Will you play the new uk lotto that is supposed to improve the ailing game?
Posted by Feeling-Ad6796@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 188 comments
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KaijuWasp@reddit
As things stand currently:
6 main numbers = Jackpot
5 main numbers and bonus = £1,000,000
5 main numbers = £1,750
4 main numbers = £140
3 main numbers = £30
2 main numbers = Lucky dip (equivalent of £2)
After the change:
6 main numbers = Jackpot (or half if there's also a jackpot winner in the other draw you didn't win the jackpot in)
5 main numbers and bonus = £1,000,000 (same as current)
5 main numbers = £1,000 (reduction of £750)
4 main numbers = £50 (reduction of £90)
3 main numbers = £10 (reduction of £20)
2 main numbers = £1 (equivalent reduction of £1)
I wouldn't be surprised if this kills off the Lotto draw entirely, and whomever came up with this idea is given the Old Yeller treatment.
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
Wait I'm confused. So you're saying the jackpot only gets split if there's a winner on each draw?
KaijuWasp@reddit
I've edited the comment to correct it (based upon the small print).
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
Ah right. In fairness the new game is somewhat okish they went and split the jackpot. The uk jackpots are usually small enough so having them just makes it completely shit now.
KaijuWasp@reddit
It's not really okayish, if it were then:
4 numbers would be £70
3 numbers would be £15
And those are the prizes people are statistically far more likely to win.
As a reminder, when the Lotto first launched the tickets were £1, there were fewer numbers (thus far easier to win), and the prize for three number back then was £10.
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
The fact that 2 people can both won a million though is good.
KaijuWasp@reddit
Two people can both win a million with the current system if there's enough in the jackpot. This new only advantages winners where:
jackpot/1,000,000 < jackpot winning tickets
Which is less likely in general to happen nowadays since the increase in numbers in the draw, but is more likely to occur if the draw result contains only numbers lower than 32 (due to the amount of people who play birthdays as their numbers).
garyk1968@reddit
Agreed, its always been poor value. I think most people would prefer more smaller prizes rather than 1 big bastard prize. irish lotto pays £150K for matching 5 numbers.
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
Is that Irish lotto in the bookies or the actual Irish lotto as they are 2 very different games ?
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
I think they should just return it to the old pre 2016 format. 1 in 14 million odds of winning. It's 1 in 45 million these days which is why it's never won.
wybird@reddit
Exactly, it needs to be differentiated from Euromillions. Lower prizes but easier to win.
Giant_Gaystacks@reddit
But nobody wants lower prizes. They changed a three ball win from £10 to £25 some years ago, because they recognised nobody was arsed about winning a tenner. They've improved on that by... letting us win two quid?
wybird@reddit
They could just make the top prize a million and increase the lower prizes. If people want the mega money they’ll go for the euromillions.
Giant_Gaystacks@reddit
If you want lower prizes that are easier to win, go buy a raffle ticket.
AirlineSevere7456@reddit
That's why Thunderball exists for smaller easier to win prizes.
Specialist-Opening69@reddit
Exactly this increases the odds massively and the tickets are £2 a line which is steep
opaqueentity@reddit
Especially when it’s £2.50 for Euromillions which regularly gets high
Hollywood-is-DOA@reddit
You are competing against a lot more people in the euro draw and that makes your chances of winning even smaller.
You also can’t play the euro million in another country, so you couldn’t buy a ticket in Germany and be paid out on the winnings. Someone recently took them to court over this, as he has a direct debit, that comes out weekly for the tickets.
Grimdotdotdot@reddit
The number of people playing has no bearing on your chances of winning.
gazchap@reddit
For the main draw and jackpot you’re right, but the guaranteed millionaire raffle thing is affected by ticket sales.
Grimdotdotdot@reddit
Just think how devestating a "GazChap Lottery Win" would be...
gazchap@reddit
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Whatiii@reddit
Don't worry you can win £1 back! What a win!
The previous where it was an extra ticket was a better reward.
Specialist-Opening69@reddit
A quid back for 1 in 3600 odds
lost_send_berries@reddit
There's two a week right? So if I played every draw this would happen about once in 5 years?? Whoop dee doo
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
How does it increase the odds? The odds stay the same really.
