have to recommend warframe, it has a ton of characters(frames) to get and all of them are related to some kinda of chance based gimmick, but I feel its more fair because you can trade with others players just by farming characters pieces
nobodyimportant1377@reddit
That sounds excellent! Take up a lot of storage space, though? The main thing stopping me from downloading a bunch more gacha games is honestly my subpar availability of space on devices...
Mafagafinhu@reddit
Well zzz is like 60gb on my pc, and warframe is 50gb, but yeah they do take a lot of space, there is Warframe for cellphone too, but I didn't play on it so I can't recommend
Sublethall@reddit
So you could say it's about sense of pride and accomplishment
nobodyimportant1377@reddit
Yes! So satisfying when I'm upset to log on and see what I've gained over the years, much more than a majority of other players despite never having spent money on it... Makes me feel like even this small thing proves that I **am** capable of effort and dedication, even in my darkest moments...
Reymma@reddit
I have a similar mindset, but I'm willing to pay a few pounds a month for a game I'm enjoying. To me making the most of that small budget is part of the challenge and I like planning around it.
nobodyimportant1377@reddit
Actually, I really like that too! If spending money on a game makes you happy and allows you to think about it and responsibly consider the implications of that, then I'd argue it's even a net positive for you- It's super important to emphasise your wellbeing and happiness, after all, and spending money on that sort of thing to a reasonable extent allows you to develop your self-control and critical thinking skills while promoting healthy self-care and enjoyment! An excellent idea!
nyaasgem@reddit
I only ever bought like 1 skin (20 smth euros) in Nikke, mostly because it gave me so many good moments in the last 3 years, I considered it a compensation as if I bought the game.
It also gave me 10 pulls so there's that.
Even with a single purchase, I was still able to collect every single character (150+), with several copies of duplicates for most of them, and other than pvp I can comfortably engage in endgame content.
If your mind is so weak that you give in to gambling it's literally on you. If you feel that the game requires you to pay in order to be enjoyable, just fucking leave it. There are dozens of other ones. Or play a normal game.
minimeza@reddit
I feel like limbus company is the exception, you can just buy the characters you want with the ingame currency without having to gamble. Im free to play and i have 100 - 200 hours and im up to the latest stsge in the story. There are also events which have a free character and you can get a bunch of resources just by playing the game how you normally would. It feels kinda like darkest dungeon. The gambling system genuinly feels pretty bait anyway.
Ozuge@reddit
What baffles me are all the F2P players. Why play the gambling game without gambling. Like imagine going to a casino just to drink tap water and listen to the machines make ungodly noise.
KazakiriKaoru@reddit
Because a lot of them now have actual stories in them
nobodyimportant1377@reddit
God forbid I have better things to spend my money on, and just genuinely enjoy the sense of achievement and gameplay mechanics. I heavily enjoy gacha games because I'm a hardcore completionist and the inherent idea of something being hard to obtain and ruled by chance is appealing to me. I like having something to grind out and pour my time into in the same way I love pokemon shiny hunting, and it feels great to know that what you have is from your own skill or dedication to something that you enjoy. The second I invest even a cent into a game, the thrill instantly vanishes.
Ozuge@reddit
Yeah but there's like, actually good games to grind on that aren't gambling.
YoungDiscord@reddit
...that's where the disguised as a videogame part comes in.
If its clear gambling - only people who want to gamble pick it up
If its a "videogame" then its going to also attract people who just want to pick up a casual videogame to play and suck them into gambling.
Its duplicitous and dishonest at best.
TectonicTechnomancer@reddit
it depends, some gachas arent pay to win, so you can log a 20 min session to do the dailies, collect your rewards and move to another game, not every game has to be an all nighter.
residenthomophobe@reddit
Dark souls 1
Morbius-Lover@reddit
fallout 4 on god hear me out
momen535@reddit
Fallout 4. I have hundreds of hours on it, but i finished the main quest line once, and in general the game gets stall in ate game and restart with a different build.
0xE4-0x20-0xE6@reddit
The stealth archer build in Skyrim
Affectionate-Cod4152@reddit
ngl Skyrim combat in general gets boring real quick.
Eaterofjazzguitars@reddit
Yeah when swinging my sword through thin vs hitting a mammoth in the bum feels the same, there's a problem.
MonsutaReipu@reddit
stealth archer is the only build that doesn't completely fucking suck. but the problem is that it's pretty basic and never changes from beginning to end in any way at all.
Riskypride@reddit
No build sucks in Skyrim when you are able to enchant your gear
outland_king@reddit
One hand with restoration in the other hand is easy mode.
Literally cant die unless youre a complete moron.
RambunctiousGhost@reddit
Idk man. The two handed mace head-bash killmove always gives me a chuckle. It's so excessive. In fact, two handed mace in general is a pretty great time. It does shine extra bright with mods, though, like every other part of Skyrim.
CTizzle-@reddit
Same with unarmed suplexing everyone, or the one where you piledrive them.
Also shout out to the two handed battleaxe finisher where you just shake them back and forth, that one makes me laugh every time.
blacktiger226@reddit
I always play One Handed+Destruction+Enchanting and it is always a ton of fun.
Not abusing any potions or enchanting shenanigans. Just level up destruction and enchanting to make a super magic sword and wack people with it. It they are far, you shoot them with fire balls.
ChoiceFudge3662@reddit
I use spellsword until I can enchant my armor with -100% destruction spell cost then I just run around toasting everything, it’s very nice.
cynicalPsionic@reddit
Yeah I always found that going heavy into archery eventually left you feeling bored, destruction magic and one handed means you got range and melee and a fun special effects budget while you're at it
Ensvey@reddit
I found my people. In general, skyrim magic was so mid, but this playstyle still felt more engaging than stealth archer.
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
Switch Destruction for Restoration and add in shield.
Restoration perks give you infinite stamina pretty quick and infinite stamina shield bash is a nice combo. You have no good ranged options but with infinite stamina you can just sprint over to them
joethecrow23@reddit
One handed is the best because the vast majority of cool specialty weapons are one handed.
plzdont-@reddit
this is exactly what i do, lolol. nice
Trespeon@reddit
I have never once ran stealth archer through all my playthrough and combat was plenty fine. I also don’t play with mods so I’m sure people that do have a completely different standard as they already modified the game to fit exactly what they want anyways.
ClockworkSalmon@reddit
If you mix it with some magic it gets fun
You start as a normal stealth archer, start learning conjuration or illusion, at first you can summon some weak minions or make enemies fight eachother while you pick at them from range, then later you can summon a magic bow, turn invisible etc.
With mods its even better.
Notorik@reddit
Mage builds are quite fun when you play on higher difficulty and have to actually think about spells you use and not just nuke every room with fireballs.
cmdr_scotty@reddit
I just keep ramping the difficulty until it's a challenge.
Once that maxed out, start seeking combat mods to make things interesting.
(BFCO and SCAR are really good ones for melee combat overhauls. Archery Gameplay Overhaul for ranged combat)
landartheconqueror@reddit
Man I hate Skyrim combat
Trioshot@reddit
play the constellations mod pack, it only takes 2100 mods to make the game actually feel like an RPG that has life in it and dangerous enemies.
bruhred@reddit
it feels better in the vr version though i guess
Magenta30@reddit
At least stealth and Illusion builds have something you could call gameplay. For melee and destruction magic its just holding down one Button with zero feedback if the Action actually hit.
Discord84@reddit
At least with melee, you can mix it up with some enchanted weapons and shield bashing. Pure magic in Skyrim is the worst of any ES game, since you can't make your own spells, so you're stuck spamming the same one over and over.
tearans@reddit
Having spell bar mod like WoW helps a ton with on the go spell changing without favorites menu break.
But good lord it has way too many requirements and dependencies
AMadHammer@reddit
What is the most fun skyrim build
durfenstein@reddit
Hmm care to elaborate?
tearans@reddit
Positive feedback loop that takes all fun from the game. No risk, no change
For short time it is fun to feel as omnipotent power from shadows. 1000th kill in exactly same way is boring
The_Meemeli@reddit
At least the arrows feel like they're hitting the enemy, unlike the melee attacks
pwillia7@reddit
ha we had to play Morrowind bro
Kel4597@reddit
Creation content is on console now, isn’t it? Solutions to the magic problem exist.
durfenstein@reddit
Ah thanks for that. I was asking because my wife will maybe start Skyrim someday soon, and honestly, once she realizes this is a way to play, she will love it 😃 Thats not a negative for her, there are more diamonds behind the diamonds
Wiitard@reddit
Yeah it’s actually crazy when you look at the game and start to see that it is almost perfectly designed to encourage the stealth archer gameplay, and almost all playthroughs even when you intentionally try to avoid stealth archer you can get sucked into it very easily.
tearans@reddit
But beeing aware of the stealth archer blackhole makes you kinda semi-immune, because you recognize the moment you are falling in.
Its like with addictive mobile inapp purchaces, knowing lets go whalin makes it easy to see the pattern and avoid or not fall in
AstroBearGaming@reddit
....and yet every time I replay the game.
"I'm going to go full magic this time"
20 hours later and I have a bow, a dagger, and muffle.
skoomable@reddit
Advice for any new skyrim runs, if you’re going to do an assassin sneaky character build, ditch the bow entirely and force yourself to only go for melee in stealth. Genuinely really fun
GangesGuzzler69@reddit
Can you elaborate? How does it get bad in the last half
DopamineDarling121@reddit
just gets boring
ansibleloop@reddit
You 1 shot everything even with weak gear
Orikshekor@reddit
Yes but the melee combat is terrible and the magic doesn’t scale
beantheduck@reddit
Damn that’s what I was planning on doing the next time I pop into Skyrim.
brkvc-@reddit
S.T.A.L.K.E.R GAMMA
DawnVonDon@reddit
I’m guessing post Brain Scorcher? Is the “drop off” that bad, is because there is nothing left to strive for, other than story?
brkvc-@reddit
Yeah, you hit the nail on the head
SmexyDeviljho@reddit
Metaphor Refantazio.
Arstanishe@reddit
mass effect 3.
yeah, i am still sore on the rgb ending and marauder shields
Samuelo_Conloco@reddit
They really need to remake the games completly, updating the game so that the gameplay actually enhances the amazing story and world that it is trying to convey, rather than bismerching it with dog gameplay (the games are old so I understand that the gameplay is dated, and people can play them with rose tinted glasses).
Then they can finish the story completely without the rushed rgb ending.
