Croatia tore on Eurovision tonight - my vote will go to them. Which Balkan country do you think performed best tonight?

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Hot_Accident196@reddit

Unfortunately the music for the song is stolen from Bulgarian artists - Molec and Mystery of the Bulgarian voices.

Croatian singers are creative and sing good, but this is not original and not moral.

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-Passenger-@reddit

didnt watched it, but my great grandmother had the same tattoos lol

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Substratas@reddit (OP)

They’re stunning - in Northern Albania we have the ancient tattoo tradition too (with very similar looking ones).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_traditional_tattooing

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WalkKeeper@reddit

So cool! This reminds me of Deq from the Yazidi people in South Turkey / old Assyria

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I don’t want to say anything controversial because Balkan people are very sensitive but I’ve noticed a pattern through history, where many ideas, practices, etc, came to the Balkans (and later to the world) from the Middle East.

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WalkKeeper@reddit

As a Portuguese (and therefore a proxy-Balkan) I see the same from northern Africa, language, architecture even peoples looks in some regions

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-Passenger-@reddit

our women historically wore them because of the Ottomans, thats why they have Christian symbols.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicanje

yours are actually really similar...

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technotronica@reddit

That's not true, it's much older. Its an old Illyrian tradition. Sicanje.

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-Passenger-@reddit

aahh the Yugo Herpes has arrived

lol not true I actually provided you the link where you can look it up

and both can be true isnt it, that its an old Illyrian tradition which evolved over time and that our women did it for the mentioned reason

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driftstyle28@reddit

Love how the diaspora Croat from Germany shouts "Yugo Herpes"

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-Passenger-@reddit

Glad you liked it

Stay tuned, will do it again

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driftstyle28@reddit

An Ustasha always ran from the Partisan :)

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technotronica@reddit

You can lol how much you want but it's simply factual. It's older than Christianity. It's pagan, Illyrian and maybe older than Illyrian, who knows. I can sense if something feels off, meaning when something stinks of fascistoid myths and false victimhood narratives. See those minds don't care about history, beauty or culture. They only pick it up when it's an excellent useful tool to abuse for their own wicked reasons to spew hate and demonize "the other" spooky sounds

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-Passenger-@reddit

sure man, its factual because you said it. wait I change my mind real quick because I trust you. lmfao

I provided you with the link, there is the Croatian version...

you provided "I can smell fascistoid" you can smell shit, you are paranoid and now odjebi slobodno

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Traditional_Top9730@reddit

Leave it to a Croat living in Njemačka to make himself look like a dick. Nice

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AgisXIV@reddit

Facial tattoos existing to prevent sexual assault from colonisers and invaders is a widespread myth though - you hear the same in North Africa, but the historical record suggests it's much older, and doesn't have any connection

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-Passenger-@reddit

i am sure you are not the first time wrong

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Ujemegaz@reddit

No we are not from the same people. Slavs came here and pushed the locals more to the south. Tatoos don't mean much. Many youngsters nowadays wear Japanase scripts as tatoos.

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technotronica@reddit

Read some history. Slavs didn't "come" nowhere. Yugoslavs are mainly haplogroup I2, the only native European haplogroup. Our ancestors vlachs were romance speaking and they were formerly Illyric. Language shift doesn't mean DNA change. You can't claim Illyrians for yourself only.

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Ujemegaz@reddit

Chauvinism can't change the fact that we were here before Slavs.

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Nullen-Protocol@reddit

But you are surrounded by Slavs❤️‍🔥 approx. 20 million just in the Balkans. The 6th century was 1,400 years ago 😅 and many nations were passing through this region. Get over it 🚬

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technotronica@reddit

As mentioned before. Language doesn't change ancestry and someones "autochthonousness". How come we have the oldest European ancestry and you have north African? Don't play a game you can't win with your lame arguments.

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Ujemegaz@reddit

Language is the only defining feature.