Specialist-Opening69@reddit
I’m saying they increased the numbers from 0-50 to 0-59 which increased the odds
TigInox@reddit
wasn't it originally 49 balls?
Eeveevolve@reddit
Well. 48. There wasn't a zero. But now there are 58 balls, the odds of winning went from 1 in 14 million to 1 in 45 million.
Hence why there's rollover after rollover after rollovers.
DesLynam@reddit
1 is 1, 49 is 49
Eeveevolve@reddit
Well i fucked that up. Sounded good in my head.
JSweetieNerd@reddit
The rare anti off by one error
carl84@reddit
Alright Vorderman!
asterallt@reddit
I read this as Volderman and thought it was some sort of Harry Potter Countdown mashup. I was well into it for about three seconds until I read it properly.
kopp9988@reddit
I just straight up read it as Voldemort
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
I get you. You spoke in present tense so confused me.
will2089@reddit
I’ve stopped playing the Lotto mostly, but this will put the final nail in for me. Matching 2 numbers and getting half your stake back?
Absolutely not.
Da5ren@reddit
Exactly. They are trying to find other ways to get more people winning smaller prizes when what most people want is better odds of winning the main prize
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
Yes agreed. If nobody wons the rollover must be won now then the people who won a pound get 5 pounds instead when it should just go to those who have 5 numbers and 1 lucky star. They aren't making people rich anymore which is pretty much the whole point of the lotto.
SeoulGalmegi@reddit
Yeah. I mean I know all lotteries are just throwing money away, but two quid for an absolutely zero chance is.... well, too low odds even for me haha
MikeFader@reddit
I've no interest in funding the retirement of Canadian teachers on the off chance that I win a tenner.
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
It also funds massively the UK government
gazchap@reddit
£1,000 for getting 5 numbers? Fuck off.
FluffyBunnyFlipFlops@reddit
What's your problem? Your chances are 1 in 144,415. It's almost guaranteed money.
AirlineSevere7456@reddit
I got 600 quid for 5 numbers in 1998. I thought fuck off at the time.
Bought myself a 21" TV and a 6 head VHS recorder.
xpltvdeleted@reddit
This happened to me with the actual national lottery. But it was a wednesday night, and all my numbers were birthdays (<=31) which i learnt inherently makes it ultra popular - loads of people also play with birthdays - so there were tons of us that got 5 numbers.
996 quid payout. Absolutely gutted.
Business_Wish_607@reddit
That’s why Hotpicks is the way forward, in the rare chance that you get a significant match, you’ll also get a significant payout compared to playing main lotto. Main lotto is only really worth it for the jackpot
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
Wss the way forward you mean. They've only gone and messed around with the uk lotto hotpicks too so you get 175k instead of the 350k.
xpltvdeleted@reddit
Yeah it was late 000s, I was in my early 20s and it didn't even pay off one credit card. I remember realising the numbers were 5/6 mine on the home page and in the time it took me to login I'd already 'talked myself down' to the fact it was 'probably only 20k or something....' and then spent that 20k in my mind ... Before seeing the actual amount in my account....
As I say. Gutted.
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
I got 3 numbers and 2 lucky stars on euromillions. That's 5 out of the 7 numbers. I won 45 quid.
SteveBusecmi01@reddit
How much was it?
Wizardlord4444@reddit
just a guess but prrobably 996
xpltvdeleted@reddit
Unbelievable guess. you should play the lottery
JavaRuby2000@reddit
No If I ever feel the temptation to play I just stick money in Premium Bonds instead now. Manage to win between £50 and £1000 almost every single month now.
kiersmini@reddit
The Set For Life has been much more appealing to me since it came out
£10k a month for 30 years. I can’t destroy my life with that kind of money, but I am set for life (pun intended).
I can save easily, spend when I want. But not spend so ridiculously that anybody would know.
AirlineSevere7456@reddit
People have got mortgages easily based on their guaranteed 10K a month.
cloud__19@reddit
I don't play regularly but Set For Life is the only one I sometimes buy a ticket for.
R1ch0C@reddit
I agree, and I might be wrong but I think the set for life has the best combination of odds.