Arstanishe@reddit
Yeah. I wish in the start we could choose - either escape with Cerberus for "renegare" playthrough, or go with Alliance with "paragon" one. Also all of those decisions in games before? They should count! What did they do to rachni queen....
The cruicible is a stupid mcguffin. Should be removed or re-worked completely. And the ending too, should be different altogether. No ghosty-boys and RGB endings
Ozuge@reddit
The Crucible is a McGuffin, but that's honestly not only the ME3 teams fault. The previous games did basically nothing to set up a weapon against the Reapers. Any solution would have felt like a McGuffin. That said there are aspects to the Crucible that I like, such as it being this collective effort by all the cycles.
RambunctiousGhost@reddit
Yeah, that's never going to happen. Bioware is barely holding on as it is. No way big daddy EA would allow a risky project like that. I don't necessarily disagree with you, though. Mass Effect is one of my favorite game series of all time. A chance to get a proper ending to it would be amazing.
cmdr_scotty@reddit
I put off finishing me3 for the longest time, until my bro in law challenged me to finish it in something like two days and he'd buy doom eternal + any DLCs that came out.
I had me3 cleared in about a day + good ending too
Ozuge@reddit
Being real for a moment, I don't see a way to fix the rgb ending beyond just making it an r ending, if you get my meaning. The Crucible just destroys the Reapers and how much else gets destroyed along the way is based on how many good boy war points you got. I don't see this being liked by fans either though since we're taking away last minute choices and people love clicking dialogue buttons.
Darkaim9110@reddit
There shouldnt be a choice at the end of the game, the last 10% of the trilogy should be locked in and be completely driven by everything you have done up to that point
Arstanishe@reddit
True. Green makes 0 sense, it's just blatant space magic. Maybe blue can be left as a "bad" ending, since it also makes no sense to "control" the reapers. Isn't it just normal indoctrination logic?
Ozuge@reddit
Yeah. Green always weirded me out. Blue is a nice [bad end] if you rewrite it as Shephard ending up indoctrinated, just like the Illusive Man was. Then you can also have the reject the choice ending where the galaxy fights on and maybe the next cycle fixes it.
Steaky-Pancaky@reddit
Literally every mobile game mmo base builder. Hook you with free gems, very fast construction times, then slow it down and throw microtransactions at you every 20 minutes
GublenKat@reddit
darksouls 1
LuckyManMoogSolo@reddit
Pretty much all my DS1 replays end at Artorius or Seath, tomb of the giants and lost izalith are such a bore that I end up running DS2 or 3 instead
BoiSandwich@reddit
After you get the lordvessel its shit but there should be a tiny fiamond after the shit and thats Gwyn boss fight imo
Frozen_Watch@reddit
Dukes archives and the new londo ruins are pretty cool. But yeah ever DS run i basically quit after Anor Londo because lost izaleth and Tomb of Giants suck.
FiIth_@reddit
plin plin plon is iconic for a reason
BoiSandwich@reddit
Hell yeah
yoloswaggins92@reddit
Yeah that game ends with O&S. Everything after is so disappointing.
ChunkyBeed@reddit
After O&S I told my friends that the game is finished for me. I have seen a few runs and knew what was coming up and I said a hard no, not masochist enough.
malt2726@reddit
I was surprised I had to scroll this far to see ds1. I feel like it's very well know that the second part is basically unfinished.
am351@reddit
Skill issue
sbs_str_9091@reddit
ngl, I enjoyed it up to the point I didn't, all of a sudden. Said point was the catacombs.
Bawbalicious@reddit
Definitely this one, objectively so too.
wolverineczech@reddit
Helldivers 2
CottonEyeJoe_ZeroOne@reddit
I never came upon the diamonds. It was just mud
willfreder@reddit
Dark souls after anor londo
Yensil314@reddit
Mass Effect...
mrstorydude@reddit
modded minecraft
bloonshot@reddit
you playing some ass mods then homie
srcactusman@reddit
Most of the time they just fall short unless they are some autism industry mods.
Mashing up a ton of unrelated mods leads to not such a cohesive gaming experience most of the time, I really wish there was a mod like calamity but for minecraft
The_king_of-nowhere@reddit
I think you just need to avoid putting some really obnoxious mods. Like jutsu kaisen mods, because being able to flatten out a forest isn't really that fitting, and messes with the power balance completely.
Some world with my friends died pretty much immediately after people put a mod like that in the server. Like, it sounds cool on paper, but it just clashes too much with everything else.
srcactusman@reddit
I meant the popular mod packs that I see on YouTube and social media, I’ve tried many, but it’s always some bullshit with 10 different unbalanced and unrelated power systems and you always start with like 10 books and tons of different shit that just constantly reminds you that it isn’t one content mod, but rather a mashup of different mods.
Honestly if you know of a good mod pack with good exploration and adventure then tell me, terraria calamity left the bar pretty high for me in terms of content mods
alexathegibrakiller@reddit
Dont forget to mention the lovely "can't use the weapon because not enough level in xyz stat" and the weapon will be a basic ass iron sword.
Whats even worse is that it takes ages to level up anything, so you just quit the modpack 15 minutes in because you cant use any of the fun stuff you find.
srcactusman@reddit
That is genuinely so unfun I have no idea why so many mod makers add that
aegis_solus@reddit
I have decent knowledge of Java and I’m a decent 3d modeler, I’ve been considering doing this for a long while. Should I take the plunge l?
srcactusman@reddit
I always thought there’s probably a reason why no one has taken such a monumental task, just how physicist kill themselves after studying thermodynamics, but if you manage to enjoy the process of making that mod, you might just make Minecraft history
ThatOneGuyIn1939@reddit
these were the words i was looking for man. minecraft's a really fun game but unless you have a minecraft hyperfixation it gets boring once you max everything out
RewardWanted@reddit
StandardN02b@reddit
I started playin GTNH after 5 years of not touching minecraft and it's kicking my ass. I love it.
loryyess@reddit
Gregtech mentioned
kraftian@reddit
Genuinely agree about kitchen sink packs, but a curated pack with progression is peak video game
mang87@reddit
I love the Enigmatica Expert series. Every time a new one comes out, I spend like 400 hours completing it.
kraftian@reddit
For sure, there's even expert extended in 12.2 that adds even more shit.
It's to the point that playing modded Minecraft is my retirement goal when I get loads of free time lol
PoisonDart8@reddit
I wish expert packs existed in modern versions. I do still love 1.12.2, but I like a lot of the vanilla features and mod selection from the newer versions as well.
mang87@reddit
Holy crap I did not know there was an extended version of E2E! That's the best one! Well I guess I know what I'm doing this weekend.
Hau65@reddit
clearly unaware of the dab up mod
Happy_Ocelot_4945@reddit
Or the Wonderland mod
Careless-Position352@reddit
Fisk’s Superhero Mod remains on top 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Upstairs-Ad-4705@reddit
Imagine this gang, what if you actually play good mods??
Make a new world, get yourself create and create aeronautics and figure out everything yourself using the ponder feature. I did that and it was the most fun I ever had in a video game hands down.
megahornet@reddit
Playing the wrong modpacks
Naterthehater71@reddit
GT:NH has the worst early game of any modpack I've played.
Impressive-Smile-887@reddit
That’s because it’s supposed to be a grind, beginning to end. But that’s why you use that time during machine processes to deck out your base and explore other tech/magic mods inside
SaltyFlavors@reddit
Only performance enhancing, vanilla friendly mods (bigger tits and ass) are acceptable mods in video games.
AzulZzz@reddit
Life When you become an adult
OmriH7@reddit
I might’ve skipped the diamonds part
Transfiguredcosmos@reddit
My diamonds were taken.
ccstewy@reddit
just get an iron pickaxe and go get some
NeoTenico@reddit
Same, and I tried for so long to press carbon with my bare hands. Took a long tike to realize that just the act of digging and seeing cool new rocks, valuable or not, was pretty cool on its own.
Fmadude@reddit
They were promised to you 3000 years ago
sincopada@reddit
Hits so hard. I feel bad for us both
cerberus_1@reddit
I grew up in the 80s pure diamonds
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
mthe diamonds part is reserved for FYGUM-Edition-Preorders (rich parents)
ToobularBoobularJoy_@reddit
Lol fr honestly I've been finding way more diamonds since becoming an adult
OmriH7@reddit
I don’t think your fleshlight collection counts anon
Olden_bread@reddit
Diamond part is when you get paid
StandardN02b@reddit
Single parent home?
driku12@reddit
Yeah, it was just shit. At least now I've gotten used to the taste and have figured out some pretty nice ways to cook the shit to make it palateable. When you're a kid, you have no coping mechanisms yet and no freedom or autonomy to figure any out, so it's like you get full force diarrhea straight into your cerebral cortex courtesy of life itself.
I do sometimes both envy and pity the people who had diamond childhoods. On one hand it was probably a lot harder emotionally to go from diamonds to shit. On the other, at least you had some diamonds and I'm sure that gives you a level of hope and compassion someone who's been buried in shit the whole time may not have.
Idk where I'm going with this
Niasny@reddit
Yeah, i think my Mom pressed me directly into the shit tank
digidado@reddit
Yup
JuiceManOJ@reddit
Was there supposed to be one? I guess i missed out, too
cyberstealth999@reddit
slayerx1779@reddit
Some real talk for you youngins:
I was talking with my doctor, since this was my first physical after turning 30.
And it's really weird how often I hear from people who dislike how they spent their 20s, or insisted that 30 was when you really start being who you are, and start living your truth.
I've got a bunch of other small anecdotes, but they all tl;dr to say "It's true, what they say: life is truly what you make of it."
RelevantBee7856@reddit
Being an adult is the best shit ever.
SpasticCastle@reddit
Yeah, being given optionality and mobility fuckin rules, I’m stoked everyday that I’m not in my childhood bedroom watching king of the hill reruns and desperately waiting out the school week
I still watch king of the hill reruns but everything else has changed significantly for the better
jmorlin@reddit
Shit, some of us had a good childhood AND enjoy being an adult.
Also KotH kicks ass.
SpasticCastle@reddit
Mine wasn’t bad, reading this again makes it sound worse than it was. Being an adult is just better, is all. I think
Really I just didn’t like school haha
jmorlin@reddit
Fair enough. My experience was that both were/are good but for different reasons.