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Professional-Fee-488@reddit

Oh lord, it's you again. What does that statement of yours even mean man? Can't you see how the fact that you're clinging to "our language is the oldest which means we were here first" narrative with your dear life doesn't paint a very positive picture about you, and it sure as hell doesn't convince anyone with more than 30 gray cells outside of Abania of your fairytale ancestry. There's over a 150 language isolates in use today, and as far as I know albanians are the only ones who claim how that actually means it precedes all others in the area thus giving you an imaginary right to claim any territory where there's more than 10 albanians as your own, Macedonia, Montenegro, Greece, Serbia.....while in reality it those arbitrary interpretations of yours only serves as a fuel for your nationalistic ideologies.

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Ujemegaz@reddit

Should i change the language so that you see me positively 🤔 i am afraid i can't do that.

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Professional-Fee-488@reddit

No man, don't get me wrong, I don't actually have a negative opinion of you at all, you seem civilized, all good.

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Ujemegaz@reddit

I never claimed that Albanian is a product of civilization, but we cling to it nevertheless, because no coming hordes managed to take such language from us.

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Professional-Fee-488@reddit

I can respect that stance. And yes, maybe I was a bit overgeneralizing you based on what your more nationalistically inclined countrymen write on here, so perhaps my message was more aimed at those people, but of course not everyone's the same, and God knows Serbia has those people as well.....as do all Balkan states in the end.

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technotronica@reddit

Okay so the French are invaders from Rome? They're not autochthonous to their land? The English are invaders that came from Denmark? Seriously....

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Ujemegaz@reddit

You're one funny fellow.

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technotronica@reddit

You need to understand that we are older than all our languages and identities that have changed through out of if history so many times. Our ancestors lived in Europe before any IndoEuropean language spread here. Your forefathers lived in your area before you spoke Albanian, Illyrian, Celtic, whatever. Even Greeks were something before they became Greeks. The people that the Greek encountered when they arrived to the Balkans didn't dissapear, they got absorbed and lived on with a new identity. Greeks are not invaders. It's absurd. You want to paint us as some "invaders" which is false and dangerous simplification. And even if we were that, hello? We lived here since the early 600's. Get real.

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technotronica@reddit

No we are not. Illyrians were described as giants, tall. Not looking like Arabs.

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Divisive_Ass@reddit

Any reason you jumped over herzegovina with that cope?

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technotronica@reddit

Actually yes. According to what I can find online this sikanje thing seems to mainly have occured in central Bosnia. Jajce area. Not in Herzegovina and not in northern Bosnia. So seems to be an isolate relic and not a " turk rape repellant" like some want to claim.

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Green_Money_7688@reddit

I don't know where you read that, the historical and anthropological consensus.

This paper from 2019 This paper from 2019 talks about it and in it's abstract literally says in the second sentance while explaining sicanje/bocanje "Rooted in the socio-political context marked by the rule of the Ottoman Empire (16th–19th century), it was believed that the symbols would offer protection against kidnapping by the Turks."

Same for another I could find from the Romanian Journal of Ethnogrpahy and Folklore about the Vlachs paper where it also says immeaditly" The tattooing of the Aromanians is part of the Balkan tradition of Christian communities under Muslim rule, who tattooed their girls at a young age – according to formalized oral texts – in order not to be stolen and taken to the harems of the Turks."

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CedasL@reddit

I can testify to several villages in Herzegovina where almost every granny I knew as a kid had them. It was very much present in Herzegovina, I have younger relatives who literally copied our grandmothers tattos in her memory. You are factually incorrect.

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technotronica@reddit

Okay, thanks

Here is the most comprehensive article on this on Wikipedia and you're right it mentions Herzegovina as well

https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bocanje

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Divisive_Ass@reddit

Of course. I must have hallucinated. SB,BS wikis are an excellent source of factual information.