The jackpot is apparently roughly 1 in 15m making it the most money you can get anywhere near those odds (and like you i think plenty of money) while also having the runner up prize of 120k which apparently has roughly 1 in 1.7m odds. So you're getting both chances with one ticket. To me that's way better than paying more per ticket for something like the regular lotto which has something like 1 in 45m odds
AirlineSevere7456@reddit
The reason it's ailing is most people play EuroMillions instead. I know I do. This will change nothing.
Even though Camelot were lame, I'd rather they still ran the lottery instead of Allwyn, who messed up the app and made it useless.
Feisty_Baseball_6566@reddit
I still don't understand why we need x1 big winner, it would be more appealing instead of one person winning 5m this week for x5 people to win 1m each, it doesn't need big number it needs more winners which requires lowering the odds.
technically it would still generate the same amount of revenue - yes i said revenue, and i dont believe it would lower its appeal either - not with more chances.
Will i play this game - No !
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
People play the lotto to get rich. A million won't cut it these days.
Feisty_Baseball_6566@reddit
Then people should learn to be grateful for anything they receive and be more humble in the process. Playing the lotto to "get rich" is by concept the wrong reason to be doing it in the first place, Id argue if your mindset says you're disappointed you don't win you shouldn't be doing it.
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
If they paying for it and the odds are shit then grateful and humble don't come into it.
Jesterstear99@reddit
No, I gave up years ago. It is just another tax on the desperate.
I bought premium bonds instead.
I have all the anticipation of planning what to spend my winnings on, and waiting for the doorbell to ring the day before the results come out, then all the anguish & misery of not winning, but I still have my stake money.
Prestigious-Salt-245@reddit
Premium bonds are a terrible idea because the effective interest rate is so low. You'd be better off putting the money in a savings account with higher interest rate and using that extra interest to buy lottery tickets.
Jesterstear99@reddit
Yes, but the point here is that putting the money in premium bonds to "be in a draw" and have the remote chance of winning big money is infinitely preferable to throwing your money away on a lottery ticket where in the virtual certainty that you don't win more than you are throwing away you have thrown away £2.
(Or like the people I see standing outside the newsagents, desperately scratching away at swathes of cards only to throw them in the bin (or on the ground) you could have thrown away £20 or more...
If they bought £100 of premium bonds every month, they'd have £1200 saved up at the end of the year, rather than throw away £1200 to maybe win £100 on a good day.)
If you are considering ways of getting the most from your savings, you probably aren't wasting money on lottery tickets in the first place!
Prestigious-Salt-245@reddit
No you miss the point. As a simplified example say you put £10,000 in premium bonds, earn £275 in small prizes in a year and have 1:570,000 chance of winning a million. Compare to putting £10,000 in the best savings account for a year you earn £475 in interest. Spending that extra £200 on 80 Euromillions Hotpicks Match 5 tickets you could have a 1:12842 of winning a million.
Using the latter option you will be certain of retaining your capital but get more interest and have of higher odds of winning a million. Premium bonds make zero sense any way you look at it.
BentoboxHumperdinck@reddit
But for some people that £475 interest will get taxed at 40+%
Prestigious-Salt-245@reddit
Still £10 better off which is enough to secure a greater than 1:570000 chance of winning a million.
MLG-Monarch@reddit
This is the way. There's two types of people when it comes to PB. Those that understand you get the buzz of "gambling" but non of the risk.
And those who think it's not good due to S&S or other cash ISA's having better returns.
But it's still 1000% better than playing the lottery.
The__Pope_@reddit
Max out your ISA and it's definitely the next best option
shmsc@reddit
Contributing to a SIPP is far better
Deadpooldan@reddit
Why not both?
shmsc@reddit
Of course you can choose to do both. With a SIPP you get tax relief on contributions and also benefit from investment growth. Premium bonds are fun but not as effective.