Merry_Dankmas@reddit
This depends very heavily on how you grew up. I'm on the flip side. I had plenty of freedom and my parents left me alone once I hit like 11 or 12 years old. So I was chilling and would love to go back and live like that again. High school was peak growing up for me since I had mobility and freedom of a teenager without the burden of expenses and a full time job. I find it interesting how different people answer a question like this.
spooner248@reddit
Yeah people like to bitch and moan but I’d take adult responsibilities in exchange for freedom 8 days a week. It’s so, so much better than being a kid and I didn’t have a bad childhood either.
Funneduck102@reddit
The shit should just take up the whole image
DasToyfel@reddit
Depends on how you live it and your environment. If you constantly get pampered by your parents, growing up privileged in a majority neighborhood.... And after you turn 20'ish you suddenly have to care for yourself, no one pays your expensive toys that you were used to and you have to wash your shitty underpants all by yourself.
Yes, then adult life might be shit.
But there are people who had a shitty childhood.and only after they finally got rid of their parents grip, they bloomed. Made a lot of friends, had a good time, finally making progress in something like a career.
Its all a matter of perspective and environment.
AmaterasuWolf21@reddit
In my 20s and still with parents!
driku12@reddit
Yeah, here here. It's not that life has gotten any easier since I've become an adult, I'd say it's been shit mode the whole time with very rare diamonds in-between the corn, but now I am free to wade where I like in the shit cavern. I'd rather face adversity than abuse.
PrettyOrk@reddit
ayeee i'm in the latter camp too. i still have my struggles but god damn it's good to be free (relatively)
Dry_Blueberry6806@reddit
You have your own money!
For now...
batiwa@reddit
Life when you suddenly gain conscience
TheTemporaryZiggy@reddit
My life is much better than its ever been, so can't relate
Sleazehound@reddit
Life when you become an adult + constant doompost this bullshit on reddit. Its what you make it dawg. Do better for yourself
AHighAchievingAutist@reddit
Huh. it’s the other way around for me, I couldn’t wait to get out of my childhood situation and enjoy a little fucking stability in my life
Okaoka_12@reddit (OP)
That's a given
ShottyBlastin101@reddit
League of legends fun at first but after awhile it's fucking shit.
Ok_Charity_707@reddit
League of Legends.
Started playing with friends and we had so much fun for months.
Lost friends in the process and end up up grinding ranked just to burn out and drop the game for good.
Bombalurina@reddit
Average LoL experience.
corgi_on_a_treadmill@reddit
It's like a drug. 9 games out 10 are shit. But that 1 great game of LoL is better than anything you've ever played. So you grind through the following shit games chasing after that pure hit of dopamine.
Ok_Charity_707@reddit
It is. And the worst part is that you stop enjoying wins at some point, it doesn't make you feel great anymore, it's more like a relief, because if you lose you'll get tilted and feel like absolute garbage.
Stephenrudolf@reddit
Ive found the best way to enjoy league is to play like 5 arams a year.
Yorkie321@reddit
Nooooo don’t remind me that every game is a slot machine simulator at heart
Shalltear1234@reddit
Just play fighting or RTS games where the reason you lose is because of you instead of teammates.
Jay_T_Demi@reddit
Now hold on a second- the problem absolutely is my fucking teammate on Halo Wars 2. I play with a friend in 3v3s. After like 10:30pm the only solo queue-ers playing the game don't even have a second base 10 minutes into the game. Sometimes they don't even build fucking units! Or they build units and then refuse to do anything with them.
JakeVonFurth@reddit
Sounds like Marvel Rival's gameplay loop.
ThatOneGuyIn1939@reddit
kinda sucks
i enjoyed playing league a year or so back (exclusively non-ranked solo queue) and the issues which i'd otherwise be dealing with were bearable enough. i dropped it because riot's shoving its rootkit up our asses and i don't like the idea of the chinese government having one on my PC
Chips70UwU@reddit
lol out loud🤣
Karceris@reddit
Main role, champ and peak rank?
lesecksybrian@reddit
Aram / aram / aram
Karceris@reddit
How do people enjoy that brainrot no matter how much I try to like it I just can't
lesecksybrian@reddit
Idk it's pretty fun
Porkin-Some-Beans@reddit
Because they dont have to engage with people like you in soloq. Pretty simple concept
Karceris@reddit
??? :Dddddddd
But since you started, I give it 100% you're an enchanter support main who is hardstuck bronze due to how dogsht you are hehe xd
Porkin-Some-Beans@reddit
Who talks like this?
juliusxyk@reddit
That is so real, the phase of league after beeing good enough to understand the basics and not good enough to grind ranked was genuinely peak gaming experience
HeyLuke@reddit
The trick is to stay gold-level. Like not really terrible, but also decent enough to carry every now and then. Just run it down mid every once in a while, the proper LoL way.
OptimisticGlory@reddit
Copium, it gets better after gold. Emerald is peak league in my opinion. Teammates start being constantly decent and honest less toxic. Silvers are the most atrocious group of mentally ill people I have ever encountered.
driku12@reddit
Fuck, I actually get you there. I've never been good enough to get above gold, but Silvers are genuinely some of the worst. They think they're the best cause they got out of Bronze so they constantly talk down but refuse to take any pointers or advice themselves.
BwianR@reddit
Maybe Emerald is good but Diamond 5 was by far the most toxic players before Emerald was a rank. The Gold-Plat area was the best mix of players a few years back. It took me longer to rank out of silver than Gold when I was doing the grind and then felt like I was back in Silver once I was trying to get out of Plat 1 in terms of trolling and toxicity, except the diamond players knew how to better help the other team
driku12@reddit
Yeah LoL definitely suffers in the higher levels from over-optimization in the meta. If you are basically limited to only ten of the most powerful champions at a given time with very specific strategies that have to go off without a hitch every single game, gotta have your runes a certain way, gotta do the pick a certain way, no room for failure to stay in the upper levels of the player base, that's no longer a game that's, like, doing taxes while your Asian dad yells at you over your shoulder. No longer fun, no longer any room for out of the box thinking. People treat it as a sport but I would argue most high level sports even have more room for improvisation and creativity.
Gold level is perfect for being able to bust out sleeper builds and do fun shit while still being matched with people who know what they're doing.
itmillerboy@reddit
The real trick is just running some ARAM with the boys. That’s all my friend group did on discord for like 5 hours a night for almost a year.
Sometimes I think about booting it back up but vanguard isn’t really my jam.
HeyLuke@reddit
True that is actually much more enjoyable. Just try wacky builds and pop off or int.
AnDanDan@reddit
*is to not grind ranked
Every single person I know who hates the game burned out on ranked. The people I know that enjoy the game play it casually. Something something dont let your hobby become your job.
Sultahid@reddit
I mean you can just... not grind ranked regardless of your skill lmao. I started playing after Arcane came out, am now level 500+ and pretty good at the game, and have yet to touch ranked once. Playing normals and Mayhem with friends only.
The game is so incredibly fun
occasionallyacid@reddit
Solo/duoqueue is a hellscape. Playing alone is a hellscape (I'm a jungle main...)
But playing with friends in normals and ranked flex? So much fun tbh. Like the feeling of when you and your friends come together and achieve a great game together is amazing.
... And then there's the opposite type of game where everything just goes to fucking hell where you're stuck in it for at least another 15 minutes.
snippiercarrot@reddit
The key is to just not play ranked
Dartmouthest@reddit
Did you lose friends because you lost touch or because of conflict from playing the game?
browsk@reddit
Because you didn’t become a chad ARAM enjoyer
StandardN02b@reddit
Lol is great when you are fooling around. It's awfull when you take it seriously.
Competitive kills games.
SipoteQuixote@reddit
Ha same.
Turbulent-Loquat3749@reddit
People always say that games like dota and Lol are only fun with full stack of friends,but with randoms it s usually toxic hell and stuff. Does anyone like stayed in this "fun" while not crossing " hategrind" territory? And how?
FrazzleFlib@reddit
only enjoy the game with friends personally and my friend group is good enough to not get torn apart by a videogame. we all enjoy the game and 5-stacking casually is super super fun. soloqueue ranked climbing can be fun but only if you have an extremely healthy relationship with competitiveness and dont get addicted. you need a specific mindset and personality to enjoy soloqueue
emrednz07@reddit
I unironically enjoy league a lot. Even when soloqing. I have around 4500 hours iirc. The game has the highest skill cap of any game I can think of.
Maximilianomo@reddit
Do you really think that league’s skill cap is higher compared to that of StarCraft or dota?
theduderedditorguy@reddit
GTA Online for me
crimsonBZD@reddit
ARAM Mayhem with the random augments is where the true enjoyment of League is.
Nothing like being a Nautilus as big as half the screen or a Jinx the size of a pea with 600 ms.
Sphinx87@reddit
Should try Dota next, it's heaps better.
Physical_Noise123@reddit
How did you lose friends? lol. My friends and I tried it, a few of us just found it boring after a few weeks and the other 2 kept playing in their spare time but would still play other games with us.
Couldnt imagine losing friends over a game
ansibleloop@reddit
I'm happy they added that disgustingly invasive anti cheat to it
That was enough to make me scrub it
Resident_Dot_2427@reddit
Ikr? not dropped though, but soloq is so exhausting
Jackyboyad@reddit
Honestly that’s kind of how Sonic Adventure 2 felt to me
The_Third_Molar@reddit
Sonic 1 after Green Hill Zone for me.
jishieus@reddit
Tarkov
syafizzaq@reddit
I feel like Tarkov start inside that septic tank,dig into dirt and ended up in another septic tank.
jishieus@reddit
Pvp is def like that with all the cheaters. Pve is chill when you don't have a cretin yelling in your ear about it.
TheChannelMiner@reddit
I'm glad all the PvE haters get downvoted to oblivion
Miserable fucks
jishieus@reddit
Imagine caring how someone else plays a game lmao
TheChannelMiner@reddit
Yeah just a weird lack of social awareness and being a control freak that hates when other people dare to enioy things in a different way than themselves.
TheChannelMiner@reddit
Just feels like shit after the honeymoon period after a wipe
Legit just never see a fucking PMC in PvP ever so i cant do tasks that need me to kill people
when i finally find a player it's just a pscav
it's miserable on Australia server but lag makes it awful to play on Asia
cle4rr@reddit
I play on asia from oce, worth going through the ping just to have full raids.
or just dont play the game, probably a better option
TheChannelMiner@reddit
yeah i quit a few months into 1.0 but thanks
Ok_Independence_2630@reddit
Tarkov is shit all the way through, the game looks and plays like ass and it's irritating getting my head taken off by some fucker who was just a mere pixel on my screen that I had no cgance of ever seeing/reacting to
Minute_Account9426@reddit
genshin is fun until you have to start grinding to raise level caps
Specific_Ad1457@reddit
Monopoly.
