Any San Francisco sailors willing to be a mentor?
Posted by UniDBD@reddit | sailing | View on Reddit | 29 comments
Hello! I recently moved to San Francisco, and one of my goals for the summer is to improve my sailing. When I was younger, I spent a few summers on the water in the Caribbean with my dad, and before moving to SF I had started practicing on a dinghy. I’d love to find a mentor who could teach me more. Not just technical sailing skills, but also wind, weather, navigation basics.
I’d also just like to meet people in SF who are passionate about sailing. :)
A little about me: I’m 27F, work in corporate shenanigans, but am more of a science nerd at heart. I like reading on the beach at sunset, surfing, and snowboarding in the winter. I don’t take myself too seriously, and I really enjoy learning from others, be it sailing advice or just hearing about their unique experiences and perspectives.
\~ Thank you in advance \~
FriendShapedStranger@reddit
Do you know what kind of sailing you want to do? DM me. I'm in SoCal but my boat is in Richmond and I know a lot of people up there. I sail a small race boat in a very competitive fleet. If you're interested in sailing with other women, I know a few!
anteup@reddit
We race weekly on Friday nights on a boat out of the Fisherman's Wharf area. All of our crew is under 40, so we stand out a bit at the yacht club. DM me for more info.
UniDBD@reddit (OP)
Sent a DM :) Thank you!
dripppydripdrop@reddit
Modern Sailing in Sausalito! Great club, fun people, younger crowd as someone mentioned. They also have a Berkeley location.
They do regular (multiple times per week) “Club Sails” where you get on a boat w/ a few other people + an experienced skipper and just get out on the Bay. They do other events as well.
Their school is great if you’re interested in taking classes.
They have a nice fleet of boats (at varying price points) if you wanted to ever charter.
They have a race program as well if that interests you.
I had never sailed before I joined Modern and now I’m ASA 101/103/104 qualified and regularly chartering boats on the Bay with my friends. Not the cheapest, but well worth it IMO.
evilted@reddit
I took ASA 101 at Tradewinds and they have a "reasonable" membership system. It pencils out real quick if you get out on the water regularly. It's also real nice to hop aboard a boat that's maintained for you.
MissingGravitas@reddit
You will likely do much better with places already mentioned, but I'd still recommend to come here (or forums like CruisersForum) if you need more specific answers. This sub has some folk who are pretty solid, but the deep knowledge is often in forums.
Sail trim, reading water, etc is indeed best done in person, and you should find many capable people there (particularly in the racing crowd). See if you can find people familiar with the local currents and eddies, the current flow is not a simple "either ebbing or flooding"; there is often still water coming in even when the tide is ebbing, and similarly the height of tide is not exactly aligned with the ebb and flood. Largely this matters for racing, but it can help anytime you might want to make better progress.
You'll also want to factor the current into decisions like "when do I tack?" Otherwise, you'll tack too early and end up having to tack back and forth later. Don't worry, you'll eventually get a feel for it. You'll just learn faster once you know to watch for it!
As for "seamanship", exposure to a number of people and boats will help you identify what's good practice or not. A good general rule is to prep early and keep things tidy, because a task left for later has a high risk of becoming a blocker once something else becomes suddenly urgent.
What I'd particularly double-check is weather, navigation, and rules of the road. If you do racing you'll have a separate set to learn, with plenty of opportunity for rules-gaming. (Or so I'm told; I'm not really a racer.) Read the rules yourself; most people and texts will simplify them and get aspects wrong (often because they skip the definitions and don't realize certain phrases have particular meaning). For weather, always look a few days beyond your planned trip: often a "wrong" forecast is simply a case of the weather arriving earlier or later than expected.
Some other thoughts/resources:
Ah... Ok, I think that's enough typing for now.
^1 There are efforts to resurrect this in the form of Group Nautique, thus retaining some of the boats, instructors, and community. One of the key reasons I'm interested is that it would be one of the few options to charter boats and go up and down the coast. Two other ex-CN boat owners have formed Pacific Wayfinder Sailing Academy out of Alameda with ex-CN instructors; ideally both will be doing classes over the summer and expanding offerings over the coming years.
RedditIsRectalCancer@reddit
Are you willing to pay for their time? I can't believe people think it's okay to ask for hundreds of hours of someone's time without offering anything in exchange. They have things for this, they're called sailing schools.
