Suburbs | TheaterFire

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Pyrimo@reddit

Shithole calls other shithole a shithole

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tayllerr@reddit

I honestly couldn’t give a fuck less what Europeans think.

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zrock44@reddit

Yeah I don't really wanna be crammed up next to my neighbor thanks

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homes in america built from 1910-1950s are generally well made. plaster walls, good lumber without plywood, easily updated. don’t compare to 1990s on and especially last 10 years. craftsmanship is awful and bad material with decaying plastics everywhere

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snrup1@reddit

In the northeast you still have plenty of well made homes from the mid-1800s.

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Kurt805@reddit

dutch talking about cuisine and culture

I lmao. Posted from his 200 person village that smells of goat shit... sorry, goat "refinement", while eating his regular slice of bread with cheese for dinner.

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snrup1@reddit

It's just so much Euro cope. Yeah right, everyone wants to live in a row house. I grew up in that and I have a house in the suburbs now. I'd pick this every single time.

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DreamsServedSoft@reddit

I can drive 3 hours to a city and get any cuisine from anywhere in the world without leaving the US and not have to worry about getting food poisoning

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Jimmie-Rustle12345@reddit

>I can drive 3 hours to a city

This has to be satire, right?

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scroogesscrotum@reddit

Yes, this is a post about suburban housing aka located on the outskirts of an urban area.

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purdinpopo@reddit

I'd they're in some states it could be four hours to get to a city.

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bunker_man@reddit

You have to be pretty far in the middle of nowhere to take four hours to get to a city. Only 20% of the population even constitute rural, and from what I gather its rare even for rural people to be more than a two hour drive from a city.

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purdinpopo@reddit

OP said they were three hours drive from a city with every kind of food. So it would need to be at least a population of 100,000. Maine, Montana, Nevada, Colorado, Nebraska, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, all have places that are four hours or more from a city over 100,000. This is just the lower 48 states. If you throw Alaska in you would have an even longer drive.

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bunker_man@reddit

Most of those places barely have anyone in them, so it's not plausible that op actually lives there and was bragging that three hours is a short drive.

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purdinpopo@reddit

Are you just arguing for the entertainment?

Just because a place is sparsely populated doesn't mean no one lives there. Internet reaches almost everywhere via cell towers. Internet reaches the entirety of the United States via satellite.

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bunker_man@reddit

Less population in a place does make it statistically less likely that any given person lives there yes. The point is that them bragging about a three hour drive read like a joke. No one in the ass middle of nowhere acts like they are connected because they can buy banh mi if they drive three hours.

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purdinpopo@reddit

From my house it takes 40 minutes to drive to a city over 100,000, where they do not have banh mi. To get to a city of over 300,000 where they do takes me three hours.

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not_pletterpet@reddit

3 hours and ill be dining in Paris. Basically a vacation at that point. You live in de middle of nowhere or what?

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Varangus@reddit

Imagine being so regarded you think this is actually impressive to anyone that is literate.

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WinglyBap@reddit

I get that with a 20 minute walk.

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ThrowFar_Far_Away@reddit

...All of Europe got that within an hour what's your point?

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NoSoundNoFury@reddit

Where the fuck do you live that the next major city is three hours away, lol. And where do you eat when you don't have six hours and fifty bucks for gas to spare, at a gas station?

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Conflictingview@reddit

I mean, that's true for basically all of Western Europe also

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meermaalsgeprobeerd@reddit

Yeah you're right, nothing to do or see here in Amsterdam, just goat farms! No need to come in ver and pretend you guys are Canadian.

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Kurt805@reddit

Are there Dutch people living in Amsterdam? Last time I was there it was more like a Disneyland for foreigners to get inebriated and look at old buildings. Nobody there actually spoke Dutch.

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ZyklonFart@reddit

goes to tourist attraction city

Shocked by tourists and English speakers

You people are idiots.

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HSakerF@reddit

Americans, but it's synonimous

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meermaalsgeprobeerd@reddit

Amsterdam is the best and people around the world are welcome to share in our Awesomeness. You didn't hear any Dutch because it's easier for us to speak english, german or french then it is for us to expect anyone else to speak dutch. We're just nice like that.

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mischling2543@reddit

I literally asked my waitress in Amsterdam how to pronounce something and she said she didn't speak Dutch. Went to a bar and same story. Left that fake-ass themepark the next day and found actual Dutch people in the countryside. Overall enjoyed Flanders way more though and it wasn't even close.

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GlitteringFutures@reddit

Yeah when I was there I visited Anne Frank's house and she wasn't even home.