AshamedAttention727@reddit
Can someone please help me in a basic explain like I'm 10years old way how to do this. Researching shows SO MANY OPTIONS
cloud__19@reddit
If you have a look at r/ukpersonalfinance they have a flowchart for how to set yourself up financially and a good wiki.
kopp9988@reddit
Ask your employer for details on their pension scheme and then see if they offer support or calculators at least. You could also sell advice but that will cost you
Many_Lemon_Cakes@reddit
Depends on how old you are. Retirement age is constantly rising and the government could always decide to change the retirement age - 10 years rule. So investing all your money into a SIPP has it's own risks
shmsc@reddit
You’re right about the risk, but I think any change would likely need to be phased and carried out really carefully over a long time, especially after all of the waspi pension drama!
soovercroissants@reddit
Only if you've not maxed out your annual allowance (and carryover).
shmsc@reddit
I mean obviously yeah I’m not suggesting you break the contribution allowance rules
Hollywood-is-DOA@reddit
Until the government starts to force you to invest some of your ISA into English companies. Which they have already talked about gambling your money on something that you could lose it on.
tintedhokage@reddit
Best thing to do is to do both bonds and s&s
thecockmeister@reddit
You're effectively only gambling on the lost interest rates you could have got putting it into savings or S&S. Yes it’ll lose value over time, but I won £300 this month so can live with it, especially as it’s tax free and I can take it out at any time.
Hollywood-is-DOA@reddit
The chances of premium bond wins are also not in your favour, do you even make money on the bond market?
Jesterstear99@reddit
You won't make money on premium bonds unless you are very lucky. You need to have £22,000 worth to statistically win a prize each month, if you have £100 worth you might expect to win once every 20 years or so. They are just a way of providing the Government with capital that they don't expect to pay back.
The point is that you are not throwing actual money away on lottery tickets, and can "enjoy" all the emotions that go with having a lottery ticket in every draw without losing money.
Obviously you lose out on potential interest, and in a few years with our inflation your holding is virtually worthless, but premium bonds are more of a piggy bank on your shelf that you can dip into in an emergency than an investment.
They are not for every body, if you want to make money you buy property.
ImitationDemiGod@reddit
Wait. If you win big on PB they visit your house?
cloud__19@reddit
Yes, Google Agent Million.
IHeardOnAPodcast@reddit
Also premium bond winnings are tax free and interest isn't, which can be handy in certain situations. Particularly if you have a big lump sum that is earmarked for something in the short term, so you can't invest it elsewhere/don't want to burn through your annual ISA allowance.
We use it for my wife's tax money as she's a sole trader, so it gets set aside in premium bonds over a period of time before being paid.
EmptyStock9676@reddit
My 16 year old son won £25k ! Agreed to share with his little sister bless him
rlarts@reddit
Exactly, this is the way!
A few years back I registered for a lifetime self-exclusion to stop myself from being tempted by new lottery gimmicks like this. I was playing Thunderball every week, twice a week and sure, I won the odd £100 or so, but overall I was still down.
Now my money is in S&S, but I have my emergency fund in Premium Bonds so that I can do the gambling thing whilst keeping my stake safe.
phy6rjs@reddit
Great idea - I might switch!
2point4children@reddit
The only winner of the national lottery, is everyone else, apart from the person playing. Its as simple as that.
MrMikeJJ@reddit
If it was
1 number : £10
2 numbers : £100
3 numbers : £1,000
4 numbers : £10,000
5 numbers : £100,000
6 numbers : Jackpot (£1,000,000 minimum)
(Fuck the bonus ball.)
I would be more tempted. Sure the jackpot would be smaller shrug, but it will be better returns.
And they would still make an obscene amount of profit.
zero_iq@reddit
Paying out £10 for a single matching number would lose about 8 million quid for every million tickets sold, before you even consider the other larger prizes.
Nope, it would immediately bankrupt the lottery.
MrMikeJJ@reddit
No it wouldn't. 1 in 9.7 chance of getting one number. 1 million tickets would be 2 million pounds, with approximately 103,000 winning tickets, costing 1,030,000 million.
Still £970,000 profit.
zero_iq@reddit
No, the odds of getting at least one single number is much higher than that.
It's about 74% across the two draws.
That means a payout of about £9.81 per ticket.
Odds of getting at least one single number in two independent draws:
1 - ((53 choose 6)/(59 choose 6)) ²
Which is about 74%.
MrMikeJJ@reddit
I was basing of off one the draw, not this new 2 draw way.
zero_iq@reddit
Your calculation is still incorrect.
The odds of getting at least one single number is about 49% for a single draw. (Remove the square from the calculation)
Bigtallanddopey@reddit
Why not just cut the price in half and go back to the £1 tickets?