Sambal_Oelek@reddit
Friendships and mentorships have been around a lot longer than schools. These are the best ways to pass on skills to a new generation. Sailing is a dying skill, for it to survive, the barriers to entry need to be lowered. You may be selfish and unwilling to pass along knowledge without being paid, but others enjoy being generous by passing along what they've learned over the years.
throwleboomerang@reddit
Nobody offered to pay you to be rude to someone politely asking for help and yet here you are volunteering your time…
RedditIsRectalCancer@reddit
First hour is free, shithead.
UniDBD@reddit (OP)
Hi Rectal Cancer, I did not ask someone to dedicate hundreds of hours of their life to me. I asked about making new friends in a new city whom I could learn from and have shared interests ;). But hey listen, I'm willing to pay for your colonoscopy in exchange for your time.
RedditIsRectalCancer@reddit
You 100% did:
>I’d love to find a mentor who could teach me more. Not just technical sailing skills, but also wind, weather, navigation basics.
That is not a trivial request. Weather is a complicated subject by itself. You can't claim after the fact you weren't asking for that just because you don't understand how big of an ask it is. The looking for friends comment was thrown in after the fact, almost as an afterthought.
SailingVelo@reddit
I own a 42' boat on the SF bay (Brisbane, SPYC) and have no problem with people asking for time on the water. Some of my best crew started out as total novices, and bringing new blood into the sport is always a worthy cause. I expect people to take every opportunity to self-study, but a good attitude, basic mobility and strength, and an ability to follow instructions is about all I require of potential crew.
the_mustard_king@reddit
Cal sailing school is great! They will also teach you windsurfing if you care to learn as well. They don’t do certifications if you care about that, but for most that kind of thing doesn’t matter.
Depending on where you are, whatever marina/YC will probably have a weeknight race they do and they are almost always going to let you crew someone’s boat, I’d race mine but its super slow, so I usually hop on someone else’s. If you’re in the city I know Sierra Point YC (Brisbane) and Coyote Point YC (San Mateo) do Tuesday and Wednesday night races, respectively. You can also join them without a boat and get to know people, but at least at first just email them or reach out then they will link you to someone. They are also pretty chill about it
That being said I have a boat down in San Mateo, and if you (or any Bay Area sailors on the thread) want to go sailing DM me! Always down to go for a sail
bobber18@reddit
Buy a boat and I’ll help you.
Contract_Historical@reddit
Following. Also 27 who recently moved to SF looking to learn sail in the Bay Area
NarcisSisyphusRankin@reddit
Cal Sailing Club in Berkeley is the answer
Fickle-Ad-4417@reddit
Cal sailing school is great, super affordable and will learn a ton
UniDBD@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much for the rec :)
Iarwain_Benj-adar@reddit
Yeah I’m sailing up for their junior dinghy course over the summer! Let’s learn!! My goal is to get a dinghy and recreate Roger Barnes’ approach to dinghy cruising in the delta
UniDBD@reddit (OP)
Yes we can be newbies together, I'll dm you my info!
Iarwain_Benj-adar@reddit
I’d also say, if you get known at CSC it’s a super easy jump over to crewing with Berkeley yacht club during their Friday evening races. Lots of fun, super lovely folks + cheapest bar I’ve found in the bay (and not a bad view)
velvethammer125@reddit
I think step one is getting out on the water. Richmond YC has Wednesday night races all summer, walk the docks and hope on a boat. Bring a lifejacket. Corinthian YC also has Friday night races and you could get on a boat at either the Corinthian YC or the San Francisco YC (in Belvedere for some reason)
This will help you meet a skipper and team that you want to be apart. From there in time you will meet other boats and grow in the skill you are looking for. The Latitude 38 crew party is also a really good option.
All the best, hope to see you on the water soon.,
chunklight@reddit
100% agree about Richmond yacht club wedn night races. Very welcoming to newcomers and the race organizers will help you find a boat.
OP, just show up a little early and bring some beer in cans to share. You'll have a great time.
UniDBD@reddit (OP)
Thank you both for the advice :) it sounds so friendly there, I will be sure to try this with a 12 pack for the crew haha!
mrpotatito@reddit
you should join a club/school! Modern Sailing is good and has couple of locations, crowd is younger than other clubs too
Linsten@reddit
If you are in sf proper reach out to South Beach YC for Friday night racing.
liaisontosuccess@reddit
look up latitude38.com , it is a nautical magazine based out of SF Bay, with a global perspective, been around 50 years, has crew parties and lots of good articles from racing, cruising, etc, etc.
WaterChicken007@reddit
Join a sailing club. Take some lessons. Maybe try to join the regular sailboat racing league.