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technotronica@reddit

Objectively the Bosnian version is the most detailed and comprehensive on this. And no it's not biased. The Croatian version is crap.

https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bocanje

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atzitzi@reddit

That was great info, I had no idea. Eurovision can be educational😊

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-Passenger-@reddit

appreciate it and glad you like it

i dont follow Eurovision and didnt know that our girls wore these symbols and by seeing this thread they looked familiar to me...

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NOTExETON@reddit

Its a relic from our shared illyrian past

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No-Search3016@reddit

I am from Northern Albania and didn’t know this was a thing. Thanks for educating me on this one! They are sick indeed!

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Ujemegaz@reddit

Because with war on religion in the 1960s, such practices were deemed as backward and throughtly condemned and denounced.

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Substratas@reddit (OP)

They truly are! 😍

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starxidiamou@reddit

Those 10-13 tattoos certainly are interesting, especially as they’re labeled for Muslims, and even more especially as I’ve heard it didn’t become a symbol for another group until this political ideological movement

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Substratas@reddit (OP)

True, in Albania both catholics & muslims had them (unlike in Croatia & Bosnia).

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NOTExETON@reddit

Same lol

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Last_Auslender@reddit

I was rooting for Andromeda then I heard Ferto and learned new Greek word of the day

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Last_Auslender@reddit

Was also suprised Serbia sent Metal Band on Eurosong instead of again reincarnation of Joksimovic puppets

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ChrisRedfield696969@reddit

People still watching Eurovision?

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O_945@reddit

I used to watch it religiously until the boycott last year. In 2026 I haven't even checked the song representing my country.

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DinoTh3Dinosaur@reddit

Give 300k is more than 1 people, yes.

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PotentialBass3073@reddit

300k watching the live on YT actually

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CustardPresent3691@reddit

Fuck the Eurovision 🖕🏼

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vampirats@reddit

I don't even know which countries are in lol. I've clocked out because I feel like it's not what it used to be anymore. Last year there was suspected votes rigging and a country that isn't even European is participating to avert people's eyes from the genocide they have been doing. It's all gone to shit...

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Envinyatar123@reddit

🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸

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amazingamy19@reddit

I so wish you made it!

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Savings_Dragonfly806@reddit

Man I forgot about Eurovision to be honest.

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Aakkii_@reddit

You are probably not married

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Savings_Dragonfly806@reddit

What's that supposed to mean?

And yes you are right, I'm 17.

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Substantial_Word_488@reddit

I guess he meant women like eurovision

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NixarDixar@reddit

Im engaged and i forgot about it and i watched it every year till now

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ConclusiveRemnant@reddit

I am married and I too forgot about the Eurovision..

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No-Telephone-9601@reddit

Slovenia performed the best - by boycotting.

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riesen_Bonobo@reddit

Based, sadly my nation and gov has no spine

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Shihandono@reddit

Haven’t your country already done enough for Jews and Israel?

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Substantial_Word_488@reddit

Ohh they really did a lot for them lol

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projectpat901@reddit

Have a 1000 upvotes. This lame folklore “oh we have it so tough” feminist crap is a pile of steaming shit

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VenusHalley@reddit

Don't cut yourself on all the edge

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phatprick@reddit

Dude, do you even know what the song is about?

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Substratas@reddit (OP)

https://i.redd.it/xkcbu3t1ft0h1.gif

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ArtBIT@reddit

Slovenia already won.

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Reasonable-Class3728@reddit

Based femboys.

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GlitteringLocality@reddit

I am not watching this year either.

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Feidhlim_de_Rovno@reddit

Bosnia too - by having BHRT on verge of bankruptcy thus not having money to participate

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Annalise77@reddit

Macedonia too, I wish someone in charge would have had the balls and said the boycott is for the right reasons, like Slovenia, but we don't have that luck :(

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marul_@reddit

Turkey saw the future and dropped out 15 years ago

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Schmutzschutzigen@reddit

Croat here. You're right.

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BI_OS@reddit

Laibach just released their new album that did Eurovision style music. No need to actually show up when you dropped the mic.

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Glittering_Sky8258@reddit

Only valid answer!