Also games like apples to apples or cards against humanity. They're funny until you start seeing the same things over and over again, or the groups humor gets sorted. It's like oh it's Dave's turn again, pull out your pop culture refrence cards.
Absolute_Slayer@reddit
Cod games
SaltyFlavors@reddit
The prestige experience
champdude17@reddit
Even as a kid I could see how stupid this was.
Oh boy, I reached max level! Now I get to do the exact same thing I just did 10 more times!
SamuraiJono@reddit
Yup. It was cool at first, but then every 10th prestige you saw was obviously gotten from a modded server, and then it meant nothing. I ended just prestiging once and hitting 70 and leaving it there.
Merry_Dankmas@reddit
I got boosted to 70 in a modded/hacked/whatever you wanna call it server in MW2 back when it was current. I didn't know much about how it worked so I showed my friend and he was like "Dude, you can prestige!" I thought this was some awesome flex so I prestiged and subsequently lost all the guns I had just unlocked in an instant. I was happy that I had everything unlocked and planned on keeping it that way only to lose it all within a few hours. I was devastated lmao.
SamuraiJono@reddit
Haha yeah, going from that AK to the base classes always hurt at first until I got good enough to breeze through the levels with a UMP-45 and stopping power lol
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
wasn't another point of prestige that you could unlock new perks/better variants of perks and also be able to combine weapon attachments that couldn't be worn together prior to prestiging?
champdude17@reddit
Maybe in the later games, when I played all you got was a banner, a badge and an extra custom class slot.
ansibleloop@reddit
It's been ass for over a decade - Black Ops 2 was the last fully good one IMO
BO3 and cold war were good for zombies and that's about it
Randyd718@reddit
Nah modern warfare 2019 was insanely good
ansibleloop@reddit
Single player for that was great from what I've seen
Multiplayer looks ass
11448844@reddit
so you didn't play it and think it's ass? many such cases
it was great
ansibleloop@reddit
I played the cod 4 remaster and it was absolute dog shit so I had no expectations
11448844@reddit
well it's 7 years gone now, but it was the first COD that utilized the new engine so it felt much better to play compared to the pre-2019 CODs
Nathan_hale53@reddit
Blops 3 MP was really fun to imo, but the custom zombies alone is worth the price.
ansibleloop@reddit
Absolutely, it's like their devs knew this was the final sendoff in a way
I don't think we'll ever seen custom zombies like that again
And it's absolutely effortless - just subscribe to a map on the steam workshop and you're done
Hell - your friends only need to join your lobby and start the game and it'll auto download it for them
Nathan_hale53@reddit
On my main PC I have an entire SSD dedicated to the game, which sadly takes up a fifth of the space before installing maps, but yeah, theyre fantastic and better than zombies has ended up today. Got a great mix of classic style and borderline campaigns. No way CoD devs will allow it since it extends the life of the game indefinitely and they want people to keep picking up the newest game.
saketho@reddit
I just saw someone on COD Zombies post how the game isn’t safe to play on PC? That even with a legit Steam install, the dude faced hackers online that messed with their game and panicked cause they thought the hackers could have more access to your computer.
I’m a noob in all this and didn’t even understand much. Is your experience with Bo3 on PC fine?
Nathan_hale53@reddit
Ive been fine, but i haven't played MP in years and there have been exploits, so its best just to keep it solo or with friends. People can literally have access to your PC with some exploits. Zombie maps are safe as well. It is well worth it just for zombies solo or with friends.
saketho@reddit
Gotcha. I was wondering whether to leave it to an old laptop that’s fully offline. But maybe I should just read up about it properly and prepare my regular PC well for it 🤔
saketho@reddit
I really enjoyed BO6, 4 maps on there were instant S tier maps for me.
SamuraiJono@reddit
MW 2019 was a fantastic game. Otherwise, pretty much, yeah.
Pavlovski101@reddit
You mean like Fisherman's Challenge on PS2?
Oofdude333@reddit
Zenless zone zero
What the fuck do you mean we get another op girl with sad backstory? Again?
Why is the protagonist so incompetent?
Why is the outfit for Lycaon in the Collab isn't obtainable???
And lore problem. Why the fuck are all the people here are stylish? Like, isn't this the last place where people can live a "normal" life? Ts so bullshit tho and honestly it just feels like they are going for more fanservice than designs that speaks for the character...
And finally, If we have all these powerful competent dangerous women here. Why can't we just use them to massacre a entire population of ethereal (enemies in game who are reanimated magic corpses) in each hollow?
Mind you, we basically got walking nukes as our agents. SO WHY ARE WE STILL STUCK AS THE "last city gang! We can't do shit!"
YOU CAN! YOU LITERALLY CAN! IT ONLY TAKES A CONCENTRATED EFFORT!
AND EVEN THE SMALLEST GIRLS CAN PARRY TONS OF HEAVY METAL GOING AT MACH SPEED AT THEIR DIRECTION! THEY ARE DANGEROUS! THEY ARE NOT TO BE MESSED WITH! SL WHY CAN'T WE JUST BUTCHER THEM ALL!?!?
AND I HATE HOW THEY DESTROY THEIR OWN IDENTITY AS A UNIQUE GAME NOW! The TV idea was awesome, the characters costume tells me what hey are, the protagonist are entertaining and competent but now???? They butchered their identity for the sake of familiarity. The fuck??????
tastysardine@reddit
any game with more than like 3 discoverable endings. i am not replaying ur shit regardless of how good it was, just to discover the ending where Scrimblo Bimblo doesnt die because i took the Emerald Of Death back to the start of the game.
kngfryxd80s@reddit
fire pfp dude
tastysardine@reddit
thanks i want him carnally
kngfryxd80s@reddit
valid
DerSchweinebrecher@reddit
Far Cry 3. After Vaas' death the game is pretty much over, the second island and the final boss just feel like a artificial extension of the game. No real story and no felt stakes.
TearOpenTheVault@reddit
No real story? There’s the entire privateer storyline with the German guy (if you remember anyone’s name but Vaas and Jason you’re a fucking liar,) where you end up having to torture your buddy. Also, you get the wingsuit.
PecpecGerg@reddit
How could you forget Citra and her cinematics ? My 14yo self could never
TearOpenTheVault@reddit
I remember that one scene, I do not remember her name.
Tostecles@reddit
I remember Buck. He likes to fuck.
TearOpenTheVault@reddit
Yeah that's fair, I honestly completley forgot about him because his sidequests are pretty mid.
Poschansky@reddit
outer worlds...
neezduts96@reddit
War thunder
DatOneGuy00@reddit
Exactly what I was looking for lol
Such an amazing game in the early tiers, very unique feeling to most vehicles, fast rewarding progression, and then you get past like tier 4 or 5 and it becomes an absolute slog
Tast3sLikePanda@reddit
Luckily gaijin actively disincentivizes playing anything above 9.0 by adding shit like the bmpt
3.2k hours in the game and I rarely touch any vehicles above 10.3 anymore
PrimeusOrion@reddit
10.3? I rarely go above 6.7
Jade8560@reddit
you think that things bad, it’s gonna get worse lmao. T-15-57, K-16, B-17 will all be even more horrendously broken when added to war thunder
Tast3sLikePanda@reddit
B17 will never be broken unless you mean in the useless sense, unless gaijin completely reworks the role and function of bombers in the game
B52 and Tu9 on paper should have been amazing, but bombers have been dogshit in this game for a long time now
Jade8560@reddit
not that B-17 also my mistake its designation is B-11, but yeah K-16 Bummerang, B-11 kurtanets
10000Didgeridoos@reddit
Holy fuck that's 133 days
Tast3sLikePanda@reddit
Over about 10 years
theM94@reddit
Warthunder has been playable for a long time my dude ....
PrimeusOrion@reddit
Was looking for this. Rank 1 and 2 are so much fun but game is awful after rank 3
theM94@reddit
well you don't have to play top tier. I miss the days of Mig15 vs F86A Sabres ... then they started adding the CL13 and for me it went downhill from there...
I don't understand why more people don't just play realistic battles with props... a lot more fun than getting shot at with missiles from everywhere
iAyushRaj@reddit
Destiny 2 but you get equal amounts of shit mixed with those diamonds and then whole load of shit
Tokipudi@reddit
Destiny 2 is one of the best FPS I've ever played, but once you get to high level content it just feels like an awful grind.
It's a shame because the game in itself truly is a masterpiece.
Nyxot@reddit
It's also pretty bad that they removed some gold tier content for awful grindy activities. Content you paid for, as extra DLC too. Fuck them.
Steg567@reddit
What “gold tier” content did they remove?
Deidris@reddit
As someone who actually played Destiny 2 since launch (and still does), No one actually replayed the Red War or Forsaken. The tangled shore was forgotten and used only to "Return to Spider". Anyone telling you "I miss doing the Baron hunts!" is lying.
They tried to move the story to a live service where new players canonically woke up after the war and therefore don't need to complete it. I still think the new player experience is a hot mess, but it is worth mentioning that they tried to streamline it instead of a new player having to play through 6 yearly DLCs and numerous seasonal campaigns just to catch up.
Nyxot@reddit
Let me load into one of my favourite raids aboard the Leviathan... Oh wait. It's not there anymore. Oopsie I guess.
What about we add stuff without removing it? And also maybe not removing paid content? That's doable for sure :)
ISoldMyPeanitsFarm@reddit
Destiny 2 is a terrible fps from the jump, at least in its current state. Basically zero story, minimal direction, bunch of fetch quests, unintuitive mechanics, and probably the worst inventory system I've ever seen. I never played at launch, but my ex asked me to play with her and it was genuinely an awful experience. You need a website and an app to make it remotely functional.
It's actually just bad
The-White-Dot@reddit
Yeah, it's the best game I ever uninstalled and will never touch again. Nice ending point at The Final Shape and then "they all lived happily ever after" is how I treat it.
Petermitnemmeter@reddit
I always feel like it's weird that people complain about that
Grinding for endgame content is part of every mmo
iAyushRaj@reddit
I didn't really care about the grind but Bungie as a whole never respected their player's investment into their game. Hypocritical whales kept them fed for a long time
Tokipudi@reddit
I get that, but it is the first game I stopped because it started feeling like a real job.