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
Well in fairness 2 quid doesn't bother me. It's more the shitty odds which I'd understanding if we lived in a population the size of Brazil, not the UK.
jwf91@reddit
Idiot tax
Silver_Adagio138@reddit
A million quid isn’t ‘fuck you’ money anymore.
Initial-Confusion-24@reddit
If someone could transfer that to me, I'll be able to confirm.
Entire-Emotion-819@reddit
I haven't played the lottery in at least a decade, do they even still do the live draws on tv?
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
No idea. They do it on YouTube.
_Dan___@reddit
I play on DD and have done for 15 odd years. Never much looked at the lower prizes but this surprised me - £1000 for 5 numbers is truly shite 😂
Odd-Fun@reddit
If everyone gets another chance to win isn't it just the same odds. Or am I dumb hahah
mkr215@reddit
I work in a shop and a lotto rep came in to speak to my manager about the changes coming into place, didn’t really think much of it till now lol. Just hope I don’t get customers complaining to me as if I came up with the changes myself 😭
asymmetricears@reddit
I very rarely play, and will continue to do so.
Generally, there's competition for the small stakes big prizes market. It used to be football pools, then that declined as the lottery came along in the 90s, but now this is declining and bookies accumulators are more popular.
Maybe people like feeling like their skill increases their odds, rather than it being down to pure luck.
SilyLavage@reddit
I suppose the difference between the National Lottery and bookies' accumulators is that the lottery supports all sorts of good thing and accumulators support the shareholders of William Hill.
Toon1982@reddit
Plus the National Lottery doesn't restrict your account if you keep winning
Hollywood-is-DOA@reddit
It’s very hard to win big on the lottery, more than once. Bookies are well known for not paying out, if you win big and will call the police.
GBrunt@reddit
I'd be interested to see a breakdown of where the Lottery raises it's money and whether it puts the money back into those communities. My suspicion is that much of the money comes from the poor, but that middle and upper class people have a lot more time on their hands to bid for Lottery funding. But I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
adamneigeroc@reddit
The current hot gambling item is prize raffles, usually for cars, but obviously omaze does the house one,
Saw on the other day raffling off a £70k campervan for £3.99 a ticket, they sold 75,000 tickets and the only work they did was borrow a campervan from a dealership, take some pics and spam advertising on Instagram.
£200k profit, zero risk, if tickets don’t sell enough you are allowed to give a prize minus in lieu of a prize minus operating costs. It’s like a licence to print money
Ok_Aioli3897@reddit
I only play on a must be won.
Hollywood-is-DOA@reddit
4 numbers used to get you a few grand back in the day. Making it even more numbers to have a chance of winning big money, is putting the odd more in the owners favour.
Just like the scratch cards are a lot harder to win on, as they keep the cards out in the wild, as soon as the big prizes are won and they have loads of tiny prize money.
Winning a £100 max money, on a 2 pound starch card is crazy, as is how many words that you need to win on the word search cards.
rynchenzo@reddit
No. Massively increased odds and Massively decreased prizes.
LandscapeNo8758@reddit
Idiot tax my Dad calls it
Bossman_Mike@reddit
I still want them to rejig Thunderball. The prize bandings are more like canyons.
TheLightStalker@reddit
I stopped buying a ticket when they upped the price from £1 for 1 line of numbers or lucky dip.
Difficult_Bad1064@reddit
I always chose a lucky dip because people are bad at choosing randomly, so picking your own numbers means you'd be less likely to share the jackpot.
With the jackpot split over two draws, you might be the only person to win with your numbers but the other draw could have loads of winners and your prize gets shared all over.
CarpetPedals@reddit
People pick birthdays. So just pick mostly 32 or higher.
Trick-Station8742@reddit
Haha jokes on you I was born on 33rd
LadySpatula@reddit
So was I! The 33rd of May
gtripwood@reddit
Rookie numbers
adamneigeroc@reddit
10,000 people are estimated to play 123456 in the lottery every week. So you’d get a shit jackpot
Difficult_Bad1064@reddit
I know it doesn't matter what numbers you pick regarding your odds of winning, but I just can't do that.
Dark_Akarin@reddit
I was just about to say have they improved the odds, oh, it's more than 3 times harder...
TravelOwn4386@reddit
Why did they ever change it from the old format. There was no issues with it, I actually stopped after the format changed and I know a lot of my family did too. Just not worth it.