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sasvim_nebitan@reddit

Serbia and Croatia, ofc

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trisul-108@reddit

The Croatia song had much deeper meaning, especially in this time of war in Europe. It was history and human suffering ... as opposed to just another love obsession.

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Nullen-Protocol@reddit

Serbia and Croatia 🔥 And for the first time, I don't like the greek song, only the meaning behind its lyrics.

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trisul-108@reddit

The Croatia song had much deeper meaning, especially in this time of war in Europe.

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Sashpeto@reddit

Eurovision was tonight ???

I tough it's in a few months

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Practical_Music_9377@reddit

Rant:

Althou I watched it, I turned off the stream when Israel was performing. They aint even part of the Europe as a continent.

Australia bs as well, plus that “we go to finals cuz we are the founders” shit is ridiculous. Then just say for example Germany is no.1 each year and “rest of us” are competing for second place - yeah that would be ridiculous wouldnt it - same as the current system they have in place, its a joke.

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Minodoro@reddit

I had no idea Eurovision was last night. Tsk. I wanted to watch.

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Engineer_engifar666@reddit

there is a eurovision tonight? who cares anymore. All I know is that Hungary is not there becasue they think it's too gay

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enilix@reddit

Lmao why are people in the comments so bitter? Literally millions of people still watch the Eurovision, so the virtue signalling in here is hilarious.

Anyway, apart from Croatia and Serbia, my favourite was Moldova. I also feel bad Montenegro didn't go through.

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amazingamy19@reddit

Same, Serbia and Croatia a felt bad for Montenegro.

They actually had decent song and a good performance.

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OkoMushrooom@reddit

Croatia tried to work some magic and it was beautiful and powerful but it didn’t really go anywhere. Montenegro gave genuine effort and it was felt, Serbia probably my favorite because I love the genre, the fire, the costumes and the guitars and the thought out lyrics with a deep message that was personal.

But at the end of the day I think Poland and Finland really were going head to head.

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NikkS97@reddit

Fuck Eurovision and I'm not watching this year, but

Lavina's lyrics is what I actually dislike about the song. Another pathetic, shallow love song without any hidden or deep meaning

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syndhromeofsomething@reddit

Firstly, songs can be fun and people can enjoy them without some profound meaning behind.

On the other hand, even though Lavina's song started as a love song, the band said it transformed and while writing they realised it is much more connected to their relationship with their music career. They have been giving it their all, but it wasn't paying off.

Moreover, a lot of people find different meanings within the song, like their relationship with the religion.

Also I never understood why people characterise anything to do with love and romance as shallow. As if love isn't one of the main reasons we stay alive and enjoy life.

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NikkS97@reddit

I know songs can be fun and don't need to have a deeper meaning. With this one, it just sticks out too much for me personally, because all other aspects of the songs are much better, so the lyrics feel a bit of an afterthought to me. I'm not necessarily being objective here, nor was I trying to imply that, so no need to explain all of that to me.

Also not everything with love and romance is shallow, but these lyrics are very upfront about the theme, there's no figure of speech of any kind, nothing but literal theme of the song.

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OkoMushrooom@reddit

Ja još ti čuvam mesto kraj sebе
A ova jednostrana ljubav ubija me

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kerobob@reddit

Croats were shitting on the song from what I have seen online.

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SentenceTop1585@reddit

Croats larping as yugoslavs

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Substratas@reddit (OP)

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TragicGloom@reddit

Didn't watch it. I'm boycotting like any sane person with morals is.

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harryweins@reddit

Why are you not boycotting?

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ExoticAd7546@reddit

Moldova, Greece, Croatia

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MWeHLgp1t4Q@reddit

If we all voted for the Balkan countries, we could outshine the Northern Alliance (Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Germany, and Finland). If we, as Balkans, were united, we could win every Eurovision contest since it’s a vote by country, not by the number of voters.

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MWeHLgp1t4Q@reddit

SERBIA !!!!