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Varangus@reddit

And? Don't get me wrong, I would never ever defend the dutch, but you're really not offending anyone. Most sane people would take a quiet village that smells of manure over an overcrowed urban hellscape that smells of piss and pollution

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SgtDoggo1337@reddit

Dutch food is underrated.

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Jeffzie@reddit

It most fucking certainly is not.

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BulbuhTsar@reddit

I mean, I suppose fried everything can only be so bad.

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Cynical_Doggie@reddit

Obviously that is lunch. You eat something warm for dinner.

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Kurt805@reddit

Apologies. I assumed you were complete savages like the germans.

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multimodeviber@reddit

Both suck, city or countryside is the only way to go. Not this in between worst of both worlds shit

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tacobellbandit@reddit

I always find it weird how foreigners perceive an actual suburb vs. those big ass housing plans in like, Arizona or some shit where every house is the same. I grew up in an actual typical suburb and honestly it was great. All my friends close by, all the buildings were pretty nice and well maintained, dollar store was a short bike ride away and so was a plaza with a super market, Hollywood video, gym, etc. Once I started driving it was basically all just 2 lane road, and the interstate was only 10min away and I could be in the city in a half hour. It’s just a good in between for people who don’t want to live in the city but with the convenience of not being truly rural.

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squidbillygang@reddit

i also grew up in nice little suburb and moved to middle of nowhere. as much as i love doing whatever the fuck i want shooting guns and riding snowmobiles the thing i miss the most is just going for a short walk under the streetlights in the summer. playing ding dong ditch and being a degenerate with my stoner friends

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Averagebass@reddit

It's just 20 year olds on reddit obsessed with "city life". "omg theres so much to do in my big city I go to a bar and then another bar and see live music and go to another bar then go to my downtown apartment with 4 roommates who don't clean the sink and wait for my turn to use the bathroom!"

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Paradox@reddit

DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favourite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it’s got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and 50 square feet! we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i’m fuckin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another one!!!

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tacobellbandit@reddit

City living isn’t for everyone. I lived in Pittsburgh, and it was great but it gets old quick for sure. It’s nice when you’re young but once I was on my own and well established in my career I wasn’t interested in the city. I was more interested in getting my own place and my own car at that point along with some peace and quiet loo

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Papachococo@reddit (OP)

A big problem nowadays is demographics. I was born in 02 and in the 2000's and early 2010's had friends near by. But when my family moved to a new house that was within walking distance of a school, there was Noone around my age. Just all boomers. I thought this was the exception but it's becoming more common. People are having less kids, and boomers are buying up all the houses. They're kinda ruining suburbs.

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tacobellbandit@reddit

Yeahh my parents were literal boomers (they had me pretty late in life). I didn’t come around til the mid 90’s. I don’t think it’s boomers “buying up all the property” it’s just boomers and Gen X who bought houses in the suburbs, had kids, kids grew up and now they’re still occupying that 4 bedroom family home until they either go to a nursing home or pass away instead of downsizing and letting a young family move in, which kind of sucks

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riversofgore@reddit

It’s jealousy. Those planned suburbs are great too. Full of small families and a real neighborhood for kids to play in. Schools and stores close by. Parents don’t need to commute 2+ hours a day. Most kids would be lucky to grow up there.

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MisfitActual0311@reddit

I grew up in an idealic American suburb in the 1990's. Just before the internet and fucking cell phones. No one will ever convince me there was a better time and place to be alive in human history. Shame it all went to hell...... but what a time it was.

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tacobellbandit@reddit

Some of it for sure, but I don’t like to focus on that as much as I think it’s just misconceptions. The building quality ones are usually the big jealous indicators tho. A lot of the houses I’m referring to like my parents’ home aren’t even 40 years old yet so how are you going to determine the build quality yet lmao. Hell I prefer it, I bought a crazy old house from my family and their house is way easier to work on since it was built recently. You get into houses in rural America that had no building codes it’s a nightmare to work on, I’m the family handyman and IT guy essentially and I gladly work on my parents house lol

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riversofgore@reddit

I’m always wondering when these are gonna start falling apart. Where’s the bad ones exactly? My house was built in the 60s in a far from rich neighborhood. Built for working class people. They definitely didn’t use the highest quality materials. It’s fine. Only complaint is they painted over wallpaper at some point but that was a fad. Its cosmetic. I’ve lived in a 200yo house and it had more problems.

Pine 2x4s and Sheetrock aren’t new technology. Every house needs maintenance. Idc if you’re thatching 300yo roofs or replacing shingles. What house needs no maintenance?

