PPL Checkride
Posted by CreativeGanache8232@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 30 comments
I have my PPL Checkride coming up in a week and doing my final preparation just going over all things again and ive watched plenty of videos and read a lot and will continue to do both.
If anyone is willing to share what is a question that came up or 2 on your oral that kinda caught you off guard or maybe you found a little tricky?
Novel_Economics5828@reddit
Can you fly through a TFR? Whatever your answer is, prove it and explain your reasoning.
blacknessofthevoid@reddit
Yes, if the controlling agency, ATC, clears you.
Proof: ATC to me as a brand new pilot: turn heading 100 Me: there is a TFR ahead ATC: this is my airspace. Turn heading 100
randombrain@reddit
Correct but not fully correct.
blacknessofthevoid@reddit
Thank you for correcting my correct but not fully correct comment while also not entirely correct in the first place.
randombrain@reddit
Yeah. What I meant is that your comment is mostly correct, but it has caveats. Whereas I have an answer to this question that is 100% correct 100% of the time.
randombrain@reddit
What does my user flair mean to you?
dangern00dl@reddit
Study up on this one. Departure/approach in my area has two buckets when deciding whether to give you that bravo transition or flight following during busy times: high maintenance and low maintenance. Guess who’s getting the transition vs who has to fly around lol.
Related: My DPE went hard on flight plans (which I’d never filed) and flight service comms (also never done at the time). I successfully figured it out on the fly but yeah you should probably know it in advance of the ride lol.
randombrain@reddit
Yes, in busy airspace your radio work will have a big influence on whether we'll give you your request or make you fly around!
the_silent_one1984@reddit
After I showed him my student certificate he pointed to the wright brothers on the back and asked me which one was Wilbur and which was Orville.
He only let me stumble for a second before smiling and saying "I'm just messing with you. Let's preflight."
Vast-Negotiation9068@reddit
Just tell him Orville is the guy who sells the popcorn.
CreativeGanache8232@reddit (OP)
😂😂
__joel_t@reddit
During preight, with the cowl open (on a PA-28), the DPE pointed to what looked to me like a thick copper wire going into one of the cylinders and asked me what it was. I didn't know. (I still passed the checkride.)
Forsaken_Estimate_78@reddit
What was it?
blacknessofthevoid@reddit
Most likely copper tube, not wire. Fuel primer for starting the engine. Only primes one cylinder.
__joel_t@reddit
Exactly!
Womper-Womper@reddit
He didnt know :p
TxAggieMike@reddit
This is from Ron Levy, a very experienced flight instructor I had the privilege of knowing in my early days
Captain Ron said:
Relax and enjoy it. Nationwide, about 90% of applicants pass on the first try, so look around and see if you think you’re as good as 9 out of 10 other students. Also, your instructor desires to maintain a pass rate of at least 80% in order to attain the FAA Gold Seal on his certificate. So he’s not going to send you up unless he’s pretty darn sure you’ll pass – otherwise, he has to find four other people to pass to make up for you, and that’s not always easy.
Go over with your instructor the logbooks of the aircraft you're going to use the day BEFORE the checkride to make sure it's all in order (annual, transponder checks, ELT ops and battery, 100-hour if rented, etc.). If the airplane's paper busts, so do you. Run a sample W&B, too – get the examiner’s weight when you make the appointment. If you weigh 200, and so does the examiner, don’t show up with a C-152 with full tanks and a 350 lb available cabin load – examiners can’t waive max gross weight limits.
Relax.
Rest up and get a good night's sleep the night before. Don't stay up "cramming."
Relax.
Read carefully the ENTIRE ACS including all the material in the Appendices. Use the checklist in the appendix to make sure you take all the stuff you need -- papers and equipment. And the examiner’s fee UP FRONT (too much chance a disgruntled applicant will refuse to pay afterward) in the form demanded by the examiner is a “required document” from a practical, if not FAA, standpoint.
Relax.
You’re going to make a big mistake somewhere. The examiner knows this will happen, and it doesn’t have to end the ride. What’s important is not whether you make a mistake, but how you deal with it – whether you recover and move on without letting it destroy your flying. Figure out where you are now, how to get to where you want to be, and then do what it takes to get there. That will save your checkride today and your butt later on.
Relax.
You're going to make some minor mistakes. Correct them yourself in a timely manner "so the outcome of the maneuver is never seriously in doubt" and you'll be OK. If you start to go high on your first steep turn and start a correction as you approach 100 feet high but top out at 110 high while making a smooth correction back to the requested altitude, don't sweat -- nail the next one and you'll pass with "flying colors" (a naval term, actually). If you see the maneuver will exceed parameters and not be smoothly recoverable, tell the examiner and knock it off before you go outside those parameters, and then re-initiate. That shows great sense, if not great skill, and judgement is the most critical item on the checkride.
Relax.