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Prudent-Werewolf3712@reddit

“As you light a candle, ask your grandmother Why she gave birth to her daughter in fear Why so many chose the grave Our mothers did not give birth to slaves

So many tears have flowed like a river Why is history written all over again Our sons are not subjects Are screams from the cradle waking you up at night

Lead me to the stars, to the shattered nests There where, amid screams they send off soldiers Lead me to the stars, far from all eyes Andromeda

All the scars carved down to the bone No mother will forgive you On the table of shame, the gold from necklaces While they wash their hands in the blood of our wounds

[Bridge] Traitors Traitors Traitors Traitors

Take me for yourself, Queen Earth The soul is yours, to them I'm a body”

This is art and it‘s a not so very subtle reference to history repeating itself.

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deusexmachina_lol@reddit

They were amazing, I voted for them and Moldova

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deviendrais@reddit

I think Eurovision is horse shit and I don’t respect people who watch it

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FatterPanda@reddit

why?

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Mean_Improvement_814@reddit

Slovenia, and it’s not even close.

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Shihandono@reddit

A country which never developed from the Middel ages.

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TurinTurambarSl@reddit

🤣🤣

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Optimal-Medium491@reddit

Ain't losing any sleep about it, didn't even know it was on

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istefan24@reddit

TIL Eurovision is still a thing.

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BeatnologicalMNE@reddit

Croatia was amazing but I wish more countries woyld boycott this shit of a shitshow that's beyond corrupt.

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isthistaken_no@reddit

slovenia. because they boycotted that genocide-supporting shitshow

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bleta_punetore@reddit

Eurovomit!

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DuePositive8957@reddit

Israel. The best Balkan country. The best European country on the Eurovision. Irony aside, fuck eurovision for the shit they allow for israel. I’d love to see Turkey perform tonight but I know it’ll not be fair to us or any other nation because of them

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Shihandono@reddit

Turkey only did well due to diaspora voting so if any country cheats, it’s Turkey.

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og_toe@reddit

they really let 5 countries go just so israel could sing

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CarPlane5196@reddit

Eurovision has been a country popularity and friendship contest for years. Why does anyone even try to act like its about performance and music?

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geridondumamk@reddit

Boycotting

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_IlDottore_@reddit

Wow 😂 can't believe people are still watching this shit. What's the political topic this year?

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Koravski@reddit

I see that criteria is still low

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Pinkninja11@reddit

I've watched 13 out of the 15 songs and to me, anything but Finland was hot garbage. Croatia had great costumes and face paint, the song was Meh.

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bloodthirstyshrimp@reddit

Will not watch while the genociders participate, fuck the ebu

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CajOdShamarelice@reddit

I like the song but it's not Eurovision material if you ask me

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Aakkii_@reddit

Portugal was my fav among Balkan countries

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AppropriateRadish928@reddit

I don't care because Israel is nothing more than a terrorist organization.

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JinxyMcDeath48@reddit

Says a guy from the US. The irony.

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AppropriateRadish928@reddit

At least the US is a legitimate country. Israel's not even that.

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JinxyMcDeath48@reddit

Israel is an internationally recognized country. Even by its haters. So denying reality because you disagree with it only makes you look strange.

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AppropriateRadish928@reddit

Strange, yes, but ahead of the curve.

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amazingamy19@reddit

Croatia.

I liked Italian song as well.

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technotronica@reddit

What happened to the Italian song? It was amazing. It wasn't even included at the voting...

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Distinct-Beach3581@reddit

They are already in finals, 5 countries are always in finals, UK, Italy, Germany, France and Spain

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technotronica@reddit

What? Always in the finals? Like some permanent security council members...

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Distinct-Beach3581@reddit

“The "Big Five" in the Eurovision Song Contest—France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and the United Kingdom are the nations that make the largest financial contributions to the European Broadcasting Union (EBU). Consequently, they automatically qualify for the Grand Final annually, bypassing the two semi-finals.”