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Marigold16@reddit

This is what the euro people are describing. Am Brit. You just described my childhood. Right down the the post war planned suburb

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CaterpillarLoud8071@reddit

Yeah that ain't a UK suburb, it's an inner city area, built for factory workers. UK suburbs have semi detached houses and a driveway.

They've also picked the greyest day and zoomed out so they look smaller and more cramped than they are. You can't see the shops and leisure facilities in walking distance. You can see a park though, so not so bad!

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wirelesswizard64@reddit

Yeah when I think UK suburb I think of the neighborhood Harry Potter grew up in, not this.

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Boba0514@reddit

>characterful

You see those red bricks, Sanjay? Do the needful and start laying them, try to make the houses look as depressing and inconvenient as possible.

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Katio13@reddit

The things the euros claim they want sounds like an actual prison life hell

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december151791@reddit

The bottom pic looks overcrowded as fuck.

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philmarcracken@reddit

The same americans that defend their mcmansions in isolated single story sprawl also greatly enjoy disneyland and cruise ships. While never connecting the dots on their walkability indexes

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I_POO_ON_GOATS@reddit

will collapse after 30 years of use

You are either extremely shitty at construction or you're full of shit

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Sp00ked123@reddit

Delectable Dutch cuisine such as raw herring and shitty french fries.

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Big_Appointment8248@reddit

Uk terrace houses are fucking shite . I have relatives who lived in them with like 4 kids and I absolutely dreaded going to their house

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Tony_Roiland@reddit

They aren't built to have 4 kids in them

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Marigold16@reddit

There were multiple kinds of terrace housing. Strange how houses come in different shapes and size. I grew up in a four bed terrace council house.

...the area was absolutely shite and crime was communal. But it was absolutely build to have 4 kids in them.

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Tony_Roiland@reddit

Who are you?

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theleetfox@reddit

Ronnie Pickering

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regimentIV@reddit

I think UK housing has been the butt of jokes from the European continent for decades now. I remember my dad joking about how the English working class lived in soulless brick houses that all look the same. I like the charm of them, but I can't imagine living in either of the two shown examples.

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Agent_Eggboy@reddit

It's dark and cold for over half the year in England, and living in a terraced house in a poor town is super depressing. That said, there are parks and greenery around, and shops a walkable distance. The buildings are built to last, and have character since some are very old.

Obviously living in a detached house in a wealthy American suburb is preferable to living in a small terraced house in the UK, but there's something strangely horrifying about living in an endless sprawl of identical newbuilds without a corner shop or communal space that you don't have to drive to get to.

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Averagebass@reddit

Oh no its 80 degrees outside and my brick house is 130 degrees inside since we don't have AC.

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NoSoundNoFury@reddit

People could just buy an ac if they wanted, lol. Even in the suburbs people have disposable income, you know. Imagine developing national pride about a 70 year old invention.

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DonnieMoistX@reddit

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/08/1152766

Hundreds of Thousands of Europeans die to the heat every year.

If they cannot afford one and aren’t buying it, they’re fucking morons.

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NoSoundNoFury@reddit

These are people in their 80s and 90s. You guys wouldn't understand because average life expectancy is about 79 in the US, "an all time high" right now, lol.

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DonnieMoistX@reddit

“We just let our elderly burn to death, you Americans wouldn’t understand” yeah man. You got us.

The highest European life expectancy is Switzerland at 84. I’d calm down about feeling so superior about it buddy lol

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NoSoundNoFury@reddit

On a more serious note, the difference is probably about how you diagnose the cause of death in the very elderly. I'm not a doctor but I can imagine that it's not easy to differentiate between possible causes of stroke and heart failure, given that elderly mostly have a couple of issues.

And, tbh, we're talking about the UK here. I don't think that one day of over 33°C back in 2024 did kill that many people, lol

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21onDec23@reddit

Not without rolling blackouts due to an outdated grid. Plus, the heat waves in the UK are usually standard hot summer days in the US. It doesn't typically get hit enough there to warrant everyone having AC.

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NoSoundNoFury@reddit

Just combine AC with PV. You need cooling when the sun's out, so you can use the sun's power to cool your home. This isn't rocket science, and it's not unaffordable either.

AC is a standard in the US because of different climate - and, because for some reason I never fully understood, Americans are apparently not bothered by the constant noise that most older ACs make.

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21onDec23@reddit

AC units are so cheap here that no one uses old ones. A 1-2 year old 12,000 BTU portable unit costs maybe $100 on Facebook marketplace, and that's plenty powerful enough for a big living area.