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
I'm assuming it was so they could raise the jackpots and make more money. I agree. It was at that point a once good game turned to shit. It's just relentless rollovers now and the must be won jackpots that often still don't get won. It's a load of shit.
Euromillions did similar as they went from 1 in 116 to 1 in 140 million.
TravelOwn4386@reddit
I mean the old jackpots wasn't bad if rather better odds of winning just £1million with bigger prizes under than impossible odds for winning maybe a free ticket 🤣
Transmit_Him@reddit
Ridiculous leap in prize value from five numbers to five and the bonus ball.
CrossRoadChicken@reddit
Is there soon going to be two full rounds + bonus ball in each round?
I run a weekly bonus ball club at work. Going to cause arguements when two people both think they've won it
strodey123@reddit
Two chances to waste my money instead of one basically then
AdJust4063@reddit
Why does it look like something from lovehoney
Toon1982@reddit
Because they're trying to shaft people 😂
PaulSpangle@reddit
Will I continue to play? Yes, because I play by direct debit. I've played the same numbers twice a week, every week, for as long as I can remember. I don't spend enough that I notice it, but I would notice if I won the jackpot.
I can remember going to London Olympics in 2012 and commenting that several of the grains of sand in the long jump pit were mine because I paid for them with my lottery money. So I've been playing at least that long.
Toon1982@reddit
I'm the same. I see it as a charity donation with the chance of winning money, possibly.
Unique_Bed1541@reddit
Fuck them, such a con
Sudden_Hovercraft_56@reddit
Definately not. I had no interest in the lottery since I programmed a lottery simulator and realised that over thousands and thousands of draws I'd barely win anything, and that was before they added 10 extra balls!
I now play the peoples postcode lottery. only been doing it for 6 months and already won 2 prizes. Not great, but far better than the national lottery.
Final-Read-3589@reddit
Allwyn…
What happens when you privatise it.
gazchap@reddit
The National Lottery has always been in the hands of a private company.
Death_God_Ryuk@reddit
I'm in my 20s. I don't think anyone I know who's my age buys lottery tickets. It's nice that it supports charities, but it's just a waste of money imo. I can give to charities directly.
Even if it's not for me, I can understand the appeal of a gambling experience like Vegas or in-person slots/blackjack, or more skilled betting like sports betting; but the lottery or scratchcards are low odds and boring.
If you want low odds and boring, why not buy Premium Bonds and keep your money?
ConsciouslyIncomplet@reddit
It makes lotto not really worth it?
Match 2 - is no £1 ….Lowest prize is half your initial stake.
Match 3 is lowered to £10?
Match 5 is now £1k only?
So you are basically paying £2 and really the only life changing win is the jackpot? I’d rather buy the Euromillions for £2.50 and win considerably much more…
(Yes - aware that the odds for both games are different).
Personally this seems a huge backwards step.
tocookornottocook@reddit
Now run by Allwyn. You know the company you’ve probably never heard of but they pay millions for advertising at the F1. This will be profit above experience all the way… hence this monstrosity
xpltvdeleted@reddit
What's 31 million between friends?
Beneficial-Pitch-430@reddit
So the actual jackpot stays the same?
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
Well it will be halved so it starts at 2 million. That means each draw jackpot will be 1 million each. It seems sort of shit if you ask me. 2 in 45 million odds of winning a million.
The whole thing seems to have lost the plot.
Beneficial-Pitch-430@reddit
Yeah.. seeing as the prize below is also 1m.. you could win the jackpot and come away with the same amount as the tier below. I saw the game was changing but assumed the jackpot would be increasing.
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
As I said the only way of fixing it was to return it to its original format. Now it's just a shit show.
WildKey9307@reddit
It is unnecessarily complicated. Put it back to a quid and I will play twice if I want to. Or leave it at 2 but the odds need to drastically change. I’m happy with smaller prizes more often too.
NotABrummie@reddit
It's basically just a copy of the FDJ format. Witha few less bells and whistles.
audigex@reddit
I think it’s a combination of things
The fact there are now draws almost every day for 3 or 4 different lotteries doesn’t help - it just creates a fatigue around it
Putting the price up while simultaneously slashing the odds is a demotivator too, even though you’re unlikely to win either way
turbo_dude@reddit
National Lottery is reverse Robin Hood. A tax on the stupid.