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amazingamy19@reddit

… am I mistaken. Have they been in this semis? The guy who looked tanned af..

I haven’t really paid much attention who made it to the final, except for us.

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technotronica@reddit

Literally I think that was an "between act" or something. But I clearly remember it saying "Italy". It was fantastic, my favourite song. Seems to be a glitch in reality. Mandela effect 😵‍💫

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Remarkable_Mina@reddit

6 countries go directly into the final. The Big 5 (Germany, UK, Italy, Spain and France), plus as sixth the last year's winner.

The Big 5 are bigest contributors financially, so they get this privilege. This year its without Spain, so the Big 5 are 4.

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userrr3@reddit

I honestly have mad respect for Bosnia not participating because they owe money to the EBU that they have no plans of every paying back.

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Substratas@reddit (OP)

Are you from Crete?

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userrr3@reddit

Why would you think that when my country is literally in my flair?

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flametonguez@reddit

Maybe he met a cretan with your name (username) and you're half Austrian - half cretan?

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Pale-Specific-5565@reddit

CROATIAAAA

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Worldly_Tea_8300@reddit

I loved Croatia's set aesthetic-- it felt very different, almost like a fantasy novel cover brought to life (though I realize their topic is not fantasy at all). They were great!!

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Puzzled-Smoke-6349@reddit

Fuck Eurovision. Stupid shit anyway.

The radio charts show what people like to listen.

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Its_just_Zhivko@reddit

Bulgaria is great!

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dardan06@reddit

Not me having no clue there is Eurovision tonight

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kiko-o@reddit

It's the 1st semi final. The 2nd one will be on Thursday and the final on Saturday

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matcha544@reddit

Where do you watch? Asking from USA

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KostisPat257@reddit

We watch on our TVs lol

You guys could probably find livestreams

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Gaelenmyr@reddit

Youtube?

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racistpandaaa@reddit

yOuTuBe?¿?¿

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og_toe@reddit

youtube livestreams it

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peachpavlova@reddit

I had no clue either, I guess people say it is on YouTube

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racistpandaaa@reddit

moldova crushed it too bro. Loved the energy

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HeavyPriority6197@reddit

🫪🫪🫪🫪
Come to papa Serbia and well send some of your artists sometimes

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OverallPhrase4623@reddit

no we do that in Albania but thanks

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sakimusaki@reddit

Serbia and Croatia. Kidaju.

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Administrative_Fox0@reddit

Are people still watching this?

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RealShabanella@reddit

Boycott

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rooselloyd@reddit

slovenia by boycotting as someone else said it, other than that im biased on lavina (serbia) since they are from the same city as me and they are also a metal band (the song not as much but the band itself)

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MiaMiagichu@reddit

Slovenia 🇸🇮

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mexican_shawarma@reddit

The comically evil country.

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Much_Conflict7760@reddit

People still watch that garbage?

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shqipshqippp@reddit

so long as a genocidal state like israel is allowed to perform at eurovision, i couldn’t care less about it.

literally albania’s performance last year having a band from my hometown (shkodra) perform (and them being objectively great) made it worth any attention for me last year

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PluralCohomology@reddit

Boycott Eurovision

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Electrical_Waterbed@reddit

FERTOOO 🇬🇷 🇬🇷 🇬🇷

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og_toe@reddit

your username makes me shudder

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Affectionate_Yak1817@reddit

Moldova, Croatia and Serbia are my favourites

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og_toe@reddit

i love rap entries in eurovision. moldova was really fun

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matcha544@reddit

Where can I watch it? Asking from USA

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Winterreading2@reddit

Pretty sure you can watch it on yt , if not try vpn or peacock streams it

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Primary-Dust-3091@reddit

Fuck Eurovision.

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JimClarkKentHovind@reddit

Euro Fuckvision

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Glittering-Poet-2657@reddit

Vision Eurofuck!

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og_toe@reddit

Visions of Europe Fuck!