During the oral, you don’t have to answer from memory anything you’d have time to look up in reality. You never need to memorize and know everything. Categorize material as:
Things you must memorize (i.e. emergency procedures, radio calls, airspace, etc).
So if the examiner asks you about currency, it’s OK to open the FAR book to 61.56 and 61.57 and explain them to him. But make sure you know where the answer is without reading the whole FAR/AIM cover-to-cover. On the other hand, for stuff you’d have to know RIGHT NOW (e.g., best glide speed for engine failure, etc.), you’d best not stumble or stutter – know that stuff cold. Also, remember that the examiner will use the areas your knowledge test report says you missed as focus points in the oral, so study them extra thoroughly.
Relax.
Avoid this conversation:
Examiner - Q: Do you have a pencil?
Applicant - A: I have a #2, a mechanical, a red one...
Examiner - Q: Do you have a pencil?
Applicant - A: I also have an assortment of pens, and some highlighters...
Examiner - Q: Do you have a pencil?
Applicant - A: Yes.
Examiner - Thank you.
One of the hardest things to do when you’re nervous and pumped up is to shut up and answer the question. I've watched people talk themselves into a corner by incorrectly answering a question that was never asked, or by adding an incorrect appendix to the correct answer to the question that was. If the examiner wants more, he'll tell you.
Relax
Some questions are meant simply to test your knowledge, not your skill, even if they sound otherwise. If the examiner asks how far below the cloud deck you are, he is checking to see if you know the answer is “at least 500 feet,” not how good your depth perception is. He can’t tell any better than you can, and the only way to be sure is to climb up and see when you hit the bases, which for sure he won’t let you do.
Relax
Remember the first rule of Italian driving: "What's behind me is not important." Don't worry about how you did the last maneuver or question. If you didn't do it well enough, the examiner must notify you and terminate the checkride. If you are on the next one, forget the last one because it was good enough to pass. Focus on doing that next maneuver or answering the next question the best you can, because while it can still determine whether you pass or fail, the last one can’t anymore. If you get back to the office and he hasn't said you failed, smile to your friends as you walk in because you just passed.
Relax and enjoy your new license.
Ron Levy, ATP, CFI, Veteran of 11 license/rating checkrides, including 4 with FAA inspectors
ashtranscends@reddit
Are you allowed to fly after taking Claritin? Where would you find the answer to this?
Where can you find the highest natural terrain on any sectional without having to hunt through all the MEFs?
What would you do if your elevator jammed on final?
TxAggieMike@reddit
Take the stairs?
Forsaken_Estimate_78@reddit
I know this may sound obvious... but make sure you know airspace inside and out.
At the end of the oral, the DPE asked me very basic airspace questions and I messed up. I still passed, but I had just gotten confused between Echo/Golf Airspace and the heights/lateral boundaries of them. Make sure you know all of the airspace at a certain point from the ground up to 18,000' and know where to look it up. My DPE didn't really let me look at the FAR/AIM for most of the ride because these were basic questions. Good luck!
Cont4x@reddit
“What’s the maximum xwind for our aircraft”
“15kts”
“Would you fly with those conditions?”
“It’s perfectly legal, but I personally wouldn’t solo in them until I’m confident in my abilities”
He liked that answer. He was my schools examiner and instructor, so he taught me many things through to CPL. He was strongly for ensuring future pilots had a pragmatic mindset and honest opinion of their own abilities.
Just because something is legal, doesn’t mean it’s the smartest or safest idea
randombrain@reddit
You're at Lafayette Regional Airport (LFT). How do you set up flight following?
You're at Hammond Northshore Airport (HDC). How do you set up flight following?
You're at Concordia Parish Airport (0R4). How do you set up flight following?
bgrant902@reddit
Your stump the chump questions are always the best. Hats off to you sir/ma’am.
Middle_Arm9147@reddit
I’ve got mine in a week too, how do you feel about yours
randombrain@reddit
It's obvious that flying into IMC—into a cloud—is dangerous to a VFR pilot's health. But 91.155 doesn't just say "don't fly into clouds;" it's more restrictive than that. Why?
When you reach 10,000', the buffer around clouds increases. Why?
But in Class B airspace, and in any surface area if you have an SVFR clearance, the buffer drops to nothing and the rule is "don't fly into clouds." Why?
randombrain@reddit
How do you 1) legally and 2) safely fly through:
Mountain-Captain-396@reddit
Here's one that my examiner asked me - How short is too short of a runway for you?
CreativeGanache8232@reddit (OP)
Was the answer your examiner was looking for based on personal minimums or actual aircraft performance
Mountain-Captain-396@reddit
Both, he wanted to know that I knew how to calculate my TOLD as well as trying to see what I would be comfortable with
rFlyingTower@reddit
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I have my PPL Checkride coming up in a week and doing my final preparation just going over all things again and ive watched plenty of videos and read a lot and will continue to do both.
If anyone is willing to share what is a question that came up or 2 on your oral that kinda caught you off guard or maybe you found a little tricky?
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