Silentmatten@reddit
Don't forget to pay 100$ to have access to that shit for a singular year
iAyushRaj@reddit
Thanks to regional pricing I never paid $100.
The deluxe version costed me $70 at max if directly converted.
Its still a lot of money though
Silentmatten@reddit
a lot of money for content you'll lose access to 50-75% of once the next season came around
iAyushRaj@reddit
I was part of the Stockholm Syndrome gang. I stuck around till the Final Shape just for the main story and then dipped off hard
Silentmatten@reddit
yeaah... i dropped off after witch queen because my friends stopped playing and the price was too steep. Which was such a hard decision to make because i love the guns in the game, just couldn't justify the expense anymore
Aerhyce@reddit
Destiny 2 just vaulted the diamonds
Singlepringle115@reddit
Overwatch, I played every since 2 came out, and it was so fun at first, but recently it felt like I was just doing a chore l, the winds didn't really feel the part, and I wasn't getting enjoyment from it anymore
fluxrider@reddit
Metaphor refantazio. Masterpiece at first.
The-Thot-Eviscerator@reddit
Overwatch.
kraftian@reddit
Yes and no, I think it peaks in like diamond. Where everyone has a baseline level of skill but there's room to do off meta things with sufficient skill.
Okaoka_12@reddit (OP)
I'd say the game's pretty ok now, i play the game myself and i enjoy it a lot for a casual player
The-Thot-Eviscerator@reddit
The rage Overwatch induces in me is unholy. It’s led to me saying some genuinely demonic things. We won’t talk about how this is most certainly a skill issue on my part.
Okaoka_12@reddit (OP)
LOL yeah the game does get pretty intense and competitive a lot of the times, it brings out the worst in us
The-Thot-Eviscerator@reddit
Real
unibrowcowmeow@reddit
Every mmo
Curtyy_RS@reddit
Runescape starts with the shit first though
YourLocalPotDealer@reddit
Yeah RS is like there’s a lot of shit at the start but you starts to find more and more diamonds until you’re swimming in it
RogueThespian@reddit
depends what game mode. pre-prif iron is some of the most fun a game can be
rip-droptire@reddit
I'd say eve online is the opposite of this image. Gotta get through a lot of shit, like years of it, before the game opens up
Fuzzy_Wheel_4565@reddit
I would argue most MMOs are just shit from start to finish
Greatgg@reddit
I would argue that many of them are good while you are still in the story part and making your character grow, but with time I understood that basically I liked the oart of the MMOs that felt like a single-player RPG and disliked everything that made them a MMO
throwaway8675-309@reddit
That's the only reason I like Elder Scrolls Online, but believe me if there was a way for me to mod a complete map of all of Tamriel into Skyrim and play a fully voiced massove singleplayer campaign for the next 5 years straight, I would in a heartbeat
Greatgg@reddit
Same. And Star Wars TOR as well
smurfkipz@reddit
Eh, Lost Ark is great for a long while, then eventually the highest level raids are gatekept by people with insane gear.
StandardN02b@reddit
MMOs are shit because the players turned into shit. An MMO is suposed to be a game mixed with a social network to do stuff with people while you grind and then players turned it into a turbo optimization game with no place for idle fun.
Looking at you, RuneScape.
superdemongob@reddit
I remember when osrs was all there was and people cutting wood or killing cows for leather etc would actually chat and hang out and have fun.
Now people are like "oh you're killing cows? What a waste of time. Just buy the leather"
StandardN02b@reddit
And then they say: "Why are there so many bots?"
Hawt_Dawg_II@reddit
Most multiplayer shooters. It's just a matter of time until It's all so optimised and balanced that all the fun gets taken out of it.
Iridiandioptase@reddit
Overwatch nerfed every character I ever loved and Hanzo can still kill me with a log around corners. Balanced is not fair.
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
exactly. now bring back early to mid 10s League "balancing" back (spoiler: there barely was any, which made the game inherently fun), Riot games. I want to kill some overfed Jax who think they're unstoppable
Supershadow30@reddit
Tbh that’s why i eventually dropped TF2 back in the day. A ton of weapons just lost all their sauce because they weren’t "balanced", so now there’s only 2 viable scatterguns and grenade launchers (aside from the loose cannon) are basically placebos of eachother.
lot_@reddit
Not counterstrike
Hawt_Dawg_II@reddit
Gabe stays winning
Ericakester@reddit
Spore
SleepingPodOne@reddit
Resident evil 6
Jay_T_Demi@reddit
I want to refute this, but I have started two separate playthroughs of RE6 with different people and both fizzled out around the same time. Maybe you have a point...
SleepingPodOne@reddit
That’s the thing! The game isn’t terrible mechanics-wise. It just greatly, greatly overstays its welcome and becomes a tedious slog. The mechanics are there but the gameplay design is mediocre.
Harryofthecharlottes@reddit
And 7 during the boat section
Dreaming_Dreams@reddit
i played 7 for the first time recently and don’t get the hate for that part all, wasn’t nearly as bad as i heard
DOLO-650@reddit
Not bad? I think it's considered one of the, if not the best of the modern resident evil games? Where did you even hear the hate part? Some people might have some minor issues with that game but I believe it's a general consensus that the game has excellent horror and environments and the new RE engine performance is still exceptional to the day (an was when RE7 released)?
iSQUISHYyou@reddit
They are discussing the boat section of RE7 specifically. Which is dog water.
DOLO-650@reddit
Makes sense. Quite literally shitty water.
Bristolblueeyes@reddit
I think they were referring to that part of the game specifically, not the game as a whole.
Hyperversum@reddit
The ship Is literally better than a lot of stuff that came before, whar the fuck are you people on lmao.
It's actually a RE section rather than a straight line
saketho@reddit
The unskippable videotape in the Ship is a straight line annoyance. But I agree that Mia’s present day is a proper RE section, and the crawlers are great enemies there.
Hyperversum@reddit
Oh yeah, the tape is a bit meh, but it goes smoother than some other sections because you get a new gun (even if it kinda sucks it's fun to use an automatic gun recklessly lol) and the bombs, so you get some new toys to play with.
As soon as you get back to present time Mia, you have a multi-layered area you can traverse in different ways, some optional loot to work towards and the crawlers are an actual threat rather than an annoyance you can solve by popping on shotgun shell.
This is kinda my criticism towards some other parts of the game in general. Lucas section is fun but linear and Marguerite old house is made annoying by the fucking bugs being the single most obnoxious this franchise ever had.
I am particularly pissed about the Marguerite section because the house is creepy and fun to explore, but the bugs are simply way too fucking boring to deal with. She is also a lot of waste potential. Good concept to have a "weak" boss that relies on ambushing and deploying minions but good fucking Lord how much health does she have and why the fuck does she spend more time scuttling around the walls than actually ambushing you.
With Mia it's as if they suddenly remembered what RE gameplay loop was.
mixmaster321@reddit
I mean the boat section is at the very end of the game so the amount of shit is far less than the pic portrays
Arci996@reddit
The boat section wasn’t even that bad imho, the mines on the other hand were dogshit.
Sure_Association_991@reddit
We need to get to the church
Astik92@reddit
The Leon campaign is fine. But when you play Ada campaign in co-op as an agent...
Tonberry_Cheesecake@reddit
It rules.
Okama-uiro@reddit
James?
Vadim_the_gopnik@reddit
All 3 games in the original STALKER triology ....
All of them pretty much have a last section consist of a linear level with crappy and confusing level design filled with dudes that can instant kill you even if you only show them your little toe.
k_GOBL1N@reddit
Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey. Actually had story, characters, variety, and actual exploration. Then it goes into shitty MMO RPG grinding mode and it’s not even a MMO RPG. At least in those, there’s other people to hang out with while you grind.
Fuzzy_Wheel_4565@reddit
Wow classic
broniesnstuff@reddit
I played so much classic up until before they dropped Burning Crusade in.
I loved it. But raiding and guilds absolutely killed my desire to ever play the game again. Ever.
It's solved content. Why in the fuck are we stressing out over spreadsheets?
People pulled dumb bullshit over loot, friendships ended over guild drama, judgements made purely based on values from a spreadsheet.
You want to talk pure numbers around DPS? Fine. There's merit to that. But healing and tanking? So much more goes into those roles than spamming buttons and slapping a two digit number on someone.
proterraria@reddit
its legit so fun from like lvl 1 to around 40-50 for me
Fuzzy_Wheel_4565@reddit
Yeah that's right where i start to hate it too
MenBearsPigs@reddit
The magic leveling is definitely 1-50.
I always burn out of raids after the second week doing them lol.
Leveling and spontaneous world interactions were always my favorite part of WoW.
Occasional dungeons as you go for cool gear.
pwillia7@reddit
I played WOW at release and never went back and 40-50 is around where I tapped out I think. I was a necromancer I believe
unrelated_themes@reddit
I got bored of grinding at around level 50 and started playing the auction house. Started by resetting prices and cornering smaller markets, by the time I got banned I was employing around 30 ppl intermittently and about 70-80% of all AH listings were mine though cutouts via my guild mates. Taught me a lot about the economy. I was like 13 lol
champdude17@reddit
I never got into WoW, but I've seen people say the game only really starts at max level with raids?
Fuzzy_Wheel_4565@reddit
Retail maybe, with classic thats pretty much where it ends for most. Early leveling is a completely unique experience, very social and every item, boss and dungeon feels great. Have not experienced anything similar in any game. Then lvl 50+ is the same old MMO grind of dungeon/raid etc with sweaty nerds who don't want to interact with anyone, just grind as fast as possible. Got boring real fast for me then
cogspringseverywhere@reddit
Classic up until I think Pandaria used to have a really well crafted levelling system, each zone you went had quest chains to follow and encouraged world exploration. When they redid the world with Cataclysm, despite however you feel about that, the world still had that crafted story, more defined and linear story telling than classic did. But when they re-balanced the leveling and squashed exp gains, you'd often outlevel the zone you were in almost immediately, leaving stuff flat and unfinished and propelling you towards endgame which is mostly sitting around in a city while in a queue for a dungeon
Ryanfischer99@reddit
10 man Raiding might be the most fun I've ever had playing a video game. I've raided from Wotlk classic and we're about to start Siege of Orgrimmar in MoP now.