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Austerlitz2310@reddit

I'd watch that

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melovepumpum69@reddit

Fuck Your Vision

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Austerlitz2310@reddit

Thanks, now I need a new prescription

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One-Muscle-7495@reddit

Yeah leave the comically evil genocidal state alone!

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JeanDusapin@reddit

Nobody cared about Azerbaijan participating

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starxidiamou@reddit

Fuck Eurovision!

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naumovski-andrej@reddit

There was Eurovision tonight?

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YahwehIsKing7@reddit

So instead of answering the question you can hate on Eurovision and hate on Israel and get a million upvotes 🤷‍♂️

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Separate-Laugh-5543@reddit

Slovenia is a winner without a doubt…Free Palestine🇵🇸

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Ceyil@reddit

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Glittery_Marshmallow@reddit

I expected so much more from Croatia as I was in love with the song for a month. The stage was so meh and the camera work and the shots they chose were atrocious. It is so dated, just bad. It made me so sad.

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Substratas@reddit (OP)

That Slavic singing is what gives me the chills - I love it so much! Czech & other Slavic countries have had similar songs before and I was always mesmerized by them. Feels like forest spirits performing a ritual. 😍

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HovercraftExtreme869@reddit

Serbia was exceptional.

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Putrid_Speed_5138@reddit

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gk98s@reddit

boycotting art 🤡

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deviendrais@reddit

Calling Eurovision “art” omg. The west has fallen

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PotentialBass3073@reddit

Good thing we have Serbia, the most moral country in Europe!!

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deviendrais@reddit

Their only argument is always "Your country has committed a genocide too"

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PotentialBass3073@reddit

Freudian slip? I didn't even have to say anything and you assumed what I was talking about. You say "the west has fallen" like somehow Serbia is morally superior. If anything Serbia is a clear example of what being a crazy nationalistic warlord will do to your country when everyone else cooperates (not in NATO, EU).

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deviendrais@reddit

Why are you so mad? Did Romania fail to qualify for the finals?

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PotentialBass3073@reddit

I'm not mad, I'm actually glad Serbia qualified in the finals. You on the other hand look like smoke is coming out of all your orifices because of this event lol

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amazingamy19@reddit

And we were actually banned

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Putrid_Speed_5138@reddit

Classical "tu quoque".

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gk98s@reddit

Music is art no?

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Putrid_Speed_5138@reddit

Not all media is art.

So, not all music is art.

For instance, industrialized forms of music (from hyper-commercialized pop to elevator music and now the AI slop songs) are not considered art.

Corporations explicitly design these not for conscious aesthetic appreciation, but to unconsciously manipulate consumer behavior or modify environmental moods.

If a creator organizes sound exclusively for commercial utility or behavioral engineering rather than aesthetic engagement, it challenges the classification of that sound as art.

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plastic_situation123@reddit

you must be fun at parties

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Putrid_Speed_5138@reddit

Some say so, some dont

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deviendrais@reddit

Eurovision music isn’t art no especially not when it helps spread Israeli propaganda. It’s also created to be inoffensive, sanitised and appealing to the lowest common denominator making them laugh and clap like circus seals (Croatia’s song is good tho I like the group).

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gk98s@reddit

Any music is art, just because you dislike it doesn't mean it's not

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coleto22@reddit

Boycotting organizations that allow genocidal nations to push their propaganda.

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PotentialBass3073@reddit

How is Israel pushing propaganda? It's literally just a song about a girl

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plastic_situation123@reddit

you don’t get it, everything is israeli propaganda if you’re deranged enough

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gk98s@reddit

They're not executing palestinians on tv bro chill out they're just singing

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Putrid_Speed_5138@reddit

When Marlon Brando declined the Best Actor Oscar, was he boycotting art?

On representing anything artistic, Eurovision is not even on Hollywood's level. It's an entertaining circus at best and a cringe shitshow at worst.

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Sinirmanga@reddit

The ones who didn't participate.

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fortunestrike9@reddit

Fuck every single countries who attended Eurovision

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