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NoSoundNoFury@reddit

I don't know too much about US private homes, but every time I'm in a hotel in the US, the AC is just constantly annoying and I always turn it off. Even in "better" hotels, like a Hilton.

5k was a broad estimate for 2x mid-level split heat pumps with PV.

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Cozy_Minty@reddit

Hotels use a different type of AC in order to have individual climate control in each room. Private homes usually have central air that isn't really that loud

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NoSoundNoFury@reddit

That makes sense, thx.

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Tony_Roiland@reddit

80 degrees would kill a person.

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purdinpopo@reddit

It was 92 degrees where I live yesterday.

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Tony_Roiland@reddit

No it wasn't.

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purdinpopo@reddit

Absolutely was, has an out of season heat wave last month, set a record it made it to 99 degrees. Had some tornadoes a few miles from my house. The had grapefruit sized hail south of where I live.

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Mrgumboshrimp@reddit

Obviously freedom units

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g_rated_pornstar@reddit

Most of us in the USA don't like living nut to butt, stacked right on top of each other, crammed in like a can of mackerel.

If you want that experience, live some place like Los Angeles or better yet New York City.

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BillianForsee94@reddit

“Mocked” for “buying a detached house?” Excuse me? In what world is a detached house not always the goal? Who the fuck does not want their own private space to live at least somewhat away from others? Insane

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DonnieMoistX@reddit

It’s a cope from people on places that will never be able to achieve a detached house.

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CroatInAKilt@reddit

American suburbs are pretty, but just a facade of matchstick housing and cookie-cutter lawns enforced by the HOA Gestapo, with zero amenities nearby.

British suburbs are infinitely more depressing, especially the council estates, like around Glasgow, where even in a clear sunny day, you will want to blow your brains out. But there's a sense of camaraderie, humour, and adventure, when you grow up living in a crime-ridden council estate. Could say the same of American ghettos and trailer parks.

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HefflumpGuy@reddit

I agree with the second to last guy, America sucks.

I only posted that for the downvotes by the way

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clippervictor@reddit

Bros, there are shitty developments in America as well as there are shitty terraced houses suburbs in the UK. That’s it. I’m a Europoor and I can’t fathom a house made of sticks and drywall but you do you. Some of your houses even being sticks and cardboard are amazing, that’s also true.

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clayticus@reddit

I like the diverse opinions.

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pai_mei_sensei@reddit

Both suburbs look nice to me

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UntBag@reddit

OP chose the nicer looking burbs, I dislike the newer burbs they give off that live action cat in the hat town setting without the colorful homes, it’s boring 🥱

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LooseButtPlug@reddit

Bong cope.

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ToaKraka@reddit

Fun fact: The official United Nations definition of "suburb" is an area with 300–1500 people per km^2 (780–3900 people per mi^(2)).

Also:

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Caligula-6@reddit

Its insane how much Europeans think we care about their opinions. Its like their every waking second is spent posting about how jealous of their stone houses americans are, theyre literally obsessed with us.

We really do not care about what yall have going on over there. We never think of you. Not a single freedom second is spent considering what europeans would do in this situation.

Also imagine having a straw roof that youre not allowed to change and you need permission to work on.

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Mojo_Mitts@reddit

So much many could be made by having at least one corner store within a Suburb Colony.

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SureExcuseMe@reddit

People created the suburbs to escape the effects of a particular act passed in 1964.

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bannabananabanna@reddit

rampant crime, rapes and garbage in the streets

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Coelachantiform@reddit

I would be inclined to believe you if "suburbanization" didn't occur outside the US around the same time.

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Papachococo@reddit (OP)

Suburbs were more so a post ww2 invention. So more like the 40s and 50s.

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soggybiscuit93@reddit

Suburbs are a wide category in the US. Some of the best places to live in the US are old, pre-war suburbs.

I recently visited Denver, and the outer suburbs around the city were so shit. A grid of highways, and in each grid square was a segmented HOA that had a ridiculous street designed like a maze and nothing but a bunch of copy-paste same houses.

Everything you'd want to do was a chain store in a strip mall with an oversized parking lot.

Old US suburbs are one continuous functional town. With a town center that has an old dense downtown, with density gradually tapering off as you get further from the down town. Neighborhoods are all interconnected and tree lined so getting from point A to B has 100 different methods and few require touching a highway at all.

Parks, local businesses, and schools are all strategically sprinkled around town so kids can actually walk to/from things.

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