In 10 man heroics you can't afford to carry anyone's weight so every person is important and every person has to contribute strategically. Calling out cool downs, trying to figure out what optimizations your class can make to make the fight easier for everyone else, and mastering your rotation to do the most dps or healing you can is just so much fun. Nothing beats killing the boss you've been stuck on for weeks. The people I play with have become some of my closest friends. It's amazing.
I will say, that it's a lot less fun when you play with people who treat it like a job. You've gotta find a guild that has the right balance of hardcore raiding with casual mindsets.
Okaoka_12@reddit (OP)
Aw man you're right, i'm a big fan of warcraft and it sucks how they did it like that
AmericaninShenzhen@reddit
Is this the front page?
I thought this was just a version of 4chan without all the mediocre pornography.
OddNovel565@reddit
Hot take but Borderlands. I know its depends on preference but grinding over and over again isn't my thing. I realized what this game is about far too late, I basically got to the point where beating a single regular story mission enemy took me a solid several minutes, and I could get killed it several shots. Then I realized you had to grind to level your character up and hope to get lucky to get high level and stat gear. I honestly love BL2 but I can't for the love of it grind so much. I first had to drop the game during the boss fight where you save Roland because that fuckass combine broodmother type boss kept screwing me so much it just decided to leave the map so I had to go to a completely separate place to get it. Then I returned again and played for longer (even played some of the DLCs and they're so awesome like the main game aside from gridning) but eventually dropped the game for good around where you start going go Handsome Jack's evil mordor looking area. Those hyperion robots gave me PTSD to this day, if I hear those robot walking thumps I completely lose my shit, or when I just remember the sounds of them landing from the sky I just go insane.
Rubmynippleplease@reddit
I don't remember having to grind at all in BL2?
Ak2Co@reddit
Only if you do ultimate vault hunter mode after beating the story twice. You almost have to farm certain bosses for certain gear, especially if you want to do OP levels. I lived it but it's not for everyone.
Rubmynippleplease@reddit
Ok but it sounds like OP didnt beat the story once
Ak2Co@reddit
Yeah you're right. I have no idea then, first time through should be a breeze. I'm guessing they didn't do a single side quest then or very few at most.
Jay_T_Demi@reddit
This is my impression. I replayed Borderlands 2 enough that I got the sidequests I did down to a science. Have no clue what they are, I just know on playthroughs I've had since that a sidequest would appear and I intrinsically know whether or not I need to do it to stay on level with enemies.
To be fair, I feel like the story of Bl2 uses urgency to add tension. Great for the atmosphere of the game, but bad for people who think they're under a constant timer. Once you realize you can take your time and Bl2 isn't like a choice-based game or a time-gated game, it gets a lot easier. I could absolutely see someone new to the game rushing through the main story by accident
OddNovel565@reddit
Maybe you're just that good?
Dont_Touch_My_Nachos@reddit
Nah, it's just not that hard. Especially if you use the right weapons and get a well synergized build. You also don't have to grind gear that much. Also, you don't have to grind to get the perfect gun, whites and greens are more than enough to beat the game most of the time. If you don't mind me asking, what class did you play as?
Rubmynippleplease@reddit
Probably not? I recall doing a good couple side missions here and there which maybe constitutes grinding? But I dont consider that grinding.
I certainly never had to get lucky with high stat gear or whatever. I just equipped whatever was highest level and had no issues.
RunInRunOn@reddit
I felt like I had hit a wall the same way you had, but then I got the idea to re-spec my character (which you do in Sanctuary, at the same place you change skins) and put all my skill points into one specific tree instead of spreading them around like I had been doing prior. After that, I practically flew through the rest of the game
OddNovel565@reddit
I really should give the game a second chance sometime. Unfortunately my new pc cannot run the game at all so it won't be anytime soon. It's genuinely one of my most favourite games and it feels kind of unfair to leave it off the way I did
superdemongob@reddit
There's also no shame in getting a better loot mod. It's a singleplayer game. For second+ playthroughs, I always get a good loot mod cus I actually want to try all the legendary guns and I don't want to spend 3 years grinding.
Lemak0@reddit
Abysmal build type shit
pibenis@reddit
Borderlands is the fucking worst game franchise to me. We once played it for HOURS in coop and it felt like I was still doing the tutorial. We just progressed through the game with zero resistance and every second of it felt like shit
Plastic_Mongoose_390@reddit
Not even a hot take borderlands games are just dogshit and boring
Brenoandnumbers@reddit
Forager. Cause the endgame is just grindslop
Bonk5@reddit
Dune awakening
Avarice51@reddit
Looks like every game is named here: so I guess no fun games apparently.
Or maybe you’re just miserable and blaming games instead
kngfryxd80s@reddit
I haven't seen most of the games i play tbh, i only recall mass effect 3 so far
lightwhisper@reddit
Starfield.
kngfryxd80s@reddit
id argue its 90% shit 10% diamonds ngl
SuckEmOff@reddit
Helldivers 2, started out great but has gone to shit due to incompetent devs.
lazerblam@reddit
Yeah i loved the game but all the nerfs and stale gameplay plus the devs complete lack of care killed it for me. Uninstalled for Arc Raiders when that came out and though i still enjoy it, unfortunately could go the same way, if Embark dont get their shit together lol.
SuckEmOff@reddit
That and their complete inability to literally add anything except warbonds. People have been waiting for ship upgrades or a reason to use almost any game resource outside of medals. They’ve made it clear they don’t really give a shit and we’ll just get a a half baked warbond and a cookie cutter biome every few months.
b400k513@reddit
I'm stupid, is the point that he has to work hard to get to the good part? Or is he stoked the whole time because there are diamonds followed by a door to a whimsical world?
kngfryxd80s@reddit
yes the 2nd one it's all diamonds until he gets to the shit part
JackDoesThingz@reddit
Tic Tac Toe. Once you figure out a good strategy the game becomes nothing. Years wasted trying to perfect my technique, only to burnout and become a severe alcoholic.
_eleutheria@reddit
Indeed. Most kids figure the game out in a couple of hours of play and immediately become severe alcoholics. Society has got to do something about it. Enough is enough.
TectonicTechnomancer@reddit
If your opponent knows how to play it always ends in a draw, unless someone is stupid enough to not choose the center first, which means they don't know how to play anyway.
Ensvey@reddit
Common knowledge is to start in the center, but if you start in a corner, you can bait them into losing... X in corner, they probably follow with O in the middle, you put X in the opposite corner (which seems like a stupid move but it's not), they put O in another corner, you put X in the last corner, and now they're fucked because you win.
ANGLVD3TH@reddit
This assumes O makes a pretty bad fumble with the corner move. The first three moves listed are all optimal, but if O plays a side then it ends in a draw, which is the best O can do if X plays optimally. If O plays anywhere except the center, they will lose.
Ensvey@reddit
Yeah, this only catches someone once or twice, if their only prior tic-tac-toe strategy consisted of "the middle is the best square, the corners are second best"
ANGLVD3TH@reddit
Starting the center is not optimal play. Unless you were talking about the second player. Optimal first move is always take a corner. You can force a win if the second player plays anything other than the center.
TectonicTechnomancer@reddit
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ANGLVD3TH@reddit
Top left
TectonicTechnomancer@reddit
then is a draw, thats the best possible scenario if you start, there isn't really a way to force a win, the opponent can always cause a draw, but you are right as well, starting from the corner gives more opportunities to commit mistakes to your rival, so it may be better if the opponent doesn't know how to play, imo center is superior because its over quickly and guarantees a draw at worse.
TheGreatSaltboy@reddit
Ultimate tic-tac-toe better
10000Didgeridoos@reddit
And you got your hand broken that one time they figured out you were sharking them
MixaLv@reddit
It doesn't really become shit, you just run out of diamonds. Anyway, I recommend trying the Connect 4 or Gomoku dlc, they expand the base game so much.
Jackmember@reddit
Connect 4 is now a solved game too, apparently.
MixaLv@reddit
Yeah but op doesn't know the strats yet, the same thing why they were able to enjoy tictactoe
VbeingGirlyGetsMeHot@reddit
Resident Evil 9 until the end of the care center.
genie_on_a_porcini@reddit
Mass effect
OptimalApelikebeing@reddit
warframe
boozewald@reddit
ARPGs and borderlands can feel like slot machines for Millennials in the worst way.
Especially Diablo and PoE when you finish the story and have to grind for weird currency to get special maps to get specific loot under crazy conditions. I know its fun for a lot of folks but I feel like I've gotta do spread sheets in between playing the most boring inventory loot management system. I get a little dopamine rush when I find that good item... Whoopdeedoo, I actually need a minimum 20 of them because that only got me one chance at the thing I need... back to grinding.
DistinctBread3098@reddit
Donkey Kong bananza. Feels incredibly but after 6-7h you notice that there is no brain to the game.
Dkc are my 3 favorite games ever I do them 3 twice a year but bananza I didn't even finish.
comicgeek1128@reddit
Honestly Mouse PI
CrippledProphet@reddit
So much hype for such a boring game
AnDanDan@reddit
Anything that is 'cartoony but dark' is honestly an immediate red flag for me.
bunker_man@reddit
It honestly looked like the premise was just "It looks cool like cuphead," and that's basically it.
sanecomputing@reddit
this is so fucking true, had this on my wishlist for years and my god it was such a disappointment
comicgeek1128@reddit
Yeah it really petered out after the first few mission when I realized I'd be fighting the same enemies the whole game.
Dani3594@reddit
It died on the vine
Professorbogdan@reddit
Warframe after the story tutorial
Iron0skull@reddit
How much have you played
manjustletmebrowse@reddit
Last Epoch
Horsemanofthedank@reddit
Fate/Grand Order
toiletclogger2671@reddit
way exaggerated of course but kcd2 somehow? first half is an absolute gem, pretty much perfect and the second half gets somewhat stale and boring
afuckingpolarbear@reddit
Outriders
That game was absolute gold until the rndgame where every enemy is an absolute bullet sponge and the abilities you have only stun them
HereticalCelery@reddit
Story was ass, guns were stereotypical archetypes, classes were unimaginative but holy hell when a full build comes together and you just smite a poor little gremlin with the full power of God. Beautiful.