Ok_Aioli3897@reddit
See this makes more sense but they have now made a two pound prize a one pound prize
carl84@reddit
Roll up, roll up! Win a chance to only lose half your money!
wybird@reddit
The lowest value prize should always be equal to or above the cost of the ticket IMO
Ok_Aioli3897@reddit
Yes it should which is why I was okay with the lucky dip ticket rather than the money but this new operator is cheaping out
thefootster@reddit
Nope, I have no interest whatsoever, I've never found any sort of gambling entertaining.
No_Carry_6131@reddit
Of course not. Gambling is stupid
Buffetwarrenn@reddit
No.
I gave up gambling
NorthernGooner77@reddit
Only ever play it when there is a must be won jackpot.
But the enshittification of the prizes I'll mean I probably won't bother as usually win bugger all anyway.
voluotuousaardvark@reddit
today is cash call come all ye to the largest amount we ever gave##
Text xyz and give us your money
TH1CCARUS@reddit
I answered this post with “No” because the post only requires a simply “Yes” or “No” answer and automod deleted my comment.
So here we are with extra characters.
SquashyDisco@reddit
Nah. It just makes me focus more on Set for Life. £10k a month for 30 years gives me more stability than £5m once.
vtmike@reddit
they should put the jackpot back up to how it was originally
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
How was it originally?
Curious_Orange8592@reddit
More people used to play back then which raised the prize pool but it used to be once a week on Saturday, £8-9 million jackpot, £100,000 for 5+bonus ball, £1500 for 5, £65 for 4 and a fixed £10 for 3 (all prizes other than the £10 were approximate and based on the total prize pool and total number of winners)
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
Yes but I assume that was on the golden days of lotto when there was only 1 lotto and much more players so less competition. These days they'd struggle to get it up to 9 million. They can and they do but it takes time
funkmachine7@reddit
It was harder for a lot of people to gamble back then, the bookies where sad shadowly places for men. And while you could bet by phone it wasnt easy or fast like it is now. But you could get a lotto ticket with your shopping.
Feeling-Ad6796@reddit (OP)
Even if you go into bookies these days I rarely if ever see a woman in them.
pervertsage@reddit
They're certainly in there though I think once anyone spends enough time in a betting shop they end up looking like a haggard old man, women included.
Curious_Orange8592@reddit
And that was when tickets cost a quid. My opinion, based on anecdotal evidence, is that the introduction of the Wednesday draw is what began the decline
pervertsage@reddit
They got greedy. It's a tale as old as time.
shelfside1234@reddit
That’s appalling
3 numbers down from £25 to £10 and 2 numbers is a 50% loss instead of a prize equivalent to getting your stake back
iFlipRizla@reddit
Well last weekend I got 3 numbers and won £30, so under new rules I’d only win a tenner, how’s that better?
pervertsage@reddit
It's better for them.
Sparko_Marco@reddit
I didn't realise the prizes got so bad, I've just had a weekly lucky dip via direct debit just in case, it's a small affordable amount so I never pay much attention to it. I'll probably continue just in case, I waste more money on a lot of other things.
JohnLennonsNotDead@reddit
More chance to win by simply taking money off 4, 5 numbers etc and putting it on lower wins. It’s a load of shite. I only ever put the euro millions on when it gets to £80m.
knuddo17@reddit
Can't remember where I read this but " the lottery is a tax on idiots"
Ok_Sephiroth@reddit
There was an episode of family guy where Brian says “Don’t you know the lottery is just a tax on stupid people?”
flyingokapis@reddit
Nope.
Fed up with the increase in ticket prices, but with the odds also increasing.
Someone said it above, that it went from 1 in 14 million to 1 in 45million.
We have to pay more for that? No thanks.
Euromillions is a joke too, its just rollover after rollover, which is great for them as then they can advertise 100mil+ jackpots, but awful for the players.
Alive_Forever_9541@reddit
Scrap the scratch cards, multiple draws (etc etc etc). One set of numbers, one National Lottery. One draw each week.
Bez666@reddit
Great I got 2 chances to win feck all on a sat night.
PipBin@reddit
I have no idea. I do it via a direct debit.
dbxp@reddit
Didn't they already do this with Thunderball?
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