Shame the devs cut and ran after they released that overpriced garbage dlc
afuckingpolarbear@reddit
If they had dine what the division did in their sequel and just made it less bullet spongy it would have been great
Ok_Independence_2630@reddit
I never even got to the end ngl, I played it when it first came out and jusy saw it as a 3rd person destiny clone with a story that was very difficult to follow
afuckingpolarbear@reddit
I got close to the end bit never fully finished it
Burritozi11a@reddit
Assassin's Creed 2
The late/endgame is just insufferable with the Forli arc, the Bonfire of the Vanities and needing to collect every codex page to see the last sequence
MaleGardev0ir@reddit
dark souls 1 after anor londo
Greygames2214@reddit
Genshin was so unbelievably fun on my initial playthrough, but once you discover the whole map through the statues, it starts to die down, and then once you finish the "main" quest (you can skip straight to the "New" main quest) there is little to do besides events and even those have been sidelined for the wonderland gamemode
Muchkev@reddit
FF16 for me. Starts off very strong but then it becomes a bunch of fetch quests and bloat that just muddles the entire experience. I was not a fan of many of the side quests and feel the game could do without them as well.
RomeosHomeos@reddit
God of war norse saga
MagiksSon@reddit
Helldivers 2 and marvel rivals. Both are trash after the high of trying a new game wears off
RidesFlysAndVibes@reddit
I have 1000+ hours on rivals. I find the fun in mastering each character. 18 lords now at this point. Plus the arcade mods they come out with keeps it kinda fresh, but also, I can see where you're coming from. I just invent the fun along the way
FrazzleFlib@reddit
i feel like this just means you didnt really like them lmao theyre both solid games
MagiksSon@reddit
I love helldivers 2 but its a broken buggy mess lacking content where it matters like weapon customization and ship upgrades all they do now is shit out a warbond occasionally. Rivals was fun until they added brain rot characters that ruin all the fun while also making terrible balancing decisions. Both suck and I hardly play either anymore
FrazzleFlib@reddit
helldivers 2 is infested with immense issues that make it half the game it deserves to be, but it was in a much worse state on launch. rivals i havent played since like season 3 so i cant really talk but i did have fun with it, my friends just lost interest. i guess i just dont understand this concept of a high of trying a new game lmfao im not gonna enjoy a shit game just because its new
MagiksSon@reddit
It's really not that difficult to understand. new game comes out and IF you like it you overlook the flaws and issues in game but the more you play the more you notice them and the more annoying they are because they don't get fixed or even addressed, it's why games like hd2, rivals, bf6, arc raiders and other successful games get praised at launch but if you look at the the communities now it's just people complaining about everything. When I started playing hd2 last summer I thought it was amazing and couldn't stop playing and didn't understand why there was so much vitriol all the time and even clowned the people complaining non-stop but the more I played the more I realized how shallow, buggy, and broken the game is. Lack of end game content, bugs/glitches that have been around since before I started playing, terrible balancing, not enough info in game and instead being shared in fucking discord, weapon customization is a joke, and more. Now I play like once a week same with rivals.
GothLockedInSvrRoom@reddit
I disagree with Helldivers honestly. I'm at 200 hours mostly solo diving and still love the game very much. If friends play which is a rarity it's even more fun.
I'm also an Overwatch enjoyer since OW1 release, Rivals biggest problem is that the neutral game is rly boring, whoever has the most impact with their ult normally wins the team fight. If they solved that I feel like the game would be a lot better.
MattTheGuy2@reddit
Minecraft if you’re trying to go to the end. The nether grind just simply sucks and makes it so hard to play
Haggis442312@reddit
Bioshock 1. Everything leading up to Ryan is so fucking good. Then that scene hits and your mind is blown away, and it's probably the greatest thing gaming has ever done.
And then the last third is just kind of hollow and empty.
The thing about Bioshock 2 is that while it never hit the heights of the first, it was just consistently very good to decent.
System Shock 2 did this to a degree, but the after that scene, it mostly continues as good as it did before, since it leans a lot more on isolated atmosphere than on story.
Faite666@reddit
Same with infinite for me. The game is so sick for me up until around rescuing Elizabeth from the tower. But once we get into comstockception and time fuckery is where the game loses me FAST
driku12@reddit
FNAF lore
HereticalCelery@reddit
Destiny 2, but they sunset the diamonds so new players could never understand.
i_like_siren_head@reddit
Hide and seek. Once all the good spots are found the game becomes purely psychological.
HeavilyInvestedDonut@reddit
That’s why you move around. Keep the best hiding spots secret
Faite666@reddit
And only ever check your hiding spots when nobody is around, otherwise people will realize that's somewhere that exists to hide in
StandardN02b@reddit
Try no hidding challenge.
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
> OP names Getshit impact unironically > OP is implying that thw game has redeeming qualities worth mentioning, unironically
QuesoseuQ@reddit
Elden ring
The "main" line, limgrave to lucaria to leyndell, is solid, everything after and most of the optional stuff ranges from ok to pure garbage. Everyone hates on Dark Souls 1's endgame, but imo elden ring's is much worse, to the point that it's straight up not enjoyable. I actually kinda like the ds1 endgame, aside from izalith, i dont get the hate. Meanwhile most of my elden ring runs either end or get put on hold after leyndell. Fire giant, foreskin duo, maliketh, and the all knowing fuck are dumper fires, I'd rather fight bed of chaos 10 times than any of those pieces of shit once.
AccordingtoHistoryy@reddit
I think this image fits the description of the feeling when you log on an online competitive game for fun then minutes later you want to end someone irl
redm00n99@reddit
farcy 3. You kill the best villain like halfway through
jmorlin@reddit
Honestly the rest of that game wasn't even shit, it was just the first half was so good by comparison.
Impossible-Pizza982@reddit
Destiny going from year 2 to 3 and onwards. Final shape was a gem but unfortunately too little too late
Notsorry6767@reddit
Death stranding 2. Boy howdy that ending was not for me.
00goop@reddit
Clash of Clans.
JpeNSurf@reddit
World of tanks
JakeVonFurth@reddit
Marvel Rivals. I genuinely don't think I've enjoyed a Season for half the game's lifespan now.
Ill_Pollution5633@reddit
i can't even give a better example right now just because i've been pissed about genshin for a little bit, game's stuck in 2021, they actively hurt f2p players more and more, barely giving the game proper QoL improvements, it just keeps getting worse
jecamoose@reddit
Skylanders giants
DanteThePunk@reddit
Red Dead Online
Was an addict during the pandemic when there was a shit ton of stuff to do. After a while you have nothing else to play for.
fruitymcfruitcake@reddit
Kcd2
TearOpenTheVault@reddit
If it’s anything like KC1, where’s the diamonds?
fruitymcfruitcake@reddit
If it was, itd be all diamonds. The second half of kcd2 is just complete goyslop cringe.
Meewelyne@reddit
The Sims 4. On paper almost every expansion is fantastic, but when you own them all it's a shit show of notifications, options and the life panels become 4km long.
Sea_Cryptographer544@reddit
I learned the other day that you can turn off some apps on the sims phone (cupid corner thing and the bunny social network thing). It doesn't fix all of the notifs but it helps.
Meewelyne@reddit
Yeah and it's bugged, and honestly the most annoying notifications are from the calendar and from pack's events and suggestions.
Sea_Cryptographer544@reddit
The high school football notification that is SO LOUD omg calm down
Corazon95@reddit
unironically modding Skyrim. Imagine spending weeks installing mods and making your game rival any other modern games and just getting bored after 5 minutes.
MetallGecko@reddit
Every Paradox game, i always reach a point where i have no enemies and i can just paint the map like a canvas.
jokosa@reddit
Mass Effect 🥲 first game I played on the 360.
snakeoildoc@reddit
I really liked AC shadows at first but then got in to the meat of it and put it down
Friend-Boat@reddit
Another crab’s treasure. In a game full of bright colors and happy music, the last few hours are the opposite. Pitch black silence at the bottom of the ocean while you dodge your way through way too many giant laser crabs.
It works with the game’s themes of depression and the inevitability of ecological damage, but man is it genuinely grating to be in darkness and silence for that long.
Grinem@reddit
War Thunder
H78U43@reddit
Elden Ring. The snow area and last boss were a huge let down.
cuntbasher666@reddit
Dune Awakening
xTreme2I@reddit
Sadly Arc Raiders
WannabePokerPlayer@reddit
The Arkham series, leading up to Arkham Knight
hornwalker@reddit
Mass Effect trilogy
guessimkindaemo@reddit
Minecraft
VonDinky@reddit
Diablo when Diablo 3 came out.
Natural_Ad1530@reddit
99% of the games nowadays. If it's not some woke shit, it's a bugged mess or a store with a game to play.
felix_semicolon@reddit
Hello neighbour
cinnamon_5978@reddit
has to be minecraft dungeons
Professional_Key2492@reddit
Not game, but drug abuse probably feels like that
Madden2919@reddit
FF15 has to be one of the best examples of this. Pretty decent first and second act only to fucking DESTROY any hope of a good ending with some random timeskip that ruins the pacing of the whole game
YoBoiCam420@reddit
Call of duty modern warfare 2019 I will never buy anything from that fucking company again
Anariel_Elensar@reddit
damn OP i feel the same way. IMO Mondstadt, Liyue, Inazuma were peak Genshin. Sumeru and Fontaine were still pretty good all things considered. Then Natlan came and I just completely lost interest and still haven’t finished it.
danteas14@reddit
Holy shit take Everything from mondstand to Inazuma was literally trash(plotwise). It only started to pick up on sumeru, and since then Every update has been pretty much better than the last
Previous_Air_9030@reddit
Weird because I have the exact opposite experience. The first 3 nations were swell but felt a little dry in terms of personality and overall story, but Sumeru - especially with the sidequests - were really enjoyable. And Fontaine? The ocean exploration was so fun I'm sad we've never returned. Natlan and being able to play as different saurians was close, but not quite as fun. I will say its story and most of the characters were kinda dull, but meh, it's a game with like 5,000 hours of content I'm not gonna cry if there's a few misses here and there.
BizoIsMe0708@reddit
Fontain was peak genshin. Amazing characters. Gorgeous open world. Story with a believable twist. The traveller feels like the catalyst, rather than being the sole savior of the country. And the BGM-OSTs? Absolute cinema.
m3m31ord@reddit
Genshin impact is divided in story quality and gameplay quality.
Early to mid Genshin, Mond to Inazuma is mid story, good gameplay. The story was still trying to figure itself out and the open world shine was still present.
Mid to late Genshin, Sumeru to Nod Krai is great story, mid gameplay. The story found its footing but the first real wave of powercreep has happened.
PLCutiePie@reddit
I agree but I think what makes genshin shit is not relevant to story or zones but game systems
When you first start you play the game. You explore, do the story, kill some innocent hilichurls, just do whatever you want.
As time goes on you meet extremely bullshit systems. The scam weapon banner, low pull counts, weekly boss limits, boring artifact farms, repetitive reputation grinds, exploration QoL locked behind limited 5 stars, zone exclusive mechanics that make some enemies very annoying to fight against and more
That-Grim-Reaper@reddit
I disagree partially. I found Mondstadt’s story to be quite basic, which is understandable since it’s the first chapter, but I was still bored. Liyue and Inazuma were great, but imo Genshin peaked with Fontaine. Personally I found the story to be the best as well as exploration and side quests.
I stopped playing after Natlan though, we agree on that. Will probably start again when Capitano comes back
Masuku68@reddit
Different take for me on Genshin and gacha games as a whole.
Genshin is great at the start of any update since there's a huge map to explore, stuff to find... But that's like 2 days. Then it devolves into doing your dailies, doing the event... Essentially a second work to get the crumbs they give you to roll characters. Gameplay itself in the end is essentially looping the same skills and ultimates and even the events often have a gameplay that's shallow at best but let's face it the goal isn't friction with the player. It's to make you feel good and give you the feeling that you achieved something so that you come back playing every day until the day you snap and start putting money in the game thinking "well I've played for free for so many hours, I can give the game some money". Realized recently I'm not "playing" these games to truly play them but to get paid with some free currency.
Ended up stopping all gacha games a few days prior aside from Project Sekai (rythm game so the bonuses the gacha characters grant you actually feel more like cheats than actual gameplay).
OccasionFormer@reddit
have to agree. I have some fond memories about the early coop event, like the one we fought the cryo flower in dragonspine, the gameplay is fun, the asthetic is good, it was lovely. And then the "nation of war" came and it looks like goddamn Disneyland. They also really fucked up the personality of their cool characters, having them say cringe stuffs in side events (looking at you Raiden Shogun, why tf would you go to the wood alone and happen to meet us building a cringe fest over here?)
artmoloch777@reddit
Borderlands
turkishjedi21@reddit
Stalker 2 lmao
MrStink45@reddit
RE4 when you reached the island.
Evil-with-a-D@reddit
Marvel Snap
Sad-Guarantee-4678@reddit
That's the first month in any competitive multiplayer game ever made
xZombieRitualx@reddit
2020 Warzone was peak
Sad-Guarantee-4678@reddit
200%, the most fun I've ever had in a multiplayer game. Crazy how much worse it became, because they had to fuck with it for zero reason whatsoever
Dead-Meme-Ghost@reddit
factorio but in a good way, also cause im kinda stupid
wellreadwhore@reddit
Kingdom hearts 3
Bigsmokeisgay@reddit
Overwatch 1 vs Overwatch 2
PotemkinSuplex@reddit
Inscryption
PotemkinSuplex@reddit
Inscryption
ChoiceFudge3662@reddit
Have it alternate between shit and diamonds and you pretty much get destiny 2 through the years.
H-Adam@reddit
The Casting Of Frank Stone
RealScionEcto@reddit
Sonic 2.
Olcri@reddit
This is literally the exact opposite of Genshin, lmao. Exploring is fun, but the real good stuff usually isn't the archon quests, its the world quests and the lore you find in the background. Or go a step farther and actively listen to the OST albums instead of just leaving it in the background.
AskGoverntale@reddit
Wizard101
DemonicDogo@reddit
I was questing with someone and we were casually complaining together and they went "yeah I actually hate this game too" and truer words have never been spoken lol
Pirate401@reddit
The story and characters are cool but a lot of the game features need to be improved so much 😭😭
ZeGaskMask@reddit
Dune awakening
mang87@reddit
Yeah that's a big one for me. Really enjoyed playing through it with a friend, but then once we got to the deep desert we realised it was pointless. To do anything fun you'd need to join a big guild to PVP and that just doesn't seem fun, since the game can be so glitchy. Looking at the patch notes though they seem to be changing things. I figure if I give it a couple years there might be a reason to play through to the end game again.
Darkraisisi@reddit
Stormworks. Game starts out fun and unique, wow i can build ships and many other crafts and do rescue and resource missions! Except the buoyancy mechanics are terrible and the building. And the missions mean nothing and there is no progression or need to build more or other ships.
thewanderingchilean@reddit
All call of duty games after world at war.
VennHearts@reddit
Destiny 2
Vindictor55@reddit
Chivalry before and after leaving the noob lobbies.
Pakett16@reddit
Pathfinder Kingmaker is the definition of this
Bshild94@reddit
Brutal Legend when you hit the RTS part.
Don’t get me wrong I still love the game but holy shit did it come out of nowhere.
Buttfranklin2000@reddit
It's a throwback to games like Sacrifice. And I'm glad that's in the game, it's still a unique cool experience till this day - both in terms of world design/setting and the gameplay.
Wish EA would've done just two things - actually market it as what the game devs developed it, i.E. a game like Sacrifice we haven't seen in years, and actually let them finish the game properly. Fuck you EA execs.
speedweed99@reddit
Marvel cosmic invasion
cheesysaladorhamburg@reddit
For honor
steffenbk@reddit
Company of heros franchise after coh2 it went to shit
KazakiriKaoru@reddit
What problem do you have with genshin op?
TectonicTechnomancer@reddit
Cowboys, Dinosaurs and Laser weapons, the peak ass game Dino Storm, whose only redeeming qualities are nostalgic memories.
GreenZeb@reddit
The Darksouls franchise
BoiSandwich@reddit
First is a diamond, even though the lord souls areas are kinda poopy. Ds2 is ass all the way and ds3 beginning is really meh until the quality starts rising later in the game and just keeps going up until the end. Imho.
Cybronikai@reddit
For honor. It was amazing back when the tone was gritty and everyone sucked at the game equally. Now its a tryhard toxic flashy hellscape with heroes getting released broken every time.
Altruistic-Ticket290@reddit
Destiny 2
Hanniezz@reddit
Silksong, act 3 boring
Nome_de_utilizador@reddit
Skill issue
Hanniezz@reddit
Act 3 is not hard , need me pantheon of pharloom or something
Nome_de_utilizador@reddit
A game doesn't need to be hardcore hard to not be boring. People going through some of the most astetically beautiful areas like verdania, or fights like carmelita, garmond, sett, the tower and the abyss, which all carry different impact for the story with beautiful soundtracks and call it boring after going through act 1 and 2 is a wild take.
Yanzihko@reddit
Minecraft
TearOpenTheVault@reddit
The thing with Minecraft is that there’s effectively no good progression system to keep you engaged with it. The game is almost designed to catapult you to near-endgame as quickly as possible, with everything added on top of that basically acting as prestige gimmicks. Enchanting is a ridiculous grindfest if you do it meta-properly and not very interesting if you do it as intended.
You make one wood pickaxe to make one stone pickaxe to get iron and then you’ve effectively skipped 3/4ths of the gear tiers like that. Copper is pointless because it’s no harder to get than iron. Basic enchantments on diamond makes netherrite irrelevant.
This is why you should play Vintage Story, because it’s actually got good progression systems and engaging mechanics with real depth to them.
Splatfan0@reddit
Inscryption personally, everything after the first section was just not fun anymore and felt way to bloated
_Empty-R_@reddit
Blackjack championship on steam. Dont level up. I just want to fucking play cards you rigged stupid motherfucker
s0ftcustomer@reddit
Elden Ring
t_h_pickle@reddit
any mobile game ever made
t_h_pickle@reddit
freemium, specifically
AbortionBulld0zer@reddit
Almost every crpg because game ran out of budget, and latest chapters are an unbalanced hot mess
IT_techsupport@reddit
Resident Evil 7
kondi_u@reddit
CS2
perrotini@reddit
For me it is Bioshock Infinite, it has an amazing beginning and it doesn't deliver afterwards on gameplay or writing, you complete it out of Stockholm syndrome
VP0R@reddit
Borderlands the first two games are gold third one story wise sucked donkey dick
champdude17@reddit
Pre Naxrammas Hearthstone.
semihdogan@reddit
Sadly, The Long Dark. We've waited so long to get that mediocre ending.
MrProtogen@reddit
The development history of the hello neighbor franchise
GiveOrisaOrIthrow@reddit
Helldivers
fatass_pallascat@reddit
Tiny Bunny (Зайчик)
AsianCivicDriver@reddit
Pretty much every Ubisoft game
Strict_Space_1994@reddit
Every gacha game by nature follows this pattern to suck you in. Hearthstone got me, their rewards structure is so much for your first few wins and so little for everything beyond that
_Saint_Blasphemer_@reddit
As much as I love darksouls the first darksouls game. Beginning is alright middle is a ton of fun and the end third is a bit of a slog
Molybdene42@reddit
World of Tanks. Once you are up the tier, you can not play with your big toys without losing ingame money unless you have a premium account.
Spideradam26@reddit
Original NES castlevania stage design
Italian_Devil@reddit
That one was never good
lazerblam@reddit
Mass effect 3.
Niasny@reddit
Destiny 1 💎 -> Destiny 2 💩
bunker_man@reddit
Metaphor, lmao.
LooseLord@reddit
Dark souls 1 pre and post lordvessel
RogueThespian@reddit
Playing OSRS as an ironman and getting past the midgame. As soon as you get to prif all you have to look forward to is CG and raids
OneEyedThor@reddit
Farcry 6.
Fun shooter and then it just goes on for way too long
Alarmed-Risk7885@reddit
gayshit gaypact
Hollow_Effects@reddit
The riddler trophies in Arkham games
Sfortuna_macabra@reddit
War thunder
Previous_Fish4438@reddit
nearly every MOBA
not_nsfw_throwaway@reddit
That's every gacha game in general
ponzidreamer@reddit
dragon age inquisition, I loved the first 3/4 but the ending stretch I really lost interest
N1kBr0@reddit
HL1 on a rail segment
Rubmynippleplease@reddit
Ghost of Tsushima, first one at least. Decent story, well voice acted, gorgeous game, fun combat, and a massive open world filled with checklist garbage, trailing missions, and generic enemy camps.
Got to the second part of the island, realized I had another dozen hours minimum to slog through, and just closed the game and never opened it again.
ProRomanianThief@reddit
Counter Strike. Fucking loved Global Offensive. Tried a bunch to get into 2 and I just can't. It's genuinely such a shit game.
Aggressive-Egg-2710@reddit
FF7 REBIRTH